LA City Councilman blasts AZ law for provisions in CA penal code

posted at 10:55 am on May 17, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Before critics of Arizona’s new immigration law make fools of themselves, they should really try to read the bill.  And if those critics are officials of other states or cities, maybe they should take a quick tour of their own laws first, too.  Kerry Picket at the Washington Times interviewed Los Angeles City Councilman Ed Reyes, who said that he would need his passport to travel in Arizona, but she points out that the very same provisions to which Reyes objects exist in California’s own penal code:

The Los Angeles City Council’s vote to boycott Arizona caused more consternation than anything else. LA City Council members voted an overwhelming 13 – 1 to terminate any city contracts with Arizona (worth around $7.7 million) as did other American cities who have considered resolutions to protest the Arizona law or seek boycotts. Among these cities are San Francisco and Saint Paul, Minnesota. …

“I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport,” Los Angeles Councilman Ed Reyes, a Democrat, said before the vote. “If I come across an officer who’s had a bad day and feels the picture on my ID is not me, I could be summarily deported — no questions asked. That is not American.”

Kerry has plenty of audio within the Times article, but transcribes the key points:

PICKET: Where exactly in the law does it say that? Considering that it prohibits that? As I’m asking here, federal law which has been around for about seventy years has been saying that undocumented individuals have to be carrying papers, so what exactly has changed between federal law of the last seventy years and Arizona’s law?

REYES: What’s changed is you have a very active effort to round up people that look a certain way, and if you have proof you are an American citizen that let you go, and if you don’t they deport you. So now, that I look like a Mexican, and I am Mexican American, I become a target.(AUDIO)

PICKET: Why is this law considered any different than what has been around for the last seventy years…because it’s being enforced?

REYES: Why does a state have to call that out? Why can’t it just follow the federal law like you said for the past seventy years? (AUDIO)

Well, why does California have to call it out, Councilman Reyes?  Kerry did a little digging and found this nugget in Section 834b in the California Penal Code:

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

Sounds very similar to the provisions of SB 1070, the bill that prompted LA’s City Council to launch its boycott of Arizona.  Will they also now boycott their own state?  They do seem to be conducting a boycott of common sense and legal scholarship at City Hall.

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Nice find Ed. God the Democtards in this state reaches a new low everyday.

Apologetic California on May 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM

other American cities who have considered resolutions to protest the Arizona law or seek boycotts. Among these cities are San Francisco and Saint Paul, Minnesota.

*punches hole in door*

Bishop on May 17, 2010 at 10:58 AM

What a maroon…

Readin’ is hard

cmsinaz on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Is it just me, or should LA refer to Louisiana, and L.A. to the city of Los Angeles?

Especially when used in headlines with other state postal abbreviations (AZ).

Abby Adams on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Please do not obscure the issue with facts.

sdd on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

I’ve been following the LA boycott on podcasts from KFI radio. Most of the city council appear to have an intelligence level that would make the majority of Congressmen seem like MENSA folks.

TugboatPhil on May 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Highly entertaining. I love watching politicos step in a warm cow pie.

a capella on May 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Who is the little white guy in the picture? Ed Reyes? I wonder what he means when he says he “looks like a Mexican”? He looks like a small, dumpy, balding white guy to me. Could be Irish or Serbian or Canadian.

Jaibones on May 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM

No facts allowed. MSM to call out the boycotters on this in never, never -1, never -2……..

VikingGoneWild on May 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM

These are politicians…you don’t need brains, just an attitude and a bunch of sheep that can vote.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Reyes is seeing spots and connecting dots that aren’t there. Typical lib dem in that he doesn’t read bills or laws before spouting off. Must have gone to the same schools as AG Holder.

Kissmygrits on May 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Its not the law, it is the will to enforce it that they object to…

tommylotto on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Could be Irish…

Jaibones on May 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM

We don’t have to show a passport, just an empty whiskey bottle…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

face palm

John the Libertarian on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Vgw: *crickets chirping* from the Msm

cmsinaz on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Yeah, it’s not that the law actually exists. It’s that AZ is (hopefully) going to enforce the law.

Big Difference to Illegals,…and their sycophants.

PappaMac on May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Its not the law, it is the will to enforce it that they object to…

tommylotto on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

So they pass a law, and then are upset that it is enforced…that even makes less sense.
Liberals really are more stupid then I ever had thunk….

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM

“I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport,” Los Angeles Councilman Ed Reyes, a Democrat, said before the vote. “If I come across an officer who’s had a bad day and feels the picture on my ID is not me, I could be summarily deported — no questions asked. That is not American.”

An out and out lie. Ed Reyes is a liar. In any deportation the burden of proof is on the state to prove you are not here legally.

rbj on May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Insanity! We make laws, and then ignore them?

“These are politicians…you don’t need brains, just an attitude and a bunch of sheep that can vote.”

Boy, is that the truth!

GFW on May 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Why do we need comedians and sit-coms when we have polticians and politics?

WashJeff on May 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM

An out and out lie. Ed Reyes is a liar. In any deportation the burden of proof is on the state to prove you are not here legally.

rbj on May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Details, Details, Details. Stop pouring cold water on a good DNC talking point rant.

PappaMac on May 17, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Will they also now boycott their own state? They do seem to be conducting a boycott of common sense and legal scholarship at City Hall.

Ha! A statist liberal facepalm moment. How about we boycott kaleefornyahhh for its “racist” laws? How about that LA you smug group of non-bill reading schmucks.

ted c on May 17, 2010 at 11:09 AM

People who actually believe this tripe are serious morons. Does anyone ACTUALLY think that Arizona is going to come across an AMERICAN CITIZEN who doesn’t happen to be carrying ID on him/her and that person will be DEPORTED somewhere without having an opportunity to find and display ACTUALLY EXISTING DOCUMENTATION?!?

I mean, this is off the reservation nutjob thinking here.

And another thing. Who says people are necessarily going to be deported to Mexico? What if they’re from Guatemala? China? Who’s the real racist here… or maybe it’s an unintended admission that, gee, there IS a problem along the Mexican border!

Red Cloud on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

AZ, FLIP THE SWITCH!

Stop supplying California with power and water.

When the contract is up triple the prices.

tetriskid on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Tell you what, let’s deport the idiots and keep everyone who can pass a common sense test.

The place would be free of liberals in a week.

ted c on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I often entertain the idea of running for a low level political position, you know, just to do my civic duty to help run things…

…but then when I hear idiot career politicians like this a$$hat I change my mind because I know I’ll be booked on assault charges before my term is done.

It’s amazing noone has beat the crap out of him.

SPCOlympics on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

AZ, FLIP THE SWITCH!

Stop supplying California with power and water.

When the contract is up triple the prices.

tetriskid on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

heheh. Damn up the Colorado River.

Consequences –

ted c on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

As of the 2000 Census, there were 222,165 people residing in the 1st district. The population density was 16,456.67/mi². The racial and ethnic makeup of the district was 75.5% Latino, 5.4% White, 2.6% African American, 0.3% Native American, 15.1% Asian, 0.1% from other races, and 1.0% from two or more races.

This is his district…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Can’t wait to vacation in AZ next month!!! Wasn’t going to vacation at all, but I just found all sorts of things I want to do there.

BTW – have the Lakers forfeited all their games scheduled in Phoenix yet? Well, why the hell not? Oh, it’s their OWN MONEY involved?

Fishoutofwater on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

I forget, his running for the President of Mexico?

Oil Can on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Looks like reading is optional. I suspect the problems California has have now been shown to stem from them passing laws for themselves that they did not read.

seven on May 17, 2010 at 11:12 AM

I bet a guy who I work with my next paycheck that not a single person will actually get deported by using this law. He refuses to take that bet. My take on this whole thing is that illegals in AZ will just move to bordering states and nothing will happen.

Johnnyreb on May 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Phoenix has the same policy. Didn’t prevent its mayor from demanding to revoke the law.

Phoenician on May 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

If it wasn’t a billion degrees in Arizona at this time, I’d go there. I’ve been to Phoenix/Scottsdale, would like to see the Grand Canyon though. The lodgings there look sad and distant.

Apologetic California on May 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Dumb-sh!t

Bubba Redneck on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

…but then when I hear idiot career politicians like this a$$hat I change my mind because I know I’ll be booked on assault charges before my term is done.

SPCOlympics on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

My concern is suicide…

Kafir on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Liberals don’t think, can’t think, brain missing. It’s the only way you can vote Obama.

tarpon on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Councilman Reyes is asking why do we enforce law. Same thing for marijuana, why do we enforce the law? Ditto prostitution.

Someone should ask Councilman Reyes why enforce any law?

Skandia Recluse on May 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM

It’s awfully big of Los Angeles to give a disabled minority a position of leadership like that. Go El Tardo!

Pablo on May 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Is not a boycott across state borders issued buy a political body in direct violation of federal law.

Shouldn’t congress intervene in order to normalize trade between the two states.

It seems to me that LA city council are acting illegally and
Congress is acting negligent.

TheSitRep on May 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM

I bet a guy who I work with my next paycheck that not a single person will actually get deported by using this law. He refuses to take that bet. My take on this whole thing is that illegals in AZ will just move to bordering states and nothing will happen.

Johnnyreb on May 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

This is what will happen. Then those states will collapse.

tetriskid on May 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM

If they read the law, or admit to having read the law, then the things they say about it won’t be myths anymore.

They would be LIES

Sekhmet on May 17, 2010 at 11:19 AM

other American cities who have considered resolutions to protest the Arizona law or seek boycotts. Among these cities are San Francisco and Saint Paul, Minnesota.

*punches hole in door*

Bishop on May 17, 2010 at 10:58 AM

As a resident of AZ from St Paul that still makes me angry. I can tell ya I won’t be spending my money in St Paul when I come into town this year for the 4 Vikes games I have tix to. Heck, other than a flight and some steaks from the store I won’t have to spend anything. Wild games those weekends with attached bar tab….forget about it.

VikingGoneWild on May 17, 2010 at 11:20 AM

I bet a guy who I work with my next paycheck that not a single person will actually get deported by using this law. He refuses to take that bet. My take on this whole thing is that illegals in AZ will just move to bordering states and nothing will happen.

Johnnyreb on May 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Thus decreasing the illegal population in Arizona which is the intent of the law in the first place. California, New Mexico and Texas should really follow suit.

Bubba Redneck on May 17, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Could be Irish…

Jaibones on May 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM

We don’t have to show a passport, just an empty whiskey bottle…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

…or your AA five-year chip.

RBMN on May 17, 2010 at 11:21 AM

BTW – have the Lakers forfeited all their games scheduled in Phoenix yet? Well, why the hell not? Oh, it’s their OWN MONEY involved?

Fishoutofwater on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Well no, it’s because they’re not stupid.

TIME asked the Lakers if the team had any plans to take a position on the controversial law, and the response seemed pretty clear: you’d have a better chance of seeing John McCain jumping center for the team. “We’re in the business of playing basketball,” says Lakers spokesman John Black, “and we’re not in the business of getting into a political debate one way or another.”

Pablo on May 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM

“I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport,” Los Angeles Councilman Ed Reyes, a Democrat, said before the vote. “If I come across an officer who’s had a bad day and feels the picture on my ID is not me, I could be summarily deported — no questions asked. That is not American.”

If only….

GrannyDee on May 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Childish and dangerous idiots. If one byproduct of the Arizona law is to smoke out these little fools around the country it will be a success. The “LA City Council” is a sick joke, a defiantly corrupt fiefdom of incompetence. Maybe this episode will advertise it more broadly.

rrpjr on May 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Sounds like the point is not what’s in Arizona’s law — it’s the fact that plainly they really mean to enforce it.

jwolf on May 17, 2010 at 11:25 AM

America should boycott all things Californian such as the Rose Bowl, Disney World etc. Send all illegal Muslim and Mexicans to California! We are all Arizonians! We are under assault from third world countries and Communist Democrats at home. American citizens no longer have the means to pay for these illegals! It is hard enough supporting our own freeloaders. Remember in November! Boycott all Boycotters!

Marco on May 17, 2010 at 11:27 AM

If it wasn’t a billion degrees in Arizona at this time, I’d go there. I’ve been to Phoenix/Scottsdale, would like to see the Grand Canyon though. The lodgings there look sad and distant.

Apologetic California on May 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM

There are lots of locations to visit in AZ that are not as hot as the desert areas. Places in higher elevations, like Flagstaff and Sedona, or the White Mountains, are nice to visit in the summer.

Support Arizona and defend the rule of law.

AZCoyote on May 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Where are all the dipshits screaming about the Feds getting involved because of Interstate Commerce?

PappaMac on May 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM

This just made my day! Now I’ll have to email CA officals again with this sweet gem. They should all be ashamed at their ignorance of their own law. I swear, I’m going to start a website called the blooming idiot society and give them all honorary membership.

Our local news reported this morning that pressure is being put on the Lakers to denounce AZ, as the Suns have. That Hahn on L.A. City Council has advice for fans and team members on what to bring to Phoenix so they don’t have to spend any money here. I suppose she thinks they’re staying in hotels for free, not eating meals and don’t need to buy gas for their return trip. LOL

GrannySunni on May 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Actually there is a slight difference between teh 2/ Calif penal code speaks of someone arrested versus merely stopped for suspicious causes.

and the fact that LA has ignored this Calif law ( which also prohibits any city from NOT enforcing it) tells is they wouldn’t casre anyway

but it is a difference between Az and Calif law

RWGinger on May 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Hoover, Roosevelt, and Eisenhower deported millions of illegals. Eisenhower’s program was called “Operation Wetback.”

Millions.

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM

“Sounds very similar to the provisions of SB 1070, the bill that prompted LA’s City Council to launch its boycott of Arizona.”

Yes, but CA does not enforce their laws. :-)

JeffinSac on May 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM

as did other American cities who have considered resolutions to protest the Arizona law or seek boycotts. Among these cities are San Francisco and Saint Paul, Minnesota. …

So, would it be safe to assume that cities that do this have their own healthy crops of illegals to pander too???

BigWyo on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Awe give Mr Reyes a break, he is a product of the LAUSD afterall….

jbh45 on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

AZ, FLIP THE SWITCH!

Stop supplying California with power and water.

When the contract is up triple the prices.

tetriskid on May 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Agreed. Everyone who agrees with the AZ law should show support and carryout a boycott of all cities boycotting AZ. Especially these self-proclaimed sanctuary cities in CA. Of course, those cities should have already lost any federal funding of any kind for disobeying the federal law in the first place.

Sporty1946 on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

To cut right to the heart of the matter, Los Angeles City Councilman Ed Reyes is an assclown, and a moron, and an idiot.

pilamaye on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Did someone spray for trolls?

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

They people are so stupid we need a new word to describe them. Geez!

griv on May 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Caleefornia is so yesterday,what else is new?!

ohiobabe on May 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

…or your AA five-year chip.

RBMN on May 17, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Irish? Never, but your red-headed sister helps getting you out of a lot of trouble.

Meanwhile, this guy probably has a problem with the law because it wasn’t written in Spanish…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Again, I think these guys have read the law. They are merely lying about it.

Sekhmet on May 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

Is it just me, or does this seem to make ‘sanctuary cities’ against CA law?

Count to 10 on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Where are all the dipshits screaming about the Feds getting involved because of Interstate Commerce?

PappaMac on May 17, 2010 at 11:28 A//
Ha!Do you have an opinion on that or are you on the fence?:)

ohiobabe on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

They people are so stupid we need a new word to describe them. Geez!

griv on May 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM

The word “liberal” is still appropriate.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Is it just me, or should LA refer to Louisiana, and L.A. to the city of Los Angeles?

Especially when used in headlines with other state postal abbreviations (AZ).

Abby Adams on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

From a journalistic standpoint, I think you’re right — L.A. is the standard abbreviation for the city, LA for the state. One might argue though that since LA is followed by the word “city”, you’re expected to think the city in California.

LastRick on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Reyes is right.

He “could be summarily deported — no questions asked.”–if he’s kidnapped in Phoenix by Mexican Drug Gangs.

Our State Dept. met with China and brought up human rights by saying our Arizona law is just as bad as China’s abuses. They harvest organs from their Gulags.

I looked up Chinese Immigration Law:

[Article 13] Foreigners residing in China shall, within the prescribed time, submit the documents to the local public security authorities for examination.

You think California Democrats will boycott China too?

Not only is Obama using the Arizona law to whip up racial strife like he was George Wallace on an Afro Sheen-and-nicotine bender, he’s even using it to abase America before the world. Again.

Noel on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

There are lots of locations to visit in AZ that are not as hot as the desert areas. Places in higher elevations, like Flagstaff and Sedona, or the White Mountains, are nice to visit in the summer.

Support Arizona and defend the rule of law.

AZCoyote on May 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Very true. In fact some beautiful mountains beggining just a couple of hours outside of Phoenix.
I plan to spend 4 days over the Memorial Day holiday. And spend what I can. And thank folks for having guts.

JusDreamin on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Stupid Gringos

heh

franksalterego on May 17, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Los Angeles use to check for immigration status until special order 40 was issued. Look it up.

gstrickler on May 17, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Is the Obama State Department going to start apologizing to Iran about California’s violation of human rights too? I don’t see why not, they never miss an opportunity to apologize for someone else’s faults, it makes them feel like they’re such saints.

Socratease on May 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

California law here seems to permit stopping a person based on his looks or just because the officer wants to do it unlike Az. law the officer must encounter the person in a legal contact and expressly prohibits racial profiling.

Herb on May 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

RWGinger on May 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM

The AZ law requires that someone be stopped or detained for a violation before they can be questioned about their immigration status. So therefore they are not different.

Sporty1946 on May 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

These people are the ones the word “maroon” was coined to describe.

Bob's Kid on May 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM

heheh. Damn up the Colorado River.

Consequences –

ted c on May 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Then tell them you did it to save the fish or something.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Did someone spray for trolls?

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

No worries. They tend to shy away from threads like this. Unless, of course, someone mentions Sarah Palin.

Ooops!

CurtZHP on May 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Boycott CA!
Their law is racist!!!

barnone on May 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Sporty
Stopped or detained for reasonable cause is NOT arrested.
The calif law says people ARRESTED can be investigated for illegal status
That is a big difference even though Calif isn’t follwoing its own laws

and yes sanctuary cities are in violation of calif law

It is so totally f’d up

BUT we should be precise so we don’t get it thrown back

Calif law speaks only to people arrested. Az law also includes people stopped or detained for reasonable cause

RWGinger on May 17, 2010 at 11:48 AM

The key provision in the Arizona law is permitting people to sue agencies for failing to enforce the law.

Because, here in California, we may have the same law, but with the execrable Jerry Brown in the AG’s office it’s never going to get enforced.

JEM on May 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

California law operates after an arrest while the Arizona law operates after a legal contact. It seems like a pretty fine point on which to reset all this controversy and outrage.

Socratease on May 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Yes, why the Mexican state gotta call out illegal brown people crossing their southern border? Where’s your boycott of Mexico, Mr. Reyes.

Mmmm hmmm, thought so.

Christien on May 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Facts (and laws) don’t matter…

golfmann on May 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm shall we all contact the incredibly underinformed Mr. Reyes?

http://cd1.lacity.org/cd1ci1.htm

and his email:

councilmember.reyes@lacity.org

Katfish on May 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM

California law operates after an arrest while the Arizona law operates after a legal contact. It seems like a pretty fine point on which to reset all this controversy and outrage.

Socratease on May 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Beause they still don’t do it.

katy the mean old lady on May 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Here is the difference
Calif :Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.

AZ
“FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE
25 PERSON’S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

See the difference? lawful contact,Arrest??
different
Of course ca doesn’t enforce theirs anyway BUT opponents of the Az law will point out the Calif law IS different

RWGinger on May 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Is it any wonder that Los Angeles is in the financial mess it’s in with these geniuses in charge. That along with the bird brain mayor we have. Keep in ming, he took the Bar exam four times and failed it four times.

rjoco1 on May 17, 2010 at 12:02 PM

And perhaps Councilman Reyes should read his own LA Times poll on the issue?

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM

If I cross the border illegally into Canada and live there illegally, and I get stopped and asked for my “papers” and all I can produce is a VA driver’s license, aren’t they going to send me home?

scalleywag on May 17, 2010 at 12:12 PM

REYES: ..no habla..

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Very true. In fact some beautiful mountains beggining just a couple of hours outside of Phoenix.
I plan to spend 4 days over the Memorial Day holiday. And spend what I can. And thank folks for having guts.

JusDreamin on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

..all my non-registration-required firearm and ammunition needs will be through AZ businesses..

..AND I shall be visiting the Williams, Arizona State Ham fest!

~T.W.P., k6whp

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Yikes, sounds like we must launch a boycott of California, what with their voting down gay marriage and now a racist immigration penal law, we must saw off that state and let it float into the Pacific never to besmirch the good name of the US again. I wonder now whether Obama will have to apologise to the red chinese for california’s law too?

eaglewingz08 on May 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM

This klown no doubt went to publik skool in LA.

Col.John Wm. Reed on May 17, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Liberals are phucking stupid.

D2Boston on May 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM

I have been to Sedona several times, and highly recommend visiting there, as it is beautiful. Be sure to have breakfast creekside under the trees at L’Auberge Restaurant on Oak Creek downtown, watch the sun set with the cool drink of your choice on a terrace at Enchantment Resort and lower your blood pressure several notches, shop at Tlaquepaque and dine there at El Rincon restaurant, take a Pink Jeep tour (fun and exciting), visit the old mining town of Jerome, and sightsee on the drive north of Sedona. Check out their website. There is so much to do, you won’t be able to do it all, but the above are my must sees when I go. Have fun!

silvernana on May 17, 2010 at 12:35 PM

But you don’t understand … Our California law is good because we have no intention of enforcing it. Your Arizona law is bad because you’re actually going to use it.

And by the way, we won’t be buying any more of your iced tea.

Unconfused in California

JerseyJeff on May 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Notice that their embargo of AZ does not extend to the electrical power they import from AZ.

LarryD on May 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM

But who else besides HotAir is “outing” these idiots? Meanwhile, every AZ bashing moron is being interviewed by the LameStreamMedia!

rebuzz on May 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM

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