Cheney endorses Whitman in CA gubernatorial primary; Update: Poizner responds

posted at 8:48 am on May 17, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Observers will want to ask two questions about the endorsement of Meg Whitman by Dick Cheney in the California GOP primary for Governor: why, and why now?  The former VP and conservative stalwart answers the first, in rather personal terms.  Considering the reason Cheney offers to oppose Steve Poizner, the timing seems even more remarkable:

While I am always mindful of President Reagan’s 11th Commandment, there are issues of judgment that voters should consider before they cast their ballots in the Republican primary. I admire the success that Steve Poizner has had in the private sector and believe his commitment to public service is sincere. But I have concerns about whether he truly adheres to the conservative principles of our party.

In 2000, when I first ran on the national ticket with President George W. Bush, Mr. Poizner endorsed Vice President Al Gore. With the election hanging in the balance, he donated $10,000 to the Gore-Lieberman Recount Committee in Florida. In 2004, during the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, Mr. Poizner, who was then a candidate for the state Assembly, opposed the tax cuts that were the centerpiece of our economic recovery plan.

He also broke ranks with our party on national security and the “war on terror.” Mr. Poizner opposed the war in Iraq. To amplify his opposition to the national security policies of the Bush administration, he invited Richard Clarke to campaign for him in California. …

While I have doubts about the authenticity of the conservative voice that Mr. Poizner now speaks in, there is no disputing that Meg Whitman is the Republican the Democrats fear the most in this election. The unions and the Democratic donors invested in Attorney General Jerry Brown’s success have already started to run misleading ads attacking Meg Whitman. This is a clear admission on their part that Meg is the toughest Republican candidate for governor. The Democrats know that Meg can beat them in November, and, more importantly, they know she will put an end to the failed status quo in Sacramento as governor.

These aren’t bad reasons for Cheney to mistrust Poizner.  Poizner has explained his move from liberal to conservative, but it’s still legitimate to debate a candidate’s sincerity in those kind of declarations.  Poizner’s past endorsements and positions are fair game.  It’s also worth asking why anyone in California politics would think Poizner could gain by moving from liberal to conservative; even with the Tea Parties, the state’s electorate rewards liberals more than conservatives, especially in state-wide elections.

But why did Cheney make this announcement now?  Whitman just blew a 50-point lead in the polling.  This endorsement would have done more good a month or two ago, when Whitman’s polling began to slide.  The issues that creates Cheney’s doubts have existed for years.  Why did he wait so long to get involved?  It makes this look like a desperation rescue, which is hardly what Whitman needs at the moment.  It also skips over issues of authenticity that conservatives have with Whitman, as well as her ability to win an election at all, let alone in November.

I respect Cheney’s view on conservativism, and his endorsement should give Whitman some lift.  But if she was the candidate Cheney claims, she wouldn’t have needed it.

Update: Ugh.  Whitman’s running for Governor, of course, not the Senate, as is Poizner.  Thanks to commenter Disturb the Universe for slapping me awake this morning.

Update II: Steve Poizner’s campaign rebutted Dick Cheney’s claim today in a note to Hot Air:

While [we] greatly respect Vice President Cheney, there are several inaccurate comments in his posts, including:

1)      Steve Poizner is the only Republican Gubernatorial candidate who voted for President Bush in 2000 and worked for the Bush Administration as the director of Critical Infrastructure Protection in the National Security Council as a White House fellow. Steve Poizner never endorsed Al Gore. (READ MORE) In fact, Meg Whitman endorsed Sen. Barbara Boxer and AL Gore (as proven by several newspaper reports).

2)      Steve was in favor of the Bush tax cuts and he supported the invasion of Iraq.  The Whitman campaign repeatedly points to one inaccurate editorial in the That Palo Alto Daily News published when Steve was running for State Assembly. Steve does think there were mistakes in Iraq implantation, such as not using more troops to control the borders early on.  [We] don’t believe there was ever a correction written, but during that entire campaign this is the only report of either of these positions – this paper just got it wrong.

Whitman ENDORSED Al Gore For President In 2000:

In September Of 2000, Whitman Was Listed As A Supporter Of Vice President Gore’s Presidential Campaign. “Gore supporters already include such chief executives as Eric Schmidt of Novell, Steve Jobs of Apple Computer and Meg Whitman of eBay.” (Andrew J. Glass, “Candidates Woo High-Tech World With Similar Stands,” Cox News Service, 9/14/00)

Fellow San Jose CEO Bill Coleman Listed Whitman As A Supporter Of Vice President Gore. “‘The vast majority of technology executives are in the Bush camp. There are certain people active on the other side: [Novell CEO] Eric Schmidt, [Apple CEO] Steve Jobs, and [eBay CEO] Meg Whitman. But I can’t think of any other major CEOs,’ [BEA Software CEO Bill] Coleman says.” (Jennifer Jones and Bob Trott, “The Politics Of Technology,” InfoWorld, 8/28/00)

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Uh, Meg’s running for governor not senator.

Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM

It’s California, the only real conservatives left are living like partisans, running from one hideout to another trying to stay ahead of the leftist vampires who have taken over. What an effin mess that state has become.

Bishop on May 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Too me………..CHENEY’S ENDORSEMENT IS POISON!!!!

Cheney and his boss should be in deep doo doo legally for their failure to secure the border for 8 years (just so they could appeal to the slavemaster business buddies and the Mexican gov’t that U.S. dollars help prop up).

Whitman………..probably toast after this.

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Uh, Meg’s running for governor not senator.
Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Nit picker.

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

You mean Governor, not Senate! I wish he would endorse Fiorina in the Senate race, because Campbell is jihadi sympathizer in a way that would even scare Barack Obama.

thuja on May 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

But if she was the candidate Cheney claims, she wouldn’t have needed it.

Mountain out of molehill.

DaydreamBeliever on May 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Uh, Meg’s running for governor not senator.

Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM

[facepalm]

Fixed, credited, and will now pour the non-decaf coffee.

Ed Morrissey on May 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Nit picker.

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Eh, it’s a dirty job, but somebody’s got to do it.

Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

That being said………..can you imagine the dumbkopf JERRY BROWN as Governor in California?

I love California, have family there, etc……..but….

Californians………YOUR STATE IS DONE…….MOVE OUT NOW!!!!

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

[facepalm]

Fixed, credited, and will now pour the non-decaf coffee.

Ed Morrissey on May 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

No need for shame or credit.

Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM

If Poizner believes that he would do better running as a conservative rather than a liberal, does that mean there is hope for California?

Is liberalism toxic even in CA these days?

rbj on May 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM

That 50 point lead that Whitman had rings hollow to me. To have a 50 point lead when nobody is paying attention is pretty easy. It makes sense that it evaporated in general and then her anti-Arizona law stance explains away the rest of the slide.

myrenovations on May 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Thanks to commenter Disturb the Universe for slapping me awake this morning.

go ahead and get yourself another cup of coffee there Ed….no worries :)

cmsinaz on May 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM

facepalm]

Fixed, credited, and will now pour the non-decaf coffee.

Ed Morrissey on May 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

That’s okay, Ed. All white women look the same anyway.

/The Race Card

DaydreamBeliever on May 17, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Everything Dick Cheney has ever done for America and conservatism is now null and void because I did not like that he endorsed Kay Bailey Hutchison for Texas Governor.

RINO! RINO! RINO!
/sarc

Brian1972 on May 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM

No need for shame or credit.
Disturb the Universe on May 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM

J’accuse!

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

My California absentee ballot should be in the mail any day now… CAN’T WAIT!!

Khun Joe on May 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Why did he wait so long to get involved? It makes this look like a desperation rescue, which is hardly what Whitman needs at the moment.

#1) Why would Cheney even need to involve himself when Whitman had that 50 point lead? 2) While I do question Survey USA’s “548 LV”, it was understandable the the race would tighten up another properly run poll will most likely show Whitman with a 10-12 point lead.

It also skips over issues of authenticity that conservatives have with Whitman, as well as her ability to win an election at all, let alone in November

Really stretching it Ed, IMO, even while Cheney has listed EVERY REASON why Poizner would be the same old phony Republican that in the statehouse right now. Drink some more of that high octane coffee. Whitman’s just getting warmed up to give Brown a good licking in Nov.

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Insurance Commissioner Poizner Announces More Than 1000 Insurers Agree To Voluntary Sanctions Against Iranian Government

List of Insurers who Refuse Moratorium Revealed; $6 Billion in Current Holdings Disqualified from Insurer
Financial Statements for Iran Ties

You are subscribed to Press Releases for the California Department of Insurance. You are receiving this email because new information has recently been released.

You can access the department’s Communications Office Web page by clicking here.

California Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner today announced that 1,010 insurance companies – more than 75 percent of insurers licensed to do business in California — have agreed to forgo future investments in 50 companies identified as doing business with Iran’s nuclear, energy or defense sectors.

“This is a great victory for California consumers and sends a strong message to the regime in Iran,” said Commissioner Poizner. “More than 1,000 insurance companies have done the right thing and agreed that not another dime of their investments will go towards propping up that oppressive regime.”

As of March 31, 2010, the California Department of Insurance (CDI) disqualified an estimated $6 billion in holdings in the 50 Iran-related companies. This estimate is based on 2008 data, the most recent available information to be analyzed.

“With Tehran continuing its headlong rush to go nuclear, with Holocaust denier Ahmadinejad threatening genocide against Israel, with millions of Iranian people seeking to free themselves from the yoke of the Ayatollahs, it is outrageous that these companies have decided that it’s business as usual and will continue to invest in companies that actively support the Iranian government,” said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. “Commissioner Poizner should be commended for his leadership on this issue. All we have seen from the United Nations and the Obama administration and Congress is mostly talk. In California, we have real action and tangible results.”

Insurer investment in the 50 companies on the CDI investment lists totaled $1.8 billion during 2008 and averaged approximately $1 billion per year from 2005-07. Given this record, the decision by more than 1,000 licensees to agree to the investment moratorium means hundreds of millions of investment dollars will likely be diverted from these companies in the coming years.

California has the 4th large insurance market in the world – and as a whole, insurers are the largest investor group in the global economy, with an estimated $3 to $4 trillion in investments.

Commissioner Poizner also released a list of companies who would not agree to the moratorium. These insurance companies include MetLife, Safeco and Hartford. The complete list is attached.

Earlier this year, Commissioner Poizner announced that 100 percent of the 1,306 insurance companies licensed in California responded to his request to provide data on their investments with companies doing business with Iran’s, nuclear, defense, and energy sectors.

Commissioner Poizner first announced his Terror Financing Probe in June 2009 to review compliance with a recent California law that prohibits insurers from investing in designated state sponsors of terror. As part of a data call issued by the Commissioner, insurance companies were required to identify their direct investments in designated sectors of the Iranian economy and indirect investments in companies doing business in those sectors. In December 2009, the Department announced that insurers reported no direct investments in Iran and therefore are in full compliance with state law prohibiting those investments. But the Department uncovered billions of dollars of indirect investments in companies doing business with the Iranian oil and natural gas, nuclear and defense sectors.

Akzed on May 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM

I respect Cheney’s view on conservativism, and his endorsement should give Whitman some lift. But if she was the candidate Cheney claims, she wouldn’t have needed it.

Umm… what? Using that logic no candidate should ever accept an endorsement from anyone because it just shows them as ‘weak.’

As a California voter, I find Cheney’s endorsement extremely helpful. I distrusted Poizner and was leaning toward Whitman, but I didn’t know all of these things from Poizner’s past.

As for timing, I think it’s perfect. I received my absentee ballot form in the mail last Friday, as well as the GOP position platform on the referenda. Even though I am politically engaged, it’s only recently that I decided to sit down and wade through all of the propositions in preparation for voting.

Thank you, Dick Cheney!

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Cheney and his boss should be in deep doo doo legally for their failure to secure the border for 8 years (just so they could appeal to the slavemaster business buddies and the Mexican gov’t that U.S. dollars help prop up).

Whitman………..probably toast after this.

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Yep. And Whitman just dumped all over Arizona for their immigration law, and Poizner supported it.

I guess Dick Cheney’s definition of “conservative” equals “advocate for open borders.”

good to know

funky chicken on May 17, 2010 at 10:09 AM

It would be helpful if Poizner’s backers would explain why he sided with Gore in the recount.

That goes well beyond political expediency (which is how I interpret Whitman’s lukewarm immigration stand as a gubernatorial candidate in this state) into crass, win-at-all-costs political pandering. The recount was one of the most destructive and blatantly corrupt things in this country’s recent history. How Poizner could support it is beyond me.

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Let me explain the “late” endorsement by the ever-brilliant Dick Cheney. Voters have just now, at this moment, tuned into the race in a big way. Polls taken months out are not really indicative of the race, so claiming Whitman blew a “60 point lead” is misleading. Cheney’s endorsement, then, comes at exactly the right time to give voters information that will turn them to Whitman, without giving Poizner much time to respond.

That’s how the game is played, and Cheney knows how to play.

bonnie_ on May 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

bonnie_ on May 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

That’s exactly right.

Ed really didn’t think this one through. The timing is perfect – it coincides with the absentee ballots and party platform mailings.

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Whitman is against the AZ law. Based on the fact that Cheney was the VP to Bush and his ‘Compassionate Conservative’ schtick, his endorsement means very little to me. Whitman is no staunch right-wing Conservative by any stretch if the imagination. Ed nailed it on the head when he points out that a Liberal tacking right to get elected in California is some kind of Oxymoron. To be sure, there are a lot of fiscal right/social left Republicans in California, but they have to earn the votes of us hard-core Conservatives to win the primary. That’s all Whitman’s hoping for with this Cheney endorsement. Poizner is getting around and being heard. He was on Dennis Prager’s Talk Show last Friday. She needed something to stop the bleeding.

Bottom Line: You’re just your run-of-the-mill Republican if you need someone’s endorsement to help you choose your candidate. True Conservatives do the research and know who and why they vote the way they do and are willing to vote against the vote card lists sent by The Party when need be. Is Poizner a hard-core Conservative? No. But neither is Whitman. Cheney could use the same criteria to reject Whitman and support Poizner. No one can discredit Tom McClintock’s Conservative credits and he runs ads saying Whitman would be like a THIRD term of Arnold. Who knows Califormia politics better? Cheney who doesn’t live here? Or Tom McClintock who does?

Get the list of the issues facing a California Governor Whitman is against the AZ law. Based on the fact that Cheney was the VP to Bush and his ‘Compassionate Conservative’ schtick, his endorsement means very little to me. Whitman is no staunch right-wing Conservative by any stretch if the imagination. Ed nailed it on the head when he points out that a Liberal tacking right to get elected in California is some kind of Oxymoron. To be sure, there are a lot of fiscal right/social left Republicans in California, but they have to earn the votes of us hard-core Conservatives to win the primary. That’s all Whitman’s hoping for with this Cheney endorsement. Poizner is getting around and being heard. He was on Dennis Prager’s Talk Show last Friday. She needed something to stop the bleeding.

Is Poizner a hard-core Conservative? No. But neither is Whitman. Cheney could use the same criteria to reject Whitman and support Poizner. No one can discredit Tom McClintock’s Conservative credits and he runs ads saying Whitman would be like a THIRD term of Arnold. Who knows Califormia politics better? Cheney who doesn’t live here? Or Tom McClintock who does?

Bottom Line: You’re just your run-of-the-mill Republican if you need someone’s endorsement to help you choose your candidate. True Conservatives do the research and know who and why they vote the way they do and are willing to vote against the vote card lists sent by The Party when need be.

Get the list of the issues facing a California Governor and see where they stand. Neither of them are my perfect candidate but you choose the one whose stand on issues most aligns with your own. Poizner hasn’t hestitated since running to come down on the Right side of issues immediately. Whitman needs to be touchy-feely and nuanced in her pitch. Those are what we call in sports ‘tells’.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Sorry, wow. Something happened to my iPhone. I need a new one… =)

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Meg Whitman should lose this race, and if she doesn’t, she ought to lose the general election. She’s just a well-born rich girl who went to Princton and Harvard and has an MBA. She belongs to the ruling class. Her husband’s name is Griffith Rutherford Harsh IV. I am not making this up.

Emperor Norton on May 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Bottom Line: You’re just your run-of-the-mill Republican if you need someone’s endorsement to help you choose your candidate.

No one can discredit Tom McClintock’s Conservative credits and he runs ads saying Whitman would be like a THIRD term of Arnold.

You seem to be saying that Whitman is not a true conservative because she received an endorsement, while simultaneously propping up Poizner (who you admit is not a true conservative) by pointing to ‘true conservative’ McClintock’s endorsement of him.

Some logic.

What is the explanation for Poizner actively supporting Gore in the recount? Or is it your position that Bush-Cheney were such squishes that we would have been better off had Gore won?

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Just in case you get lost in my last post the meat is:

Get the list of the issues facing a California Governor and see where they stand. Neither of them are my perfect candidate but you choose the one whose stand on issues most aligns with your own. Poizner hasn’t hestitated since running to come down on the Right side of issues immediately. Whitman needs to be touchy-feely and nuanced in her pitch. Those are what we call in sports ‘tells’.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM

“..Ugh. Whitman’s running for Governor, of course..”

My dear Edward, you have been too long from the beautiful surrounds of Cerritos. Dick Cheney gave the most important reason for his endorsement in one of the quotes you cited above:

While I have doubts about the authenticity of the conservative voice that Mr. Poizner now speaks in, there is no disputing that Meg Whitman is the Republican the Democrats fear the most in this election. The unions and the Democratic donors invested in Attorney General Jerry Brown’s success have already started to run misleading ads attacking Meg Whitman. This is a clear admission on their part that Meg is the toughest Republican candidate for governor.

I can hear the howls now about Arnie and all that from the assembled throng here, and I think you were in swaddling clothes when Governor Moonbeam was tooling around in his old Plymouth, arms around Linda Rondstadt.

To quote so many of my neighbors here in Kar-Ri_Fohn-Nee-Yah, “No mas, No Mas!”

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I was using McClintock as a ‘point’ as to why Cheney’s endorsement should be meaningless. As in: whose more Conservative? McClintock or Cheney? They picked different candidates. Are you saying that McClintock was for Al Gore? Hardly! He choose Poizner for a reason. It’s up to YOU to learn about candidates beforehand.

Al Gore DIDN’T win. Moving right along. Where does Whitman and Poizner stand on the ISSUES now?

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Yes. We should NOT pick candidates on where they stand on the issues, but whether or not we think DEMOCRATS think they would lose to them. The recipe for success!

Besides, she us in lock-step with Cheney’s former Boss on Immigration Reform. Birds of a feather, you know.

/sarc

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

But if she was the candidate Cheney claims, she wouldn’t have needed it.

Did you say the same thing when people whined because Palin didn’t support Hayworth and DeVore? If they were such great candidates they shouldn’t have “needed” Palin’s support.

katiejane on May 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Al Gore DIDN’T win. Moving right along.

Sorry, but I won’t give Poizner a pass on this without some credible explanation.

You shouldn’t either.

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Besides, she us in lock-step with Cheney’s former Boss on Immigration Reform. Birds of a feather, you know.

/sarc

And illegal immigration would be eliminated* by now had Poizner’s candidate won in 2004.

(*because we’d have open borders – viva America!)

/double sarc

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Get the list of the issues facing a California Governor and see where they stand. Neither of them are my perfect candidate but you choose the one whose stand on issues most aligns with your own. Poizner hasn’t hestitated since running to come down on the Right side of issues immediately. Whitman needs to be touchy-feely and nuanced in her pitch. Those are what we call in sports ‘tells’.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM

I did get the list of issues and am choosing Whitman. I also grow weary of the “Third term of [insert name of despised politician here]” mantra. I seem to remember that being used quite a bit back in 2008 and also seem to remember a number of recent polls indicating that a lot of people would prefer a third term of “W” considering what The Pantload and his Merrye Menne have been up to.

You are indeed sultry (visited your site) and I suspect we would agree on a lot of issues. And I agree with what you have to say, in principle, but — as I said to Ed — you are clearly too young to remember “Governor” Brown whereas I remember both of them..

..and we don’t need Jerry.

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Either candidate, if succeed against Brown, will be another dissappointment to the true conservatives in the state.

jbh45 on May 17, 2010 at 11:43 AM

I think this Cheney endorsement helps Brown more than it helps Whitman.

YYZ on May 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM

I think this Cheney endorsement helps Brown more than it helps Whitman.

YYZ on May 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM

..and I think you would be wrong.

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 11:48 AM

katiejane on May 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM

DeVore didn’t and doesn’t ‘need’ Palin’s endorsement. Doesn’t change my mind. All she did was more than ensure that Campbell gets the nod by splitting the Conservative vote.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

You are mis-informed. I happen to be 41 and a native of Long Beach, CA. I also spent many a drive listening to the Sage from South Central. I know EXACTLY who Mr. Brown is.

And… Thank you for the compliment.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Besides, she us in lock-step with Cheney’s former Boss on Immigration Reform. Birds of a feather, you know.

/sarc

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Oh really? (from her website):

In contrast, Meg’s Republican opponent Steve Poizner has only very recently made the issue of illegal immigration a platform of his campaign.

“He is using this issue for political expediency,” Meg said of Poizner’s recent pivot toward illegal immigration. “And I think that’s wrong. I have been on this for 18 months and he has made this a centerpiece of his campaign. I think you just cannot trust someone who all of a sudden decides he’ll say and do anything to get elected in a Republican primary.”

The crowd enthusiastically applauded Meg’s plan, which says no to driver’s licenses, no sanctuary cities, and absolutely no amnesty.

You’ll have to define “lock-stepping” here SB. Clearly this is not the case where Whitman is standing.

..and we don’t need Jerry.

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Big Ditto!

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Much as I respect Dick Cheney, I have no intention of voting for Meg “Van Jones is a great guy” Whitman.

Kalifornia Kafir on May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM

YES! Really!!

1. Whitman, who supports abortion rights, is hoping to take the issue off the table in the general election by saying that her focus is elsewhere.

2. Whitman is also working to improve the GOP’s performance with the state’s sizable Latino population by distancing herself from Proposition 187, a 1994 ballot measure championed by former Gov. Pete Wilson (R) which was designed to prohibit illegal immigrants from using social services, health care, and public education in California.

Even though Wilson was the first big-name Republican to join her campaign, Whitman says that 187 was bad policy and she agrees with a court ruling which gutted key provisions of it.

“With regards to 187, this has been well decided by the courts, we must provide services to children. And this is the right thing to do and was rightly decided by the court,” said Whitman in response to an audience question. “We need to move beyond this.”

While opposing liberal Democratic calls to give drivers licenses to illegal immigrants, Whitman is trying to improve the GOP’s reputation with Latinos by saying she supports “comprehensive immigration reform,” federal legislation which includes earned legalization for the 12 million illegal immigrants currently in the United States.

That’s what she was saying back in November of 2009.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Meg Whitman’s reversals on political issues are well documented. And unlike others who may have started on the other side of the aisle, like Dennis Prager, or even Ronald Reagan, who converted over time in a process, Whitman’s changes have occurred over a few months, during a campaign, based on the people who are in front of her, and when it’s politically convenient.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Was that good enough for you?

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Our choices for California governor are pathetic. Whitman is Romney 2007 and Poizner is Romney 2008.

I love me some Cheney and share his concerns, but Tom McCLintock actually knows both candidates and is staking his conservative cred on Poizner. If electability should be a deciding factor, Poizner has the advantage as he has actually been elected to statewide office as Insurance Commissioner. Either way, I’m holding my nose and praying for wisdom.

Terrie on May 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Poizner endorsed Weird Al Gore? He just lost my vote.

Captain Kirock on May 17, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I can hear the howls now about Arnie and all that from the assembled throng here, and I think you were in swaddling clothes when Governor Moonbeam was tooling around in his old Plymouth, arms around Linda Rondstadt.

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM

No, I remember that quite clearly.

Ed Morrissey on May 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM

That’s what she was saying back in November of 2009.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Not to be picky, but the link you selected has the author, (Teddy Davis from ABC) doing a little “context-shifting” from his own interview and conviently left this out:

WHITMAN: “I would say having spent now, almost 9 months, traveling this state from Eureka to the Inland Empire to San Diego, the number one issue on the minds of voters is jobs. So this is where I spend the bulk of my time. And when I’m asked about immigration, I tell them what I think: Say what you mean, mean what you say. And, for the most part, I have not felt too much pushback on something like 187. People understand that it was struck down by the courts. And then I talk about securing the border, holding employers accountable for hiring undocumented workers, ending sanctuary cities.” actual text

She was saying this too in Nov. 2009 which dear Teddy didn’t mention in his follow-up two days later.

Rovin on May 17, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Governor Moonbeam was tooling around in his old Plymouth, arms around Linda Rondstadt

Today, his arms wouldn’t be long enough.

Emperor Norton on May 17, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Well, crud.

Cheney is my ‘main man’…… But endorsing any of these folks running for California Governor is like endorsing W.C. Fields for head of the Temperance Union.

Better if Mr. Cheney had stayed out of it completely.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2010 at 12:48 PM

This is what a long political winter in California for the GOP, gets us.

There is NO Republican Party in California. There is no Farm System, there are NO prospects. And there doesn’t look to be much potential in the next four year cycle either.

The folks running for office as Republicans here in California are seldom really Republicans, and are about as far from ‘Conservative’ as you can get. We breed “Rockefeller Republicans” here.

We actually have two solid Conservatives that I can point to: Darrel Isa, and my rep, Tom McClintock. And honestly, McClintock and I disagree on parts of the GWOT, and the war in Iraq. But 90% agreement is practically dogmatic allegiance, compared to the typical milquetoast Republican performance we see here.

I’ll vote for Poizner and DeVore. Poizner is my choice based upon my dislike of Whitman’s rocket ride to the right. A complete ride of convenience.

Why the rest of the country hasn’t heard DeVore’s message is shocking to me. In terms of Republican AND Conservative, DeVore is the real deal, and has my wholehearted support. Fiornia is Whitman-lite

That said, If Whitman prevails, I’ll vote for her over Brown. The same for whomever prevails in Republican Senate primary that ends up facing Boxer. But if I have to vote for Tom Campbell, I’ll need to get to confession – and take a shower.

juanito on May 17, 2010 at 12:59 PM

DeVore didn’t and doesn’t ‘need’ Palin’s endorsement. Doesn’t change my mind. All she did was more than ensure that Campbell gets the nod by splitting the Conservative vote.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM

So if DeVore can’t win, why doesn’t he drop out for the good of “the Conservative vote”? I haven’t seen any poll that shows him competitive or close to it since Campbell (supposedly urged by Whitman) switched to the Senate race.

CK MacLeod on May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM

so who am I supposed to believe now? glad I don’t have to vote on these two… sounds to me like there is no real republican running.

Kaptain Amerika on May 17, 2010 at 1:29 PM

I’ll vote for Whitman as I believe she has the better position on abortion…but it really doesn’t matter who becomes the Govenor…the position is impotent as the Liberal Democrats control the Legislature and they will until CA collapses under their tax and spend and pro illegal immigrant policies…

Ca needs to collapse, the leaches will move to another state and then those of us who reamin and are willing to do the work can begin to rebuild it…

CCRWM on May 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Why the rest of the country hasn’t heard DeVore’s message is shocking to me. In terms of Republican AND Conservative, DeVore is the real deal, and has my wholehearted support. Fiornia is Whitman-lite

Too bad he can’t win in stupid liberal air headed sleezy CALIFORNIA!

CCRWM on May 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Yep. And Whitman just dumped all over Arizona for their immigration law, and Poizner supported it.

I guess Dick Cheney’s definition of “conservative” equals “advocate for open borders.”

good to know

funky chicken on May 17, 2010 at 10:09 AM

****Color me a radical on this one but if you’re in the White House for 8 years and you essentially do nothing about the border, you are partly responsible for the crime and the loss of life of people killed/harmed by illegals.

Here in our area about 2 years ago we had a young mother killed by a drunken illegal. She was pregnant at the time with her 2nd child. The mother, the unborn child were killed the 2 year old daughter in the car survived and the drunk driver………ILLEGAL, with no drivers license.

Who bears responsibility for this?

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM

The 2nd part of that story……..

……the 2 year old (now 4) has no Mommy…..and the illegal was deported back to Mexico.

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 1:43 PM

One of them wanted Barbara Boxer to be our Senator and the other wanted Al Gore to be our President. I’ll let you guys figure out who is who, I’ve decided not to vote for either of them.

Dollayo on May 17, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Poizner’s rebuttal did not address the donations he made to Gore. Maybe $11,000 slipped his mind.

I hate to link to it, but this article actually seems to provide a reasonable explanation for Poizner’s motivations.

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Politics, Ugh! Cheney says “he did this and he said that” while Poizner says “uh uh, I did not but Whitman did this and that!”

All liars. All BS. It’s no wonder that the majority of citizens do not vote!

Vince on May 17, 2010 at 1:58 PM

I hate California politics. I respect Cheney, but I don’t believe I can bring myself to vote Whitman. Don’t get me wrong, Poizner sucks too. However, I don’t believe Whitman’s gut instincts are correct, and I believe she would get torn to shreds by the legislature.

El_Terrible on May 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM

A link to an archived article about Poizner joining forces with the Dems was sent to me this morning by The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association (the ones who basically got Prop 13 passed). A couple of interesting points (emphasis mine):

Dem picks GOP challenger to launch state tax campaign.

By Josh Wein | Staff Writer

SAN JOSE — Assemblyman Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, may have formally endorsed Redwood City Councilmember and Democratic candidate Ira Ruskin to replace him in November, but he picked Ruskin’s Republican opponent, Steve Poizner, to help launch a statewide ballot initiative modeled after a piece of failed legislation.

On Monday, Poizner and Simitian shared some valuable campaign-season face-time outside Independence High School in San Jose to kick off the statewide Taxpayers for School Improvement campaign. The group seeks to lower the threshold for voter approval of a school-sponsored parcel tax from 66 to 55 percent.
….
Poizner, a former Silicon Valley CEO who sold his company SnapTrack for a reported $1 billion, has pumped more than $1 million into his war chest in the form of personally guaranteed loans from investment bank Goldman Sachs. And he has not been shy about spending it on publicity to overcome the disadvantage of running as a Republican in the heavily Democratic district.

Although Poizner currently holds no elected office, he is in familiar territory with the taxpayer group. In 2001, Poizner donated nearly $200,000 to the campaign for Proposition 39, a similar initiative that successfully lowered the threshold for voter approval of a school construction bond from 66 percent to 55 percent.

Citing a need for local control, Poizner is again advocating a tinkering of the state’s largest property-tax protection — 1973′s Proposition 13, which essentially froze property tax rates, the public school district’s largest source of revenue.

Poizner and Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, who serves on the state Board of Education and will also work on the campaign, will both donate $25,000 to the campaign.

If Prop 13 gets “tinkered with” it will screw the state incredibly. Illegal immigration is a hot-button issue that is hurting CA immeasurably and Poizner’s position is strong on that. I’m just extremely leery of anyone who would weaken Prop 13, even if it’s “for the children” *spew*. Without a hold on the NEA and other unions the schools here are just bottomless pits to sink money into. The Democrats have been salivating at the idea of some Prop. 13 money and Poizer, based on his record, might cave.

NTWR on May 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Glad to see Poizner’s team is on the ball to squash Whitman’s inaccuracies.

And I’m sorry to say that, here in Californian, Cheney’s endorsement will prove to be more of a detriment to Whitman.

The Ugly American on May 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM

I can hear the howls now about Arnie and all that from the assembled throng here, and I think you were in swaddling clothes when Governor Moonbeam was tooling around in his old Plymouth, arms around Linda Rondstadt.

The War Planner on May 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM
No, I remember that quite clearly.

Ed Morrissey on May 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM

So do I… for 8 LONG years… Brown spent us into the ground just like his Dad (Pat Brown) did before Reagan won in 1966 and fixed the state finances… The apple doesn’t fall from the tree, and Brown is a rotten apple…

Khun Joe on May 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Let me explain the “late” endorsement by the ever-brilliant Dick Cheney. Voters have just now, at this moment, tuned into the race in a big way. Polls taken months out are not really indicative of the race, so claiming Whitman blew a “60 point lead” is misleading. Cheney’s endorsement, then, comes at exactly the right time to give voters information that will turn them to Whitman, without giving Poizner much time to respond.

That’s how the game is played, and Cheney knows how to play.

bonnie_ on May 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Ask Kay Baily Hutchison what a Cheney endorsement is worth.

DeVore didn’t and doesn’t ‘need’ Palin’s endorsement. Doesn’t change my mind. All she did was more than ensure that Campbell gets the nod by splitting the Conservative vote.

Sultry Beauty on May 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM

See above and ask Rick Perry what a Palin endorsement is worth.

DeVore is an idiot. He can barely pull 10% in a three way race. On the other hand, Carly and Campbell have been neck and neck. Carly can beet Campbell, who is to the left of Boxer. DeVore is irrelevant. A vote for DeVore is a vote for Campbell.

And a vote for Meg Whitman is lunacy.

Poizner is the right person for the job.

Whitman would be Ahhhhnuld on steroids.

gary4205 on May 17, 2010 at 2:41 PM

I like Dick Cheney because he at least tells you what he thinks.

But why do people hold him up as some kind of conservative hero? He’s the guy who said “deficits don’t matter” afterall….

therightwinger on May 17, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Devore is weak, IMO…Fiorina is the best best to actually win in California.

therightwinger on May 17, 2010 at 3:49 PM

I’m relatively neutral on Whitman, but I confess that Poizner creeps me out. On a purely visceral level, I despise the man every time his commercials air, and I hope he loses next month.

sulla on May 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Bad (Poizner), Worse (Whitman), Worst (Brown) – it’s too bad that they all can not lose.

I’m voting for Poizner because I think Whitman would fold quicker than Arnold to the Legislature. At least Poizner has done a tour of duty in the Sacto sewer.

Lou Budvis on May 17, 2010 at 5:19 PM

I’m really tired of being forced to choose the least offensive candidate. That being said, I have a HUGE problem with the fact that Whitman didn’t vote for 23 years. She’s been totally disengaged from the political process for 23 years and suddenly thinks she has all the answers? I don’t think so!

speed911 on May 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM

Poizner has a 100% approval rating from Planned Parenthood. He supports partial birth abortion and opposes parental notification. His newly minted position on illegal immigration is nothing more that pandering to get elected. Don’t believe for a second that he has become conservative. He is far more liberal than Whitman.

I’m shocked by how gullible some conservatives can be. This is the same kind of dysfunctional thinking that elected Arnold over McClintock.

mistythestripper on May 17, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Californians………YOUR STATE IS DONE…….MOVE OUT NOW!!!!

PappyD61 on May 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

With my parents in their 70′s, moving out is not an option. Unfortunately, we have enough reason to get on our knees every night to beg God’s help without having to shed tears of desperation for the State’s crash-and-burn approach to governing (sigh).

God, we need a miracle. Please. Amen.

DeoGratias on May 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Update II:

Now I’m confused. Could Vice President have his fact wrong?

Zorro on May 17, 2010 at 6:33 PM

She’s been totally disengaged from the political process for 23 years and suddenly thinks she has all the answers?

Would you prefer someone who donated $10,000 to Gore’s recount fund? And, no, I don’t buy his explanation that he was credited with the donation because it was a check written by his wife on their joint checking account. I’ve donated to candidates without my spouse getting credited using our joint account.

Y-not on May 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM