Video: The greatest political ad ever?

posted at 3:00 pm on May 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s not the greatest ad ever. If he had roped a calf or branded a steer or something, then it would have been the greatest ad ever. I watched it twice before googling around to see if it was some sort of stunt candidacy or “Funny or Die” parody. Nope. I think this guy is on the level. Although after watching it a third time, I’m still honestly not sure.

Only two things are certain, my friends: (1) He’s about to become the most famous agricultural commissioner candidate in America, and (2) Alabama politics are awesome. Exit question: Christie/Peterson 2012?

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I think its time to be blunt with the nitpickers.
We, the Repubs and company, eat our own while the thugs keep winning. So he holds the gun differently but I’ll bet all I have he knows how to use it. This litmus testing has to stop. Everyone has differences on certain things but are locked in on smaller government, lower taxes, states rights etc. For some their is no one who fills the bill; maybe thats why we are the minority in DC.

AReadyRepub on May 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM

My folks live in Alabama… and it is God’s country! That video was Da’ Bomb!!!!

The Dead Terrorist on May 16, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Straight shooter. I love this guy.

EarthToZoey on May 16, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Wow. He has my vote. And I live in Texas!

Dominion on May 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM

Love, love, love it!

thegreatbeast on May 17, 2010 at 12:42 AM

That was a big LOL :)

He looks like a really good candidate. If he wants to be elected he should make a little more serious ad though.

AlexB on May 17, 2010 at 12:46 AM

I love that on so many levels. I love the gun too man. Hoo-ah.

Mojave Mark on May 17, 2010 at 12:46 AM

So this is the Conservative vision of America? Not mine.

Sure, we’ll cheer for these guys because they obviously aren’t Commies, but chances are pretty high they’ll screw you over somehow, some way after they’re elected. Disagree with them and they’ll simply threaten to kick your a$$ thus making them right.

As bad as the Libtards in my book, but it ain’t my state, so what.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 17, 2010 at 12:50 AM

So this is the Conservative vision of America? Not mine.

Sure, we’ll cheer for these guys because they obviously aren’t Commies, but chances are pretty high they’ll screw you over somehow, some way after they’re elected. Disagree with them and they’ll simply threaten to kick your a$$ thus making them right.

As bad as the Libtards in my book, but it ain’t my state, so what.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 17, 2010 at 12:50 AM
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Dude, you need to get a grip and lighten up. That was the funniest political add I have ever seen. Would I take him seriously about the Winchester and the butt kicking? Absolutely not. It is the ones that smile and disagree with you and wait until your back is turned before they strike and sink in the venom loaded fangs that I’m concerned about. You know, like many who are in office now that we plan to have draw unemployment after November. Take care.

DL13 on May 17, 2010 at 1:39 AM

Yeah, I see your point-guess I’m trying to say that I’d like to see some more Thomas Jefferson types, you know, intellectual, quiet professionals who kick a$$ and take names with logic, common sense and actual positive results.

I suppose that’s why Sarah Palin is still my top pick as she comes closest to my vision of a strong American Conservative.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 17, 2010 at 1:54 AM

Oooooh, yes. I would so vote for this guy if I lived in Alabama.

There is no more pussy-footing around guys. It’s time to stand up boldly, clearly and loudly against the Marxists, the RINOs and Progressives on all fronts.

We need more ads like this one and more candidates like him.

Theophile on May 17, 2010 at 2:34 AM

Can I move to Alabama?

Driefromseattle on May 17, 2010 at 2:48 AM

when he pulled the rifle out I laughed out loud.

rob verdi on May 17, 2010 at 6:23 AM

I’m from Alabama, and take my politics seriously. It’s really funny that I decided who to vote for agricultural commissioner after reading Hot Air. And the REALLY funny part is it wasn’t from reading something Ed said. Way to go AP.

Squiggy on May 17, 2010 at 6:47 AM

Cool ad! I just wish he had more discipline with his trigger finger.

aikidoka on May 17, 2010 at 7:09 AM

Dale Peterson cooks his meat by staring at it.
Then cleans his teeth with a straight razor.

5u93rm4n on May 17, 2010 at 7:21 AM

I love that ad! Tell it like it!

Eyvonne on May 17, 2010 at 7:32 AM

I loved it when the gun came out but, the camera jumped around too much.

boomer on May 17, 2010 at 7:34 AM

2nd look at moving to Alabama

Alden Pyle on May 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM

Now tell me again about how Beta males have an evolutionary advantage…..

TheBigOldDog on May 17, 2010 at 7:40 AM

Masculinity is making a return.

Osis on May 17, 2010 at 7:42 AM

Masculinity is making a return.

Osis on May 17, 2010 at 7:42 AM

And women are very happy about this.

CarolynM on May 17, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Criminy, he must have watched it, how could he not smack himself in the forehead and ask to reshoot that part?

Tanya on May 16, 2010 at 5:31 PM

His finger is not on the trigger, blow it up, go frame by frame and you will see it is next to it, behind it, in a normal lever action grip…the guy knows how to use a lever action, you posers at a keyboard obviously don’t.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM

Cool ad! I just wish he had more discipline with his trigger finger.

aikidoka on May 17, 2010 at 7:09 AM

Read above….my God you guys are a bunch of sheep…first it’s a lever action, the hammer is not pulled back so it can’t fire, no way…second his finger is not on the trigger, but in a very normal lever actions grip.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Hey you damn kids, get off my lawn!

NickelAndDime on May 17, 2010 at 7:53 AM

His finger is not on the trigger, blow it up, go frame by frame and you will see it is next to it, behind it, in a normal lever action grip…the guy knows how to use a lever action, you posers at a keyboard obviously don’t.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM

:53 – :55 the finger is definitely in the trigger guard and in front of the trigger. At the end his finger is not in the trigger guard.

aikidoka on May 17, 2010 at 7:56 AM

It’s a rifle folks. :)

itsspideyman on May 17, 2010 at 7:57 AM

Love it! More like this!

petefrt on May 17, 2010 at 8:00 AM

:53 – :55 the finger is definitely in the trigger guard and in front of the trigger. At the end his finger is not in the trigger guard.

aikidoka on May 17, 2010 at 7:56 AM

I’ll repost my post of last evening at 9:13PM. Perhaps you haven’t read it and might learn something about the Model 94 and horseback carry of said rifle. He handles the rifle exactly like it has been handled, when drawn from a scabbard, for over a hundred years. That is the way you handle a 94 when empty chamber, hammer down.

My first rifle larger in caliber than a .22 was a Model 94 30-30. I was 15 and that was 54 years ago. My rifle has ALWAYS been the Model 94, in various calibers, except for one year when I carried a Marlin 336. My rifle now is the Centennial Model 94 made in 1994 in .30 WCF.

As to the finger in the trigger guard, I can tell most of you commenting about it have never set a horse with a 94 in a scabbard or with a thong in the saddle ring looped over the saddle horn.

On horseback the 94 is carried with an empty chamber, hammer down or on half cock. The common way to pull the rifle out is with four fingers through the loop and the finger in the trigger guard. The trigger guard is an integral part of the lever and as it is actuated the finger naturally has to fall into the trigger guard. A person practiced with the 94 can draw the rifle and lever a cartridge into the chamber about as fast as someone else can disengage their safety on a normal rifle.

I logged many miles on a Quarter Horse named Star, with a thirty-thirty in the scabbard. I worked around many ranchers and cowboys and fence riders in Nevada for a while. Most of them carried a 94, just as I described, and handled it just like Peterson.

Peterson’s 94, in the ad, looks like one of the later models, so it not only has a half-cock safety position and the safety tit under the stock, actuated by squeezing the lever against the stock, but also that damnable cross-bolt hammer block that Winchester added to satisfy the lawyers on the later models.

If Peterson really is a horseman and a Model 94 rifleman, then he was handling the rifle in much the way it has been handle by cowboys since 1895.

Yoop on May 16, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM

I thought this one of the series of “We Love Local Commercials” but it appears to be the genuine article.

wordwarp on May 17, 2010 at 8:09 AM

what I liked? He pulled the illegal alian issue & jobs into the mix – both super hot right now. This guy is no “dummy”, for sure. Also, loved the Winchester slung over his shoulders. Great touch. He’s got his finger on the pulse of the American people. The national GOP Hierarchy should study this ad and maybe get some ideas. DD

Darvin Dowdy on May 17, 2010 at 8:12 AM

His finger is not on the trigger, blow it up, go frame by frame and you will see it is next to it, behind it, in a normal lever action grip…the guy knows how to use a lever action, you posers at a keyboard obviously don’t.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM

Those who are complaining have probably never sat a horse, with a Model 94 in scabbard-carry condition (empty chamber, hammer down, grip ready to cycle lever as it is pulled from scabbard). I have.

Again, if Peterson is really a horseman and a user of the 94 then he has handled it EXACTLY as it has been handled for over a hundred years. Keyboard cowboys…

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM

If only the 2012 GOP nominee for President will run ads like that.
churchill995 on May 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM

DITTO. He speaks for me about all of D.C. Lock and load my friends, lock and load.

Nalea on May 17, 2010 at 8:38 AM

That is the type of guy we need in politics all over not just Alabama. I’m not talking about the horse, hat, or gun. He calls the opponent a dummy and refers to the people in charge as crooks. That is a straight shooter who doesn’t care what people think, just what is the truth and what is right. I love it!

jeffn21 on May 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM

:53 – :55 the finger is definitely in the trigger guard and in front of the trigger. At the end his finger is not in the trigger guard.

aikidoka on May 17, 2010 at 7:56 AM

Blow it up, Yoop is correct, it is not “on the trigger” but it is the way a lever action is handled.
I have had my 39A (my most favorite rifle) for over 40 years, it is almost impossible not to handle the rifle safely, except in the way it is handled on the video. That’s what makes a lever action so special (I have a few others, 336 second favorite), I consider them the safest of all rifles.
Not nearly the experience of Yoop, but if you walked around a few miles with one, you would get it…arm chair experts, Google experts, get out and try it.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM

I don’t think you even need a horse to understand. All you need is a lever-action rifle. I hunt with a Marlin 336. I carry it with a round chambered, three fingers in the loop, my index finger inside the trigger guard and my thumb on the hammer, which is in the half-cocked position. This is completely safe and the gun can be ready to fire in less than half a second.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 9:12 AM

What’s for dinner?

Cybergeezer on May 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM

Wow. He has my vote. And I live in Texas!

Dominion on May 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM

If you’re not sure how to cast your ballot in another jurisdiction, check with ACORN… or Chicago…

Khun Joe on May 17, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Now THAT is a political commerical.

drjohn on May 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM

WOW, Powerful straight talk. Love it! Wished more politicians would just speak their minds. Too bad he didn’t get to shoot a RINO.

generouse on May 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Who gives a darn about his finger. The guy’s ready for action.

drjohn on May 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM

This is completely safe and the gun can be ready to fire in less than half a second.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 9:12 AM

Exactly…no other rifle is safer…

Who gives a darn about his finger. The guy’s ready for action.

drjohn on May 17, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Ditto…the guys attitude says it all…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM

I think there may have been a cameo appearance by Mr. Ed. (Note the close-up on the horse when Peterson says “Who on earth…?”

Lothar on May 17, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Yeah, the trigger finger ruins the authenticity, but what I like?….

…ads, political or not, are a great bellwether for the mood of the country.

I like that…a LOT.

Saltysam on May 17, 2010 at 9:48 AM

A charismatic, regular extraordinary guy delivering a straight-forward message and posters are worried about where his trigger finger is? From where I sit, I would say it is on America’s pulse.

kingsjester on May 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM

All you need is a lever-action rifle. I hunt with a Marlin 336. I carry it with a round chambered, three fingers in the loop, my index finger inside the trigger guard and my thumb on the hammer, which is in the half-cocked position. This is completely safe and the gun can be ready to fire in less than half a second.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 9:12 AM

This is true. I have a Marlin 1894C, which is a lever action chambered in a 357 mag. I absolutely love that gun.

Saltysam on May 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM

WOW!!
I especially liked the “I’ll name names and take no prisoners” while positioning his rifle comfortably in his arm!

Willie on May 17, 2010 at 10:04 AM

This is true. I have a Marlin 1894C, which is a lever action chambered in a 357 mag. I absolutely love that gun.
Saltysam on May 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM

I really should get one of those as companion for my .357 mag revolver.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:04 AM

where his trigger finger is? From where I sit, I would say it is on America’s pulse.

kingsjester on May 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Great segue…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I want to move to Alabama to vote for him.

Mr. Joe on May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM

Ag Commissioner? This guy is selling himself short. Mr. Peterson may have appeared in the video, but he was imbued with the spirit of John Wayne.

scullymj on May 17, 2010 at 10:15 AM

PC has gotten the public so scared to say what they really think or want to say. In essence PC is just censorship disguised as claiming the government is teaching you proper manners.

B.F.S. Bull F^@king Shit or B.F. Skinner your choice. But in reality B.F. Skinner discussed controlling a groups actions by controlling how one member of the group (usually the leader) feels about their actions, right or wrong.

MSGTAS on May 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Whoops, in previous posts meant three fingers in the lever loop, not four. I may have extra body parts, but an extra finger is not one of them. ;-)

One more comment. Check the very stringent rules for SASS and Cowboy Shooting matches. The lever-action class starts with an empty chamber, hammer down. Check where the trigger finger is. They are strict: break any safety rules and you are disqualified. Again: check where the trigger finger is.

Same rules apply to the single action revolvers. Even though most replicas now come with transfer bars under the hammer the rules absolutely require Cowboy-carry: hammer down on an empty chamber. If you’re caught with all six chambers loaded you are out of the competition. When the revolver comes out of the holster guess where the trigger finger is.

Cowboy-carry, be it revolver or rifle, is the safest way to carry.

For those people the gun was just as much of a tool as a hammer or a fencing tool, and they learned the correct and safest way to do it from the mid-nineteenth century on.

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM

I really should get one of those as companion for my .357 mag revolver.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Do it. Mine has the S&W 686 for a friend. They get along just great.

Saltysam on May 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Ramma jamma, Yella Hammer, Give em Hell, Alabama!!!

pannw on May 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Masculinity is making a return.

Osis on May 17, 2010 at 7:42 AM

And women are very happy about this.

CarolynM on May 17, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Oh, yes!

NebCon on May 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM

The lever-action class starts with an empty chamber, hammer down.
Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM

No doubt, an empty chamber is the safest way to carry, but anyone who hunts like that had better plan on ending every hunt with a trip to the grocery store. Most deer don’t hang around for more than a millisecond or so after hearing the sound of clanking metal.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM

With all the quick cutting in the ad (sometimes mid-sentence!), I wonder if he’s anything like what the ad portrayed him.

Maybe he stutters and the takes used were the only ones he spoke clearly. Or maybe he said really crazy things, and this was what was weaned from his ramblings. (“As ag-com, I’ll nuke Cuba, shoot every democrat, outlaw not only illegal immigrants, but the legal ones too, and help the local farmer by forcing prisoners to work on farms, and I’m sure no liberal hippie scumbag will forget the name Dale Peterson!” after editing: “As ag-com, I’ll -snip- help the local farmer -snip- I’m -snip- Dale Peterson!”)

The funny thing is… I’d still vote for him!

Johnny 100 Pesos on May 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Hence, the reason why you carry with a round chambered in your weapon, and why you keep your finger off the trigger.

However, I’ll obviously defer to all the people on the internet calling others keyboard cowboys.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM

BEST.,
FREAKING
AD
EVER

HOLY
COW
THANK.
YOU.

I’d vote for this guy in A HEARTBEAT.

blatantblue on May 17, 2010 at 10:45 AM

the cutting was hilarious

this is AWESOME

blatantblue on May 17, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Masculinity is making a return.

Osis

It’s about time.

And women are very happy about this.

CarolynM

Yep.

beachgirlusa on May 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM

“YOU KNOW WAIII?

THUGS N’ CRIMINALS!”

blatantblue on May 17, 2010 at 10:49 AM

Had to watch this again today.

forest on May 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Had to watch this again today.

forest on May 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM

i just watched it twice
and probably will later

blatantblue on May 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM

This is the way everyone talks out here in the heartland.

faraway on May 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

So this is the Conservative vision of America? Not mine.

Sure, we’ll cheer for these guys because they obviously aren’t Commies, but chances are pretty high they’ll screw you over somehow, some way after they’re elected. Disagree with them and they’ll simply threaten to kick your a$$ thus making them right.

As bad as the Libtards in my book, but it ain’t my state, so what.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 17, 2010 at 12:50 AM

You probably don’t approve of Chris Christie either. FAIL.

fossten on May 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Hence, the reason why you carry with a round chambered in your weapon, and why you keep your finger off the trigger.

However, I’ll obviously defer to all the people on the internet calling others keyboard cowboys.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM

I wasn’t referring to deer hunting from horseback. I was referring to working from horseback, with a 94 as one of the take-along tools.

You ever carried a 94 in a scabbard on a horse? My guess is no. Ever carried a 94 in a scabbard on a horse that was snake-shy, in the high desert of Nevada for days on end? My guess is no.

The horseback carry is empty chamber, hammer down so you don’t put a hole through your leg, or kill your transportation. Hence the comment. ;-)

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Drooooooolllll (and I’m a guy drooling at that ad!)

That was like political porn; between that and Chris Christie I’m like good for the day. All I need to do is find that same Barry White track that Glenn Beck was listening to

Defector01 on May 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM

If he had roped a calf or branded a steer or something, then it would have been the greatest ad ever

Been around farmers in the mid-west, Illinois and Missouri and don’t know they branded their cattle or roped calfs in Alabama. Out west on the open range is where it happens, ain’t it? He talks like a lot of farmers I know–direct and to the point and I’d bet he can use the rifle.

Herb on May 17, 2010 at 11:35 AM

The horseback carry is empty chamber, hammer down so you don’t put a hole through your leg, or kill your transportation. Hence the comment. ;-)

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

How do you put a hole through your leg or kill your transportation if you keep your finger off the trigger?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Alabama politics are on another level. Even the so-called God-loving conservatives ones would make Satan wince.

When I was in college in Mobile I listened to the local conservative talk radio station who had a local rising star named Steve Nodine. Through the years he actually became involved in local politics eventually becoming a city commissioner. He made sure that he was highly involved in the controversial Boeing/Gruman tanker deal to maximize publicity for himself.

Well earlier this year, a bag of weed was found in his taxpayer provided truck. Then about a month later the hot real estate agent he was having an affair with was found dead in her front yard from a single gunshot to the head. His truck was witnessed being at the scene before the incident. The scumbag then checks himself into the local hospital due to mental issues.

That is why I keep screaming at you guys that think that any politician really gives a fook about this country.

ClassicCon on May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Most deer liberals don’t hang around for more than a millisecond or so after hearing the sound of clanking metal.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM

FIFY

fossten on May 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Great commercial, and I’m sure Mr. Peterson had the good sense not to film a commercial with a chambered round in his rifle. (Sheesh people!) I find all this hand-wringing by folks who go to the range occasionally but rarely, if ever, do useful work with their guns a little vacuous.

pugwriter on May 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM

The horseback carry is empty chamber, hammer down so you don’t put a hole through your leg, or kill your transportation. Hence the comment. ;-)
Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

No argument there. Hunting deer in the Georgia woods and riding a horse in the Nevada desert are two completely different activities. Considerations of firearm safety have to include considerations of the firearm’s use. Firearm safety is good only to the point that it renders the firearm useless. A lever-action rifle with an empty chamber in the Georgia woods is pretty useless. In thick woods and heave underbrush, a deer can disappear so fast you’ll wonder if it was ever really there.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Most deer don’t hang around for more than a millisecond or so after hearing the sound of clanking metal.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Hence, the reason why you carry with a round chambered in your weapon, and why you keep your finger off the trigger.
MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM

To try to show you are not wrong…you went from a political ad to hunting deer.
From off a horse on a farm, to hunting deer…btw, when hunting deer, a bullet in the chamber, and a slow pull on the hammer, little noise and still safer then a bolt or semi…often difficult to see if a safety is on, never difficult to see a hammer drawn back.
But that is not what it is about…when you are around guns all your life, like any tool, you use the tool according to it’s intended purpose.
This is a political ad, and once again, take the time, blow it up and you will see his finger is not on the trigger, but in a place that is most comfortable, safe, for handling a lever action…the guy is not all keyboard and no cattle…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM

How do you put a hole through your leg or kill your transportation if you keep your finger off the trigger?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Then you really haven’t been around guns that much…you don’t need a finger for a gun to go off.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Then you really haven’t been around guns that much…you don’t need a finger for a gun to go off.

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Really. Please explain, because I’ve been around guns since I was a child, and none of them have magically gone off without someone putting their finger on the trigger.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:56 AM

This is a political ad, and once again, take the time, blow it up and you will see his finger is not on the trigger, but in a place that is most comfortable, safe, for handling a lever action…the guy is not all keyboard and no cattle…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Um…go to the main page and look at the screencap.

The trigger is never a safe place for your finger. I don’t give a damn if the action is open so that you can see it’s unloaded. You don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you’re going to shoot.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I LOVE the way he says why

“WAIH?

blatantblue on May 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM

If the hammer is down (or half-cocked in the case of the later model lever actions), you cannot fire the gun using the trigger.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM

If the hammer is down (or half-cocked in the case of the later model lever actions), you cannot fire the gun using the trigger.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM

If you don’t pull the trigger, you cannot fire the gun, hammer up or down, chamber empty or loaded.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM

What’s for dinner?

Cybergeezer on May 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM

Red meat, Cybergeezer, red meat!

Rosmerta on May 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM

If you don’t pull the trigger, you cannot fire the gun, hammer up or down, chamber empty or loaded.
MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM

And if you don’t own a gun, you can’t pull the trigger.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

The trigger is never a safe place for your finger. I don’t give a damn if the action is open so that you can see it’s unloaded. You don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you’re going to shoot.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM

From a guy who doesn’t understand that you don’t need a finger on a trigger to fire.

How do you put a hole through your leg or kill your transportation if you keep your finger off the trigger?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

I don’t know you, I don’t know Yoop…but, no offense, I think Yoop has it right, and you are scrambling to save face.
And take some time, blow it up, watch it in slow motion…the man knows how to handle his rifle…maybe not the way city boys like it, but he isn’t hunting deer, and he is not on a target range, and he is not sitting on a computer googling “handling a rifle safely”….

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Great ad, but I’d have focused on the other end of the horse for the “who on earth” line. Can we please get some guys like that up here instead of Barney Frank and John Kerry?

Chickyraptor on May 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM

And if you don’t own a gun, you can’t pull the trigger.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

…but if you were hunting a deer, and your friend had a gun, and you took the gun out of his hands, and your finger was on the trigger, and the gun went off then you didn’t own the gun, but you pulled the trigger…that is the way you argue when you are losing an argument…just make up silly scenarios.
&
The basic fact is this…the ad is awesome, any diversion away from the ad is giving liberal ammunition…
The ad is exactly what it is, a tough guy, talking tough, and to the point…refreshing, and if the rest of views represent what he is presenting, good luck to him.
I hope he sets a tone of being straightforward and honest…

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM

And take some time, blow it up, watch it in slow motion…the man knows how to handle his rifle…maybe not the way city boys like it, but he isn’t hunting deer, and he is not on a target range, and he is not sitting on a computer googling “handling a rifle safely”….

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Man…that is funny.

ClassicCon on May 17, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Talk about going off on a wild tangent, I can’t believe ya’ll are arguing about the trigger lol As far as I’m concerned he can just use the rifle to club a criminal or a lib senseless as long as he does what he says he’s going to.

beachgirlusa on May 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM

And if you don’t own a gun, you can’t pull the trigger.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Lovely. Glad to see you take gun safety seriously.

From a guy who doesn’t understand that you don’t need a finger on a trigger to fire.

Which you’ve yet declined to explain. How do you fire that rifle without pulling the trigger?

I don’t know you, I don’t know Yoop…but, no offense, I think Yoop has it right, and you are scrambling to save face.

…in what way? Anyone who teaches firearms safety teaches you to keep your finger off the trigger, because that’s the only true safety.

And take some time, blow it up, watch it in slow motion…the man knows how to handle his rifle…maybe not the way city boys like it, but he isn’t hunting deer, and he is not on a target range, and he is not sitting on a computer googling “handling a rifle safely”….

right2bright on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

…as opposed to others referring to others as “city boys” on the internet, while simultaneously calling others keyboard cowboys. How do you keep your head above the irony? I’ve have expected you to drown by this point.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM

The basic fact is this…the ad is awesome, any diversion away from the ad is giving liberal ammunition…
The ad is exactly what it is, a tough guy, talking tough, and to the point…refreshing, and if the rest of views represent what he is presenting, good luck to him.
I hope he sets a tone of being straightforward and honest…

right2bright

A+

beachgirlusa on May 17, 2010 at 12:39 PM

How do you put a hole through your leg or kill your transportation if you keep your finger off the trigger?

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

You seem to be the declared expert, so I’ll give you some clues, so you can tell us how this can’t happen.

Older model 94, hence no transfer bar or hammer block. Rebounding hammer. Round in chamber. Rifle in tight fitting scabbard so that safety tit on bottom tang is pushed in as lever is inserted. Strike hammer with rock, whipping tree branch, or horse falling on that side. Guess what happens.

It has happened before. The older Winchester 9422′s were easy to demonstrate this on. So please tell us how it went off with the trigger well inside the scabbard with NO finger on it.

I await your proof it takes a finger on the trigger.

That is also why the older Colt six-shooters were carried with an empty chamber under the hammer. You could drop them out of a holster, onto the ground, and they could go off if there was a round in the chamber, and the hammer struck a rock. NO FINGER ON THE HAMMER!

I await your proof it takes a finger on the trigger.

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM

And if you don’t own a gun, you can’t pull the trigger.
RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:18 PM

…but if you were hunting a deer, and your friend had a gun, and you took the gun out of his hands, and your finger was on the trigger, and the gun went off then you didn’t own the gun, but you pulled the trigger…that is the way you argue when you are losing an argument…just make up silly scenarios.

My comment was intended as sarcasm aimed at the ‘you-can’t-fire-a-gun-if-you-don’t-pull-the-trigger’ nonsense.

I’m at a loss to understand why you don’t consider hunters to be legitimate gun owners. The vast majority of rifles and shotguns in this country are owned by hunters.

RedWinged Blackbird on May 17, 2010 at 12:53 PM

NO FINGER ON THE HAMMER!>>>> NO FINGER ON THE TRIGGER!

Duh.

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM

So wait…you’re arguing that there’s nothing unsafe about keeping your finger on the trigger by arguing that an external force used on the hammer in a scabbard that disables the safety tit can cause a discharge?

…great.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Keyboard cowboys…

Yoop on May 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM

Can’t see the vid here at work-filter :(
But one thing is for sure, there are TONS of people on this site & all over who have no clue what it is to be a ‘cowboy’.
Ugh. The speculation about that life is irritating.
‘Dudes’ tick me off.

Badger40 on May 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I’m a bit jaded I guess. We have a couple of candidates in AZ who really really talk tough about cutting taxes and stopping the spending… all about what great businessmen they are…. and on and on… they sound great. They show themselves in this kind of rural, cowboy setting.

But they don’t bother to say what party they are. Democrats.

I have no trust of any Democrat. They will say anything at all to get elected–then do what ever the heck they want.

So, I’m not getting swept up in any politicians ads.

But hey it was a fun spot.

petunia on May 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM

as opposed to others referring to others as “city boys” on the internet, while simultaneously calling others keyboard cowboys. How do you keep your head above the irony? I’ve have expected you to drown by this point.

MadisonConservative on May 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM

I’m not commenting on this gun safety fight.
But I would like to say that if you are a city boy, then that’s what you are to us out here.
And there are many who claim to know something of ranch life or cowboying, but all they know is what they learned maybe from some guy’s branding one weekend or from watching a western.
I am here to tell you that the knowledge of being a ‘cowboy’ or a ‘rancher’ will never come to you any other way but living it.
And since I live this life, I feel I can serve as an expert on it.
Most of you here are citified. Like it or not.

Badger40 on May 17, 2010 at 1:16 PM

They show themselves in this kind of rural, cowboy setting.

But they don’t bother to say what party they are. Democrats.

petunia on May 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM

I have to tell you one thing.
I know lots of real cowboys.
NONE of them are democrats.

Badger40 on May 17, 2010 at 1:18 PM

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