Video: Holder really, really doesn’t want to talk about radical Islam
posted at 4:58 pm on May 13, 2010 by Allahpundit
Excruciating, not least of all because he ends up basically agreeing with the premise of the question. Yes, of course Shahzad “might have been incited” by radical Islam. He’s an Anwar al-Awlaki fan who went to Pakistan for bomb-training, didn’t he? And yet … he can’t quite bring himself to say that. The best he can do is a clumsy, heavily qualified admission that while Awlawki’s version of Islam is wrong, “people who espouse a radical version of Islam have had an ability to have an impact on people like Mr. Shahzad.” So palpably uncomfortable is he that I honestly feel a little sorry for him. Pathetic. Says Andy McCarthy, “How can you ever hope to stop something when you refuse even to speak its name?”
Incidentally, it’s worth reading the NYT’s recent profile of Awlaki in light of Holder’s answer; note the detail about his 53-disc boxed sets on the life of Mohammed. For a guy who’s evidently so misguided about what the Koran says, he sure has spent a lot of time studying it.
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WTF!?
nickj116 on May 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM
If Holder were honest, he would just plug his ears and shout “na na na na I can’t hear you” in response to the question.
The Obama “administration” on terrorism – See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”.
NoDonkey on May 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Eric…how about Tea party members??
WhatsRight on May 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Holder espouses confidence in the justice system.
Kini on May 13, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Wow. That’s a lot of child p0rn.
lorien1973 on May 13, 2010 at 5:04 PM
I don’t get it. He seemed much more sensible when he was on Barney Miller.
Daggett on May 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM
His boss may be a Moslem. He can’t touch dat!
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM
quick to blame tea partiers.
hesitant to blame muslims.
that says everything you need to know about them.
you cannot develop a good policy or even successfully execute a bad policy if it’s based on faulty assumptions, incorrect presuppositions and bad interpretations of data.
these denials are inextricably bound up with their appeasement policies which have made us less safe – according to hayden and many others.
we are most definitely headed for a colossal attack on the homeland – sooner than anyone thinks.
by the end of the year.
they’ve been planning it since the day obama was elected, and everything obama and his comrades have done has made it easier and more likely they will succeed.
reliapundit on May 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Reminds me of the infamous picture of some of the Democrats who helped to bring us 9/11. A golden oldie for sure!
http://www.communistsforkerry.com/images/Seenoevil_large.jpg
Del Dolemonte on May 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Daggett, was that really him? I used to watch that show and the other night when I saw the pic I wasn’t sure if it was a photo shop. Was that really ‘the dink’?
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Don’t get him started.
This “war on terror” hooey is just a distraction from the “war on teabagging”.
That’s when the fur really starts flying.
NoDonkey on May 13, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Holder is just an apologist for an apologist. He is no better then a bug… on my shoe.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Well, that was not his job.
Holder is primarily to make sure Black Panther type can freely express their 1st Amendment, and to collaborate with ‘The System Worked’ Napolitano on rightwing extremists (Tea Partiers, and returning vets).
Sir Napsalot on May 13, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Yeah, but I don’t think he’s allowed to eat hash brownies in the WH.
Del Dolemonte on May 13, 2010 at 5:08 PM
“He [Holder] referred to al Qaeda recruiter Anwar al-Awlaki as beholden to “a version of Islam that is not consistent with the teachings of it.”
Why, I never knew that Holder was an Islamic theologian, along with his many other skills!
Realist on May 13, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Terrorists win.
MadisonConservative on May 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Wow. Now thats some deep deep deep deep denial on display right there
Zetterson on May 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Eric Holder
Jesse Jackson
Quick!!! Which one is which?
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:10 PM
Holder=moslem
Inanemergencydial on May 13, 2010 at 5:10 PM
When I am running for president in 2012, I will show that video and near the end you will hear me saying, “My attorney general will know who to protect you from.”
Ira on May 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Check out this clip of Holder from last year (scroll to bottom for the video clip) in which he refuses to concede that someone trained at a terrorist training camp is a terrorist: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/05/attorney-general-assures-congress-only.html
Mervis Winter on May 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM
What makes anyone think that Erica Stedman wants to stop jihady killings ?
macncheez on May 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Please pass the Windex for my monitor.
LMAO! Erica Stedman!!!
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Hoe do you fight an enemy you wont even identify?
Yakko77 on May 13, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Knock, knock. Hello, is anyone home?
He wasn’t “incited” by “radical” Islam. He was incited by Islam.
MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 5:18 PM
He’s either being a good dhimmi or a good Muslim practicing taqiyyah. Expert on Islam, sure.
SirGawain on May 13, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Dude. You need to get out of NYC more often. That wussified Libtard environment is starting to affect your judgment. You feel sorry for a man in a position of power, out top cop so to speak, who refuses to come to terms with the nature of the enemy out of PC concerns?
I’ll say it again. DUDE.
Guardian on May 13, 2010 at 5:18 PM
We are such deep pooh…
d1carter on May 13, 2010 at 5:20 PM
The quickest way to make someone like that break is throw questions at them without an ability to think the question thru, they eventually stumble.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM
David Howell Petraeus and Stanley A. McChrystal don’t much want to talk about Islam either.
See no Islam. Hear no Islam. Speak no Islam. Know no Islam.
The Three
StoogesDhimmis.MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM
We need this whole Administration out of office. They are either unintentionally ignorant or intentionally treasonous.
kingsjester on May 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM
wow, was that painful to watch
Doctor Zhivago on May 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM
He is just repeating what his Muslim handlers have told him.
BL@KBIRD on May 13, 2010 at 5:23 PM
Dear God.
capitalist piglet on May 13, 2010 at 5:23 PM
Do We Deserve a Mosque at Ground Zero?
We plug our ears, drowning out our better judgment with counsel from apologists for Islam, flimflam men who, like carnival hawkers, are adept at misdirecting attention away from the Islamic doctrinal motivations behind what is a global jihad, waged both openly (violently) and more subtly, to advance the influence of Sharia in the world. Indeed, we become apologists and flimflam men, too. Or maybe we just don’t care. “If it’s legal, the building owners have a right to do what they want,” said a spokesman for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
If it’s “legal”? What if it mocks the dead?
Maybe we deserve such a mosque at Ground Zero. It will serve as the perfect monument to post-9/11 America, a shining reproach to a nation that long ago capitulated through loss, or worse, absence of will.
MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 5:24 PM
This administration scares the heck out of me. I am so ready for the era of political correctness to come to a screeching end!
truetexan on May 13, 2010 at 5:24 PM
It doesn’t help Obama to advance his takeover of the US Government to demonize Islam at this time.
He needs domestic enemies like Wall Street, Big Drug, Big Food, Big Bankers, Big Insurance, Arizona, Limbaugh, Rich…..White…..People. He needs targets close at hand, within busing distance where he can send out his people along with TV cameras to make his case for more government.
Once Obama has total control of the Government, then he needs a foreign enemy to rally his people.
Skandia Recluse on May 13, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Good point. However, let’s take it one step further. Islamists are born and bred and feed on the mothers milk of of its teachings. There is no “radical” or “moderate” islam. There is only Islam and its teachings.
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM
So slow to condemn radical islam, so quick to condemn Arizona.
Desert Gardens on May 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM
Nevah gonna happen. Evah.
Key West Reader on May 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM
It’s redundant to say radical Islam. Islam is radical by it’s very nature.
If you don’t believe me, just listen to Lt. Col. Allen West
therightscoop on May 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM
See if he’s willing to discuss “Islamism”, the political-military movement instead.
flipflop on May 13, 2010 at 5:29 PM
In that screen grab of him, it looks like he is trying to pass an exceptionally large digested waffle.
GnuBreed on May 13, 2010 at 5:29 PM
i was wondering where i had seen him before lol, been years since i watched that show.
trailortrash on May 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Col Allen West 2012!
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Or vice versa.
A foreign engineered disaster to shore up control here.
Sir Napsalot on May 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Pathetic.
I cannot wait for Holder to lose his job and be held accountable for jeopardizing our nation’s security. He has been a tool for undermining our country for political and ideological reasons all the way back to the Clintoon days.
onlineanalyst on May 13, 2010 at 5:33 PM
He’s tasting the diarrhea about to come out of his mouth. Warren Moon looking jackass.
SirGawain on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Do you feel safer?
d1carter on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM
This guy just seems to be f-ing with Holder.. It almost looks like he is trying to fight back the smile everytime he repeats himself. Kinda funny…
Jussi on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM
We have to deal in baby steps. We’re not going to get the left to even hint that Islam is at fault until they accept radical Islam is at fault.
amerpundit on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM
such as….
Dirty Bomb? Nuclear facility explosion? Hawaii or Alaska invaded?
Oh the possibilities are endless.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Is Holder even barely cognizant?
If Alwaki, living a virulently Islamic nation like Yemen, were espousing a “version” of Islam he would be committing apostacy and “true beleivers” would out for his head, literally. Instead they coddle, enable and shield him from extradition.
This is absurd!
Why? Because he is practicing the true version of Islam which is quite clear about its motives, intents and methods.
The congress himself was barely sufferable with his qualifications of “I’m talking about radical Islam, not the broad swath of the religion..”, but Holder couldn’t even support that tenditous approach.
Is all of DC F%$#ing delusional, did mad the mad doctor Zawahiri concoct a serum of stupid juice and taint their water supply?
WTF!
Until, as this man who himself is surrounded lick-spittle pansies, says;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k&feature=related
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Holder is a closet muslim? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
capejasmine on May 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM
He isn’t, Infidel. In Islam you don’t just advance to the top right away. We had to teach him how to be a good dhimmi first. Now that we have done that we will start soon with his formal theological training.
محمد اغتصاب الفتيات الصغيرات. وكان والده بقرة. كانت والدته خنزير.
Aleph on May 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Moderate Islam is to Islam as Nancy Pelosi is to Catholicism
- The Cat
MirCat on May 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM
No Kidding! I’d vote for Lt. Col. Allen West/2012 in a heartbeat!
therightscoop on May 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM
the only way for that to happen, would be one of our elite liberal senators or congressmen murdered by an Islamist extremist.
But even then our government would probably apologize for it.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Oops! That was supposed to read,
Until we, as this man who himself is surrounded lick-spittle pansies says
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Exactly correct.
And Holder should be arrested and tried for violation of his oath of office for this performance.
Rebar on May 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Wow, what does it matter consistent with teachings of islam or not? Was radical islam a factor? It sounds like the need to embelish islam is bigger for holder, than to prevent new attacks…
anikol on May 13, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Hell, Petraeus and McChrystal might even be more difficult to train up than them.
MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Wait til they start chopping off gay heads and killing porn stars. The liberals will have to pick which special interest group to back. My guess is the ones with the guillotine.
SirGawain on May 13, 2010 at 5:39 PM
therightscoop on May 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Ahh, we’re on the same wave lenth, and the same youtube page as well.
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM
when you get a moment.. contact me.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Beware the Allahwock, my heroic one!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Mohmoh bird, and shun
The frumious sirasnatch!
Colonel West took his vorpal sword in hand
Long time the Korxome foe he sought
So rested he by an old oak tree
And stood awhile in thought
And as in thought he stood
The Allahwock’s Mohmoh bird seeking the west to put to flame
Came whiffling through the tugly wood
And burbled as it came!
One, two!
Red, White and Blue!
The Colonel’s vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left the Allahwock’s Mohmoh bird dead, and with its head
He went gallantphing back
Cheshire Cat on May 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Orwell is calling. He wants royalties from this administration on their use of doublethink. “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them…”
tommylotto on May 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I think he doesn’t want to offend the religion of his boss.
BKeyser on May 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM
1984 merged with animal farm.
Where is our Galt?
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM
therightscoop on May 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Col Allen West 2012!
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Ditto + 1000!
Never thought I’d be guilty of having a “man-crush” but, West iz da BoMb!
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM
The secret simply will not keep
For America is losing sleep
It’s time to break the spell
Who is Allen West and what is he up to, do tell?
Rumor has it he’s a cannoneer
He’s a reckless buccaneer
I hear he carries several guns with many clips
He’s the annihilator of Islam creeps with information on their lying at his fingertips
They say he’s nearly seven feet tall
And yet quite graceful…all in all
I’m told there are lightning bolts when he walks
And thunder when he talks
Is he vulgarian or sleek?
Just what does he seek?
I hear he’s steely as you please
I hear he’s really Japanese
He may be shrewd
He may be rude
Ah well, it’s hard to tell
Who is this Allen West, do tell?
The Muslims may think he comes from hell
Or maybe just from somewhere around the dell
But he will be here and he will be there
You could see him giving Islam Hell most any time and most anywhere
He meddles with the Islamic Devolution
Stomping them mightily throughout each week
Spoiling every Imam’s lying elocution
La, what cheek!
PercyB on May 13, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Yep. We better figure out a label…Westians or something. Sign me up.
MadisonConservative on May 13, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Is he our Galt? I don’t know of anyone on the Right or conservative or even any Libertarians who don’t like him.
Only the left.
Makes one wonder.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Mad.. get behind me. I am having an idea and you know how those go.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Warren Moon looking jackass.
SirGawain on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Hey man, leave Warren outta this, he doesn’t deserve being compared to this cretin. Warren a decent chap who was a hell of a quaterback (see greatest come back ever, Oilers v Bills) never had a big head about it and a cool dude.
I went to school with him at Udub.
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM
These are not serious people.
Mason on May 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Unbelievable the logical and linguistic contortions he goes through to qualify any question or statement with the word “Islam” in it… I think the new word we need is for Holder and company — ostrich seems to fit the bill quite well.
ProfessorMiao on May 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Sweet Evil Jesus…
*enters bunker*
MadisonConservative on May 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where’s the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn’t there a knight upon a fiery steed?
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight!
Somewhere just beyond reach
There’s someone reaching back
Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat
It’s gonna take a Superman to get America back on it’s feet
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
He’s gotta be larger than life
Up where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I would swear there’s someone somewhere
Watching thee and me
Through the wind and the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood
I can feel Allen West’s approach
Like a fire in the blood
- Bonnie Tyler
MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 5:59 PM
1984 merged with animal farm.
Where is our Galt?
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:44 PM
If he’s smart he sipping scotch up in his gulch waiting to pick up the peices after all these looters have been vanquished from our midst. You my dear are but a Dagny trying vainly to hold the RR together.
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Why do so many of these bozos believe that they understand “Islam” well enough to tell everyone else what it is not?
Does Holder think he is an expert on Judaism or Buddhism? Christianity? — such that he can tell congress why one person’s understand of those religions is somehow wrong? This is a special kind of dhimmitude. Bush suffered from this disease, as well.
Jaibones on May 13, 2010 at 6:02 PM
This is what blows my mind. How it even remotely possible that the people we trust to run our country and the military leaders who are tasked to protect us from enemies do not understand this???
Islam is Islam. Period. Also, one cannot be a Muslim without practicing the religion Islam because that practice is what qualifies one as a Muslim.
Awlaki did a great job of explaining how it works in that NYT article:
There are two conventional narratives of Mr. Awlaki’s path to jihad. The first is his own: He was a nonviolent moderate until the United States attacked Muslims openly in Afghanistan and Iraq, covertly in Pakistan and Yemen, and even at home, by making targets of Muslims for raids and arrests. He merely followed the religious obligation to defend his faith, he said.
“What am I accused of?” he asks in a recent video bearing the imprint of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. “Of calling for the truth? Of calling for jihad for the sake of Allah? Of calling to defend the causes of the Islamic nation?”
racecar05 on May 13, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Um, he was the losing QB that day. Frank Reich took the Bills from down like 31-7 to a like a 35-31 win.
itsnotaboutme on May 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Yep. We better figure out a label…Westians or something. Sign me up.
MadisonConservative on May 13, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Hmmm, WESTern Horde? I dunno, but you’re right.
Screw Fla’s 22nd, we need to start a draft West campaign
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:06 PM
The AG of the US being cross examined like a hostile witness
by a prosecutor that knew the answer, and knew as well, that the record would show an unwillingness to go on the record.
That was the reason for the slight smile.
This whole administration needs to go from office first, and jail after that. There is criminal negligence across the board.
ontherocks on May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Holder! Blame talk radio for the terrorism! You’ll be laughed at, but less than how you’re being laughed at now, & the Left will love you more!
itsnotaboutme on May 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Go back and look at the video of Holder again…
… Then compare that to Lt. Col. Allen West.
The stark difference should send a shiver up your spine once you realize whom the American people have voted into power…
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Mad.. get behind me. I am having an idea and you know how those go.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Sweet Evil Jesus…
*enters bunker*
MadisonConservative on May 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Hey if you two are plotting some West in ’12 movement I want in. And have some experience having worked on 3 Prez campaigns before.
C’mon, plaese, please, I wanna play too!
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM
You cannot make this up: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmY4MTcxNzI0NGUyMGQwN2U0MzhiMzlkNDFiMTkxNDE=
The Feds are paying a terror-affiliated mosque in VA for office space… for a pretty penny.
onlineanalyst on May 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Correcting myself (sorry about the OT, but I didn’t bring it up!), it was 35-3 Oilers before Reich led the Bills to a 41-38 win. Incidentally, Frank Reich also led the Maryland Terrapins in–at the time–the biggest NCAA comeback ever.
itsnotaboutme on May 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM
West = FOLLOW ME
Holder = who me? why me?
ontherocks on May 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM
Um, he was the losing QB that day. Frank Reich took the Bills from down like 31-7 to a like a 35-31 win.
itsnotaboutme on May 13, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Y4eah I know, but it was a great game! And Moon set a lot of NFL records w/out even counting his days in Canada.
Besides the point though, Warren is a really nice guy and not anywhere close to as irrational as Holder.
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Not only there the “We won You lost” issue there’s also the matter of Call to Prayer blasted out of loud-speakers five times a day. Forget ringing church bells, people will have “Allahu akbar” ringing out of their ears.
ExpressoBold on May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM
LOL I am seeing who I “rally”.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Mr. Holder must be afraid of a visit from the easily-aroused PC Police. I hear they stop you on the street or come to your office or home and demand to “see your papers” if you criticize Islam or jihad.
ExpressoBold on May 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:11 PM
LOL I am seeing who I “rally”.
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Sweet! If you start getting traction I can give you a throw-away email addy to get ahold of me.
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM
helpingpalin at g mail
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Embarrassing. McCarthy has it pegged.
BadgerHawk on May 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM
I think Allen West already has a Presidential campaign manager lined up – Diana West.
LTC Allen West for Congress (December 26, 2007)
Elect (and Clone) Allen West (October 08, 2008)
LTC Allen West (USAR) on Geert Wilders (January 26, 2009)
MB4 on May 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM
helpingpalin at g mail
upinak on May 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Roger that!
Archimedes on May 13, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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