University to Swedish Mohammed cartoonist: You’re no longer invited to give lectures

posted at 10:03 pm on May 12, 2010 by Allahpundit

Pure scum. They might as well have let those degenerates tear him apart yesterday. Either way, he’s silenced.

Swedish cartoon artist Lars Vilks, who became the target of an alleged international murder plot for his 2007 cartoons of Mohammed as a dog, again angered Muslims Tuesday by showing an Iranian film that depicts the Prophet entering a gay bar.

When Mr. Vilks showed a scene from the film at Uppsala University in Sweden, a protester charged the dais and hit him, breaking his glasses. Police were forced to detain or pepper-spray some unruly members of the crowd as other protesters yelled “Allahu Akbar” – “God is great.”…

Officials said they would “not likely” invite Vilks again because of the incident. In some quarters, the university’s reponse is adding to concerns that violence and threats from some members of the Muslim community are effectively muzzling free speech.

If you think this couldn’t happen at an American university, bad news: It already has. In fact, I’ve seen examples of it with my own two eyes. The punchline? As usual, appeasement only encourages further aggression by lowering the threshold for what constitutes actionable offense. Read this Paul Ibrahim piece at Pajamas contrasting western groveling to jihadis with the insults routinely thrown at Mohammed by an Arabic evangelical TV network. Ibrahim draws the lesson that if you act like a dhimmi, you’ll be treated like one. I think it’s more complicated than that — Arab atrocities against Arabs have always been vastly more tolerated in the Middle East than, say, western atrocities against Arabs — but good luck explaining how and why bowing to every threat of violence is making western media safer.

Oh — Vilks’s website was hacked this morning, too. Just another way to shut him up. Exit quotation from the man himself: “What you get [when you appease] is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university… I’m ready to go up again. This must be carried through. You cannot allow it to be stopped.”


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SHUT UP DHIMMIS!

It was nice knowing ya europe, what with all your wars, crap philosophy, and crap socialism.

Inanemergencydial on May 12, 2010 at 10:05 PM

Chicken…

Khun Joe on May 12, 2010 at 10:05 PM

*~@:{(>

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

this guy has balls, good for him. BTW, what’s a “dhimmi”?

ted c on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Appeasement? They wouldn’t be stupid enough to do that, would they? Aren’t they the “intellectual elite”?

GarandFan on May 12, 2010 at 10:08 PM

I’ve seen examples of it with my own two eyes.

Woah. Nice post.

John the Libertarian on May 12, 2010 at 10:09 PM

BTW, what’s a “dhimmi”?

ted c on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM


A dhimmi is a nonmuslim living in a muslim land.

Inanemergencydial on May 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM

And we saved their collective ass*s in two world wars why?

I guess on October 10, 1944, my Grandfather was killed in action in vain…

Gothguy on May 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Winner.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM

No worries, Comedy Central will have you anytime…well, maybe not.

d1carter on May 12, 2010 at 10:12 PM

Did anyone really expect anything different from the Swedes?

Ace can fill you in on the Iceback Scandi scourge.

Brian1972 on May 12, 2010 at 10:13 PM

From earlier…

Know the history of your enemy!

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:13 PM

Europe is already lost to the jihad.

In a few more years, things like this will be so commonplace as to not even raise an eyebrow.

Rebar on May 12, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Sweden is a country of slaves looking for a master.

Holger on May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

So even as the knife is at their neck they will not see the truth, kind of what I am getting. There are enough examples, blatant examples, in past and recent history to show the error of appeasing these types.

bluemarlin on May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Hiding in their ivory tower…

Karmashock on May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Dhimmi – non Muslim resident who can be intimidated.

Infidel – non Muslim who cannot be intimidated.

One is mistreated; the other respected.

Caststeel on May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Arab atrocities against Arabs have always been vastly more tolerated in the Middle East than, say, western atrocities against Arabs

Even when the western atrocities were imaginary.

exception on May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Gustav Adolphus would be turning in his grave.

Holger on May 12, 2010 at 10:16 PM

So, drawing cartoons of Mo’ is bad, but yet we can’t talk about Muslim male honor raping? Yeesh.

According to local media reports, a man named Yama, the 30-year-old son of the Jowzjan governor, and his friend Hashmatullah, the 28-year-old son of the provincial police chief, was seen by local herdsmen having sex with 24-year old Shokreya and 22-year-old Jamila.

The herdsmen allegedly stole the men’s guns and money and gang raped them in retribution for the ‘dishonor’ they had committed by having sex with the two young women.

Go sell crazy somewhere else. We’re full here.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 12, 2010 at 10:16 PM

He should join Ayaan Hirsi Ali and take up a post at the AEI.

amerpundit on May 12, 2010 at 10:16 PM

But, but, the Bible is violent too! Witch trials! The Crusades!

Most of Leviticus! Islam and Christianity are like totally the same!

/collapses

July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM

macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 10:19 PM

I had no idea they were that far gone… WOW!

Inanemergencydial on May 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM

In some quarters, the university’s reponse is adding to concerns that violence and threats from some members of the Muslim community are effectively muzzling free speech.

Some quarters? In which quarters is that not a “concern”?!?

KS Rex on May 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Chuck Norris and Lars Vilks can come to my place for beer and BBQ any time they like.

Bishop on May 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Maybe the Muslim Immigrants and the Illegal Aliens should form a new Political Action Committee paid for by our tax dollars…

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM

It’s called diplomacy. The gentle art of lying to a superior in hope your weakness will go unnoticed. Or lying to an inferior hoping to keep him confused until you have completed your coup.

Those with honesty and principles need not apply.

Caststeel on May 12, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Appeasement monkeys. I guess they feel if kiss extremists asses, then they will unclench their fists. These people make Neville Chamberlain look Reaganesque.

Southernblogger on May 12, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Swedish cartoon artist Lars Vilks, who became the target of an alleged international murder plot for his 2007 cartoons of Mohammed as a dog, again angered Muslims Tuesday by showing an Iranian film that depicts the Prophet entering a gay bar.

Mo’ as a ‘mo?

/s

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 12, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Sweden just needs to try midnight basketball.

Inanemergencydial on May 12, 2010 at 10:27 PM

How many American universities will invite him to speak about free speech? Harvard? Yale?… anyone?

Urban Infidel on May 12, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Columbia?

Urban Infidel on May 12, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Columbia?

Urban Infidel on May 12, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Now you’re just being silly.

July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Dude….

Rightwingguy on May 12, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Columbia?

Urban Infidel on May 12, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Or that bastion of tolerance and free speech
UC Berkeley ?

macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 10:31 PM

by showing an Iranian film that depicts the Prophet entering a gay bar.

Shouldn’t the muslims be tearing up Tehran right about now?

Bishop on May 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM

this guy has balls, good for him. BTW, what’s a “dhimmi”?

ted c on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

A little reading for you

Connie on May 12, 2010 at 10:33 PM

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Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

7%-

I think you mean:

*~@):~{>

And here’s the bumpersticker

Vilks’ drawing of the Modoggie
is now available in a fine print limited edition for about $350 US.

An investment in freedom!

Here’s Vilk’s interviewed about his many death threats and a burqa clad “Swedish” woman openly calling for his assasination.

profitsbeard on May 12, 2010 at 10:36 PM

The threat is very real. We can go on and on about how the University is weak and cowardly. But we’re not the ones making decisions about the safety of others.

Lots of people work for and attend this University.

On a related topic, lots of people work for Comedy Central. There are plenty of Production Assistants with no bodyguards and security in their homes.

There’s nothing that can be done about this. The violence is built-in, hardwired to the religion. And the religion is not going away.

July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Let’s celebrate the lack of Swedish balls with some Swedish music.

OxyCon on May 12, 2010 at 10:46 PM

In some quarters, the university’s response is adding to concerns that violence and threats from some members of the Muslim community are effectively muzzling free speech.

Really? No kidding.

I suppose we should be encouraged that sanity has at least penetrated “some quarters.” But it is still quite a leap from sanity to courage, even in those quarters.

rrpjr on May 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM

There’s nothing that can be done about this. The violence is built-in, hardwired to the religion. And the religion is not going away.

July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM

There is a lot that can be done about it, if we really want to.
Stop bringing them into our country. Stop bending our laws to appease them. Give them the option of living either in a civilized society or a sharia $h!thole, the 2 being on different continents. For starters.

macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Islam is winning,wake up western civilization!!

canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM

There’s nothing that can be done about this. The violence is built-in, hardwired to the religion. And the religion is not going away.
July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Exhibit A of Dhimmitude, ted c.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 12, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Here’s Vilk’s interviewed about his many death threats and a burqa clad “Swedish” woman openly calling for his assasination.

profitsbeard on May 12, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Gee, remember the days when “Swedish woman” conjured up visions of this and this?

CarolynM on May 12, 2010 at 11:03 PM

What’s the big surprise here?

American colleges and universities have been enforcing their own brand of Sharia Law stateside for years. It’s called Political Correctness.

Ya gotta give it to the Intelligentsia and their fellow Elites, though. They’ve been living as academic dhimmi’s for a long time.

Submission to the Islamists isn’t much of stretch; in fact, it’s a logical consequence.

Bruno Strozek on May 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM

There’s nothing that can be done about this. The violence is built-in, hardwired to the religion. And the religion is not going away.
July 10 on May 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM
Exhibit A of Dhimmitude, ted c.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 12, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Right. My guess is the latte sipping secular Starbucks crowd will be first in the dhimmitude line, followed by Hollywood and liberal Jews.
Those ignorant Bible and gun clinging rednecks will never submit.
Time for the best 20 seconds in the movie “300″: “Submission…now that’s a bit of a problem…”

CarolynM on May 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Intimidation does work…most every paper in the U.S. was afraid to print those cartoons…

right2bright on May 12, 2010 at 11:16 PM

I can hear the clanking of those two brass cojones of his all the way here in California.

Bob's Kid on May 12, 2010 at 11:19 PM

As far as I am concerned, this guy is a hero.

Ever notice how the fascist Liberals seem so tolerant of these fascist Muslims? I believe that the Liberals must see something familiar in how Muslims force their message of fear and servitude and seem them as kindred spirits.

watson007 on May 13, 2010 at 12:02 AM

“I’m ready to go up again. This must be carried through. You cannot allow it to be stopped.”

This man is a true warrior. Must be a lot of Viking blood in him.

ZenDraken on May 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM

There is a lot that can be done about it, if we really want to.
Stop bringing them into our country. Stop bending our laws to appease them. Give them the option of living either in a civilized society or a sharia $h!thole, the 2 being on different continents. For starters.

macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 10:51 PM

We’re not going to stop bringing Muslims into the USA. You’re living in a fantasy world if you think that’s going to happen.

I agree that bending our laws to appease them will not help. Nothing can appease Islam. But see, I take the unpopular view that this is not a “personal” thing for Muslims. It’s simply part of their religious beliefs to kill those who insult Islam, it’s nothing personal.

As far as giving Muslims a choice to live in either a civilized society or one under Sharia, you’re gonna have to get a lot more countries than the US onboard with the mass deportations. Again, it’s a fantasy.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 12:15 AM

The only way this shit works is if WE let it. I don’t welcome my new socialist overlords and I damn sure won’t be welcoming any RoP ones either.

hillbillyjim on May 13, 2010 at 12:38 AM

As far as giving Muslims a choice to live in either a civilized society or one under Sharia, you’re gonna have to get a lot more countries than the US onboard with the mass deportations. Again, it’s a fantasy.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 12:15 AM

No, it’s not. There is pushback across the Continent from the native cultures of several EU countries, and the recent votes across Europe bear this out. SOME people are waking up to face the reality that their multi-culti socialist fantasies are just that. There’s your fantasy.

hillbillyjim on May 13, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Again, it’s a fantasy.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 12:15 AM

How could a nation ~like 1939 America~ with WW I era weapons, a rag-tag military, and a mainly-pacifistic, isolationist population, ever face- much less defeat- three militaristic, modernly-armed, fully-mobilized and fanatical enemies- Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan, simulataneously?

Wasn’t that even more of a fantasy?

profitsbeard on May 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Jimmy was a Dhimmi…
Obama is a Dhimmi…or worse.
From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
A Dhimmi pays the Jizya. The religious tax paid by those who do not practice islam. All manner of restrictions are placed on Dhimmis. Their word is not worth squat against a muslims in sharia courts…islamic courts.
Religious buildings, the construction or transformation to a Church or Synagogue is allowed or disallowed at the discretion of the islamic majority. When a Church burns down one is rarely allowed to be built in its place.
In Saudi Arabia there are no religions allowed but islam. They will confiscate your Bible, Bhagadvad-Gita Ode to the Flying Spaghetti Monster…whatever. Images that represent any religion but islam are pixilated on TV and in movies.
And they practice one of the most radical forms of islam. Wahabbism is what spawned the 9/11 scumbags that came from there. 9 of the 11 if I’m not mistaken.
It may not seem possible now, but stopping muslim immigration must be pursued. islam and freedom are incompatible. islam is slavery. It is a totalitarian form of government in the guise of a religion. And as a religion and a government in one…mix hatred and love of god in one and see what madness you get. You get islam and the millions of dead that go with it.
islam has been killing in its dead false prophets name for 1400 years and only its end will see the end of its killing.
muslims must be set free of the slavery and brainwashing of their religion and islam must cease to exist. Free men and women cannot suffer slavery to exist and islam is just that. No hatred for muslims. Hatred for islam and the Bloody imams that send children to die for the moon god. Hatred for those that knowingly kill innocents in the name of islam. Hatred for those “men” that gas third grade school girls for having the audacity to seek and education in muslim lands.

Mo’s face was deformed…severely. Hence no images of him. He was gross lookin’. Ugly even. Scary ugly. “Look Mom, a monster!” ugly.

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

Army Brat on May 13, 2010 at 12:57 AM

They do the same thing in Chapel Hill. The University students try to silence diversity in speech. And the tax payer subsidizes their scholarship. Sick, ain’t it?

bloggless on May 13, 2010 at 1:55 AM

Don’t forget, May 20 is Everybody Draw Mohammed Day.

FierceGuppy on May 13, 2010 at 2:05 AM

No, it’s not. There is pushback across the Continent from the native cultures of several EU countries, and the recent votes across Europe bear this out. SOME people are waking up to face the reality that their multi-culti socialist fantasies are just that. There’s your fantasy.

hillbillyjim on May 13, 2010 at 12:41 AM

I am aware of some of the pushback across Europe and Britain. Nonetheless, mass deportations are (at this point) a fantasy. Unfortunately, their “multi-culti socialist fantasies” are quite real. It’s just that the reality is pretty awful.
When I say “there is nothing that can be done about this,” I mean there is nothing that we can do to change Islam. (I suppose we could theoretically have a Total War to destroy all of Islam, but it seems so preposterous it’s not even worth discussing.)

Those that are standing up for free speech in the face of Islam are obviously brave, but they may also be a bit naive. Some think that criticizing Mohammed is the equivalent of criticizing any other religious figure, but they are sorely mistaken. For instance, there is nothing in Buddhism that demands that all Buddhists must kill those that insult Buddha.

It seems strange to us, but Muslims aren’t acting violent because they are personally offended by such cartoons/depictions/novels, they are following their religious obligations to kill cartoonists and novelists.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 2:39 AM

Islam is nothing more than a dangerous cult. I call it islam. No upper case “i” necessary. Why waste keyboard time with unnecessary finger movement? Saves time and effort and deservedly, richly, so.

Sherman1864 on May 13, 2010 at 2:52 AM

Sherman1864
You got it. I stopped capitalizing all islamic terms except for Infidel, as I am one. The rest…mohammed, islam, ayatollah, imam, ummah…whatever…gets no respect for me.
Peruse the pages of the ayatollah sosmelly’s little green book of islamic jurisprudence.
In it discover the islamic way to sodomize an infant. Pay attention or you might do it the wrong way. Learn what to do with the Camel you just had sex with according to islamic teachings.

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

Army Brat on May 13, 2010 at 5:15 AM

They would more likely invite the leader of Hamas to think and call it diversity.

rob verdi on May 13, 2010 at 5:34 AM

Vilks is a hero.
Pray he doesn’t become a martyr.

Europe is a lost cause.

Disturb the Universe on May 13, 2010 at 7:56 AM

There’s a reason that governments have a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.

John Deaux on May 13, 2010 at 8:30 AM

It seems strange to us, but Muslims aren’t acting violent because they are personally offended by such cartoons/depictions/novels, they are following their religious obligations to kill cartoonists and novelists.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 2:39 AM

It seems strange to me that you are able to somehow justify this as perfectly natural to them just bcs it’s their ‘religion’.
Islam is a political ideology dressed up as a religion.
It is incompatible with Western ideals of freedom.
They will never be able to co-exist in the same country.
You are the perfect example of the dhimmi, as related above.
The devil (Allah) is making them do it, right?
So while I understand you do not accept their reactions, you are basically just shrugging your shoulders & with a ‘what can one do’ attitude.
Oh muslims will be muslims, huh?
Those crazy buggers. They can’t help it, the Koran told them to do it.
While you sit back on your laurels & softly moan that there’s nothing to be done so just accept our fate, the rest of us are fighting these animals.
If any country has the ba!!s enough to stop islam from taking over, it’s us.
And I will be right in line with the rest of the infidels waiting to defend my right to live under whatever ideology I choose & NOT islam.
Go hide your head in the sand July.
We’ll wake you up when it’s over so you can continue to sip your lattes in peace.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Unlike Western Europe, the US has a more pressing immigration problem, with millions of illegals from Central and South America pouring across the southern border.

But it is also true that we are also letting lots of Muslims from West and South Asia in as well, and the Islamists among them will become a fifth column aimed at overthrowing our Constitution and replacing it with a Sharia-based theocracy. Mosques are springing up all over the country, many of them funded by Wahabbist (sp?) money from Saudi Arabia.

The solution to both problems is a radical tightening of our immigration laws and controls. Obviously that will take a conservative Executive and a conservative Congress. So instead of pissing and moaning about the imminent demise of our civilization, let’s get the liberals, ‘moderates’, and RINOs out. Keep the focus on November and on 2012.

MrLynn on May 13, 2010 at 9:03 AM

I wouldn’t get too outraged at Europe, because it’s happening here too.

Heralder on May 13, 2010 at 9:09 AM

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Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

BRILLIANT!

Akzed on May 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM

The Middle Eastern Arabic street, as opposed to the Arabs here in North America or the western-educated illegitimate leaders they have down there, respect only a strong hand. Be it from their own butchering leaders, from Israel (e.g. 1967 ass-kicking), or from western infidels.

How unfortunate that the west has to degenerate itself to such a level to get any sort of respect. The choice is degenerate yourself, or not degenerate yourself. The humanist and educated society we live in won’t allow for this (maybe it’s snobbery too), so the alternative is this indignity that we are seeing where a Swede, in Sweden, is getting punched for a cartoon.

AlexB on May 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM

The Middle Eastern Arabic street, as opposed to the Arabs here in North America or the western-educated illegitimate leaders they have down there, respect only a strong hand. Be it from their own butchering leaders, from Israel (e.g. 1967 ass-kicking), or from western infidels.

How unfortunate that the west has to degenerate itself to such a level to get any sort of respect.

AlexB on May 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM

I’m not sure what kind of “respect” you think the strong handed leaders are getting on the “Arabic street,” but I assure you that those leaders have just as much of a problem with Islamists as we do.

Muslims don’t respect “strength”, they respect Islam.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Muslims don’t respect “strength”, they respect Islam.

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM

I agree.
But strength is still a sign of ‘respect’.
When used as a verb:
to relate or have reference to
strength can be related to a grudging ‘respect’.
I can say with the utmost certainty that anyone, whether they are muslim or not, will ‘respect’ the fact that if they mess with someone who has the ‘strength’ to defend themselves by any means necessary, they will be harmed.
This is a strong statement.
Sorta like the one I make when I post signs on property saying that trespassers will be shot.
The walk softly & carry a big stick thing has great power.
Intimidation through power is a great incentive to straighten up your act.
I think we all know how this changed the Japanese directive at the end of WWII.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Islam is a political ideology dressed up as a religion.
It is incompatible with Western ideals of freedom.
They will never be able to co-exist in the same country.

Correct.

The devil (Allah) is making them do it, right?

Yep. Islam commands them to kill the infidels and kill those that insult Islam.

So while I understand you do not accept their reactions, you are basically just shrugging your shoulders & with a ‘what can one do’ attitude.
Oh muslims will be muslims, huh?
Those crazy buggers. They can’t help it, the Koran told them to do it.

Pretty much.

While you sit back on your laurels & softly moan that there’s nothing to be done so just accept our fate, the rest of us are fighting these animals.
If any country has the ba!!s enough to stop islam from taking over, it’s us.
And I will be right in line with the rest of the infidels waiting to defend my right to live under whatever ideology I choose & NOT islam.

Good for you. Do tell, what exactly are you doing to “fight islam” and “stop islam from taking over”?

What are your goals in this fight? Are you fighting to destroy all of Islam? Are you fighting to oust all Muslims from our land? Are you fighting to “change” Islam?

We’ll wake you up when it’s over so you can continue to sip your lattes in peace.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM

When it’s over? And when will that be? When all the Muslims are gone? When the Muslims have been ousted from Sweden? Yes, do wake me up when that happens.

My point is, we’re not dealing with Muslims’ personally hurt feelings. We’re not going to convince them that drawing Mohammed is okay. The threats and killings will continue, as they are simply fulfilling their religious duty to kill those that draw pictures of Mohammed. (I know it seems like a strange religious duty, but, there it is… Allah the Merciful!)

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 1:30 PM

I guess on October 10, 1944, my Grandfather was killed in action in vain…

No. And some of us still remember. And some of us still have respect for those who paid for our liberty.

oldleprechaun on May 13, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Wow, MM favorably linking LGF. 2006. Those were the days.

Pervygrin on May 13, 2010 at 3:00 PM

What are your goals in this fight? Are you fighting to destroy all of Islam? Are you fighting to oust all Muslims from our land? Are you fighting to “change” Islam?

Here in ‘whitebread’ North Dakota, I do what I can-educate myself about them & others who do not know or understand.
I help ‘enlighten’ them.
I don’t have any reason to ‘change’ islam.
That is for those who ‘follow’ it.
muslims who are here in this country, along with ALL OTHERS have no right to ACTIVELY pursue avenues that are eager to OVERTHROW our way of life (i.e. govt, Consitution, Bill of Rights, etc.).
If this means that I must be active in efforts to limit immigration of these people bcs they come here & foment dissent & seek to impose Sharia upon us, then that is what I will do, when I can.
To ‘destroy’ islam is not my goal. Leave us alone &/or live in their little he!! hole is fine with me.
Satanists, whom I find extremely disagreeable as I do those who espouse islam,live amongst us also.
I’m not in a campaign against them being here as long as they follow the laws & are not here illegally, foment dissent, advocate overthrowing the govt, etc.

We’ll wake you up when it’s over so you can continue to sip your lattes in peace.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM
When it’s over? And when will that be? When all the Muslims are gone? When the Muslims have been ousted from Sweden? Yes, do wake me up when that happens.

My point is, we’re not dealing with Muslims’ personally hurt feelings. We’re not going to convince them that drawing Mohammed is okay. The threats and killings will continue, as they are simply fulfilling their religious duty to kill those that draw pictures of Mohammed. (I know it seems like a strange religious duty, but, there it is… Allah the Merciful!)

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 1:30 PM

I am not in it to destroy all of them.
It is best that we isolate them & let them kill each other off.
Educate & enlighten them when we can.
But I do not sit by & just ‘accept’ that it is their religous faith & shake my head at their ‘silliness’.
I don’t attempt to rationalize their actions at all.
You cannot bcs the Koran advocates the suspension of other people’s RIGHTS.
People practice genital mutilation. Are you going to stand by on that & just shake your head about it & shrug your shoulders that hey, savages will be savages, & trot along your merry way?
Your kibbitzing is outrageous.
Islam is a threat to our way of life & they are TAKING IT TO US.
The ball is in our court.
If you ignore it & defeatedly accept that it will never stop, you will be overrun by it.
It is unrealistic to say they must be annihilated.
It is also suicidal to throw up your hands & do nothing.
Not all religions or cultures are =.
Some really are better than others.
Are you suggesting that we just let these ‘boys’ be boys bcs that’s just what islam is all about?
You are free to postulate this idiocy bcs you live in a free society.
You would be singing a different tune, I would wager, if you lived as a dhimmi in Egypt, Iran, United Arab Emirates,Iraq where ever.
This ideology is threatening our way of life.
As long as muslims follow the Koran, they are incompatible with Western society.
In reality, the only way to contain this problem is to contain all muslims to themselves.
Isolation by whatever means necessary is a good alternative.
I’m not looking at extermination.
They need to be cut off from all freedom-loving societies.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Not all religions or cultures are =.
Some really are better than others.

I have never argued otherwise.

Are you suggesting that we just let these ‘boys’ be boys bcs that’s just what islam is all about?

Not exactly. I’m suggesting that the violence of Islam is hardwired to the religion. That the violence is the point. And “confronting” Islam with depictions of Mohammed only gives Muslims an excuse (and opportunity) to fulfill their religious duty.

You would be singing a different tune, I would wager, if you lived as a dhimmi in Egypt, Iran, United Arab Emirates,Iraq where ever.

I doubt it. My “tune” is simply that Islam is fundamentally different from other religions. The violence of Islam is not a defect, it is a main feature.

In reality, the only way to contain this problem is to contain all muslims to themselves.
Isolation by whatever means necessary is a good alternative.
I’m not looking at extermination.
They need to be cut off from all freedom-loving societies.

Badger40 on May 13, 2010 at 4:04 PM

We can all agree that that is unrealistic. Mass deportation is a fantasy. It is not going to happen.

Regardless, it is not what is at issue here. What is at issue is a cartoonist being no longer invited to give lectures at a University.

Islam does not demand that Muslims prevent the future drawings of Mohammed. It demands that Muslims kill those that depict Mohammed or insult Islam.

Our policy to not “give in to the terrorists’ demands” is predicated on the belief that the terrorists’ demands are the endgame of the terrorist. But with Islamist terrorists the endgame is not what gets you into heaven, the killing and being martyred is the key. (It’s not the end, it’s the means that get you into heaven.)

In Islam, the key is to kill the translator of a novel that insults Islam. You don’t need to prevent more translations of the novel to get in heaven. (That’s just a bonus for Allah)

July 10 on May 13, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Is containment of radical Islam a realistic strategy? Maybe, if it’s rigorously enforced: Make threats against others for supposedly defaming your Prophet, and you are unceremoniously kicked out, if you’re an alien, or jailed if you’re a citizen.

The hard part is what to do with the radical mosques where the imans preach the violent overthrow of the Constitution. One hates to see new anti-sedition laws. But we could certainly stop the flow of Saudi money coming in to support the Islamists.

Then the Europeans have to take a very hard-nosed approach to the Muslims in their midst. At the first hint of trouble, deport them. Stop new immigration. And break up ethnic enclaves.

Internationally, we must resume the aggressive prosecution of the Global War on Islamic Terror that President Bush began. The best defense is a strong offense. And make it clear that regimes that tolerate Islamists will get no help from us, e.g. Egypt and the increasingly strong Moslem Brotherhood.

MrLynn on May 13, 2010 at 9:36 PM

There is no moderate islam. When the muslim population reaches a high enough number the demands begin.
A place in a public building for muslims only to pray or a foot bath in a University. A demand for Sharia law to be practiced in banks. (Texas is doing that now…yes…Texas.)
The demands never cease. In the UK, KFC has been forced to go halal in some areas…and now they demand that they all go halal. The demands never end until all things are muslim and allah is the only god. The koran demands it. The imams preach it. The religious police enforce it.
The only way to stop the slavery, the totalitarian beast that is islam is to kill it. It must die and the slaves of islam must be set free. Women are the key. They are kept as breeding machines to make more warriors for the cause. They cannot choose whom to marry. If they withhold sex, they are beaten or starved in to submission in accordance with the holy writing’s of islam. They are kept ignorant and enslaved. Witness the recent gas attack on 3rd grade girls in Afghanistan, the 3rd of its kind in less than a month. What brave men they are, attacking 8 year old girls to make allah happy. Their education is the key to the destruction of islam. That is why they are killed by their fathers and brothers for becoming too westernized, fraternizing with the enemy is forbidden. Make no mistake about it. If you value and defend freedom, liberty, you are the enemy. If you are free you are the enemy. Only the slaves of islam or those that submit are suffered to live.
A video may be found on Youtube in which the son of the founder of Hamas, who has converted to Christianity, explains quite clearly why there is no moderate islam.
Any muslim, anywhere, anytime can be struck by “sudden jihad syndrome”. The right imam bends his ear, shows him the light and BOOM!
Somethin’s wrong with a religion that rewards murder with unlimited sex in paradise. Jus’ doan seem right to me…

No islam…Know Peace.
Know islam…throw up!

Army Brat on May 13, 2010 at 11:38 PM