Quotes of the day
posted at 10:51 pm on May 11, 2010 by Allahpundit
Aasif Mandvi, a self-described “liberal Muslim” and the “senior Islamic correspondent” for Comedy Central’s The Daily Show, said on air after the “South Park” threats that it would upset him to see the Prophet Muhammad depicted in a cartoon. But, he added: “Here’s what’s more upsetting. Someone, in the name of a faith that I believe in, threatening another person for doing it.”
But after the failed Times Square terror attack, “The Daily Show” asked Mandvi not to comment further on the matter, according to his spokesman. In fact, reps for the networks and television shows reached for comment on this article, including Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, FOX, NBC, and CBS, either failed to respond or asked to speak on background for fear of retribution.
And it isn’t just comedians on fake newscasts who are being muzzled. One writer for a scripted drama fold Fox411.com that in one of his show’s final episodes, there had been a minor plot point involving a Muslim extremist. Last week it was removed and the script was rewritten, he said.
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But, in fact, we have no assurance that Muslim women put on the burqa or don the veil as a matter of their own choice. A huge amount of evidence goes the other way. Mothers, wives, and daughters have been threatened with acid in the face, or honor-killing, or vicious beating, if they do not adopt the humiliating outer clothing that is mandated by their menfolk. This is why, in many Muslim societies, such as Tunisia and Turkey, the shrouded look is illegal in government buildings, schools, and universities. Why should Europeans and Americans, seeking perhaps to accommodate Muslim immigrants, adopt the standard only of the most backward and primitive Muslim states? The burqa and the veil, surely, are the most aggressive sign of a refusal to integrate or accommodate. Even in Iran there is only a requirement for the covering of hair, and I defy anybody to find any authority in the Quran for the concealment of the face…
So it’s really quite simple. My right to see your face is the beginning of it, as is your right to see mine. Next but not least comes the right of women to show their faces, which easily trumps the right of their male relatives or their male imams to decide otherwise. The law must be decisively on the side of transparency. The French are striking a blow not just for liberty and equality and fraternity, but for sorority too.
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Horowitz: If you don’t condemn Hamas, obviously you support it. Case closed. I have had this experience at UC Santa Barbara, where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there. And throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hizbollah and Hamas. And none of them would. And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask a question. And I said, ‘Before you start, will you condemn Hizbollah?’ And he said, ‘Well, that question is too complicated for a yes or no answer.’ So I said, ‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way. I am a Jew. The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For or Against it?
MSA member: For it.
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Just a reminder: “Ad hominem” is Latin for, “I’m out of ideas.”
skydaddy on May 11, 2010 at 11:52 PM
I’m not opposed to banning immigration from certain few countries, except for those fleeing persecution by those countries. But it’s ridiculous to ban a Muslim who was born & raised in a sane nation & who has no ties to Islamofascism.
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:53 PM
Dude, I thought you were kidding until I looked it up on Google translator…
I am seriously confused….
Rightwingguy on May 11, 2010 at 11:53 PM
simply playing into their hands
AQ loves propaganda pieces.
blatantblue on May 11, 2010 at 11:54 PM
I am thankful all the time that I was born here and that my children will grow up here. We are far from perfect, but we still are the absolute best place there is. We have to stand up and prevent the left from destroying what makes us different and special
TXMomof3 on May 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM
But most Muslims don’t think like her. Are you aware that most Iranians are pro-American? There are multiplied millions of Muslims around the world who either like us, love us, or don’t know much of anything about us.
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:56 PM
The secret simply will not keep
For America is losing sleep
It’s time to break the spell
Who is Allen West and what is he up to, do tell?
Rumor has it he’s a cannoneer
He’s a reckless buccaneer
I hear he carries several guns with many clips
He’s the annihilator of Islam creeps with information on their lying at his fingertips
They say he’s nearly seven feet tall
And yet quite graceful…all in all
I’m told there are lightning bolts when he walks
And thunder when he talks
Is he vulgarian or sleek?
Just what does he seek?
I hear he’s steely as you please
I hear he’s really Japanese
He may be shrewd
He may be rude
Ah well, it’s hard to tell
Who is this Allen West, do tell?
The Muslims may think he comes from hell
Or maybe just from somewhere around the dell
But he will be here and he will be there
You could see him giving Islam Hell most any time and most anywhere
He meddles with the Islamic Devolution
Stomping them mightily throughout each week
Spoiling every Imam’s lying elocution
La, what cheek!
PercyB on May 11, 2010 at 11:56 PM
Oh… really? Even the peaceful Muslims from those countries? We’ve seen what happens to some Muslims that have been brought up in sane nations… they still join The Cause if they feel like they need an outlet for their lack of love or something. The sane approach would be to limit the number of Muslim immigrants.
As for Muslims that are being persecuted… uh, sometimes the persecuted Muslims aren’t so much better than the persecuting Muslims. Iraq would have many examples of this.
MeatHeadinCA on May 11, 2010 at 11:57 PM
Who sais kill them all?
Good Solid B-Plus on May 11, 2010 at 11:37 PM
thomasaur said it, Midas defended him, & canapfor thought it was funny.
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM
itsnotaboutme: Oh for the love of a duck,the President of
Iran calls daily for Israel to be gone!!
Yes,its a tad funny,but then I lost a
relative to an IED in Afghanistan,and
there wasn’t much left of him!
canopfor on May 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM
You’re a good kid but thinking that these barbarians can be reasoned with is foolish. AQ doesn’t need propaganda pieces the have Al-Jazeera and Al-New York Times.
thomasaur on May 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Most Muslims can’t help but think like her. Hatred of Jews is drilled in them from birth. Even many highly educated Westernized Muslims carry the same hate as the most backwater Hadji in some Waziri mud hut.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Alef is here just to get a rile out of people… It was kind of funny a while ago.
MeatHeadinCA on May 11, 2010 at 11:58 PM
Trying to digest this one… maybe I’ll just let it stand as is…
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:00 AM
I figured as much. Man, he’s subtle.
Rightwingguy on May 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM
Well, as long as the Peaceful Muslim Immigrants ignore the powerful Jewish Bankers in the US, they should fit in just fine! /sarc <— needed?
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:02 AM
Amen! Very well said! How are you doing tonight?
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:02 AM
Also keep an eye out for Karl Marx ;-)
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:02 AM
Maybe the persecuted Muslims should stand up and overthrow their oppressive governments. They should start eliminating the radicals in their midst. If the majority are good, they can overcome. We have seen it throughout history.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Yeesh. It’s easy to say something like
محمد اغتصاب الفتيات الصغيرات. وكان والده بقرة. كانت والدته خنزير
but you could really get into trouble if you say something like this:
القبض على الارهابيين ويستحم بها في الدم للخنازير قبل دفنها
That’s just too much.
KingGold on May 12, 2010 at 12:03 AM
But most Muslims don’t think like her. Are you aware that most Iranians are pro-American?
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:56 PM
itsnotaboutme: You mean,the MODERATES!!
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Do you feel all good about yourself now?
Good for you. With any luck, maybe they’ll kill you last.
hillbillyjim on May 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM
And that is the question. Are the majority good?
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Absolutely no complaints on my end. How are you?
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:05 AM
I have many missionary friends who have gone to Muslim nations with the Gospel. None of them have been murdered or tortured. Far from it, all of them–as far as I can remember–have been treated very well by the vast majority of their “hosts.” I have one friend who runs a very openly Christian children’s center within a hundred yards of a mosque, & the people have left him alone for 19 yrs because he cares for their kids in substantive ways.
Don’t tell me all Muslims are savages. Go tell someone who’ll believe it.
itsnotaboutme on May 12, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Try running it through http://www.tinyurl.com
MB4 on May 12, 2010 at 12:05 AM
WHERE ARE THESE MODERATE MUSLIMS????
Let me know, I’ll go search for them!
battleoflepanto1571 on May 12, 2010 at 12:06 AM
We need that on a t-shirt.
TexasDan on May 12, 2010 at 12:06 AM
Which Muslim nations? What, Turkey and Indonesia? Certainly not Saudi Arabia.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 12, 2010 at 12:08 AM
Doing fine! I’m just glad Allah finally had a QOTD that is drawing in the folks because last couple of nights were weak.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:08 AM
I’m not opposed to banning immigration from certain few countries,
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:53 PM
itsnotaboutme: Well,so far,Terrorist attacks have not been
committed by little ol’ English ladies,plot
ting America’s demise at church tea bazaars!
And,your MO has been immigration all along,
via the poor Muslims are only peaceful!!
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM
They’re not. I was one of those guys, for three years, and I’d go back in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself. But while your friends experience may be the most common, there are plenty of violent examples as well, and recent ones.
My experience is that while many muslims are peaceful (or disinterested), it doesn’t take all that much pressure from an extremist element to get them to flip.
TexasDan on May 12, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Beware the Allahwock, my heroic one!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Mohmoh bird, and shun
The frumious sirasnatch!
Colonel West took his vorpal sword in hand
Long time the Korxome foe he sought
So rested he by an old oak tree
And stood awhile in thought
And as in thought he stood
The Allahwock’s Mohmoh bird seeking to put the West to sword and flame
Came whiffling through the tugly wood
And burbled as it came!
One, two!
Red, White and Blue!
The Colonel’s vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left the Allahwock’s Mohmoh bird dead, and with its head
He went gallantphing back
Cheshire Cat on May 12, 2010 at 12:10 AM
Third attempt,stink’n filters!
canopfor on May 11, 2010 at 11:36 PM
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Try running it through http://www.tinyurl.com
MB4 on May 12, 2010 at 12:05 AM
MB4: Thats all I need,do you know how long it took me to
master cut/paste,and stop laughing,hehe!!:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM
I would never assume that the majority of any people were innately bad. Most people if shown the possibility of a good life for their families, will side with what is right.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Yes, but what if you were taught from birth that Jews were evil? And then, in a time of crisis, you are told by someone you trust or love that all your problems are caused by….the Jews! And you can strike back at them with an explosive vest!
What would you do?
Good Solid B-Plus on May 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM
None of them have been murdered or tortured. Far from it,
itsnotaboutme on May 12, 2010 at 12:05 AM
itsnotaboutme: You mean,NOT YET!
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM
Once school lets out and I don’t have to wake at an insane hour, I will be here more for QOTD. Some nights, like tonight, I just cannot resist. I used to have a unbelievable HA addiction.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM
How come a craven pupil is president and Mr. Horowitz is not?
Schadenfreude on May 12, 2010 at 12:16 AM
I hear you. QOTD can be very addicting!
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:17 AM
canopfor on May 11, 2010 at 11:40 PM
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The misspelling of that word can slide past with a little cleverness.
thomasaur on May 11, 2010 at 11:43 PM
thomasaur:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:18 AM
So, United Nations, that whole “Never Again!” thing….You were just kidding there, right?
29Victor on May 12, 2010 at 12:18 AM
That’s all the skills you need – cut/paste. Try it.
MB4 on May 12, 2010 at 12:19 AM
This might have something to do with it:
hillbillyjim on May 12, 2010 at 12:19 AM
It’s like the HA post earlier about knife attacks in China. Yes, they’re awful, & there are too many, but in a nation of more than a billion there are going to be wicked people.
9/11 & all of the other headline-grabbing events were perpetrated a by a relatively small number of Islamofascists.
I’m not denying that there are nations with heavy concentrations of wackos. But look at Iran, Indonesia, the Philippines, & many others. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims who love us, like us, or don’t know enough to care one way or another about us.
itsnotaboutme on May 12, 2010 at 12:21 AM
I cannot begin to explain what would make a parent teach their child to hate. I will never understand a mother having pride in their young son being a martyr. Children taught that hate will never doubt the right of it. I don’t have an answer for breaking the hatred for Jews in the Middle East. I am not even sure there is an answer. I know without a doubt, that even if the Palestinians were given land, there would be no end to the hatred.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:21 AM
Really ?
So what have they done to free the 3 Americans held hostage in Iran ?
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 12:23 AM
It’s not about most Muslims, it’s about protecting our nation from direct attacks and creeping Islamic Sharia. You got to get over this mindset that your views on non-discrimination holds a higher value then the destruction of our society.
lowandslow on May 12, 2010 at 12:24 AM
Maybe our ROE in Iraq and Asscrackistan should change to
“shoot women and children on sight, as long as they are Muslim”
blatantblue on May 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM
blatantblue:)
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the ridiculously restrictive ROE and our freaking kids getting blown completely off the roads there because of it has a lot of folks about completely worn out and ready to quit. We have a theater commander that didn’t want us to wear body armor, took away the ability to fire warning shots and necessitates taking to a dang JAG before any trigger is pulled and now the SECDEF wants freeze/reduce our pay and up our health care premium.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/08/pentagon-to-congress-stop-giving-troops-pay-increases/
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:24 AM
I don’t know if I would use the 9-11 example. The muslim nations were not exactly quick to comdemn those attacks. I fact some (NOT ALL) cheered in the street after it happened.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM
I believe we’re all born bad, if you will… Fortunately, I have Redemption.
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM
Two Novembers ago the voters were directed in the wrong direction and directly they went in the wrong direction and that is why we are now going in the direction we are going in. Or to put it more simply – the voters #ucked up royally.
Cheshire Cat on May 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM
From “Never Again” to “Eh, maybe.”
Good Solid B-Plus on May 12, 2010 at 12:28 AM
itsnotaboutme on May 11, 2010 at 11:56 PM
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Really ?
So what have they done to free the 3 Americans held hostage in Iran ?
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 12:23 AM
macncheez:Just in case itsnotaboutme doesn’t know about the
case,just try’n to help!:)
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Iran says mothers can visit 3 jailed Americans
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUarMRGfLCax53RhHap9iLIi11hAD9FK8E7O1
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:29 AM
The cheering after 9/11 was one of the sickest displays of human behavior that I have ever seen. I sat there broken hearted and crying about the families affected and I cannot imagine someone with a heart not being equally distraught.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:29 AM
I don’t know about savages, but they do tend to be prone to become irrationally aggressive … even the oh so peaceful Muslims I’ve met. The only Peaceful Muslims I’ve met were the ones that were born Muslim but live a completely secular, Western life… not real encouraging…
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:30 AM
The myth of the moderate muslim revealed. The koran has jew-hatred and bigotry hard-wired into it. For us infidels Mohammed says to slaughter them where you find them.
Mojave Mark on May 12, 2010 at 12:32 AM
Two Novembers ago the voters were directed in the wrong direction and directly they went in the wrong direction and that is why we are now going in the direction we are going in. Or to put it more simply – the voters #ucked up royally.
Cheshire Cat on May 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM
Cheshire Cat:!!!!!!!!! EXACTLY !!!!!!!:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:32 AM
That was tough to take. I will not ever forget that day.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Call me naive or idealistic, I believe people are born good and then corrupted. You cannot tell me that a child born there is destined for evil acts. Children are born innocent.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
So basically the Moderate Muslim is the “backsliding Muslim” if you will?
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Heres the irony of it all
2 hot chicks who work for AlGore’s propaganda TV get jailed in N. Korea => Bill Clinton hops on a plane to get them back
3 idiots from bezerkeley in Iranian jail => crickets
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Fortunately, I have a Remington.
My way is more reliable.
Tuco on May 12, 2010 at 12:34 AM
What do you think Clinton and the hot chicks did on the plane ride home? Play scrabble? :)
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:35 AM
يا أليف ، أليف ، لماذا أنت غامض؟
أنت مرة أخرى العمل في سحب ساقي؟
صور الكلمة العربية ، والبهجة خطيرة.
وهذا يمكن أن يكون ليلة رائعة ها!
Here’s hoping the fun is not lost in the translation.
LEBA on May 12, 2010 at 12:36 AM
Yes, I believe the child is born bad. I’m not alone in this belief. I believe we’re all fallen, but that’s just my belief.
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM
You always make me laugh.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM
;-)
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM
The cheering after 9/11 was one of the sickest displays of human behavior that I have ever seen. I sat there broken hearted and crying about the families affected and I cannot imagine someone with a heart not being equally distraught.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:29 AM
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That was tough to take. I will not ever forget that day.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
Dire Straits: Adding Insult to Injury!:)
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Great News: Huge Mosque Going Up Near WTC Site
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A proposal to build a mosque steps from Ground Zero received the support of a downtown committee despite some loved ones of 9/11 victims finding it offensive.
The 13-story mosque and Islamic cultural center was unanimously endorsed by the 12-member Community Board 1’s financial district committee.
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http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2010/05/great-news-huge-mosque-going-up-near.html
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM
Proper translation:
Aleph oh, Aleph, why are you vague?
Are you once again working at pulling my leg?
Arabic word pictures, a serious delight.
This could be a fantastic HA night!
LEBA on May 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM
Please hold your newborn child in your arms and get back to me on that. I say that with all due respect.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:40 AM
Yes I saw this. What makes me mad is that we have not built nothing back!:( We are still fighting over design, permits, ownership. We should have built them back the next year only 10 stories higher.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM
American voters, in a fit of felonious insanity, and aided and abetted by an inept old amnesty coot, brought forth, upon this Nation, a warped man, conceived who knows where for certain, who is dedicated to the proposition that all men are created subservient to his will and whim.
MB4 on May 12, 2010 at 12:42 AM
BillyC checked if any of them wore metal braces
and then he took them for a grand tour
of his ‘legacy’
;-)
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 12:42 AM
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:29 AM
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Heres the irony of it all
2 hot chicks who work for AlGore’s propaganda TV get jailed in N. Korea => Bill Clinton hops on a plane to get them back
3 idiots from bezerkeley in Iranian jail => crickets
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 12:33 AM
mancheez: Maybe Bubba wnated to get away from Cankles for a
bit!!————-,but ya,no kidding!!:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:43 AM
There is no excuse for the delay.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:43 AM
I liked that one.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Why? Is that going to somehow change my Christian beliefs? Most (many?) Christians hold this view and still love their children.
My understanding is that philosophically speaking, most Conservatives also believe in some version of a Fallen Man or Original Sin.
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:45 AM
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM
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Yes I saw this. What makes me mad is that we have not built nothing back!:( We are still fighting over design, permits, ownership. We should have built them back the next year only 10 stories higher.
Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Dire Straits: Madness,truly is!:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:46 AM
I see him as a high seas pirate!
Or maybe he is trying to cause a riot?
A gypsy mopping sweat upon his brow?
Might it be this gypsy of yours stands before you now?
It could be him!
It could be you!
Odd’s fish, it could be me!
That scalawag could be most any sod
PercyB on May 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM
Do you have to teach a baby to be self-centered? Do you have to teach a toddler to steal cookies? Do you have to teach a 1st-grader to lie? Or a tween to gossip?
Human nature is sinful. Kids need parents to civilize them. If they don’t, we need governments to corral them.
itsnotaboutme on May 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM
Do me a favor:
Click on this (it’s a map of world religions)
http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/ciai/socst/grade3/geoimages/Image12.gif
Notice all the pretty colors. Lots of different colors, with different religions, and different major sects of religions, all around the world.
Lots of borders of different colors, wouldn’t you say? I mean, there must be hundreds of different borders/lines/combinations, right?
Now, let’s focus in on the green area — Islam. Let’s take a world trip around the BORDER of islam.
West Africa? Armed uprisings. Massive attempts at imposing sharia
Nigeria? the north of the country is in a de facto war with the Christian south. riots and church burnings in the middle of the country.
Chad? darfur spillover
Sudan? not much here, only, oh, um, a 30 year civil war that killed 4 million and continued practice of taking black christians as actual slaves
Ethiopia? militant muslim minority
Somalia? sharia hell. been at war with a half-dozen neighbors in the last 3 years alone.
Tired yet? Let’s move up to Europe quickly!
Bosnia? ’nuff said
Kosovars in Albania or Kosovo? warring until we sent troops there
Turkey and Greece? Turkey and Armenia? “pay no attention to those mass graves….”
the Muslim Caucasus? Chechnya? Dagestan? Inguisheta? crap, just google “beslan school” for some of their handywork. crap, check google news TODAY on bombings.
Muslims in Central Asia? Uzbeks and Tajiks? ever hear of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan? Bush named them specifically in his speech the week after 9/11. And the Uzbeks thank us to this day.
Western China? bomb-throwing Uighurs
India-Pakistan? Jammu, Kashmir, etc…. bullets fly back and forth almost daily, as both govts try to keep it a ‘low level fight’
Not done yet!
SE Asia: Southern Thailand? massive muslim insurgency in the skinny part.
Philippines? just stay out of the south, they’ve been killing Christians (amereican missionaries included) for a decade or more.
East Timor? the slaughter of them by indonesian muslims was so bad the UN stepped in and gave them independence
and of course, how could we forget…
ISRAEL? enemies on all sides, fences and walls are necessary just to insure they can eat at a cafe without getting blown up.
And don’t get me started on the inter-islam borders, the Shia-SUnni slaughters, the “youre doing it the wrong way, you Kurds!” death-fests…
You see, the problem isn’t whether “some Muslims are nice to me” or “some Muslims like bin Laden”
The problem is that ISLAM ITSELF is INCOMPATIBLE with the REST OF THE WORLD>
It’s the only religion that refuses to play well with others.
Try it out.
Do the same ething i just did for any other faith, or sect.
Try it.
Draw a line around them and tell me where you see mass violence, or carnage, or instability. Let me know when you find masses of Protestants in Brownsville, Texas slaughtering “Papists” in Matomoros, Mexico.
The PRoblem is ISLAM.
It’s ideology = violence and military conquest.
Nothing more.
ITS.
IN.
THE.
KORAN.
(yknow… the book written by that MILITARY GENERAL muhammed, the guy that CONQUERED A PENINSULA with an ARMY? and set up a ‘muslim government’?)
Look to the source. Islam = Violence. TRUTH!
battleoflepanto1571 on May 12, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Aleph is mad. You’re mad. I’m mad. We are all mad or else we wouldn’t be here.
Cheshire Cat on May 12, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Folks, let’s be serious…there is no such thing as a rational muslim. If a person truly follows the teachings of the mass murdering mohammed, they’re just crazy or evil or both. You can’t say most muslims don’t think like this. If they didn’t, they’d be sickened by the founder of their political ideology of death disguised as a religion.
If a serial killer started a religion tomorrow, we’d call his followers evil. If a serial killer starts a religion in the 7th century, we call his followers muslims. And we’re told that not all of them are bad and that we are to embrace their views as legit.
No way.
TheBlueSite on May 12, 2010 at 12:52 AM
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM
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Dire Straits on May 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM
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There is no excuse for the delay.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:43 AM
TXMomof3: You absolutely right,I have a copy of Time
magazines,9/11 with the impact on the front
cover,and all the graphic images inside:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:52 AM
I have never seen a child that hated or had racist beliefs that had not had those beliefs modeled by an adult. Children are born blank slates and if raised in a loving, supportive, tolerant home, will go out in the world and model those behaviors. There is something to be said for free will and the proverbial bad seed, as exceptions. Most of the time, I can look at a child and tell you about their parents.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:52 AM
Sure, their parents influence their lives; however, all children have done bad things. All adults have done bad things. These bad things were done because a choice was made, but where did that bit of evil come from? I’m sticking with Paul on this one.
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:55 AM
You are using examples of infantile behavior as your basis for sinful behavior?
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Okay,it almost sleepcity time,good night everyone,sweet dreams:)
canopfor on May 12, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Yes, he/she is. Sin is sin…
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:57 AM
I forgot the Arabic for good night, so I’ll simply wish you a good night in English ;-)
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 12:58 AM
I knoiw that it may seem crude and unseemly but, Mchiavelli who was somewhat prescient on matters of insurrection, infiltraion and the art of maintaining one’s political space was quite clear on the only effective manner of dealing with seditous elements seeking to establish the reign of a new government, or Ummah if you will.
We the west after the enlightenment, thought such measures were no longer needed as we in the west had moved beyond the necesities of such draconian measures. But he was dealing with a medieval mindset that in his times where no other measures were adequate to deal with. In the barbarity of the times (1469-1527)confronting enemies of his age, lesser measures simply would not do.
We are dealing with a mindset of an of even less refined philosophy (570-622) where possibly Machiavelli’s harsh finality in dealing with enemies may well fall short of effectiveness, indeed failure to adopy the needed dedication carry out inhumane measures to meet squarely on the field the resolve and commitment of the Islamic hordes led to the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
As distasteful and contrary to modern western priciples as as it may be, until we reconize what its going to take to maintain our survival and implement, we cede the field to the enemy who is committed to more drastic measures than we can stomach. Like Walter E. Kurtz, to be effective on assuring the continuation of the western construct, we will have to embrace the brutality of our enemies lest we perish.
If we the west are to survive, as much as I wish it weren’t sso, I beleive Machiavelli’s mindset and tactics are all that will save us from thye fate that is Islamofacisim.
Archimedes on May 12, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Cheshire Cat on May 12, 2010 at 12:50 AM
Aiy, me mate’s, mad, yes mad!
LEBA on May 12, 2010 at 1:00 AM
Damn typos, sorry folks. Glenfiddich is nearly empty and rearing its head in the form of my typing acumen.
Archimedes on May 12, 2010 at 1:00 AM
After watching the video again the stupidity of the MSA representative unfolds like layers. Besides admitting it would be easier to destroy all the Jews if they all were in Israel, she really thought she was going to get Horowitz by proving there is no connection between jihadists and the MSA because Horowitz couldn’t produce a canceled check from Hamas or Al-Qaeda written out to them or something. That was her grand strategy. They probably had meetings going over it, telling themselves they were really going to show that Jew bastard. I mean that’s taking stupid to a whole new level.
lowandslow on May 12, 2010 at 1:01 AM
I was with a group of UC Berk ppl a few days ago and I asked them what their MSA @ UC-B was doing to free those 3 hostages in Iran since they are on the forefront of telling us about the persecution of innocent muslims in USA?
They looked at me like they had seen a ghost or something..they muttered some drivel and then pretented they all had somewhere to go
macncheez on May 12, 2010 at 1:02 AM
chemman on May 12, 2010 at 1:02 AM
When I tried using google to translate it, it came out as this:
My pet, pet, why are you mysterious?
You are once again the work to pull my leg?
Images Arabic word, a delight serious.
This can be a wonderful night ha!
…=/
Emily M. on May 12, 2010 at 1:03 AM
How we treat others says a lot about who we are as a person.
TXMomof3 on May 12, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Funny how that works…
MeatHeadinCA on May 12, 2010 at 1:05 AM
WOW! Ok, I’m signing off. That last comment, while intellectually sound, was borderline indecipherable. I’ll spare y’all any more of my ravings till tommorow.
G’nite all!
Archimedes on May 12, 2010 at 1:05 AM
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