Obama administration reverses itself on Times Square bombing conspiracy

posted at 10:12 am on May 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The Washington Post calls Eric Holder’s admission that the Pakistani Taliban plotted the Times Square bombing a “sharp escalation,” but it’s more like a U-turn.  Initially, as the Post notes, the White House tried claiming that Faisal Shahzad had acted alone and that the Taliban claim of responsibility was hogwash.  That U-turn hasn’t kept the White House from pushing its other favored response, that the system supposedly worked:

Senior Obama administration officials on Sunday blamed the Pakistani Taliban for the attempted car bombing in Times Square, saying in the most definitive terms to date that the militant group was responsible for planning and financing the botched attack.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said investigators had “developed evidence that shows the Pakistani Taliban was behind the attack,” a sharp escalation from the initial assessment that Faisal Shahzad had acted alone and without sophisticated training. Holder’s remarks, coupled with similar statements by other senior U.S. officials over the weekend, highlighted the emerging role of an al-Qaeda-affiliated group that appears to have only recently moved to follow through on its ambition, expressed for years, of striking inside the United States. …

John O. Brennan, the top counterterrorism adviser at the White House, said the administration is “taking very seriously” the threat posed by the Tehrik-e-Taliban, or TTP, calling it a “very determined enemy.” But Brennan suggested the many errors in the execution of the Times Square plot on May 1 also illustrate that the administration’s existing counterterrorism strategy — which hinges on striking targets abroad using Predator drone aircraft — is working.

“Because of our success in degrading the capabilities of these terrorist groups overseas, preventing them from carrying out these attacks, they are now relegated to trying to do these unsophisticated attacks, showing that they have inept capabilities in training,” Brennan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

In the first place, an “escalation” is an increase in direction or scope.  That’s not what Holder did yesterday.   He and the Obama administration changed directions, thanks to an avalanche of evidence that Shahzad had traveled to Pakistan for five months, trained with the Taliban, and suddenly had a lot of cash to spend on his return in February.  The White House wanted to spin the attack right away as one conducted by a one-off lone wolf, which would not prompt the kind of questions the Obama administration wants to avoid at the moment.

That brings us to Brennan’s laughable statement, that the system worked because Shahzad’s an idiot.  That’s not exactly the full expectation of counterterrorism.  We have had three attacks now in six months, two of which failed only because of dumb luck and poor design.  The goal of counterterrorism is to stop plots before they get to the point of exploding in mid-air or Times Square.  It’s nice to be lucky, but it’s better to be good, and eventually our luck will run out.  The next time the Taliban park a car in Manhattan, we might be unlucky, so instead of patting ourselves on the back over Shahzad’s incompetence, maybe we need to focus on stopping the next Shahzad before he parks that car.

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

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You mean it was not bitter clingers shooting off fireworks?

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Wet finger. Wind. Feel the tingle.

Fletch54 on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

There are Islamic terrorists who really want to hurt us? Really? In New York of all places?

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

When you rely on your enemy’s stupidity to win, there is something seriously wrong.

Holger on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

Fat chance of that happening.

Phil-351 on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Crazy.

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

But… but.. Chuck U. Schumer said was a LONE WOLF.

Enoxo on May 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM

It is like watching 24, except Jack Bauer likes to sit on the couch, drink beer, and catch up on the Office and 30 Rock.

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Jack Bauer as McGruder.

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Holder’s remarks, coupled with similar statements by other senior U.S. officials over the weekend, highlighted the emerging role of an al-Qaeda-affiliated group that appears to have only recently moved to follow through on its ambition, expressed for years, of striking inside the United States.

What a load of BS. They’ve been trying all along. The only difference now is the infection of PC in our counterintelligence.

Patrick S on May 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Jack Bauer with a Miranda fetish.

Fletch54 on May 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM

I bet,this was a Extreme RightWing Moderate Tal ee bony
Jihady,

jus sayin!!!

canopfor on May 10, 2010 at 10:20 AM

I wish this country could do a big U turn and go back to the November 08 elections.

search4truth on May 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM

I plan of having a Great Summer – unfortunately – it probably will not workout as planned if the fireworks start before the Fourth of July.

wheels on May 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM

What do you want to bet there’s a Presidential Daily brief floating around with the title “Pakistani Taliban Seeks To Strike U.S.”?

rockmom on May 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

Poor Ed… You have obviously slipped on the soap in the shower and bumped your head…. Someone call Ed an ambulance he’s acting all delusional….

doriangrey on May 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM

When you rely on your enemy’s stupidity to win, there is something seriously wrong.

Holger on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

That’s Al Qaeda’s strategy and it’s working out for them pretty well.

NoDonkey on May 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Capt’n Ed I think this might be the video!!!
===================================================

Interview With Eric Holder Attorney General Eric Holder sits down with ABC’s Jake Tapper on “This Week.”

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/interview-eric-holder-10596851

canopfor on May 10, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Wait, I thought this guy was one of the evil tea partiers who’s upset over foreclosure and hates ObamaCare, which is the single most important thing to ever happen in the universe, aside from Dear Liar’s actual birth.

rbj on May 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Maybe they’d care more if Al Q decided to attack Haiti? They seem fully convinced that the full force and power of the US government should engage to protect those folks.

funky chicken on May 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM

“Because of our success in degrading the capabilities of these terrorist groups overseas, preventing them from carrying out these attacks, they are now relegated to trying to do these unsophisticated attacks, showing that they have inept capabilities in training,” Brennan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Translation: We’re doing a good job because they haven’t blown up the whole city of New York yet.

Daggett on May 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM

He returned from PockEstahn with a lot of cash? Why wasn’t he more responsible then and make his mortgage payment or use some of that money for retraining so he could get another job? Or, maybe he was a Muslim terrorist who had a plan all along to try and kill Americans on Times Sq.

Kissmygrits on May 10, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Ed, the Msm will prop up this administration til the end of their reign. News schmews to this Msm if it hurts dear leader

cmsinaz on May 10, 2010 at 10:31 AM

rockmom–goodness, I certainly hope so. I mean, I could have written that a couple of years ago once we started to give the Pakistani extremists more of our special attention, and I’ve never been anywhere close to Pakistan. Of course they want to have a successful attack inside the US.

I get your point, of course, that the media won’t have a field day if/when somebody gets a copy of the thing into their hands.

funky chicken on May 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM

B+

I lament that it’s only a matter of time before the terrorists are successful. Even then, the O Team will have an excuse and scheme to make themselves look competent.

conservative pilgrim on May 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM

This is Smart Power? We got lucky that the EunuchBomber and Faisal failed.

kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Wait, I thought this guy was one of the evil tea partiers who’s upset over foreclosure and hates ObamaCare, which is the single most important thing to ever happen in the universe, aside from Dear Liar’s actual birth.

rbj on May 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM

That was the idea being presented by our local LLL news channel here in CT on Friday night. Seems his default is what drove him over the edge and that it would not have happened if he could have kept his house.

No matter what, sooner or later one of these guys is going to be successful and people are going to be killed.

Johnnyreb on May 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM

I hate to even think in this manner, but…..Just wait until a high ranking American “official” becomes the successful target.

You’re walking into a buzz-saw, Mr. President, and we can’t stop it because you don’t have enough common sense to come in out of the rain.

GoldenEagle4444 on May 10, 2010 at 10:36 AM

If by the system working they mean two NYC street vendors and one mounted NYPD cop being alert and knowing what to do, then the system worked.If they mean the nation’s mega billion dollar system to protect the us from terrorist acts, that’s a horse of a different color.

xkaydet65 on May 10, 2010 at 10:36 AM

He says the system worked because he is thinking about terrorism from a law enforcement perspective – bad guy breaks law, bad guy quickly caught. I’d like to know whether, had the bomb detonated killing scores or hundreds and Shazhad been caught in the same amount of time, they would be saying “the system worked”.

ProfessorMiao on May 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM

I’m stickin’ with… Obama’s chickens coming home to roost.

mankai on May 10, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Let’s not forget we’re not the only ones analyzing the aftermath of this and other attacks/attempts.

The Taliban/al Qaeda are evaluating things just like we are. Even with their own incompetence, they will figure out ways to ultimately make things work.

I believe you make your own luck. So far, we ain’t.

catmman on May 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Two (2) attempts at detonating bombs fail and the administration says the system worked. Only lemmings with single digit IQs could possibly be deceived by a lie so obvious. If the third bomb goes off, killing 1000s of Americans, Obuma perception of reality is going to change beyond his comprehension. If being intelligent and naive is the very same as being stupid and incompetent, there is no difference. Being naive is going to get people killed.

volsense on May 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM

2001: Afghan AQ attacks US – Bush responds.

2010: Paki Taliban attacks US – Obama golfs.

faraway on May 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Even Shep was aghast at the Adminstration saying that those civilians “saved” Times Square after the car bomb already went off and failed to work. Nobody is buying what they are trying to sell.

kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Was it … Dana Perino (?) who was aghast that the White House would come out and say he acted alone, when they had no way of knowing that? It’s proper to be aghast at that.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Johnnyreb–they keep forgetting that he quit the job and quit making house payments at the same time he voluntarily moved himself and his family to Pakistan.

He didn’t lose anything … he purposely abandoned everything he had.

funky chicken on May 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Bottom line here folks; terrorists are here, in our country and planning the death of as many citizens as possible. With our financial markets melting, a terrorist attack would drive a stake further through the heart of America.

We have an administration that won’t even call these acts of terror what they are. We have a media that refused to call these acts what they are. In fact, the media tried very hard to convince us that this guy acted solo, and was nothing other than an idiot. Completely falling in their faces as far as doing the job they were created to do.

We are in deep do-do and we the people must bring about solutions on our own, as our government is buried in the problem rather than the solution.

Keemo on May 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Sooner, rather than later we will be eating the shrapnel of their failure.

Or should I say, Our failure for running McCain and failing to prevent the election of President Obama.

barnone on May 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.
//
Don’t bet on it!

ohiobabe on May 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM

The bomb did not work but the System failed.
That is the bottom line. Lets stop fooling ourselves.
The only success here was that incompetency has predictable
results.

old trooper2 on May 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM

My home has dropped through the floor in value, having dropped some 30% in the last 12 months. How many people will be forced to walk away from their mortgage for this reason.

Deep do-do….

Keemo on May 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM

So if he had bought the right fertilizer, added a little fuel oil, and opened the propane tank valves, it might have worked? Heck, *I* coulda made those adjustments. He did the tough part right. He did 99% of it.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM

This is Smart Power? We got lucky that the EunuchBomber and Faisal failed.
kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Smart power is not in the cards, I made a Photoshop that explains why (end of article). http://sparks.brushfireoffreedom.org/post/2010/05/10/Obama-is-Not-That-Bright.aspx

Obama is not that bright. ;)

Irritable Pundit on May 10, 2010 at 10:49 AM

We must build a mosque near ground Zero to show our good faith to poor Muslims.

Otherwise we are only encouraging more Islamic terrorists to bomb NYC.

Maybe two mosques?

Or just one really big one right on Ground Zero?

Don’t forget 19 extremely religious Muslims died on 9/11, too!

Maybe somebody should do something about this mosque?

profitsbeard on May 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM

I am sure that I heard that he opposed the healthcare plan.

mobydutch on May 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Holder is, of course, a complete imbecile. GOP Senators who voted to confirm this imbecile as Attorney General in a United States at war:

Murkowski
Kyl
Sessions
McLame
Chambliss
Isaakson
Lugie
Grassley
Collins
Snowe
Bond
Gregg
Whinyb*tch
Grahamnesty
Alexander
Bennett
Hatch

Mitigating their asinine votes in support of this pathetic clown is the fact that Bush’s Attorney Generals do not do much to emphasize the importance of the position.

Jaibones on May 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Holder’s remarks, coupled with similar statements by other senior U.S. officials over the weekend, highlighted the emerging role of an al-Qaeda-affiliated group that appears to have only recently moved to follow through on its ambition, expressed for years, of striking inside the United States.

It’s as if they sense a weakness that wasn’t there before.

Naw… that’s just crazy talk.

Lily on May 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

“That U-turn hasn’t kept the White House from pushing its other favored response, that the system supposedly worked”

It’s the salt in restaurant food.

Bloomberg for Mayor of DC!

Dusty on May 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

I hate to even think in this manner, but…..Just wait until a high ranking American “official” becomes the successful target. You’re walking into a buzz-saw, Mr. President, and we can’t stop it because you don’t have enough common sense to come in out of the rain.
GoldenEagle4444 on May 10, 2010 at 10:36 AM

In the last year of WW2, the Allies stopped all attempts to assassinate Adolph Hitler — because we realized he had become the Allies’ most valuable asset.

Whether it’s incompetence or complicity doesn’t really matter; if it works, it works.

logis on May 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Obama is still reading My Pet Goat.

faraway on May 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

I’m not feeling all that safe with these morons at the helm.

These are the same dimwits who want to treat terrorist attacks as a law enforcement matter, well here ya go, they are.

Bishop on May 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM

We must build a mosque near ground Zero to show our good faith to poor Muslims.

profitsbeard on May 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Yikes. The cynic in me just got a reason NYC approved that 13 story mosque to be built on Ground Zero. As an aside, I heard this “man on the street” interview of a Muslim in NYC a day or two after 9/11:

Reporter: You’re Muslim. What’s your view of this incident?
Muslim: Those people who flew planes into these buildings, they were crazy!
Reporter: They were crazy?
Muslim: Yes! There could have been Muslims in those buildings!

True story.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM

When you rely on your enemy’s stupidity to win, there is something seriously wrong.

Holger

Then it just becomes a battle to see which is more stupid.

Redteam on May 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. overheard in shower room:

“As soon as the Taliban discovers fire and learns how to melt steel we are in deep sh*t.”

Yoop on May 10, 2010 at 10:56 AM

The Secretary of Homeland Security Bull Dyke’s own State is shutting down it’s blindingly stupid speeding cameras.

The country is safer how with Napalitano at the helm?

SeniorD on May 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

And maybe monkeys can actually fly out of my ass. Fat freaking chance.

gryphon202 on May 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM

I’m stickin’ with… Obama’s chickens coming home to roost.

mankai on May 10, 2010 at 10:40 AM

mankai: Funny you mentioned that,I have a book of John
Kennedys funeral called,The torch is passed…
and in it,Malcolm X,chief of the Black Muslim
movement in New York,chortled,’chickens coming
home to roost never did make me sad;they’ve al
ways made me glad’.Its on page #54.

I nearly died when I read that,and their must be
something to that saying as Rev.Wright sad it!!:)

canopfor on May 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM


..The Obama administration is wholly dependent on the uniformed and ignorant.

Any thinking person who reads past a headline or informs themselves beyond the Katie Couric sound bites knows this administration is nothing but socialist activists totally dependent on the MSM to cover up their corrupt and failed policies.

Baxter Greene on May 10, 2010 at 11:02 AM

Ugh,should be there,not their,and said,not sad!

canopfor on May 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM

This is like watching a Chinese fire drill develop right before your eyes!

This so-called Administration has to be the most imcompetent bunch of bumbling stumbling boobs ever gathered under one roof!

No wonder our enemies are being empowered, especially when they see certified stupidity like this!

pilamaye on May 10, 2010 at 11:08 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

If they had reported the facts to begin with, we would be listening to President McCain right now.

Del Dolemonte on May 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM

What about the comments made by General Petraus? I am confused.

mobydutch on May 10, 2010 at 11:13 AM

didnt Petraeus say it was not the Taliban too- did he mean it was not the Afghan Taliban? he said there was not chatter ion the stream or something? I hope Team O has Gen P in the loop on Pockeeestahhn

ginaswo on May 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Gen. David Petraeus told The Associated Press that Shahzad apparently operated as a “lone wolf.”

kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Cue Orwell: “There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent there will be no need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.”

MayorDaley on May 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM

If they had reported the facts to begin with, we would be listening to President McCain right now.

Del Dolemonte on May 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Del, I like you…

But enough of the moral equivalency bull. The Republicans can run in 2012 on “we’re not Obama,” and rightfully so. Somehow I don’t think McCain would have been given to quite the level of graft, bribery, and outright fascism that we’re experiencing now.

gryphon202 on May 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Poor Ed… You have obviously slipped on the soap in the shower and bumped your head…. Someone call Ed an ambulance he’s acting all delusional….

doriangrey on May 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Perhaps Ed was spooked when he saw Rahm standing behind him.

txag92 on May 10, 2010 at 11:25 AM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

They can’t. They have invested too much effort, and spent too much time propping up this administration.

stevezilla on May 10, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Perhaps the apologies aren’t sincere enough, the bows not deep enough.

greggriffith on May 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM

We blame Boooooooooooosh__________Every troll at HA…

SHARPTOOTH on May 10, 2010 at 11:42 AM

John O. Brennan, the top counterterrorism adviser at the White House, said the administration is “taking very seriously” the threat posed by the Tehrik-e-Taliban, or TTP, calling it a “very determined enemy.”

Ok I understand now. That right there is the source of all the misunderstandings by our beloved leader “The Won”. He mistook TTP to mean The Tea Party and just intuited that it was an old gray haired white guy, probably a Presbyterian. It’s all understandable now and that guy Brennan is the author of all the bad information. He should be thrown under the bus. They’re not reversing direction they’re correcting disinformation put out by disloyal untrustworthy minions. Hey, that guy Brennan has got gray hair.

Oldnuke on May 10, 2010 at 11:44 AM

1st off, you can’t stop an attack such as this. McVeigh proved that.As long as you make it a sin to profile you won’t stand a chance.The system worked in as much as they caught the guy. The system sometimes works for bank robbery and drug dealing. sometimes.
Sorry to all you Muslims out there, because as it should, one day the pendulum is going to swing the other way.Beware and be prepared.

BruceB on May 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Hey! Let’s put terrorists on trail in NYC! What could happen?

GarandFan on May 10, 2010 at 12:02 PM

We expect the White House to say whatever they feel like at the moment. But I still don’t get the Petraeus statement. What’s up with that?

dont taze me bro on May 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM

The saddest part it that Petraeus claimed the same stupidity.

Schadenfreude on May 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Keemo on May 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Yes the terrorists are here and far too many have come over the southern border. We are certainly in deep doo doo and it is only a matter of time before a successful attack occurs.

chemman on May 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM

The administation and Petraeus, too, btw, all jumped the gun.

Shame on all.

AnninCA on May 10, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Hey, I just saw their new Army training manual addendum.

They’re canceling body armor, improved weaponry, intel, radar, and air support. The new tactical plan is “hope the other side can’t shoot straight”. It’s genius I tell you.

What? if this is their counterterrorism plan (hope the other side can’t make good bombs) what makes you think their military plan will be more intelligent?

gekkobear on May 10, 2010 at 12:25 PM

mobydutch on May 10, 2010 at 11:13 AM

ginaswo on May 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM

kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 11:17 AM

dont taze me bro on May 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Schadenfreude on May 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM

We still don’t know what Petraeus actually meant when he allegedly said what he was quoted as saying, because the “interview” he did with al-AP where he supposedly called the guy a “lone wolf” is nowhere to be found-I have now been searching for it for 4 days.

The fact that so many of you are still citing it as “fact” shows that al-AP has succeeded in implanting it in the national debate. But until someone posts the entire interview, don’t quote a cherry picked sound bite as proof of what the General actually said.

Del Dolemonte on May 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM

1st off, you can’t stop an attack such as this.

BruceB on May 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM

You can try, maybe you’ll have the LAX millennium bomber who we caught due to increased intel. Wasn’t that stopping at attack such as this? You know, caught him before he set off his bomb trying to kill lots of people in a crowded area?

I can see saying “We’re doing what we can to prevent these situations; following up whatever leads we get, and this one just got through”… that’s a rational position.

But “This is how our plan is supposed to be working” when we let someone design, build, deliver, and detonate a bomb? Not persuasive.

Although you might not be able to stop an attack like this 100% of the time… is that a reason to not try to stop it? Or to claim trying to stop it isn’t worthwhile?

gekkobear on May 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Del, I like you…

But enough of the moral equivalency bull. The Republicans can run in 2012 on “we’re not Obama,” and rightfully so. Somehow I don’t think McCain would have been given to quite the level of graft, bribery, and outright fascism that we’re experiencing now.

gryphon202 on May 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM

LOL, no moral equivalency was intended on my part-in fact I could have just as easily said this:

If they had reported the facts to begin with, we would be listening to President Hillary Clinton right now.

My only point was to state that if the press had done their job, O’bama would have been rejected by the voters.

Del Dolemonte on May 10, 2010 at 12:30 PM

AnninCA on May 10, 2010 at 12:24 PM

See my 12:28 post. We still don’t know if Petraeus actually said what he was quoted as saying, as the “interview” hasn’t been found. Only the “sound bite” where he said “lone wolf”.

Del Dolemonte on May 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Here’s the original AP story on the General, Del. I was quoting from the Daily Caller.

kingsjester on May 10, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM

It wasn’t a sophisticated device, but despite its flaws of design and errors in deployment it came within a hair’s breadth of killing and injuring scores of people. The destructive energy represented by the propane and the gasoline alone was substantial.

The politically effort to downplay the seriousness of this attack could get people killed down the road.

novaculus on May 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

Really Ed I can’t believe you believe this. The media is one of the domestic enemies we need to be defending ourselves against. This entity and many within it are evil and their agenda is to tear this republic down. Most do not believe in God, our founding principles or our exceptionalism in the world as generally a force for good and humanitarian well-being.

wepeople on May 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM

It’s nice to be lucky, but it’s better to be good, and eventually our luck will run out. The next time the Taliban park a car in Manhattan, we might be unlucky, so instead of patting ourselves on the back over Shahzad’s incompetence, maybe we need to focus on stopping the next Shahzad before he parks that car.

And maybe our national news media can actually report on the facts rather than spinning for the administration, too.

I concur. Imagine the dive the stock market will take that day when they get lucky….people forget everything is tied together, and this economy isn’t what I would call “bullet proof”

Get rid of Napolitano she does not inspire confidence.

Dr Evil on May 10, 2010 at 1:41 PM

The only way I could agree with the W.H. about how the system worked was if Faisal Shahzad went to public school here in the U.S. Because he sure was stupid.

multiuseless on May 10, 2010 at 1:48 PM

So if he had bought the right fertilizer, added a little fuel oil, and opened the propane tank valves, it might have worked?

Nope, it still wouldn’t have worked. ANFO is not cap sensitive – detonate a blasting cap in it and the prills will just fly around. In order for it to shoot it must be primed with high-explosive and primer cord. This guy was hopeless.

lonesomecharlie on May 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM

novaculus on May 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Should read “The politically motivated effort to downplay the seriousness of this attack could get people killed down the road.

novaculus on May 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM

There are Islamic terrorists who really want to hurt us? Really? In New York of all places?

Mr. Joe on May 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

“You guys want to hurt us? But we’re New Yorkers… we’re the tolerant ones, remember, the ones who want to help your families move here as fast as possible and spread your tolerant religion on our soil… all the racist teab-ggers, all the ones you hate, are over there(gestures at middle America)

RD on May 10, 2010 at 3:26 PM


Initially, as the Post notes, the White House tried claiming that Faisal Shahzad had acted alone and that the Taliban claim of responsibility was hogwash

Initially it was a “40ish white right wing racist teabanging militia guy”.

Then it was a “40ish white right wing racist teabanging guy”.
Then it was a “40ish white right wing teabanging guy”.
Then it was a “40ish white teabanging guy”.
Then it was a “40ish teabanging guy”.
Then it was a “teabanging guy”.

Then it was Faisal Shahzad along with the Pakistani Taliban.
Then it was Faisal Shahzad along with the Taliban.
Then it was Faisal Shahzad alone.
Then it was Faisal Shahzad along with the Taliban.
Then it was Faisal Shahzad along with the Pakistani Taliban.

BTW, anyone know what a credibility problem might look like?

DSchoen on May 10, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Or if you took the gasoline out of the DOT 3 approved containers and put it in, say, glass jars, and say, wrapped those M-88 firecrackers in say, wax and BB’s and say put those M-88 firecrackers tween those gasoline filled glass jars, and, say, rigged it so that the M-88 firecrackers went bang, shattering the glass jars fallowed by, say, a second series of M-88 firecrackers to go bang a couple of sec later (long enough for gas fumes to fill the car) to spark off the gasoline fumes then there would have been………..

Naw that wouldn’t work.

The system worked!

DSchoen on May 10, 2010 at 5:03 PM

As long as you have “moderate” Muslim sheep among you, you will also have wolves in sheeps clothing among them. There is no other reality. Maybe you will become like India and get used to it.

BL@KBIRD on May 10, 2010 at 5:54 PM