Report: Houston student suspended for taking down Mexican flag
posted at 11:36 am on May 7, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
I have received a ton of e-mail asking me to follow up yesterday’s article about the suspension of students at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, California with another story of a student suspension in Houston, Texas. In the first instance, students were suspended for refusing to remove clothing with American-flag themes on Cinco de Mayo, an obvious violation of their civil rights and a ridiculous request regardless. In the Houston story, as reported by KTRH’s Michael Berry and linked at one point by Drudge, the circumstances are quite different — and somewhat misleading:
Yesterday, a listener’s son was offended that his school, Klein Collins High School, displayed the Mexican flag prominently. His mother called to complain, and the school wouldn’t return her call. The student took the sign down.
The school pitched a fit, reviewed the surveillance tapes, found the student, and suspended him for 3 days. AND he has to pay for the flag. In light of the SF story of students sent home for wearing the AMERICAN flag because it offended the Hispanic students, I thought you’d like to know about a story closer to home.
The problem with this report is that Berry used a picture with it that shows a Mexican flag flying above an upside-down American flag, but there’s no indication that’s what happened at this school. That picture comes from an incident several years ago (exactly as shown on the Boss Emeritus’ site in March 2006) and not from Klein Collins. Berry’s report only says that the school “displayed the Mexican flag prominently,” which could mean almost anything. Was it on a flagpole at all? Was it displayed on a wall in the cafeteria?
Without that incendiary picture, the reason for outrage becomes very muddled. There’s nothing so wrong with displaying a Mexican flag on a school campus (as long as it doesn’t replace the American flag) that it requires student intervention. Like it or not, students don’t make the rules at school, and the student in question had no business removing a school display without permission from the administration. One can question whether a three-day suspension was warranted, but it’s difficult to argue with the application of disciplinary action.
In contrast, the students at Live Oak High School were disciplined for wearing clothing with an American-flag theme on the basis of its supposed offense to those celebrating a minor holiday honoring a foreign country. It’s an outrageous action designed to punish personal political speech merely on the basis that it disagreed with the administration. The two don’t really have any equivalency, at least not with the details reported at KTRH.
Update: Berry has updated the post to show the actual display of the flag — hanging from a railing over a corridor. It wasn’t on a flagpole or flying over the American flag. There may be valid reasons to object to this display (as expressed by many commenters below), but the student shouldn’t have taken it down himself.
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You’re wrong, HornetSting. I don’t lump all people of color together, which is why I don’t randomly start talking about welfare or handouts when the subject of Mexicans (in any context) come up, like you all do.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:17 PM
I gave you a more concrete example above…
I don’t agree and I don’t see your argument. I’ve met people (as mentioned above) that claim they are proud New Yorkers, but then they are ashamed of the US (not just a few actions, but the actual American culture/ideals/&c). Are we going to tell these people they really aren’t proud New Yorkers (even if they claim so), simply because they admit they are also embarrassed to be American? BTW, I’m just using New York as a real-life example and I’m speaking from experience.
It would be like me saying that I’m a proud blond woman, and then arguing that I’m not a proud woman.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:12 PM
That’s one example, but as I’ve said, I don’t think the Basques would be proud Frenchmen or proud Spaniards … even though the land they love is contained in both countries. I’ve given several counterexamples to your claim… you’ve given one example demonstrating your claim.
MeatHeadinCA on May 7, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Well, then you’re imposing your desired definition of “proud” on them. Hey, look, I don’t like these people. I find them shallow, but I’m not going to tell them they aren’t really proud to be from New York… That’s an extremely hard, if not impossible argument to make.
MeatHeadinCA on May 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Such a serious little thing you are. Looks like the tongue-in-cheek stuff flies way over your head.
RepubChica on May 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Well it has basis in fact, sarcasm or not.
What are you talking about?
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:20 PM
Well, I have always just been a proud Southerner, but this post just might get me there…………the weird part of Narutoboy’s rant about Confederate flags, I’ve lived in either Al or Ga all my 44 yrs, and no one to date has ever tried to force me to display one, wear one, or plede any kind of allegiance to one. Seeing one on some Bubba’s 4WD doesn’t quite stir up any rage in me.
di butler on May 7, 2010 at 5:21 PM
Really funny how you seem to lump all Conservatives together, however, to the point of wishing them all to be “eradicated”–by far the most hate-filled statement on this entire 400-comment thread.
Hitler called–he wants his Final Solution idea back.
RepubChica on May 7, 2010 at 5:23 PM
To say that Netuerboy has a problem with the Confederacy would be a world class understatement. And oddly enough it is only discussed when he is around and all threads he is involved with usually become about the Confederacy. I think there might be a school paper involved. He’s boring.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I don’t believe I’ve ever fought with you and never intend to – not even over the needless drama. I’m making my own point. He’s simply the one who brought it up. As I said in my last post, this is my opinion regardless of ernesto’s stance.
And I have paid plenty attention. You have no reason to patronize me.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM
I don’t go around tearing them down though. I just think they’re pathetic. When I see one, I just shake my head and go on about my day, just like with an Obama bumper sticker.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM
So my opposition to this on grounds that it is illegal under the Flag Code, a disrespectful separatist display on public property, and disrespectful to the country as a whole equates to racial resentment? Puh-lease. I have some swamp land in Florida I’d like to sell you.
And the way I read it, none of that was a defense of the Confederacy in and of itself, but poking fun at what passes for logic in your head.
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 5:25 PM
The Neo-Nazis commence marches throughout cities in the US, Germany, and other countries. George Rockwell, dimwit. Look him up. The White Nationalist movement is a codename for the largest collaboration of Neo-Nazis. There is NOTHING neo-confederate groups have that even compares to the neo-Nazi’s influence. You have a lot to learn, pal.
You provided a single picture of a woman next to a street with a miniature confederate flag, with no context whatsoever. I found the source site: Matt Yglesias via ThinkProgress. Very cute. Credible as a five-dollar hooker. It was the only confederate flag to come up, five pages into a Google Image search for “Tea Party flag”. That’s your evidence?
Naive and uninformed, says the idiot kid who claims the Civil War was only about slavery. You’ve got the education and critical thinking skills of a 12 year old.
A flag of a defunct nation or movement is a historical artifact. Put it anywhere you want. A flag of a neighboring country that has demonstrated complete disregard for our border is not something to be placed prominently in a federal institution unless it has some relevance to a school project.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Reality must be HORRIFYING for you. And again, with the lumping in….check out California and all their problems….the entitlements will run out one day and there will be war…and the people that do not honor our flag, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’S flag, will wage war against us….
Illegal aliens, and yes, MEXICANS, use a lot of our resources. This is reality…if it offends you, you better grow a thicker skin.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Why do I find it hard to believe you’d let it go? Maybe you take out all of your rage on the internet…
MeatHeadinCA on May 7, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Did you miss the part where I said it is nevertheless part of our history and the fabric of this country? Just because you think displaying it is like a dog whistle for Klan members doesn’t make that any less a fact. Conversely, I’m not aware of a time ever when Mexico was part of this country.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 5:26 PM
RepubChica on May 7, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I laughed at that.
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 5:27 PM
You keep fighting his battles, you’re going to be busy, Esthier.
And, I’d rather not even speak to you, much less patronize you.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:27 PM
Have fun … I’m out.
MeatHeadinCA on May 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Back off, already.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Or what..you going to get me banned too?
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Nice come back on being taken for obvious sarcasm.
“I know you are, but what am I?”
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:31 PM
I’ve never gotten anyone banned. You’re losing it.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Wow, you’re an idiot. You went from basically denying the existence of a confederate flag at a tea party to saying “oh, well, that’s just one…” How pathetic and typical of some brainless chump. You might as well have asked me to prove the grass is green. Nice red-herring, by the way, bringing up the source of the site. If you have some evidence that the photo was faked, give it. If not, you know what to do. Like I said earlier, that isn’t the only picture of a confederate flag at a tea party. Why do you keep setting yourself up to be debunked? You didn’t even know about the one; what makes you think you could find a second?
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Sure, sure.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Never have and though you’ve clearly missed it the last two times, I’m not doing it now either.
Then don’t. I don’t get or care about your problem with me, but there’s a really simple solution.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Too? More information please.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:34 PM
I don’t have a problem with you…I’m arguing my point as you are.
You felt the need to butt in.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM
I pick number two.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM
What an odd thread this has been to read.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:36 PM
With nutaro’s rage against all things Confederate, I’m beginning to wonder if he was a Confederate latrine in a past life….
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:37 PM
The “Nazi’s” are gone, pal. The Neo-Nazi’s are a separate group. They aren’t like the KKK, where person closely aligned with another person would pick up the torch and carry on the legacy of the group. But like the KKK, Neo-Nazi’s, especially in America, are irrelevant. Nazi-Germany, the entity that flew swastika flag, was a government force. Neo Nazi’s are not.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:37 PM
You respond…with one miniature confederate flag at what may or may not have been a tea party, which is difficult to ascertain because Matt Yglesias is a liberal with a vested interest in making tea parties out to be full of “racists”. He provided two pictures of some event, and one person in one of the pictures held one miniature flag.
You made the claim. Prove it.
Tell you what. 5000 people in Madison last year. Count the confederate flags, jackass.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Doesn’t give you more of right to wave that than the Mexican flag. The CSA was not apart of this country. That was the whole point.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Is this a great country or what????? Free range deranged thinking and comments. You gotta love it.
retiredeagle on May 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM
You’re still so bent out of shape you’ve turned your sights on bystanders?? Come now, no need for that.
As for whether I’m proud to be American, of course I am. New York’s been an American power center from the very beginning…I’m proud of the nation and constitution that New Yorkers were instrumental in forming. Hell, we named a whole avenue after James Madison, who wasn’t even a New Yorker. I love America, in spite of the fact that y’all can’t stand us (which has always been a jealousy thing, anyway).
Do I love it so much that I give a damn about flags? Absolutely not. Nothing’s worth giving a damn about a freaking piece of cloth hung a certain way. Your anachronistic traditions and faux-patriotism are entirely irrelevant.
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM
LOL! Hey have you seen OmahaConservative lately?
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Good grief. You know absolutely nothing about domestic terrorism, do you?
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:40 PM
That’s nice. It’s not up to you to prove that it’s true and accurately reflects a Tea Party rally, even though it’s oddly alone in its depiction of Tea Partiers as “confed” and comes from a suspicious source. It’s instead up to Madison to prove that the picture, whose origins he isn’t given, is somehow false.
And even that’s assuming debunking the picture would actually mean anything to you.
At best you now have that one picture and maybe one more than you mentioned posting earlier, and we have hundreds of pictures of Tea Partiers without them, proudly displaying American flags, and you’ve already used your tiny evidence to smear all Tea Partiers.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:40 PM
HornetSting is having a hissy fit and is lashing out at people right now, including me by glomming onto the talking point a few people who hate me concocted, that somehow I get people banned. Somehow I make people post really over-the-line comments that get them banned. It’s amazing. I didn’t even know I was telepathic.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Holy crap, you’re so full of s, MadisonConservative. I did a search and found a second image showing a man with the stars and bars on his shirt (apparel).
Lots of people + Confederate flag + Don’t tread on me flag. Yeah, I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s a tea party. But you’re probably right, I’m sure that’s just a photo from a redneck family reunion.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:43 PM
I wish I was better at finding stuff on the internet. There was a “review” of a Tea Party by some Lefty and he was aghast at all the “Confederate” flags. They turned out to be the Tennessee state flag.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:44 PM
And yet you are going on your second hour whining about the big, bad Confederate flag. You say one thing, do another. You are a hypocrite.
speed911 on May 7, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Except that you’d rather not even talk to me for some unexplained reason.
I didn’t realize it was a private conversation, especially considering I was having it with Meat more than you. Put up the “do not disturb” sign next time, and I’ll stay away.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Bystanders? Hardly. Esthier can take care of herself and has so proven…you, well, your arguments usually fall flat.
Now, that didn’t hurt so bad, did it, Ernesto?
Now, as far as a freaking piece of cloth…well, people have fought and died for that freaking piece of cloth…because it’s not necessarily the piece of cloth that they are fighting about….it’s what it represents.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Another example of you generalizing….the very thing you have criticized conservatives for. Again…..hypocrite, thy name is Narutoboy.
speed911 on May 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM
How can you say Neo-Nazis are irrelevant when they exist globally?
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM
I wasn’t arguing with you. You came in…we usually agree on most things, like you said.
And, as for do not disturb signs…I think nutaro needs it more than me.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM
A shirt’s not a flag. The issue at hand isn’t some student wearing a shirt with the Mexican flag on it. The issue is an ACTUAL MEXICAN FLAG being displayed prominently in a US school. Oh, and once again, you claimed…
You’ve provided one picture from a left-wing website showing a woman on a curb holding a miniature confederate flag, and now you supposedly have a picture of a man who isn’t carrying a confederate flag, which you haven’t linked.
Prove what you said, or shut the hell up.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM
I thought I missed something exciting. Do you remember the great “fights” you use to get into with wacwaca (is that right)? You two were awesomely funny. I think we might be a touch too serious lately. We also seem to be missing some people that I really miss but I guess that is the nature of the internet beast.
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Did you run out of whiskey again….get over yourself.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Well, according to Narutoboy, one picture of a woman holding a mini confederate flag, and another picture of a man with a picture of the confederate flag on his shirt equals…
I saw more signs advertising for Alex Jones’ website than I saw confederate flags. That must mean there are many signs for Alex Jones’ website at tea parties.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Spare me the uber-patriotism, please, because the fact remains that many of those people could still be alive, if only we were a little less paranoid and a little less willing to get blinded by patriotism…which is what this is all about. Some people are so mad with faux-patriotism that they take offense to other countries’ flags.
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM
HA has changed a lot in the last couple of years…and not for the better. I fear it will never be the same.
And HS, you’re the unreasonable one right now. Simmer down.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Holy crap, you are dense. Please take a history class next semester.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Good grief. If you have the design of the flag on your shirt, it makes no difference. The problem with people waving confederate flags at a tea party is not that it’s rectangular and has a handle on it, it’s the design on it. What a pathetic argument you just gave. Wow.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM
You’re an idiot. The CSA was a separate country, with a separate constitution. If you didn’t know this, what the heck did you learn during civil war class?
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Well, I’m glad your true colors finally reared their ugly head, Ernesto.
And, unlike you, the American flag means something to me….as I would assume the Mexican flag being flown in an American school means something to THEM….reconquista, who knows…but, this is America…you wave the American flag. You want to wave the Mexican flag, go back to Mexico and celebrate your ‘BEER’ holiday.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM
It makes a difference if you made a completely asinine, unproven claim about tea parties and then it turns out your evidence for it is that a guy wore a damned t-shirt.
A shirt is not a flag. That you can’t understand the difference speaks volumes of your intelligence.
Last hint, cretin: If a student was wearing a t-shirt with a Mexican flag on it, nobody would have taken it down. A flag means a lot more than a shirt.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Don’t tell me what to do, MadCon. Last time I checked, you’re not my daddy.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:55 PM
A shirt with the design of the confederate flag, yes. That and the photo of the woman from the tea party holding a confederate flag. An hour ago you were asserting that there was no confederate flag at the tea party, or at leas that I couldn’t prove it. Well, I did. Now you’ve shifted the debate to being about how many people with confederate flags I can find. That’s an old, overused, weaselly argument.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:56 PM
I doubt anyone here hates New York. I know I don’t: I come from a long line of New Yorkers on my dad’s side, all the way back to the first (legal) immigrants who came off the boat in the mid-1800s. My brothers and their families still live in the city. My parents lived there together for 15 years, I lived there for five. So stop painting everyone with the same brush. What I find so obnoxious about your New York pride is that you have so much disdain for the rest of the country. Do you mean to tell us your family couldn’t have succeeded anywhere else? I have a good friend in Atlanta who is Puerto Rican. Her parents moved the family there when she was just 12. She learned English by watching American soap operas. All of the family has done quite well for themselves, and my friend and her siblings have college educations and own their own homes. When they call America “The Land of Opportunity” they’re actually talking about, you know, America. Not just New York. Try leaving the city once in awhile and expanding your horizons. You might learn something.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 5:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMmx-znVZc
Now, shut your mouth MadisonConservative.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 5:58 PM
No. We’ll just continue thumbing our noses at you, just to piss you off. Besides, I don’t see you demanding all Irish and Italian flags get taken down in the NY metro area.
And remember, I’m not Mexican. Cinco de Mayo is not “my” beer holiday any more than St. Patrick’s is.
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 5:58 PM
I did and do often when I see a point I’d like to pick up and discuss. Obviously we disagree here, that happens sometimes, but it was the “rather not talk” comment that seemed the non sequitor unless it’s related to something else, and there’s simply nothing I can do about that.
I can’t even begin to understand what he needs.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Proof dummy. He wants proof.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 5:59 PM
I’ve given proof, dummy. I’ve given proof. Now I’ve provided video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMmx-znVZc
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM
The history of the Confederacy and the Confederate flag sure do get bastardized by people who don’t understand American history or are honest in their intent. If your first thought when you see one is, “those racist a$$holes just want to return to slave-owning days,” then I just pity you.
di butler on May 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM
‘We’….yeah, I know you’re not a Mexican, ernesto. But, I would assume ‘We’ would be those working against the United States.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Yes, I’m such an idiot that I graduated magna cum laude with a degree in history. You are the idiot if you assert that the existence of a Confederacy is not in integral part of American history, just like you are an idiot for asserting that the sole cause of the Civil War was the fight over slavery.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM
A separate country WHICH IS STILL AMERICAN IN ORIGIN AND NATURE.
Maybe you should take “civil war class” (LOL) over again.
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Ugh…I don’t even want to go there, Esthier…
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Prior to May 5, 2010, I probably wouldn’t have had too much of a problem with a Mexican flag hanging in the hallway to commemorate Cinco De Mayo. After the students were sent home for wearing clothing depicting the American flag in AMERICA, I now have a HUGE problem with any school flying the mexican flag at any time for any reason. I believe this is called something like ‘forced racism.’
speed911 on May 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM
I’m sympathetic to more moderate conservatives, since in the context of this website I am one, but you need to stop digging your hole. Two flags does not “many” make.
Black Yoshi on May 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM
No, I didn’t assert that there were no confederate flags at tea parties. I asserted that there were none at the ones I’ve attended, which is true, backed up by several photographs of the largest one. I said that your claim that there were many confederate flags at tea parties was bulls**t.
No, you didn’t. You provided one photo of one woman with a miniature confederate flag at what may or may not have been a tea party. You then referenced a photo of a guy with a shirt, which is not a flag, which makes the fact that you didn’t even actually provide the photo irrelevant. You live in your own world where you simply saying something, no matter how incredulous, makes it fact. Wrong.
Not when you claimed there were “many”. I’m holding you to your claim, which you haven’t proven, or even come close to proving.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Yeah, well, an hour ago (probably more actually) you were asserting that there were many Confederate flags at Tea Party rallies, so you clearly know a bit about moving goal posts when you can point to one picture of one woman with one flag (and then much later do a Google search and find one more kinda flag at what looks to be a completely different rally).
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Seems to me like Narutogirl has no idea why some Southerners truly fly the Stars/Bars.
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM
I know, I miss a lot of folks. As for Confederate flags at Tea Parties, I have seen zero in Florida, how many have you seen in Wisconsin? It’s an epidemic I tell you!!!
Cindy Munford on May 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Well, pity the pea-brained Narutoboy then, because that’s what he believes.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM
I guess they didn’t teach you how to read…? Find me the quote of me saying that. I actually said the exact opposite, you moron. Paraphrasing: Mexico is an important apart part of our history, too, what with us obtaining land from them.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Again, I’m not ‘working’ against anyone. I’m beginning to think you’re intentionally trying to seem as nationalistic as possible…playing up your McCarthy cred, maybe?
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 6:06 PM
I’m not asking you to.
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Yeah, keep moving the goal posts, dude.
NoLeftTurn on May 7, 2010 at 6:08 PM
No, I just have a photographic memory of your own ‘patriotism’, Ernesto.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Why go there?
Esthier on May 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM
While there may be some Confederate flags at some tea parties, the Confederate flag does not represent the tea party. To insinuate that it does is untrue but standard for flaming lefties who work purely on emotion and misrepresentation.
speed911 on May 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM
The fumes from your BS are nauseating. You’re a liar and a bad one at that. Here is what you said:
“Still waiting for you to prove this, jackass.”
followed by
“Gadsden flags are being flown at tea parties, not confederate flags.”
Whoopsie!
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Thank you.
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Unless that “color” is White, or the group being discussed is Southerners……Correct, Commissar NarutoBoy?
dmh0667 on May 7, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Goal posts? I asked you prove what you said. And I just paraphrased a statement I made earlier showing I said the exact OPPOSITE of what you claimed I did. Liar.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:11 PM
So now you’ve got a video with one guy with a confederate flag. That is a full-size, real flag. I’ll give you that. I’ll even give you the miniature flag. That makes a total of two flags, one at a confirmed tea party, that you’ve provided to back up your claim:
Meanwhile, I provided you with a tea party of 5,000 people. Not one confederate flag.
How about Atlanta’s Tea Party? Oops, no confederate flags. How about Jackson? Shucks, this is getting to be a pain. It’s like Where’s Waldo! Birmingham, maybe?
Nuts. Well, I guess Narutoboy is the best at finding confederate flags at tea parties. I mean, my first example was Madison. Probably best if I look in the Sout-oh, shoot, I did.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Why not? You seem to be playing up your Che Guevara cred, gulag and all…..
dmh0667 on May 7, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Why not? She’s obviously got me pegged as a subversive, its not that much of a stretch to suspect she’s forwarded my name to a committee on un-American activities…
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Che? Gulags? All because I think wetting your pants over a flag is silly?
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 6:14 PM
Which you haven’t. You’ve provided two flags to back up your claim of “many”.
I was referring to your claim of “many”. Your words. Many Gadsden flags are, and I’ve provided photos of such. You’ve provided pictures of two confederate flags.
Indeed. That foot must taste awful.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Nope, according to Janet Napolitano…I’m the subversive. And, I believe it’s YOUR committee that has the tattle-tale site….
HornetSting on May 7, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Okay, let’s take this from the top, stop me if you’re confused with anything:
America gets Mexico’s land . . .
After America gets Mexico’s land, that land is America’s and not Mexico’s . . .
America wins. Mexico is still its own country with its own culture.
That land America got from Mexico means Mexico gets something said about it in the books that tell us all where America came from.
But, Mexico as its own little place today with the little borders around it on the map, isn’t an important part of America and never was an important part of America.
Are you understanding this?
Ryan Anthony on May 7, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Im beginning to realize that your arguments require me to agree with people like Janet Napolitano and the rest of the Dems. Without that, you can’t make a point at all.
ernesto on May 7, 2010 at 6:17 PM
I said I had seen examples of many confederate flags at tea parties. I didn’t mention any percents or say that the they were in the majority. That’s what you implied. You, on the other hand, flatly stated that confederate flags were not being flown at tea parties.
I don’t know why this has to be argued. During our conversation, at least three or four people have come in arguing that waving them is completely OK.
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Charleston, South Carolina. Deep South. Must be some confederate flags there, right?
DAMMIT! I SUCK AT FINDING CONFEDERATE FLAGS AT TEA PARTIES! All I see is Gadsden flags(on shirts, too!) and US flags!
Narutoboy, teach me the ways of the farce.
MadisonConservative on May 7, 2010 at 6:18 PM
The two refute your claim of “not confederate flags.” You need to stop lying about what you said. “Gadsen flags are being flown at tea parties, not confederate flags.” That is what you said. “Not confederate flags.”
And someone said I’m digging my self a hole…are you blind?
Narutoboy on May 7, 2010 at 6:22 PM
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