Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead
posted at 11:37 am on May 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Well, well, well. Remember when Barack Obama said that under ObamaCare, people would keep their existing health plans and doctors? Remember when any suggestion that companies would find it a lot less expensive to dump employer-based health care and pay the penalties instead were cast as “myths” and “scare tactics,” even though the math was extremely easy to see? Welcome to Hope and Change:
The great mystery surrounding the historic health care bill is how the corporations that provide coverage for most Americans — coverage they know and prize — will react to the new law’s radically different regime of subsidies, penalties, and taxes. Now, we’re getting a remarkable inside look at the options AT&T, Deere, and other big companies are weighing to deal with the new legislation.
Internal documents recently reviewed by Fortune, originally requested by Congress, show what the bill’s critics predicted, and what its champions dreaded: many large companies are examining a course that was heretofore unthinkable, dumping the health care coverage they provide to their workers in exchange for paying penalty fees to the government.
Remember Henry Waxman’s threat to subpoena CEOs over their writedowns on the tax credit that disappeared in ObamaCare? Fortune now reveals why those hearings got canceled:
Waxman didn’t simply request documents related to the write down issue. He wanted every document the companies created that discussed what the bill would do to their most uncontrollable expense: healthcare costs.
The request yielded 1,100 pages of documents from four major employers: AT&T, Verizon, Caterpillar and Deere (DE, Fortune 500). No sooner did the Democrats on the Energy Committee read them than they abruptly cancelled the hearings. On April 14, the Committee’s majority staff issued a memo stating that the write downs were “proper and in accordance with SEC rules.” The committee also stated that the memos took a generally sunny view of the new legislation. The documents, said the Democrats’ memo, show that “the overall impact of health reform on large employers could be beneficial.”
Nowhere in the five-page report did the majority staff mention that not one, but all four companies, were weighing the costs and benefits of dropping their coverage.
It’s not just the calculus of mandates and penalties that has employers considering the option of dumping health care and paying more in salaries instead. The mandate to keep “children” on plans until the age of 26 has employers seeing a steep cost curve. For Caterpillar alone, the 26-year-old mandate will cost over $20 million a year. Under those conditions, the penalties look pretty good. Add on the “Cadillac tax” on some health plans and the expected jump in medical costs from providers dealing with their own set of mandates, and health insurance looks like a very bad risk.
What will it cost the government to provide subsidies for tens of millions of Americans who used to get health insurance through their employers? No one really knows for sure, but Fortune takes a stab at it:
What does it mean for health care reform if the employer-sponsored regime collapses? By Fortune’s reckoning, each person who’s dropped would cost the government an average of around $2,100 after deducting the extra taxes collected on their additional pay. So if 50% of people covered by company plans get dumped, federal health care costs will rise by $160 billion a year in 2016, in addition to the $93 billion in subsidies already forecast by the CBO. Of course, as we’ve seen throughout the health care reform process, it’s impossible to know for certain what the unintended consequences of these actions will be.
But some of us predicted that the numbers used by Democrats pushing ObamaCare bore little connection to reality — and that it would incentivize employers to destroy the net of employer-based health insurance. It looks like that day is fast approaching, and that’s no myth. It’s a reality that Henry Waxman tried hard to hide from the American public.









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So Obama and the Democrats have made health care worse? Who would have guessed!
IntheNet on May 6, 2010 at 11:41 AM
So it’s really just a surcharge tax after all.
I am so shocked. Shocked.
platypus on May 6, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Change you can believe in.
portlandon on May 6, 2010 at 11:41 AM
The adults are in charge now.
deidre on May 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM
& the penalties collected will go toward giving healthcare to welfare/illegals.
Full Circle.
portlandon on May 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Help the Feds spend your money. Salt, burgers, and jars of mayo for everyone!
Limerick on May 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Obama the Destroyer.
Inanemergencydial on May 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM
I have a feeling this is only the tip of the iceberg. Many other companies will be following suit. WAY to go this bho, team, and the d’s in dc!
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letget on May 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Thanks dear leader
Repeal now!
cmsinaz on May 6, 2010 at 11:44 AM
It’s time to stop looking for “unintended consequences”, and recognize that the consequences being foist upon us by this regime are intentional.
IronDioPriest on May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Repeal.
journeyintothewhirlwind on May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM
If you think about all the headaches involved in managing those benefits (staff, bureaucracy, etc) then, even if it is close in costs, it would be so much easier to pay one check to the government and be done. What an easy way out! Thanks, Obama!
yubley on May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM
I can’t stand these people.
Cindy Munford on May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Legislate your ones out of this, Dhims
blatantblue on May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM
The road to single payer is getting paved faster than anyone thought.
Knucklehead on May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM
FIF – all Americans
WordsMatter on May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM
That’s fine…they want us to bend over anyway.
WashJeff on May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM
You have to understand the endgame. This administration doesn’t want the private procurement of health insurance. What they really want is a single government payor. They are trying to overload, overwhelm and destroy the current system to create political demand for that very thing.
Insomniac on May 6, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Expect an amendment requiring companies to either keep covering their employees or pay fines which will cost them more than said coverage.
Bishop on May 6, 2010 at 11:47 AM
They counted on this – employers dump their employees who can’t otherwise afford health care for themselves and/or their families. Suddenly we need a public option NOWNOWNOWNOWNOW!!!! And it’ll be a lot easier for the public to swallow once it’s not some abstract “30 to 40 million uninsured” and instead its your brother, your neighbor, your parents, and you who’s out of an employer funded plan and trying to get affordable insurance and can’t afford it.
This will lead to the inevitable conclusion – ALL employers dump their insurance benefits and suddenly the insurance companies are “too big to fail” and are taken over lock, stock, and barrel by the government. Voila – 100% government run health care.
This is all going according to plan.
crazy_legs on May 6, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Somebody should have told them this would happen.
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Eren on May 6, 2010 at 11:48 AM
[rubs hands together] Ze plan is coming together nicely!
hoosiermama on May 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Even though I have closely followed the healthcare debate since Obama’s election, and I’ve known this would happen as well as many other “unintended” consequences, it is still shocking, still disheartening, even having been mentally prepared to read such things. There is no joy here in being proved right.
WordsMatter on May 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Technically, that’s true, it will be cheaper for the companies to pay the penalties then to provide health insurance. So it’s kind of pro-business. Until they get hit with the increased tax burden necessitated by the other aspects of the reform bill.
mbs on May 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Not ony was the math there – but for over 20+ years now – corporations have ditched retirees from healthcare plans, years after they retire. It takes a moron with a calculator, an Ivy league degree and a cuchy management position to do this, for profits
Not union folks – pensioned retireess, like IBM.
16 years after my father retired from IBM, after working there 29 years… was dropped from their HC , which placed the $847 a month burden on my parents, in their mid 60′s.
Where did they get that money from? His pension. For the past 2 years before my fathers death… his total monthly pension payment after HC was subtracted…. $38.
I can’t tell you how many phone calls and in person visits to Armonk to get a single explanation for this, well except the obvious: screw over those who paid into the system and dedicated their careers… for the “stockholders”
I grew up a Big Blue kid, whom I now despise.
Odie1941 on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM
It won’t happen until 2011. The Dems see this as a benefit, not a glitch. It would take a Republican Congress to pass such a change and then dare Obama to veto it.
teke184 on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Democrats have to be toast after this.
BuckeyeSam on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM
And by forcing these people off of private heath care they will now end up on a govt run version which will add even more cost to their origianl BS estimate. They told us by cutting this tax break they would save money, but as it turns out we will now have to pay even more beacause it will now be totally funded by the govt.
ImRight on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Commerce Clause!
Del Dolemonte on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM
And Obama is going to use this to champion National healthcare, despite the fact that he knowingly caused it! And the People will gobble it up without blinking.
Holger on May 6, 2010 at 11:51 AM
All going according to plan. After some hand-wringing, who-woulda-thunk-it?, and whining about the evil corporations, all those citizens wind up in the gubmint plan. Which is exactly where the Democrats wanted them to go in the first place.
Suckers.
novaculus on May 6, 2010 at 11:51 AM
ED, Please stop useing these myths and scare tactics on us…Oboobi care is the greatest thing that congress has ever done for us…./heavy sarc.
SHARPTOOTH on May 6, 2010 at 11:51 AM
TAXES are Patriotic……
SDarchitect on May 6, 2010 at 11:52 AM
This is exactly what our Socialist-in-Chief wanted: to get us out of the private sector and dependent upon the government. It’s going according to plan, so move on- there’s nothing to see here . . .
theenforser on May 6, 2010 at 11:52 AM
We let this happen. Jefferson would be terribly disappointed.
Inanemergencydial on May 6, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Chaz Bono SAVE US!
johnnyU on May 6, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Hmm, except the cost of living to those employees skyrockets, whereas they either need to pay them more or hope they can afford HC and/or the fines levied by the IRS if they dont get HC. WHich then leads to under funding 401k’s, which are primarily burdened by employees now.
Its myopic to think it “helps business” by dropping HC coverage for employees, as if a vacuum exists and those savings are passed along. They are not.
Odie1941 on May 6, 2010 at 11:53 AM
“This is a big Fu*kin’ deal”.
-Joe Biden, Vice President
portlandon on May 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM
But it’s the Obama administration. They would never lie or distort anything to push their agenda through…
Paradox Drive on May 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM
So we have ObamaCare very likely to put people into the government health insurance exchanges and Obama administration looking how to change our 401(k)’s into government regulation, if not owned, annuities.
Liberty, it was nice knowing you.
WashJeff on May 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM
^^This
JetBoy on May 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM
You said it more elegantly than I.
nyx on May 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM
They wrote this law for this to specifically happpen, exactly the way it’s happening. Sure there was a glitch here and there like the going public with the extra costs to companies, but it is all going pretty much as planned. If people can’t or won’t see that, then they are not being honest with themselves.
Johnnyreb on May 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM
The final tell was Dennis Kucinich stepping off AF1 and immediately announcing his support for a plan that he had previously opposed because it didn’t go far enough.
Clearly, Mr. Soetoro told Kucinich that the plan would ram open the door to single payer far faster than even the hard left radicals thought possible.
BardMan on May 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Uh, BHO already said that the first phase of his plan toward single payer was to “decouple health insurance from employment” and that it may take 10-20 years to fully complete. If employers no longer offer health coverage (in which they pay a large % of the premium not to mention the inherent discounts from larger risk pools) then this will translate into a direct tax on those previously covered as they’ll have to purchase an individual policy w/no employer match. They could of course always buy a catastrophic policy – oh wait, those are gone now too under O-care. So, yeah the public is pretty much screwed either way. Full repeal is the only option.
volnation on May 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Mission accomplished, single payer here we come.
farright on May 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Yep. Especially if word of this gets out into the general news cycle.
WitchDoctor on May 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Every single Democrat up for reelection this November has to get the boot. Then with a Republican Congress/Senate, this fool should be impeached before he does any more damage. I am so angry. I expected this but I am still so angry.
nyx on May 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM
It’s also a reality the socialists were after all along, and adore.
Sheep in the plantation, galore! Enjoy your overlords, fools.
Schadenfreude on May 6, 2010 at 11:58 AM
One point the article makes is about the “extra taxes collected on additional pay.” Is that assuming an employer will drop health care coverage and then give the employee a raise? I have my doubts that would happen (even under a Reganomics approach). The more likely scenario, is that the companies will drop the coverage, pay the penalties, and then blame it on the Obamacare law. However, if that is the assumption, does that mean either the writer or the Dems are big time believers in Reaganomics?
Conservative in NOVA on May 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM
As a Verizon retiree I can tell you I’m not at all shocked. They took away the management pension, retroactively, 5 years ago.
I’m expecting a huge jump in my premiums come next January and if it’s more than the fine I’ll just dump my coverage.
Jaynie59 on May 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Fixed.
Del Dolemonte on May 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM
The feds will get the penalty money to spend and it won’t be on better health care. They are in the process of ruining the best medical service in the world.
Kissmygrits on May 6, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Since health insurance is a part of compensation, are these companies likely to increase the cash portion of their employee salaries, or will this likely amount to a huge double-whammy wherein the employees get a sudden wage drop combined with the government mandate to purchase their own coverage?
That would be disastrous. It’s exactly what the Obama voters deserve, but they’ll take the rest of us down with them.
Kensington on May 6, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Now that they’ve passed it,
We’re finding out what’s in it,
As Nancy promised…
Haiku Guy on May 6, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Major Corps don’t offer Healthcare and opt to pay $1500 fine, you don’t buy Healthcare and opt to pay $2500 fine, the Govt gets $4k for each HONEST working citizen payable to the Clowns via fines. In addition, we will be paying more taxes to hire the resources to monitor this. Brought to you from Hussein and his Posse of Clowns.
BigMike252 on May 6, 2010 at 12:01 PM
I’ve always said we need to get away from employer-based health care, but not like this.
Kafir on May 6, 2010 at 12:02 PM
Nailhead. I can tell you from personal experience that despite all the weeping and wailing over the ’30 million’, most people are too busy trying to keep their own finances afloat (or man the lifeboats) to really give a cr@p about anyone they don’t know personally.
But when the lack of health insurance hits them and half their circle of family/friends…then it’s a whole new ballgame.
Dark-Star on May 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Waxman punked himself.
Tool worthy.
fogw on May 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM
What about companies that self-insure, and just use an insurance company as a third-party administrator?
Ward Cleaver on May 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Yep. They are doing the autopsy on all of us now, to see what it was they they force fed us in that ObamaCare bill.
portlandon on May 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM
So, the dominoes are falling, the plan is working. Canada here we come.
RBMN on May 6, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Paging Captain Renault!
Rovin on May 6, 2010 at 12:04 PM
I feel for you, per my post concerning my father and IBM, with the same retroavtive “pulling” of pension benefits.
Odie1941 on May 6, 2010 at 12:04 PM
So soon?
Akzed on May 6, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Well, since the Democrats have said over and over and over again that no one will ever be punished for not paying… Why on earth would anyone ever pay?
logis on May 6, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Does the IMF have enough cash to bail us out?
Inanemergencydial on May 6, 2010 at 12:05 PM
I was being sarcastic, forgot the sarc tag
mbs on May 6, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Step 1:
Make it easier for corporations to cancel their healthcare policies than to keep them.
Step 2: set up a government healthcare program that’s meant to “compete” with existing programs. “not take over the entire industry”
Step 3: watch all the people who once had healthcare through work, flock to the new government program.
Jewels on May 6, 2010 at 12:07 PM
This is not unexpected. Big business no longer shows loyalty to employees like in the old days. It’s all about the bottom line and how much profit the ceo’s can siphon off. I’d say this is going according to the Amateur in Chief’s plan. They knew big business would dump employee insurance and pay fines. It’s cheaper, saves the company big $$$, which equals more for the ceo’s. Meanwhile the little guy is screwed.
GrannySunni on May 6, 2010 at 12:07 PM
We will all be slaves to government soon!
taney71 on May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM
But wait, Michael Medved keeps chirping about Obooba being a good man who is well intended.
Akzed on May 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM
“All your healthcare are belong to us!” -Obooba.
Akzed on May 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Somehow this is racist.
JammieWearingFool on May 6, 2010 at 12:10 PM
My bad, clearly this issue hits home with me, no worries.
Odie1941 on May 6, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Knucklehead on May 6, 2010 at 11:46 AM
That was my first thought, too – nasty little thing, isn’t it?
Otis B on May 6, 2010 at 12:10 PM
And as a bonus, the businesses can blame the recession, which made it an absolute necessity to (again) give their workers the shaft.
Dark-Star on May 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM
If you pay federal income taxes, taxes on cell phones, taxes on gasoline for your vehicle, or anything that has a tax that is nation wide… you are already OWNED by the government.
*sighs*
And everyone let them do it.
upinak on May 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM
The companies will only drop management health care. They can’t drop it for the unions because it’s part of the collective bargaining agreements.
Management health insurance has had a co-pay on premiums for 20-25 years. In other words, most people will actually see a raise in their take home pay because they will no longer have insurance premiums deducted. Judging by most of the people I worked with, this will make many people happy.
Never over estimate the intelligence of the average person. For the last three years I worked at Verizon we had one lay off after the other. The vast majority of other managers I knew and worked with and discussed it with had no frigging idea how much money they made, period, much less how much their health insurance was worth and what their co-pay was beyond what they could see on their pay stubs. Most people had direct deposit and didn’t even know how to look at their pay stub.
Jaynie59 on May 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM
I absolutely despise that man, I can’t wait as I can see November from where I stand and it’ll be ugly for the rats.
Onager on May 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM
But I was guaranteed if I liked my insurance, I would get to keep it.
ramrants on May 6, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Anyone else having issues with the GIANT picture for this thread?
upinak on May 6, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Actually Granny, it’s called basic economics in a capitalist society—fading into the sunset. Spare me the greedy CEO and “little guy” garbage that comes straight from the liberal handbook.
Rovin on May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM
In this economy, companies don’t have to offer a raise as compensation for dropping the HC. They know the employee has no where else to go. With nobody hiring, what options does the employee have? None, which is why he/she will stay, even with substantially reduced benefits.
It’s great for companies that want to reduce costs. For everybody else, it sucks.
AZCoyote on May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM
exactly.
tim c on May 6, 2010 at 12:15 PM
I was right there with you on that prediction. It was honestly a no-brainer, and still Democrats didn’t get it.
drjohn on May 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Giant step toward single payer…the system is working…
d1carter on May 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM
It was never about health care. Government is taking. They want power and more power and to micromanage our lives. Keeping those goals in mind, Obama would probably give himself an A- or even A at this point. Everything according to Hoyle so far…
We tried to warn the country before the election. Now we pray and work to stop the evil plots that are in the pipeline and reverse the damage already done. I’m not optimistic.
Ordinary1 on May 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Yes, the plan is to destroy the private insurance industry and it is going precisely as designed.
drjohn on May 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM
No $hit.
Midas on May 6, 2010 at 12:19 PM
So where are the “will never happen” idiot trolls today?
Midas on May 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM
This has been obvious since Lewin’s analysis of Edwards’ plan back during the campaign. Actually I read an article in Reason back during the Clinton administration that laid out the same problem with play-or-pay.
DrSteve on May 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM
I’m a regular, independent guy. Ann will represent my viewpoint.
Thanks
DarkCurrent on May 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM
The first thing large corporations are doing is using audit companies like Chapman Kelly Inc. to pare dependends off their employees’ group insurance if they can’t produce proper….’papers’ of dependency. No papers, no insurance. Spouses, adult children? Papers please. What was the word the libs were using about producing papers?
Over30 on May 6, 2010 at 12:22 PM
You forgot Step 2.5, “Heavily subsidize the public option; or alternatively, shell-game its operating costs all over the federal budget so that revenues only have to meet its on-agency-budget costs.”
DrSteve on May 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Yeah, look; just like ‘withholding’, people aren’t accustomed to really considering that their employer-provided coverage is ‘compensation’, and 99.95% of them wouldn’t know how to go about quantifying it in terms of dollars if they *did* think of it that way.
Companies are going to dump employee coverage, and there will *not* be a commensurate increase in employee wages/salaries, and most people will not think to ask their employer about or for it.
Midas on May 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Completely according to plan.
Including the bald-faced lying by the man who is supposed to be leading the country.
There has NEVER been a president more worthy of impeachments.
Nixon’s actions are child’s play in comparison.
Obama will be known as the Lenin of the US.
notagool on May 6, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Democrats to Require Individuals to Buy “D’oh!bama” Insurance to Cover Losses Resulting from Flaws in ObamaCare Law
Mervis Winter on May 6, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Now that the corporations are “opting out”, just exactly WHO will shoulder the burden of the elderly, the infirm, and those with special medical needs? Can a bankrupt government that is responsible for the hyperinflation that will utterly destroy the value of its currency somehow care for all these people?
Watch closely now. In the not too distant future, you just might begin to see the assembly of an infrastructure that will dole out the “final solution” for everyone who has serious medical issues.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on May 6, 2010 at 12:25 PM
President Cloward-Piven is right on schedule. By the time he’s finished, his opponents will be together in reeducation camps.
Look at the bright side, though. At least we’ll get to put faces with the names of our friends here at Hot Air.
turfmann on May 6, 2010 at 12:26 PM
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