MS-NBC anchor: I’m so bummed that Shahzad wasn’t a Tea Partier

posted at 1:36 pm on May 4, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Brian Maloney gives us this entry for the Someone Left the Irony On Department, in which Contessa Brewer tells Stephanie Miller that she’s really unhappy that she couldn’t use the Times Square bombing attempt to prove Tea Party “bigotry.”  Never mind that this clip shows the bigotry of Brewer in relation to conservatives — that all of the opponents of Barack Obama and the Democrats are somehow the equivalent of the Hutaree militia in Michigan.  Brewer really wanted a way to smear conservatives, and now she’ll just have to wait a little longer:

BREWER: I mean the thing is is that and I get frustrated and there was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way. I mean they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.

And so there was part of me was really hoping this would not be the case that here would be somebody who is not the defined. I mean he’s accused he’s arrested you know I don’t want to convict him before it’s time to do so. He’s the guy authorities say is involved. But that being said I mean we know even in recent history you have the Hutaree militia from Michigan who have plans to let’s face it create terror.

That’s what they were planning to do and they were doing so from far different backgrounds then what this guy is coming from. So, the threat is not just coming from people who decide that America is the place to be and you know come here and want to become citizens. Obviously this guy did.

Yes, Contessa, there does seem to be a lot of people who want to “justify writing off people who believe in a certain way” as either terrorists or racists. Your network employs more than a few.

Newsbusters has more thoughts on Brewer’s unhappiness.


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MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Yes, as analyzed by the inventor of the system himself – a true expert witness.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Then I guess that makes you Contessa Brewer.

(If I disagree that makes you someone I don’t like).

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM

You’re parroting Janet’s line of “argument” about Waco.
When the Federal Government couldn’t use the initial incident (where ATF officers stormed the compound in full body armor with tanks under the guise of serving a warrant) as an excuse to lay a military siege to Mt. Carmel, Janet reversed that line of attack on them and changed it to “(alleged)sexual abuse of the children.”
The Branch Davidians were completely demonized by the Clinton Administration and their enablers in the MSM and then barbecued for their “crimes.”

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:14 PM

It sucks to hear the truth but thats what it is.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

A judge released the Hutaree victims stating that the govmint didn’t have the proof to back up their charges. I knew that whole thing was bogus.

Brewer is stirring the pot here, trying to smear Tea Party people. What a tool.

Kissmygrits on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Seeing how a child cannot consent, the only option is rape.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM

…or that the parents consented. I’m not sure what the laws in Texas were at the time. I’m not saying it’s right, but it doesn’t mean it was forced. The presentation of these people as cultists comes into conflict with the fact that all the members of the church regularly mingled with people in Waco and the surrounding area. Cults don’t allow that.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I missed the part about anyone deserving to die. You’ll have to link that please. We were discussing the usual question, “what the heck were the parents thinking”. When you have kids, you think of them first and yourself last. I don’t see anyone here gleeful that ANYONE died.

If you’re new to HA, you’ll see that most folks who have been here awhile don’t gloating over anyone’s demise, death threats or speculation, or celebrating catastrophe.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Contessa Brewer dropped out of journalism school.
One can only guess how she made it to her position on a
national show.
Contessa Brewer, like many journalists-in-training, is chomping at the bit to discredit the Tea Party movement.

Her viewpoint is one of the central reasons our country is in the shape it’s in right now:
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS RUN AMOK !!!

Mark7788 on May 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

What part of Janet effed up did you not read.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM

I don’t care what you say. A mother who does not protect her kids is not worth anything. My sole purpose in life is to protect my children. Any woman who allowed her children to be in that kind of position shares the blame. What kind of mother allows here daughter to be raped by a man? Are you going to deny that there were underage mothers there? Seeing how a child cannot consent, the only option is rape.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM

There is absolutely no evidence that any of the sexual abuse you believe to be “fact” ever occurred.
And that was a determination that could and should have been made by Child Protective Services, not the ATF, FBI and military soldiers in tanks and body armor.
Survivors of Mt. Carmel maintain that there was no abuse.

And if there had been, why hadn’t authorities been there to investigate before the ATF raid?

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Yes, as analyzed by the inventor of the system himself – a true expert witness.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM

As well an independent professional outfit that specialized in thermal film analysis. Who failed to notice the heat signatures that could only be gunfire? The same people that lost a critical door and magically had a tape go blank, both of which would have proved their guilt.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM

What part of Janet effed up did you not read.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Just the part you didn’t write.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

A parent cannot consent to have a man have sex with their child. The age of consent in Texas is 17. A man who has sex with a little girl is a pedophile, period.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:23 PM

A parent cannot consent to have a man have sex with their child. The age of consent in Texas is 17. A man who has sex with a little girl is a pedophile, period.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:23 PM

What are you talking about???

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Just the part you didn’t write.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I agree with you on Reno’s effup, but there is a big difference between your zealous Christian wanted to convert ‘tcha to their brand of religion and the davidians.

Cults are like pornography. I can’t give you a precise definition, but I know it when I see it. When a group requires that you live on their land under their thumb to blot out all outside influence, it is hard to defend that they are not a cult.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:03 PM

or the part your didn’t read.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

I guess you are not able to follow your argument to a logical conclusion. Just because they were bad parents does not mean they deserved then end they got.
There is a pattern here. The government over-reacts to any internal, right of center threat (Ruby Ridge, Waco) but downplays the actual threats we face from our real enemies. The MSNBC bimbo’s statement is just another piece in the puzzle.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

There were underage mothers in the compound. How does a girl get pregnant when they are below the age of consent and it not be called rape?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

What really puzzles me is why the media is so superficial and vapid.

What’s up with that?

I would think with those salaries that the bench would be deep.

AnninCA on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:21 PM

I saw the same video you did, and it makes my stomach turn to know what our own government did to those people.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

What are you talking about???

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Read his comment which I properly linked. He said maybe the parents consented.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

A parent cannot consent to have a man have sex with their child. The age of consent in Texas is 17. A man who has sex with a little girl is a pedophile, period.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Marriageable age by state. Texas:

Texas: 18, 16 with parental consent. 14 with judicial consent or if person under 18 had previously married and divorced.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM

I’m pretty sure I never said Esthier was a Leftist.
Save your outrage for something else.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Do you need a full list? If so, let me know upfront exactly where the bar’s being set.

Esthier on May 4, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Your Leftist attacks notwithstanding, you haven’t begun to show that Republicans can match the Democrats for corruption, evil, Leftism and soft Communism, the perpetration of the Socialist Welfare state, the weakening of our military and national defense and the raising of taxes to confiscatory levels to pay for their massive, but worthless programs.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Ah, so you are saying Karl Marx wasn’t a Marxist…

Pardon your crudeness, but honesty in all things, including intellectual matters, is my watchword.
There are far, far worse things than having one’s nose “up the GOP’s xxx.”

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Yeah, five weeks ago, up the Charlie Crist had his nose GOP’s ass…

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM

You proved nothing. A child having a baby with a grown man is still a crime.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Why hasn’t this person been fired yet?

TrickyDick on May 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Because it is provocative, and provocation is interesting. Interesting gets eyes and ears glued to the television. Which of course results in higher ratings. This stuff is calculated, folks.

ObjectionSustained on May 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM

You proved nothing. A child having a baby with a grown man is still a crime.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:30 PM

A crime, no argument. Illegal, not necessarily, as I did prove.

And again, if that was a proven crime, they could have arrested him for it.

Instead, they f**king burned over 70 people to death, including two dozen children.

How about a little focus?

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Read his comment which I properly linked. He said maybe the parents consented.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Maybe???

You’re ready to condemn people with “maybe?”
Wouldn’t it have been a lot better to have let Child Protective Service deal with these problems and then, if they made the determination that abuse may have occurred to let these people have their day in court, as they’re guaranteed under the Bill of Rights?
Or is the death of a “child molester”(and the childrens’ father) along with the rest of the Mt. Carmel family tolerable because…”they deserved it?”
Which is what the Clinton Administration wanted every one to think.
The Branch Davidians had never harmed anyone before ATF agents tried to use armored force to storm their home supposedly to “serve a warrant.”
Apparently, the door bell wasn’t working.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

The original raid was conducted by the ATF based on a Firearms violation warrant (That’s what the F stands for in ATF). There was nothing about child abuse – period. So why would they raid a compound that they knew contained children the way they did. Why did a sniper shot an unarmed woman and child on Ruby Ridge based on the siege resulting from a skipped Firearms warrant.
In every case it was easy for the MSM to turn the victims into the bad guys, because they were “those crazy religious cultists” or “right wing extremist”.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

How dare you? F**k off.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Yeah, five weeks ago, up the Charlie Crist had his nose GOP’s ass…

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Depends on how you define “GOP.”
Not this GOP-er I can tell you: I’ve been backing Rubio for months.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:34 PM

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM

No kidding. Any mom tends to ask “what were those parents thinking” when they put their kids in a bad situation. How many times do you see some scumbag kill a kid, and you think “why was the mom dating that guy” or why did she let grandpa babysit when she knew he was a molester?

It is a guy momma instinct. I still believe Koresh was a molester, but no one should have died, and I don’t see anyone here wanting to pin a medal on Reno or Clinton for this one. Too many people like to jump on others without reading the whole thread.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Just the part you didn’t write.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM

It is easy to ignore your own mistakes, but lets jump on others for their different perspective.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM
How dare you? F**k off.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Hey, babe, you are the one who says if the parents consent, and the laws permit, it is okay….

…or that the parents consented. I’m not sure what the laws in Texas were at the time. I’m not saying it’s right, but it doesn’t mean it was forced. The presentation of these people as cultists comes into conflict with the fact that all the members of the church regularly mingled with people in Waco and the surrounding area. Cults don’t allow that.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Cults recognize ONE MAN (PERSON) who tells them what to do…it has nothing to do with “mingling”…

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Ah, so you are saying Karl Marx wasn’t a Marxist…

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM

I said the attacks were Leftist and they are.
I did not say Esthier is a Leftist, but if the shoe fits…

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM

I agree, other than with this one sub guy I try to make reasoned arguments and refrain from ad-hominem attacks.

Almost 20 years ago it was the crazy people at Waco, today its the dangerous returning veterans or the Teabaggers. For the MSM everyone who is not a metrosexual living in a big city is the real threat to this country.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Cults recognize ONE MAN (PERSON) who tells them what to do…it has nothing to do with “mingling”…

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM

There’s still nothing inherently illegal about being in a cult.

If abuse were going on, the ATF, FBI and armored tanks from Ft. Hood (released by Weasely Clark on the commands of Democrat Gov. Ann Richards) aren’t the way to deal with it.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Hey, babe, you are the one who says if the parents consent, and the laws permit, it is okay….

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Uh, no I didn’t, you lying creep, as the portion you quoted specifically states.

I’m not saying it’s right, but it doesn’t mean it was forced.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

I was only arguing whether the base definition of rape could be applied. I never once said it was okay, and for you to claim otherwise is reprehensible.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM

How dare you? F**k off.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Be a gentleman, no matter how offended you may feel from a lady’s remarks. Else you will prove her point.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM

It is easy to ignore your own mistakes, but lets jump on others for their different perspective.

Laura in Maryland on May 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM

I’m not ignoring my own mistakes, but you’re trying that old courtroom trick of “introducing facts not in evidence.”

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM

What a stupid b•i•t•c•h!!!!!!!!

Bubba Redneck on May 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Contesa needs to be fired. What a racist bigot. She disgusts me.

margategop517 on May 4, 2010 at 6:41 PM

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Just because she calls herself a lady does not mean that she is. her post was below the belt – and she knows it.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Be a gentleman, no matter how offended you may feel from a lady’s remarks. Else you will prove her point.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM

A woman who stoops to implying pedophilia in the person she’s debating with is no lady.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Ms. Brewer, you might want to get out a napkin as there is still a little bit of BS on the side of your lower lip.

Honestly, could she say anything more over the top than that??

itzWicks on May 4, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Unfortunately this young lady is echoing the thoughts, prayers and hopes of the President, cabinet, White House staff, and every Democratic member of the house and senate-plus perhaps even a few Rinos (Crist?) as well.

Think about that. Rooting for the terrorist to be a white guy. That’s not racist?

MaiDee on May 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I’m not saying it’s right, but it doesn’t mean it was forced.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Respectfully, force is not required for the act to be rape. Is a woman or a child ever going to be equal in strength to a man?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I’m not saying it’s right, but it doesn’t mean it was forced.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

If you con’t have consent from the FEMALE you are having sex with, it is FORCED.

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:45 PM

……I always give consent.

blatantblue on May 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Respectfully, force is not required for the act to be rape. Is a woman or a child ever going to be equal in strength to a man?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Get over yourself!
The Virgin Mary was thought to be 14 when she gave birth to Jesus.
(This age of consent, majority/minority thing is a modern concept of a more enlightened age where women have careers and don’t think about becoming mothers until they’re 35.)
That being said, there is no evidence at all that statutory rape or pedophilia was going on at Mt. Carmel.
None.
And survivors testify that Koresh and his wives(!) were devoted parents and that the children were happy and as well-adjusted as can be hoped for in that shelted, highly doctrinaire environment which, by the way, was their perfect right in this free country to have.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Which part of the definition of RAPE don’t you understand?

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Respectfully, force is not required for the act to be rape.

True, but then it’s a specific kind of rape, rather than the generic term. And as I demonstrated, according to the law, whether you agree with it or not, because sex is had does not make it rape. Does it make it morally repugnant and disgusting? You bet. However, if there was hard evidence of sexual abuse, why didn’t they attempt to charge him?

Is a woman or a child ever going to be equal in strength to a man?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Regarding a woman, I’d take the opportunity to point out that an armed woman is as strong or stronger than any man. ;)

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

If you con’t have consent from the FEMALE you are having sex with, it is FORCED.

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:45 PM

According to the law, which I did not make, but did link to, it may not be.

Don’t you dare take out your frustration with bad law on me by implying pedophilia on my part.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

The reason we have laws about consent is that children do not have the ability to make the decision in the way a rational adult would. You need to get over yourself. Sex with a child is wrong, it doesn’t matter what the law is. I am talking about morality.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:51 PM

A woman who stoops to implying pedophilia in the person she’s debating with is no lady.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Where I come from, we treat all women as ladies, even when they infuriate us. In this instance, moreover, I saw no implication of pedophilia on her part, but that you inferred same is a mystery to me.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM

(This age of consent, majority/minority thing is a modern concept of a more enlightened age where women have careers and don’t think about becoming mothers until they’re 35.)

i wonder

blatantblue on May 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM

“Outdated bigotry”. Has bigotry ever been morally acceptable? This person is just stupid and probably dosen’t have a coherent thought in her head.

watson007 on May 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:51 PM

I agree – rape and/or sex with a minor is legally and morally wrong.

So assuming that it was NOT happening (and there is no legal proof), do you think that the government used excessive (and I mean APC level excessive) force to serve a simple warrant? If you do, what do you think that says about how liberals see the internal right wing threat compared to the external multicultural threat from radical Islam?

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

It takes a TEA Party’er to get her excited!
Whose gonna volunteer?

Cybergeezer on May 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM

those dang mothers waiting til theyre 35

blatantblue on May 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Here is all I know: I don’t worry about Big Brother, you can see anything I do. I don’t worry about warrants, come on in. Would I shoot armed agents of the law? No.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Where I come from, we treat all women as ladies, even when they infuriate us. In this instance, moreover, I saw no implication of pedophilia on her part, but that you inferred same is a mystery to me.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 6:54 PM

I bet you $10 I can find a crack-whore who will give you permission to have sex with her underage daughter…

…are you interested?

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Hard to believe that a broad this dumd can generate so many comments;
ANN IN CENTRAL ARKANSAS, YOU HAVE POSSIBILITIES!!!!!!!

Cybergeezer on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

The reason we have laws about consent is that children do not have the ability to make the decision in the way a rational adult would. You need to get over yourself. Sex with a child is wrong, it doesn’t matter what the law is. I am talking about morality.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:51 PM

I agree with all of that, but this doesn’t have anything to do with what happened at Waco.
You live in TX–we were treated to live coverage of this horrible siege on TV here in Dallas.
How can you give the Clinton Administration and Janet Reno such a pass on this?!?
Vince Foster committed suicide (if he, indeed, did) because Hillary made him handle it and he couldn’t take the guilt.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Thank you, you have succinctly expressed your depth of understanding about the issue.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Regarding a woman, I’d take the opportunity to point out that an armed woman is as strong or stronger than any man. ;)

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM

God made all men, but it took Mr Colt to make all men equal. I love that line.

DFCtomm on May 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Here is all I know: I don’t worry about Big Brother, you can see anything I do. I don’t worry about warrants, come on in. Would I shoot armed agents of the law? No.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Would you shoot back if they got up on the 2nd story of your home and started shooting in your bedroom window first?
Because that’s basically what happened in Waco.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Here is all I know: I don’t worry about Big Brother, you can see anything I do. I don’t worry about warrants, come on in.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Glad to see you value your rights.

…do I really need an /s tag?

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM

I bet you $10 I can find a crack-whore who will give you permission to have sex with her underage daughter…

…are you interested?

ladyingray on May 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM

All I gotta say is; I’m so glad I don’t live in your neighborhood, honey.
Take your computer and move.

Cybergeezer on May 4, 2010 at 7:03 PM

I don’t worry about warrants, come on in. Would I shoot armed agents of the law? No.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

You should always worry about warrants and who you let into your home.

If they come in armed to serve a warrant on your private property, you’ve got a police state.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 7:06 PM

The most mortifying thing about this discussion is that Jenfidel and I are in agreement.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 6:59 PM

So, she asked a satirical question. One might even assert that it was rhetorical in nature. Classic debate technique, if you ask me. Maybe a little baiting of the opponent, but certainly not an implication of impropriety.

Your taking it so personally argues a lack of wit which I find surprising in someone of your caliber.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Yes, I watched wall to wall coverage on the incident. I was 19 years old. I saw ATF officials gunned down and saw 51 days of the seige where some parents made the decision to come out with their children. Were we really supposed to walk away and say, well, I guess y’all just get about your business?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 7:08 PM

She just got banned because of it.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 7:10 PM

So, she asked a satirical question. One might even assert that it was rhetorical in nature. Classic debate technique, if you ask me.

TXUS on May 4, 2010 at 7:08 PM

I don’t ask you. It’s a scurrilous and offensive tactic, and far from the first time it’s been leveled on this site.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:11 PM

The most mortifying thing about this discussion is that Jenfidel and I are in agreement.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM

It’s truly a beautiful thing to behold. :)

Diane on May 4, 2010 at 7:11 PM

She just got banned because of it.

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 7:10 PM

I just noticed the remark is gone as well.

I’ll reference it no further, then.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

The most mortifying thing about this discussion is that Jenfidel and I are in agreement.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Politics! Strange bedfellows! HaHa!

DFCtomm on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

It’s truly a beautiful thing to behold. :)

Diane on May 4, 2010 at 7:11 PM

You mock my disgrace.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

Were we really supposed to walk away and say, well, I guess y’all just get about your business?

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Yes, then charge Koresh and anyone else involved with killing the ATF agents and take the tanks and soldiers away.
He was going to have to come out of the compound at some point and it would have been sufficient to have the sheriff bring him in.
(Ever heard the Waco sheriff on this, BTW?
He had a good working relationship with Koresh, too.)

Those people were going about their business in freedom, harming no-one until the AFT raid was staged on them like an armed military siege of an enemy camp.

Jenfidel on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

TXMomof3 on May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM

What you did not see was american citizens gunned down on the other side, mothers cradling their infant children who were in pain from the CS gas (they had no masks for infants) and people when tried to run out of a burning building being shot all because they were under suspicion to have violated firearms laws. The penalty, if they had been alive to go to court, would have been less than 10 years.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

The Branch Davidians

History. Hopefully everyone learned from that experience and moved on.

jeanie on May 4, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Which ‘she’ got banned, and why?

Liam on May 4, 2010 at 7:17 PM

I am seriously thinking of bringing a libel and slander suit against her. I am a person that goes to as many tea parties as I can in my area and have been in DC several times. Would I have a leg to stand on?

Eyvonne on May 4, 2010 at 7:18 PM

The Branch Davidians

History. Hopefully everyone learned from that experience and moved on.

jeanie on May 4, 2010 at 7:14 PM

9/11

History. Hopefully everyone learned from that experience and moved on.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM

What really puzzles me is why the media is so superficial and vapid.

What’s up with that?

AnninCA on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Because they’re liberals, Ann, and all that goes with the mindset. Liberalism is much more than a political movement, though libs frame every matter in the political. Pick your topic, and tell us what the Left doesn’t consider a political matter.

Liam on May 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM

One day, heaven forbid, a bomb just might blow this nitwit to pieces and the perpetrators aren’t going to give a rat’s rear about her compassion for their race, religion, whatever.

The Zoo Keeper on May 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM

You mock my disgrace.

MadisonConservative on May 4, 2010 at 7:13 PM

*singsKumbaya*

Diane on May 4, 2010 at 7:24 PM

What’s amazing about this is she’s bummed because she didn’t want certain people with certain “beliefs” to be “written off” – meaning she didn’t want to see Muslims tainted and shunned.

It’s perfectly okay, of course – to taint and shun Christians or Tea Baggers. The press can demonize them of course – but never the Mohammadans who force women to cover themselves – oh no! Never them!!

HondaV65 on May 4, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Mark7788 says,

“Contessa Brewer dropped out of journalism school. One can only guess how she made it to her position on a national show.”

It doesn’t take much of an imagination. One look at those pouty lips and you’ve pretty much got your answer, Mark7788.

AcronisF on May 4, 2010 at 7:39 PM

I’m so out of it I never heard of Contessa Brewer…

Seriously… Couldn’t pick her out of a police line up…

Which speaks volumes of her “stature” in “journalism”…

Khun Joe on May 4, 2010 at 7:46 PM

What really puzzles me is why the media is so superficial and vapid.

What’s up with that?

AnninCA on May 4, 2010 at 6:27 PM

The irony in this post is ASTOUNDING.

fossten on May 4, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Dang… You mean it wasn’t a white guy who looked to be about 40? Sh*te… I was hoping it was some 65 year old teabagger who looked really, REALLY good for his age. Just thinkin that maybe all the protesting and marching was actin like some kind’a youth/age reversal thing-a-ma-bob./sarc
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On a personal note; the slut in the audio/video at the top of the page should never be allowed to enjoy a peaceful meal at a public eatery again… Ever. Ask for her autograph, and then mention as you walk away how nice it will look taped inside the porta-pottie urinal at the next Tea Party… Stuff like that… You know good old fashioned bigotry chauvinism…/no tag required cause it’s not sarc

RalphyBoy on May 4, 2010 at 7:55 PM

It doesn’t take much of an imagination. One look at those pouty lips and you’ve pretty much got your answer, Mark7788.

AcronisF on May 4, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Many people place the blame on white guilt, but I don’t think it’s that alone. Why is it that the people who seems the most effortlessly successful, like Brewer, are the most hard left, and always ready to give your money to down trodden. Do they feel they don’t deserve what they have been given?

DFCtomm on May 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM

……I always give consent.

blatantblue on May 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM

I’m sure that the older gentlemen are appreciative.

thomasaur on May 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM

9

/11

History. Hopefully everyone learned from that experience and moved on.

dpierson on May 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM

The Obama election. History. Hopefully everyone learns from that experience and moves on.

jeanie on May 4, 2010 at 8:18 PM

If she was banned it won’t be permanent.

jeanie on May 4, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Contessa, DKos, the Du, and our trolls are bummin.

CWforFreedom on May 4, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Let the fate of LIG show that some commenters and members of the Green Room are protected species.

thomasaur on May 4, 2010 at 8:23 PM

It figures that a low intelligence network like NBC, and/or MSNBC would hire and retain another small thinking talking head!

byteshredder on May 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM

If she was banned it won’t be permanent.

jeanie on May 4, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Who do you know that was banned and then unbanned?

katy on May 4, 2010 at 8:32 PM

I’m not impressed nor surprised.

whiskeytango on May 4, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Given the tone on this thread I can only imagine the hate mail this woman is getting and she’ll likely read some of it on the air to show how nasty we Tea Party conservatives are.

Still, she pretty much deserves all the grief she’s getting for being so stupid but the MSM is really good about spinning that sort of thing back at people.

Yakko77 on May 4, 2010 at 8:34 PM

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