Two new polls: Support for Arizona’s immigration law over 60%

posted at 7:20 pm on May 3, 2010 by Allahpundit

CBS, spinning like a gyroscope, describes the number who support the new law as a “slim majority.” Let’s see:

Fifty-one percent of those surveyed say the law, which critics say essentially mandates racial profiling, takes the right approach, and nine percent say it should go even further.

Thirty-six percent say the law goes too far.

There are plenty of concerns about the law — half say it’s “very likely” to lead to racial profiling (32 percent say “somewhat likely”) and 78 percent think it’ll burden cops — and yet, six in 10 say they’re either in favor of it as is or that it should even go further. Translation: People are tired enough of porous borders that they’re willing to try even those laws about which they have misgivings. Which, actually, is the point of Ross Douthat’s op-ed in the Times today. If you’re pro-immigrant, the best thing you can do is to lobby the feds to get a handle on the border. The more voters are reassured that they can control the number of people admitted, the more likely they’ll be to increase the limit on admissions and to expand it to far-flung countries.

Another new poll, from Bellwether Research, shows 62 percent support for Arizona’s law even though the question overstates how far the statute goes (it doesn’t let cops detain “anyone suspected of being in the country illegally,” only those who have already been detained on suspicion of committing a crime). Given the breadth and depth of media demagoguery on this subject, I can only wonder how high support would be if ill-informed critics weren’t on cable 24/7 screeching about nascent Nazism. 70 percent, maybe? Better yet, how high would support be if the media was covering amnesty-shill violence with the same degree of interest as they do the crank element at tea-party rallies? Mary Katharine Ham has a round-up of incidents over the past week, but if you’re not in the mood for following links, I recommended checking out KFI’s photo gallery of the choicest signs from the rallies instead. My favorite: “We will shoot more police in Arizona until we get free!”

Update: An e-mailer tells me the “we will shoot more police” sign could be fake. Fair enough, and duly noted. Follow the link anyway.


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shorebird on May 4, 2010 at 2:29 AM

With your legal skills you should accept a job at a Taco stand.

MB4 on May 3, 2010 at 9:24 PM

No thanks. I already have one with a federal judge.

So what do you do?

crr6 on May 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM

As long as we’re playing make believe….I have a job as QB of an NFL team. This is fun.

angryed on May 4, 2010 at 7:26 AM

Actually, angryed, I wish I could be more dubious. If it’s in the 9th Circus, would you be surprised?

SDN on May 4, 2010 at 8:30 AM

from your link

My friends, despite what CNN and the rest are telling you, Barack Obama is nothing more than an old school African Colonial who is on his way to turning this country into one of the developing nations that you learn about on the National Geographic Channel

Now, what’s your point?
The Race Card on May 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Race Card,

I’m not sure what your complaint is here other than the fact that the paragraph you cite mentions Africa in it.

You seem to assume that we all see the same racism that you do, but you never really make the case. If you want to play that game, and throw out random clips from the article, here’s one for you (re: the author):

Before I continue, I need to say this: I am a first generation born West African-American woman whose parents emigrated to the U.S. in the 1970′s from the country now called Nigeria. I travel to Nigeria frequently. I see myself as both a proud American and as a proud Igbo (the tribe that we come from — also sometimes spelled Ibo).

Now, what was your point?

If I’m reading you right — which is a big ‘if’, because I’m really not sure why you seem to see racism behind every bush — then is no one allowed to draw comparisons between President Obama and anyone on who might happen to be Black/African because doing so is immediately racist?

Doesn’t that seem like a bit of a ridiculous standard?Wouldn’t that have made every comparison of any white person to another white person racist as well? Some have compared Chris Christie to Ronald Reagan…well, clearly those folks are just RACISTS!

BlueCollarAstronaut on May 4, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Sorry, I can’t get pass the:

“Next What Gas Chamber First” sign.

Is that a LITERAL translation from Spanish?

I have feeling it should say “First the gas chamber, what next?” The really should send these signs to an editor before printing.

xax on May 4, 2010 at 10:56 AM

No, it’s stupid. Our law enforcement officers should be able to allocate their resources and time based on their own professional judgment. They should feel pressured by citizen suits to ignore more pressing concerns in order to arrest a few guys from Home Depot.

crr6 on May 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM

I’m sorry. I know I’m late, but I just can’t let this stupidity stand. Here are some main parts from the law

Prohibits law enforcement officials and law enforcement agencies of this state or counties, municipalities and political subdivisions from restricting or limiting the enforcement of the federal immigration laws to less than the full extent permitted by federal law.

Wow, so it actually requires lawful state officials to actually follow federal law! How absolutely horrific! /sarc

Requires officials and agencies to reasonably attempt to determine the immigration status of a person involved in a lawful contact where reasonable suspicion exists regarding the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

“Lawful contact” is currently being “fixed”, with the more focused “lawful stop, detention or arrest”.

So, in other words… law enforcement is still focusing on crimes (completely proving your assertion WRONG), and arranging for deportation through ICE for those criminals who are here illegally.

So what have we learned from this thread?…

crr6 either couldn’t pass a basic 8th grade reading proficiency test, or lied about reading the law. If we take his/her assertions about working for a judge as truthful, I can only deduce that he/she puts their personal prejudices ABOVE the law. And I have very little respect for that type of person…

dominigan on May 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM

MB4, platypus, 2Brave2Bscared, SKYFOX, Unclemrgsol are apprentice-racialists. Actually, 2Brave is HA valedictorian. Where’s RightWinged when you need him?

The Race Card on May 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Broad brush strokes TRC.

Not sure what any of these commenters have done, but please do not paint unclesmrgol with said brush.

rukiddingme on May 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM

MB4, platypus, 2Brave2Bscared, SKYFOX, Unclemrgsol are apprentice-racialists. Actually, 2Brave is HA valedictorian. Where’s RightWinged when you need him?

The Race Card on May 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Dear Knucklehead,

Please learn the difference between an ethnocentrist and a racist. Perhaps parse out the difference between a ridiculously artificial construct like “race” and a more useful one like culture.

kthxbai

TheUnrepentantGeek on May 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM

The dirtiest game in this dirty argument is the use of the word ‘immigrant’ instead of illegal alien, in the news, in op-eds, and especially in poll questions

By substituting a word for legal resident of the United States working to obtain citizenship, for flouters of our border law, pollsters can conjure up better numbers

Despite the crooked semantics ploy, they are still polling high numbers, which means a truly honest poll about support for a State law concerning illegal aliens would be astronomical

The ploy is weakening. The public now holds mixed understanding of the word ‘immigrant’ as it keeps being applied on television to people seen climbing fences and demanding Spanish as a second language

Learning English has always been an immigration requirement, with exceptions being made for extremely elderly, or mentally impeded family members being brought in legally. The obligation to learn English was on the immigrant, not the State, as citizenship had to be earned

entagor on May 4, 2010 at 2:38 PM

FloatingRock on May 3, 2010 at 7:57 PM

No, I am saying that they were three guys who said to themselves, “hey, let’s go loiter around the Home Depot until we get harassed and then file a law suit.”

azkenreid on May 4, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Illegal:
1. Forbidden by law or statute
2. Contrary to or forbidden by official rules or regulations
3. An illegal immigrant
Questions?

LarryG on May 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Dear Knucklehead,

Please learn the difference between an ethnocentrist and a racist. Perhaps parse out the difference between a ridiculously artificial construct like “race” and a more useful one like culture.

kthxbai

TheUnrepentantGeek on May 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Now that’s the stuff, well-played.

Your thoughts are on target. I don’t know that it can be fleshed out without hijacking this thread, but I enjoyed reading what you wrote. I had actually forgotten what important discourse felt like. Hopefully, I’ll be back soon enough with a reply that you catch it.

The Race Card on May 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM

So, in other words… law enforcement is still focusing on crimes (completely proving your assertion WRONG), and arranging for deportation through ICE for those criminals who are here illegally.

dominigan on May 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM

By “crimes” you mean traffic stops, right?

Ok then.

crr6 on May 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM

From the L.A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by US taxpayers.
5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal immigrants. 9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish Speaking.

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).

(All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth results from immigration and over 90% in California, Florida , and New York .
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.
WHY CAN’T WE SEND THEM HOME ?

LarryG on May 5, 2010 at 1:30 PM

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