Krauthammer: So, that KSM trial in New York probably isn’t happening now, huh?

posted at 10:17 pm on May 3, 2010 by Allahpundit

A minor point at the moment given the gravity of the threat posed on Saturday, but a good one nonetheless. Where I think CK might be wrong is his theory that this’ll lead to Gitmo staying open an extra year or two as well. After they back down on a civilian trial for KSM, Team Barry will need some sort of political victory in this area to atone to its base. Not that they’re getting any heat about it — you’re more likely to see lefty protesters heckling Obama over “don’t ask, don’t tell” these days than the supposed atrocity that is Guantanamo — but as Ben Smith recently noted, Obama’s a guy who likes to double down when challenged. In fact, given the certainty of big GOP gains in the fall, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the White House start a new push to close Gitmo and transfer the prisoners to a mainland facility this summer. Sure, the politics will be dicey, but the bigger the looming Republican tidal wave, the less congressional Democrats have to lose by playing ball. Their huge majority will be gone in six months; why not put it to use? Worst-case scenario, I think there’ll be some sort of deal after the midterms but before the new Congress is seated, when all the lame-duck Blue Dogs can “vote their conscience” or whatever.

Needless to say, there’s no guarantee yet that the NYC plotter is a foreign terrorist so Gitmo might not even be in the picture. In fact, steadfast Fox News lefty Bob Beckel has his eye on right-wing militiamen as being the real culprits… Click the image to watch.


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In fact, steadfast Fox News lefty Bob Beckel has his eye on right-wing militiamen as being the real culprits

Just like that tea-bagging maniac at Ft. Hood.

Purple Fury on May 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM

The KSM trial in NYC was toast long before this weekend.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM

noted fool Bob Beckel, you mean

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Honest to Pete, I’d love to have CK’s puppies. Now I mean that very nicely, very cleanly, but I do think the world of him!

Chewy the Lab on May 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Worst-case scenario, I think there’ll be some sort of deal after the midterms but before the new Congress is seated

My biggest concern since last August (when the hopenchange express started to come off the rails) was that Pelosi would go into full Kamikaze mode after the 2010 election.

I figured that’s when they would ultimately pass ObamaCare. Who knows what they’ll actually cram through.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM

It’s amazing that there seems to be no sense of urgency in this Adminiatration. We’ve got terrorists at large, Nashville under water, and a massive environmental disaster and this asshat is making jokes.

Denverslim on May 3, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Fortunately, Beckel is wrong. White, “right-wing” extremists know how to build bombs that work.

exception on May 3, 2010 at 10:25 PM

but as Ben Smith recently noted, Obama’s a guy who likes to double down when challenged.

That Ben Smith is one sharp guy. /

I don’t think Obama pushes closing Gitmo until after the Nov 2 annihilation. During that interim, the defeated Dems have nothing to lose–in their minds–so they’ll go for broke. After the Nov elections, Nov 3 to January 2011 is the period that has my concern.

conservative pilgrim on May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Needless to say, there’s no guarantee yet that the NYC plotter is a foreign terrorist so Gitmo might not even be in the picture.

Doesn’t matter. This was almost another terrorist attack in New York City, international or domestic. It reminds people of violence and targets here at home. Moving terrorists to American soil will become political suicide.

amerpundit on May 3, 2010 at 10:27 PM

I saw Dr. K the other night at a Washington National home game! It made my night! He was motoring along in his electric wheelchair… Quickly…

Khun Joe on May 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM

“Fox News lefty Bob Beckel has his eye on right-wing militiamen as being the real culprits…”

He won’t learn his lesson until Obowma’s goons are dragging him off to the killing fields because he is of no more use to them anymore…

Seven Percent Solution on May 3, 2010 at 10:29 PM

I figured that’s when they would ultimately pass ObamaCare. Who knows what they’ll actually cram through.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Nothing is more dangerous than a cornered animal; with no way out, it will do anything for freedom.

Similarly; out of power pols with nothing to lose will see themselves as cornered.

Cap and trade.
Amnesty.
Card Check.
Furthering the Fascist agenda, in any way they can.

It’s all on the table, either as soon as they see the approaching train, or after they see that they can’t get out of the tunnel.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Khun Joe on May 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM

An amazing individual we’re lucky to have on our side. He’s an economist, political scientist, and medical doctor.

amerpundit on May 3, 2010 at 10:30 PM

exception on May 3, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Examples?

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Khun Joe on May 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM

He wrote a pretty good piece a few weeks ago about how much he liked going to Nationals games, knowing there wasn’t much chance of them ever being any good.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:29 PM

While Scott Brown’s election didn’t stop ObamaCare, it will probably stop a few monstrosities at the end of the year.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Bob Beckel could not find his @ss with both hands.

I can’t believe Fox gives him air time.

tru2tx on May 3, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Well,Hopey/Changey is a sympathizer,its that simple,
and its that scary!!!

Again,this is from Obama`s lips!!

Obama speaks at La Raza Event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_GO3YAdEA

canopfor on May 3, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Will Obama get the message that Krauthammer alludes to? I seriously doubt it as he is still acting the role of a community organizer rather than the role of the president. He and most of his staff are totally out of their element so one should expect them to continue to stumble blindly into situations for which they don’t have a clue how to deal with them.

docdave on May 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I’ll be a bit more dire and say there won’t be a trial in NYC because, uh, there may not be a NYC by the time the trial comes around.

SouthernGent on May 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

He won’t learn his lesson until Obowma’s goons are dragging him off to the killing fields because he is of no more use to them anymore…

Seven Percent Solution on May 3, 2010 at 10:29 PM

He won`t even realize it then, my guess.

bluemarlin on May 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

When you resort to citing CK, then you know that the terrorists have won.

No, seriously.

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Khun Joe on May 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM

I am incredibly jealous. He’s the one pundit I’d love to meet.

What he has lost in physical ability, he has made up for in mental prowess and nimbleness.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

CK needs to leave the room. If he thinks Obama is going to change his plans of putting bush and the USa on public trial over a failed car bomb he is taking too many meds.

CK has been very wrong very often lately

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Bob Beckel could not find his @ss with both hands.

I can’t believe Fox gives him air time.

tru2tx on May 3, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Token Village Idiot!

rebuzz on May 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

While Scott Brown’s election didn’t stop ObamaCare, it will probably stop a few monstrosities at the end of the year.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Continuing to be thankful for Scott’s election; looking forward to: Perry for Congress (replacing Delahunt) and Hudak (replacing Tierney.)

For MA, even that much gain would be stellar.

Perry just led an unsucessful but politically important attempt to require MA to check immigration status before granting benefits to anyone. Got lots of dem support, but not enough for a win.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

When you resort to citing CK, then you know that the terrorists have won.

No, seriously.

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:38 PM

There’s another CK, by the way, McLeod.

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

CK needs to leave the room. If he thinks Obama is going to change his plans of putting bush and the USa on public trial over a failed car bomb he is taking too many meds.

CK has been very wrong very often lately

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

i thought it was KSM.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Obama is arrogant and sympathetic enough to allow Holder to continue with his plans.

kingsjester on May 3, 2010 at 10:43 PM

i thought it was KSM.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

If you think that you have not been paying attention.

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:43 PM

exception on May 3, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Examples?

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Nice answer.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:45 PM

I got 9 hours and 15 mins to go before I can pull the lever in my states primaries tommorrow.

I’m counting down like its christmas time. the beginning of the end to Obama and the socialists. I can not wait

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:45 PM

There’s another CK, by the way, McLeod.

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

2 idiots don’t make a right

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Oh God, I forgot……

……………;-)

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:43 PM

okay just point me in the right direction now

Kraut is saying the KSM trial isn’t happening now, but you’re talking about Bush and “the USA” on trial. we obviously aren’t talking about the same things.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Bob Beckel could not find his @ss with both hands.

tru2tx on May 3, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Yes he can. He talks out of it all the time.

Aviator on May 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

i thought it was KSM.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

If you think that you have not been paying attention.

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:43 PM

To: unseen; this was probably untagged sarc.
To: blatantblue; not being all stalker-ish, but say hi to Baz if you talk to her.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM

I can name that tune in ONE note.

hillbillyjim on May 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM

I got 9 hours and 15 mins to go before I can pull the lever in my states primaries tommorrow.

I’m counting down like its christmas time. the beginning of the end to Obama and the socialists. I can not wait

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:45 PM</blockquote

Christmas in November will be a great thing!

bluemarlin on May 3, 2010 at 10:48 PM

In fact, steadfast Fox News lefty Bob Beckel has his eye on right-wing militiamen as being the real culprits…
===================================================

Interesting,HomeLand Security thinks so too.

DHS- Right Wing Extremists Report

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23205377/DHS-Right-Wing-Extremists-Report

canopfor on May 3, 2010 at 10:48 PM

The KSM trial in NYC was toast long before this weekend.

BadgerHawk on May 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Not really..Holder was quoted 2 weeks ago as still not ruling it out.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/holder-trial-911-defendants-york-attorney-general-defends/story?id=10374131

Apr. 14, 2010

During a Wednesday hearing in which he defended the Obama administration’s record on prosecuting terror suspects, Attorney General Eric Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee that a New York City trial for 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was still an option.

Asked by Senator Jeff Sessions, R..-Ala, ranking minority member on the committee, when the Obama administration would decide on a venue for the trial, Holder said, “New York City is not off the table.”

The adults are in charge now. I have to remember that!

Del Dolemonte on May 3, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Kraut is saying the KSM trial isn’t happening now, but you’re talking about Bush and “the USA” on trial. we obviously aren’t talking about the same things.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:46 PM

LOL…..The reason Obama wants to try KSM in public is to put BUSH, his terror policies, his admin and by extention the USA on trial and if I know the left they will start it right before the elections. You think this is about KSM? LOL

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:51 PM

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:51 PM

so he’s going to put KSM on trial, then put Bush on trial for treating KSM poorly.

so the public will relive 9/11, see KSM for who he is, then Obama will sail through with a with hunt of Boosh for dunking KSM.

yea i dont see that happening.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM

then again, youre also betting November being the “end” of the socialists and Obama. too much confidence in that, among other things.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM

LOL…..The reason Obama wants to try KSM in public is to put BUSH, his terror policies, his admin and by extention the USA on trial and if I know the left they will start it right before the elections. You think this is about KSM? LOL

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:51 PM

It is called a show trail. Obama, gates and holder have already saidKSM will be found guilty. If so why the trail? KSM is not going to be on trail he is going to be the means they use to place the Bush admin and their polices on trail.. his guilt has already been fortold.

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

The boy-king cares only for his agenda, and he will pursue it relentlessly, even as the polls say otherwise. He is peevish and mean-spirited when thwarted. He’s had a free ride on the comet, and he won’t like the inexorable law of “must come down”. I continue to be amazed at the arc of his career, and the error of his ways.
Randy

williars on May 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

then again, youre also betting November being the “end” of the socialists and Obama. too much confidence in that, among other things.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Yeap its offical you can’t read. I said the “beginning of the end”

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Asked by Senator Jeff Sessions, R..-Ala, ranking minority member on the committee, when the Obama administration would decide on a venue for the trial, Holder said, “New York City is not off the table.”

The adults are in charge now. I have to remember that!

Del Dolemonte on May 3, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Holder got cut off at the knees by his boss, in the name of political expediency; now, he’s the guy who refuses to admit his prom date dumped him, even after she’s on youtube with some other guy in the parking lot, shedding clothes.

massrighty on May 3, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Yeap its offical you can’t read. I said the “beginning of the end”

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 10:56 PM

beginning of the end implies you believe 2012 is gonna go our way too.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Beckel was just kidding Hannity witht the militiamen…but he claimed that the faulty equipment for the BP debakle is Halliburton’s…thus the O-admin are going to push “it’s Bush/Cheney’s fault that the gulf is full of oil now”.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM

You really think the 41 Republicans in the Senate won’t simply filibuster anything the Dems try to do post election?

If we end up w/ a Republican House and 49+ Republican Senators (and I expect both), the Republicans currently in Congress will have absolutely nothing to lose by shutting down Congress until the new one is seated. So I expect that is what they’ll do.

Greg Q on May 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Sure, the politics will be dicey, but the bigger the looming Republican tidal wave, the less congressional Democrats have to lose by playing ball. Their huge majority will be gone in six months; why not put it to use?

So you think that all Dems are far left? All happy to fall on the sword against the will of the American people, as long as the Cause is furthered?

disa on May 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

beginning of the end implies you believe 2012 is gonna go our way too.

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:58 PM

No that is what YOU implied from the comment. I implied nothing about timeframes, dates etc. the beginning of the end means just that. It is a “beginning” of the “end” to the socialists.

A change in the status quo, a paradigm shift in thought/deeds.

when does that end come? Who knows.

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

noted fool Bob Beckel, you mean

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Afool cannotes he actually beleives what he is saying, Beckel is no fool, he’s been in the game a long time because he is fairly effective at his job. Being a shameless political hack.

Archimedes on May 3, 2010 at 11:08 PM

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM

well, if 2010 goes our way, and ’12 doesn’t, that has less to do with a real shift, and more to do with historical precedent

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM

So I expect that is what they’ll do.

Greg Q on May 3, 2010 at 11:03 PM

that depends. they will “allow” the things they want to pass like they allowed the $1.9 trillion debt ceiling to pass. Like they are allowing the finacial bailout to pass and Obamacare. The GOP could have gone nuclear and shut the Senate down at anytime. They could have gum up the works esp since the Mass election yet they allow these bills to continue to move forward.. the GOP in CONGRESS is as much statists as the dems in many ways esp the leadership. If they can pass these statists/socialists bills and have the dems take the blame they will

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 11:11 PM

well, if 2010 goes our way, and ‘12 doesn’t, that has less to do with a real shift, and more to do with historical precedent

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM

that depends on how Obama goverens from 2010 to 2012 now doesn’t it. If he morphs into a Clinton and governs form the middle its still shows that the shift occured form the outright socialism we have now.

Now if he goverens like he is at the moment and stills wins then you might have a point

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

Again,this is from Obama`s lips!!

Obama speaks at La Raza Event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_GO3YAdEA

canopfor on May 3, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Nice clip, I hadn’t seen that one before. I’ll ad it to my collection for when Libs tell protest that he never said such a thing. I love showing them how uninformed they are.

Thanks!

Archimedes on May 3, 2010 at 11:14 PM

Damn typos! The Glennlivet it starting to show.

Archimedes on May 3, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Yup, its getting out of hand now. Sheesh.

Archimedes on May 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM

unseen on May 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

well either way lets hope it IS the end, and not merely a beginning!

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 11:17 PM

If the KSM trial is held in NYC, I wonder if they will re-enact it for the jury. They’d have to substitute another tall building though.

darwin-t on May 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM

So Gibbs used the word terrorize? Really? Shouldn’t that man-caused disasterize or something? Gibbs is going to get the evil clown look from someone for that.

I guess the word terror, or any variation thereof, can only be used if they’re trying to pin it on those evvillll people on the right.

well either way lets hope it IS the end, and not merely a beginning!

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 11:17 PM

I’ll ditto the thinking above.

God help us until Obama is voted out.

PalmettoPatriot on May 3, 2010 at 11:49 PM

noted fool Bob Beckel, you mean

blatantblue on May 3, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Yeah, how did that 1984 Mondale campaign work out?

Oh yeah, major landslide.

Thanks Bob! Serving Conservatives covertly since 1984.

heh

/s

alohapundit on May 3, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Worst-case scenario, I think there’ll be some sort of deal after the midterms but before the new Congress is seated, when all the lame-duck Blue Dogs can “vote their conscience” or whatever.

However socialist Blue Dogs are when their back is against the wall, this just isn’t how they are going to act. You are parroting some right-wing line without any thought or evidence. 9 out of 10 will not vote against our security. I believe it essential to be fair to groups like the Blue Dogs. In a democracy, so much depends on the flakes.

thuja on May 4, 2010 at 12:04 AM

The original Biden proposal included Obama playing the role of Commodus and slaying a secretly injured KSM in Yankee Stadium, but the idea was shot down by Justice.

R Square on May 4, 2010 at 12:11 AM

Teabagger Jihadist named Bubba White Shahzad Faisel caught at JFK heading to Arizona Dubai.

profitsbeard on May 4, 2010 at 1:57 AM

…thus the O-admin are going to push “it’s Bush/Cheney’s fault that the gulf is full of oil now”.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM

That little puppy dog won’t hunt; Big Evil Halliburton only pumped cement; the Articulate One already said “Let me be clear”, so BP is the evil AntiChrist after all.

“Let me be clear. BP is responsible … …BP will pay the bill.” —– the Articulate One

This is before any finding from ANY investigation has even reached the formative stage, but….goddamnit, the man is SO articulate and stuff...

hillbillyjim on May 4, 2010 at 1:57 AM

Ojesus’ hatred of everything capitalist is palpable; if you cannot see it in his words and deeds, then you are a DENIER.

Not the Algore make-believe kind of denier; the seriously, I can’t stand any more lies from Uncle Sugar kind.

God Bless America, and protect her from her enemies, foreign and domestic. I pray this in the name of the anti-Chicago, pro-Godliness Jesus of our prayers and teachings. Amen.

hillbillyjim on May 4, 2010 at 2:02 AM

Faisal Shahzad was arrested at 11:45 p.m. Monday night by Customs and Border Protection agents as he attempted to board an Emirates airlines flight to Dubai at New York’s JFK airport, Holder and other officials said.

“It is clear that the intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans,” Holder said.

Clearly a Beck fan.

rob verdi on May 4, 2010 at 5:41 AM

So this guy was a teabagger white guy, wasn’t that what Bloomberg said?

When you figure this bomber, who was made a citizen in 2009, as part of Obama’s Muslim kiss ass and make nice, out reach program … You have to wonder how many more sleepers made it into America?

My guess is we will find out, as our liar in chief continues his destructive ways.

Obama, liar since day one.

tarpon on May 4, 2010 at 6:37 AM

With all that going on if I were religious I would think that G-d hints Obama to stop bullying Israel, but in his relentless pursuit of new Holocaust our President reminds me Hitler who kept sending echelons of Jews to death camps when Germany was burning. Of course harming Israel does not distract Obama from harming America. He is multitasking.

finallyhere on May 4, 2010 at 7:01 AM

Hey now, Bob Beckel was Walter Mondale’s campaign manager, let’s give him the credit he is due!

khacha on May 4, 2010 at 7:57 AM

Beckel is a born loser. Nothing more, nothing less. One of the reasons I don’t watch Hannity very much. He has an affinity for this type of guest. Rightwing militia?? Naturalized Pakistani on a flight to Dubai? Beckel must be back on the sauce. Predictable leftwing nutjob lunacy.

volsense on May 4, 2010 at 8:26 AM

Can anyone tell me why Hannity puts Beckel on his “Great American Panel ?” I literally have to turn the channel. I think he is soo frickin full of himself. Last night he was telling jokes and he was the only one laughing at them…

sweet92169 on May 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Its a good thing Obama is the President, he’d never stand a chance in the private sector.

Speakup on May 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM

I still would not be surprised if this pompous administration still went ahead with this trial in NYC. They just don’t get it and they never will. Sorry, but they scare the HELL out of me.

I don’t know what it’s going to take for them to wake up.

shoregulls on May 4, 2010 at 10:23 AM