Arizona deputy shot with AK-47 by suspected illegal immigrant

posted at 9:51 pm on April 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

I mentioned this in an update to the Connie Mack post but it’s worth a post of its own given the national interest in the state’s new statute. Which, incidentally, wasn’t being enforced here: It doesn’t go into effect for 90 days, or possibly for much longer if opponents have their way.

The wound is apparently superficial, thank goodness.

Pinal County sheriff’s Lt. Tamatha Villar says the deputy suffered a superficial wound to his abdomen after being shot with an AK-47 assault rifle Friday afternoon.

Villar says the deputy was doing smuggling interdiction work and found bales of marijuana in the desert. He then encountered five suspected illegal immigrants, two armed with rifles, and was shot.

At last check, the suspects were shooting at police helicopters in hot pursuit. More from CNN:

Pinal County is located between Phoenix and Tuscon and has been described as a key transit point for illegal immigrants. Sheriff Paul Babeu told CNN that an estimated 80 percent of illegal immigrants eventually pass through his county along the way to other locations.

Critics of the new law have been demanding a fact pattern by which “reasonable suspicion” might lawfully arise. Well, this one seems promising: A desert search along a route known to be used by coyotes turns up illegal drugs, with further investigation revealing a group of people nearby. Under the circumstances, suspicion of a crime committed by illegals doesn’t seem so wingnutty. And, I emphasize, it’s just suspicion: Could be that these would-be cop-killers are bona fide U.S. citizens. But then, that’s what the law is for — to let cops ascertain status in dubious circumstances. Assuming they were all in a car on a suspected coyote route, were pulled over for speeding, and no one in the car could offer any address of U.S. residence, names of U.S. relatives, etc., shouldn’t “reasonable suspicion” obtain?


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I’m pretty sure we had cups before WWII.

Anyway, plenty of people immigrate to this country legally, and if they can do it, anyone can do it. It’s really not that hard unless you have absolutely nothing to offer.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 12:27 AM

You seem to think it is easy to immigrate here. IF it were easier, we would have less of a problem in Texas and Arizona.

Also, you have drunk coffee out of a cup designed by a poor immigrant named Laszlo Büch. You just didn’t appreciate it.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

Obviously the men were simply reacting to the deputy’s attempt to violate their civil rights and inquire about their citizenship.

R Square on May 1, 2010 at 2:27 AM

You seem to think it is easy to immigrate here.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

For educated law-abiding types, it is. These are not the people running across the desert, and you know it.

Also, you have drunk coffee out of a cup designed by a poor immigrant named Laszlo Büch. You just didn’t appreciate it.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

You don’t know anything about me or what I drink. I hate coffee.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 2:34 AM

Also, you have drunk coffee out of a cup designed by a poor immigrant named Laszlo Büch. You just didn’t appreciate it.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

What part of LEGAL aren’t you getting?

katy the mean old lady on May 1, 2010 at 2:34 AM

The world goes officially upside down when Americans face fines and potentially jail if they fail to provide proof of health insurance.

By contrast, illegal aliens will not be required to show proof of insurance or citizenship nor face any sanctions for failing to comply with the health insurance mandate yet will enjoy the benefit of free healthcare which the rest of us will be obliged to provide.

R Square on May 1, 2010 at 2:37 AM

The new Reid plan sez that EVERY AMERICAN should carry an ID card with fingerprints on a digital chip!

Just imagine, the best idea that the loonies can come up with is that instead of asking for documents from legal immigrants (which they are required to carry by US law,) they want ALL us LEGAL citizens to register and submit to “biometric registration.” So it is mean and nasty to ask for documents from illegals (which they don’t have) but it is OK to demand that the rest of us pay for a new biometric-ID card and present it whenever the government demands that we do so??????

These lefty-loonies are insane.

shorebird on May 1, 2010 at 3:00 AM

These lefty-loonies are insane.

shorebird on May 1, 2010 at 3:00 AM

Binary option: D.C. creatures are as delusional as they sound, or they think we are.

Tough call on this D.C. mob of sideshow freaks.

Who is John Galt on May 1, 2010 at 3:07 AM

So how to encourage legal workers? How about increasing the number allowed and making it easier to apply, like George Bush recommended a few years back?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM

We already have such laws allowing immigrants to come here legally to work. One such major law is called the Farm Workers Amnesty Program, instituted in the late 1980′s under President Ronald Reagan. I know, because I sponsored a young Mexican woman who was a seasonal farm worker under that program. She got her Green Card, but it took nearly 20 years of bureaucratic toe-dragging before she was finally able to become a fully legal U.S. Citizen.

Many of you Canadians just don’t seem to understand: It’s not a matter of Americans supporting legal immigration. It’s that we have existing laws which support this fully, that are not being enforced properly and in too many cases are being ignored. We support anyone who honors and respects our laws, and if they are patient and willing to go through the existing proscribed procedures to come here to work legally, good for them!

But we have, unfortunately, millions of foreigners who have come here illegally which are bankrupting our cities via free education that others pay taxes to support, and are bankrupting our hospitals and medical facilities in the same manner. What too many non-Americans don’t “get” is that we are simply incapable of support the rest of the world’s population in this manner as they stream across our borders illegally.

That, plus if many of those people completely ignore our laws, and we do not demand that they in fact honor our laws, then we are giving them blank checks to commit other crimes with impunity. Is that how Canada lets foreign immigrants enter its borders? I don’t think so! Laws are to be honored, regardless of the country, or chaos and crime run rampant. All we ask is that people obey our laws.

KendraWilder on May 1, 2010 at 4:11 AM

rogerb on April 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Checked the history books…I didn’t see photos of immigrants with AK-47′s coming by Ellis Island or turning New York into the kidnapping capitol of the world.

Maybe Ricky Martin, Seth MacFarlane. Linda Ronstadt and Shakira should try to understand that Americans don’t want to live in a northern version of Mexico.

And according to a lib on Fox half of all the babies being born here are brown. So aren’t we doing enough already?

IlikedAUH2O on May 1, 2010 at 5:56 AM

Romans first noticed a decline of law and order on the frontier.

Are you not entertained?

R Square on May 1, 2010 at 6:10 AM

By the way, when you enjoy your coffee tomorrow, thank an immigrant for designing the cup:
Born Laszlo Büch in present-day Ukraine in 1922,
AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM

Sorry but I don’t drink coffee and I don’t live in NYC.

Laszlo Büch immigrated here “Legally”, that has nothing to do with “Illegal Immigrants

Example:
Bank customers and Bank Robbers both do their business in a bank.

One is legal the other isn’t.

Should “Bank Robbers” be called “bank customers”?

There is a distinction tween “Legal Immigrants” and “Illegal Immigrants

One is Legal (The bank customer)
The other is Illegal (the bank robber).

Unless you’re an idiot this is easily understood.

DSchoen on May 1, 2010 at 6:14 AM

Peaceful.

erakis on May 1, 2010 at 6:40 AM

The new Reid plan sez that EVERY AMERICAN should carry an ID card with fingerprints on a digital chip!
Just imagine, the best idea that the loonies can come up with is that instead of asking for documents from legal immigrants (which they are required to carry by US law,) they want ALL us LEGAL citizens to register and submit to “biometric registration.” So it is mean and nasty to ask for documents from illegals (which they don’t have) but it is OK to demand that the rest of us pay for a new biometric-ID card and present it whenever the government demands that we do so??????
These lefty-loonies are insane.
shorebird on May 1, 2010 at 3:00 AM

It’s axiomatic that Government never actually solves problems but just makes them worse in an effort to embellish their power base, but that has to take the cake.

So let me get this straight:

It’s reminiscent of National Socialist Germany to require illegals to carry ID they are REQUIRED to carry, but it’s NOT if law-abiding citizens are required to carry ID Cards with Biometric registration?

Does the Nutzi-Left understand how utterly Insane and illogical they are sounding?

Colbyjack on May 1, 2010 at 7:41 AM

An argument for the legalization of drugs on a personal liberty basis is, I think, a good one. Progressives never did let the concept of product labeling reflecting the actual contents of a foodstuff or medication get much of anywhere before they passed the Harrison Stamp Act. Still, even in the few years there were only product labels, the use of narcotics started to decline in the US.

As for that making anything better, no, I don’t see that at all. The cartels of today differ in extreme ways from their predecessors of just a decade ago: they are linked to larger organized crime syndicates and to transnational terrorist organizations (FARC, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda). Human trafficking of individuals from the Mid-East via operators connected to larger organized crime syndicates and/or terrorist organizations makes the profit on that, per-person, far higher than just normal ‘illegal immigrant’ crossings. These ingenious operators, and there is no other word for it, have set up internal smuggling operations in the US and Canada to circumvent our own tax laws via grey goods commerce, trafficking in cigarettes to avoid tax stamps, and doing such lovely things as organized car theft rings that have seen complete vehicles go from US streets to Iraq and used as car bombs as they ‘mix in’ well with US vehicles there.

Additionally going after the drug part of illegal crossings does nothing to address the labor issues involved with most human trafficking. For that I am well able to support any law that cracks down on US firms found employing illegals on the ’3 strikes and you’re out’ basis. If they continue to do it for a third time, then they really do not respect the laws of the US and need to go down. Plus it would put the big operators on notice, like Tyson’s Foods, that this is horrific and dangerous behavior on their part…

There is a deadly system set up between narcotics traffickers, organized crime and terrorism. With the fall of the Cali and Medellin Cartels (organized crime) their sometimes enforcers that they kept in pay (FARC) took over operations. FARC having long standing ties to Cuba and ties from the 1990′s after Hezbollah established themselves in the Tri-Border Area, has been forced slowly out of Colombia, but that is just shifting operations to other countries and regions in South and Central America… plus they have expanded their venues to purely retail things like software piracy and intellectual property theft. FARC has clearly shifted support to more retail Mexican cartels for their money channels, but that is a suite of channels that now supports a wide array of venues in their cooperation with multiple other organizations. The flow of Chinese arms into Mexico is well documented as the US does not have anyplace that makes FA AK’s… and AK’s are a ‘loss leader’ in the black market arms markets and very cheap when buying wholesale. When you throw in support that has come in from at least one Red Mafia organization that seems to know a good thing when it sees it with extorting money from rich Nations via the related natural gas market, and the foundering petro system inside Mexico which has been regulated to non-expansion for over a decade, and you begin to wonder just how blind we are to one of the real good sources of cash that has not been tapped: extortion of cash for north-flowing crude oil.

The concept of ‘making it legal’ in the US will not change other Nation’s laws on these things: Europe would still be sucking in narcotics and be a prime source of cash. Using the labor differential to product retail cost between failing African States and Europe (which includes Russia) only changes some of the triangular trade going on. And even if we did ‘make it legal’ the ability of organized crime systems to put up front operations is astounding, and even with ‘legitimate’ front operations much of the money from legal and ‘safe’ use of such things will still flow to the illegal side as they can and do know how to work the money system better than standard capitalists who are legal. Plus in some poor Nations they can keep their standard working arrangements to shaft the poor farmers who see only pennies per pound on the source stuff. Just like the Syrians do in the Bekaa Valley.

Yes I have spent the past few years piecing together how this lovely international web of narcotics, terrorism, organized crime, money laundering, human trafficking, and buying into political parties globally works… and the results are less than pretty. I’ve been saying for a couple of years that the next major deployment of US troops will be against the insurgency that is in Mexico… not Iraq, not Afghanistan, not Phillipines, not Colombia… that is due to where the money is coming from and the big targets the US has up for those interested in real money. And I can think of a few operators that play in those leagues in which narcotics is just a source for local support organizations and not the place where the real prize comes from. That is what is happening to the Mexican cartels: they are being amalgamated into larger structures seeking their own ‘turf’ and with the destruction of the old farming system in Mexico, there is no one there who actually can support the Nation in bad economic times via agriculture, which makes the easy money of the dispossessed to organized crime jobs a no-brainer even if it is a life-ender.

ajacksonian on May 1, 2010 at 7:46 AM

Should “Bank Robbers” be called “bank customers”?

Libs don’t like the term “bank robbers.” Like “illegal alien,” it suggests the person might have done something wrong. Since we know that all bank robbers are just decent, hard-working people trying to provide a better life for their children, we should use less pejorative words to describe them. In the future, please refer to them as “unauthorized withdrawers.” To do otherwise would be raaaacist.

AZCoyote on May 1, 2010 at 7:47 AM

The cartels are smart enough to launder enough money to buy the needed number of elected officials to thwart any border security.
They have learned well from the Mafia.No doubt they even watch the Godfather for kicks.
The cost of a congressman is less than $200000 to maybe a million over a few years,not to many bales needed to buy a dozen or so.Just get a lawyer or PR guy to handle the money and keep it quiet.

Col.John Wm. Reed on May 1, 2010 at 8:02 AM

Obviously these deputies were racist in their attempt to accost future model U.S. citizens as they were simply trying to transact business. It was all an accident that occurred after these pharma-tourists had their civil and human rights violated.

Philly on May 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM

What ever happened to the “Minutemen”?

GFW on May 1, 2010 at 8:36 AM

You seem to think it is easy to immigrate here. IF it were easier, we would have less of a problem in Texas and Arizona.

Also, you have drunk coffee out of a cup designed by a poor immigrant named Laszlo Büch. You just didn’t appreciate it.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

My. . aren’t you just the “holy” one. Sorry but I happen to think, AS A LEGAL IMMIGRANT, that people like you are disgraceful. Truly. Why is it that every Tom, Dick, Harry and Drug lord should be allowed?
I am all for those that wish to come and blend and join as countless people have done before THIS WAVE of illegal immigrants from the south and from Slavic Countries. They do NOT care to be here except for the money and services they are given off the backs of the American people. Please don’t think yourself so wonderful.
If you wish to have the discussion of making it a bit easier ti enter legally then get on the bandwagon of securing our borders so your “WONDERFUL” illegal that created some stupid cup of coffee doesn’t kill another rancher or law enforcement officer.

Noelie on May 1, 2010 at 8:58 AM

Reid just lost the argument if he comes out with that proposal about US citizens having to carry biometric id. Maybe that’s what dear leaders brown shirts will be checking. Wait til they start peeking into our bank accounts in real time. The underground economy should really start booming then.

Kissmygrits on May 1, 2010 at 9:23 AM

The world goes officially upside down when Americans face fines and potentially jail if they fail to provide proof of health insurance.

By contrast, illegal aliens will not be required to show proof of insurance or citizenship nor face any sanctions for failing to comply with the health insurance mandate yet will enjoy the benefit of free healthcare which the rest of us will be obliged to provide.

R Square on May 1, 2010 at 2:37 AM

Excellent point! And I hope this incident helps to persuade any officers in Arizona who are expressing reservations about enforcing this new law.

Dork B. on May 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM

Oh, and if this is a “key transit point,” WHY don’t we have border agents or the SWAT team down there with AK-47’s of their own.

Because they are to busy keeping the teaparty ladies in hand and watching the oil slick.

nwpammy on May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Secure the Border. Round them up. Throw them out.

SurferDoc on May 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM

What’s so funny about reid’s card idea, is that the democrats have fought any type of voter reg card. now he’s ahnding it to us on a platter.
“Card plz”
“I lost mine”
“When?”
“Yesterday”
“Sry. Can’t vote without one. Next”

BruceB on May 1, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Good point, BruceB! The Dems will box themselves into enforcing the immigration laws and Zombie Voters, if we let them run with this ID card crap.

SurferDoc on May 1, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Oh, and if this is a “key transit point,” WHY don’t we have border agents or the SWAT team down there with AK-47’s of their own.

Because they are to busy keeping the teaparty ladies in hand and watching the oil slick.

nwpammy on May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM

I asked the same question, and came up with about the same answer.

Who is John Galt on May 1, 2010 at 10:33 AM

You seem to think it is easy to immigrate here. IF it were easier, we would have less of a problem in Texas and Arizona.

Also, you have drunk coffee out of a cup designed by a poor immigrant named Laszlo Büch. You just didn’t appreciate it.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

Ashley, we have a set of immigration laws. Some of them have been poorly conceived. Nearly all of them have been unenforced in recent years.

I am completely in favor of reconsidering our nation’s laws concerning immigration. However, we must be able to enforce those laws which are on the books. Allowing people to pick and choose which laws they will obey can only end in anarchy.

As far as your second point about the coffee cup. It has as much to do with this argument as the price of pickled herring.

jpmn on May 1, 2010 at 10:47 AM

You seem to think it is easy to immigrate here. IF it were easier, we would have less of a problem in Texas and Arizona.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 2:23 AM

Funny, they don’t seem to be picking up any Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians, Indians, . . . etc. Go back to flying unicorn land.

jdkchem on May 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM

“key transit point”
“bales of marijuana”
I understand the outrage over this new law now…it isn’t about illegal immigrants at all…it’s about all the leftard, potheads not getting their goods…

LadinPlaid on May 1, 2010 at 11:09 AM

I have made this point before but it bears repeating. It is highly unlikely this officer was shot with an AK-47 assault rifle which is relatively rare in this part of the world. A far more likely candidate is the AKS rifle, which is a semi-automatic variant of the AK-47. It is difficult to impossible to distinguish from the AK-47 except upon fairly close examination, and shoots the same ammunition.

And yes, the distinction is important. The anti-gunners and their collaborators in media have been very successful in blurring the distinction between the relatively rare assault rifles and their commonly available semi-auto variants. Assault rifles are macine guns capable of automatic fire (pull the trigger and gun shoots until trigger is lifted or ammo exhausted) and ownership is severely restricted by federal law, which has long banned the manufacture of any new machine guns for the civilian market and requires buyers pay a significant tax and pass an FBI background check. Sometimes these rifles are more restricted or banned by state law.

Semi-auto variants, which are not machine guns, look like the assault rifles but cannot fire automatically (must pull trigger for each shot), and despite urban myth to the contrary, are not easily convertible to do so. They are squirt guns compared to the true assault rifle’s fire hoses.

novaculus on May 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM

This won’t matter to those opponents to this new law. It wouldn’t matter if 100 cops had been left to die across the desert. The rights, and dignity don’t belong to them….only to the illegals. Apparently even the legals. It’s THEIR rights being trounced on. Hard working, tax paying, law abiding citizens rights do NOT count anymore.

capejasmine on May 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Long but worth the time:
Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try It Here at Home
By J. Michael Waller
May 08, 2006
Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.
That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem.
Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
* in the country legally;
* have the means to sustain themselves economically;
* not destined to be burdens on society;
* of economic and social benefit to society;
* of good character and have no criminal records; and
* contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
* immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
* foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
* foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
* foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
* foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
* those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens — and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.
It is an interesting law — and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.
Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
* Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
* Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
* Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
* The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
* Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
* A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
* A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
* Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
* Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
* Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
* Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
* Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.
Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
* “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
* Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
* Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
* A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
* Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

LarryG on May 1, 2010 at 12:17 PM

I hope those police helicopters are AH64 Apaches with Hellfire missiles and M230 30mm chain guns. Time to treat these creeps like the “insurgents” they are.

mr.blacksheep on May 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM

KendraWilder on May 1, 2010 at 4:11 AM

You make good points.

In Canada the welfare is too easy to get and the provinces do not check with each other. So you get Somalis collecting welfare in several provinces and sending the money back to warlords in Somalia. The solution is to cut the welfare. People would have to work.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Had the Arizona deputy defended himself (although probably all US border guards are outgunned by Mexican drug traffickers who carry state-of-the-art automatic weapons) and shot the illegal, there would be nobody defending him. Not even cowardly Republicans. This is how low we’ve sunk.

MaiDee on May 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM

A bit off topic but this is as good a place to do this as any.

Can we please dispense with the ubiquitous and mindless use of ‘illegal immigrant’ when ‘illegal alien’ is the more proper phrase? These AK-47-carrying thugs were going to immigrate to the U.S.? Puh-leeze.

I try to be as accurate as possible with my language so if I say illegal alien I’m right 100% of the time whereas if I say illegal immigrant accuracy falls substantially below that level. Or are we devolving into His Most Exalted Oneness’s ‘just words’?

rocksandbroncs on May 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM

And no doubt if the shot deputy would have pulled his weapon and shot back…and heaven forbid hit one of the SOB’s, an Assist. AG like Johnny Sutton would conjure up some law to prosecuting him. GRRRrrrrr

byteshredder on May 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Bales of marijuana…So much for patronizing an illegal trade…

Nozzle on May 1, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Larry,,,,,,,I mentioned the Mexican immigration laws on two threads and no one commented on them. These open border folks should be glad we don’t have their laws, they would be in a bad fix now if we did. Can you imagine sitting in a Mexican jail for not having papers? Lets see some comments on the differences on the immigration laws between the USA and Mexico.

garydt on May 1, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Our local news paper had a story about a man convicted of the rape of a 12 year old. My comments about the on line story:
“Delaware authorities, in turn, contacted the Cecil County Sheriff’s Office because Vallejo had been working in Cecil County.” So they knew he was an illegal working in CC.

“At the time, Vallejo also was wanted on a parole violation from an unrelated 2001 conviction in Delaware on first-degree rape and kidnapping charges for which he failed to register as a convicted sex offender, federal authorities reported.” So he is a known illegal running around free after less than 9 years in prison and not deported afterwards but placed instead on parole with then there is a warrant out on him as an unregistered sex offender, of all things, and the authorities knew where he was. Am I missing something? When illegals are involved it seems the authorities are less diligent. And people wonder why the state government of AZ is pushing state and local law enforcement to do the job the Feds won’t do.

amr on May 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM

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