Arizona deputy shot with AK-47 by suspected illegal immigrant

posted at 9:51 pm on April 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

I mentioned this in an update to the Connie Mack post but it’s worth a post of its own given the national interest in the state’s new statute. Which, incidentally, wasn’t being enforced here: It doesn’t go into effect for 90 days, or possibly for much longer if opponents have their way.

The wound is apparently superficial, thank goodness.

Pinal County sheriff’s Lt. Tamatha Villar says the deputy suffered a superficial wound to his abdomen after being shot with an AK-47 assault rifle Friday afternoon.

Villar says the deputy was doing smuggling interdiction work and found bales of marijuana in the desert. He then encountered five suspected illegal immigrants, two armed with rifles, and was shot.

At last check, the suspects were shooting at police helicopters in hot pursuit. More from CNN:

Pinal County is located between Phoenix and Tuscon and has been described as a key transit point for illegal immigrants. Sheriff Paul Babeu told CNN that an estimated 80 percent of illegal immigrants eventually pass through his county along the way to other locations.

Critics of the new law have been demanding a fact pattern by which “reasonable suspicion” might lawfully arise. Well, this one seems promising: A desert search along a route known to be used by coyotes turns up illegal drugs, with further investigation revealing a group of people nearby. Under the circumstances, suspicion of a crime committed by illegals doesn’t seem so wingnutty. And, I emphasize, it’s just suspicion: Could be that these would-be cop-killers are bona fide U.S. citizens. But then, that’s what the law is for — to let cops ascertain status in dubious circumstances. Assuming they were all in a car on a suspected coyote route, were pulled over for speeding, and no one in the car could offer any address of U.S. residence, names of U.S. relatives, etc., shouldn’t “reasonable suspicion” obtain?


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Legalize the pot + legalize the workers = less trouble at the border.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM

It sure is a good thing that culture and power have absolutely nothing to do with mob violence. It’s alllll about teh potz.

I remember when Prohibition was lifted in the US and *BAM* all the mafia people vanished into thin air.

Lehosh on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Were you born stupid or did you do it yourself?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:47 PM

You ever heard of Prohibition? How about the Black Market?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Were you born stupid or did you do it yourself?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:47 PM

He studied at a junior college.

thomasaur on April 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM
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That is mathematically impossible.

thomasaur on April 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM

thomasaur: Maybe that technology exists,gawd,nightmarish,
haha–:)

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Really? I don’t know what you guys are referencing that Shakira must have said recently, but I’ve always, always thought she was a gross heifer and never understood what anyone saw in her.

Lehosh on April 30, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Ironically, a hyperlink on the web page of Arizona’s Channel 12 carrying live helicopter coverage of the shooting/search, was of Shakira criticizing AZ’s new law enforcing immigration status. And as to Shakira’s looks, she was cute as a younger lady with her original black hair. She is Lebanese and Colombian. And yes, I am partial to Latinas. But I do like the US and the rule of law, so Shakira does not sway me.

65droptop on April 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Mr. Pickles I don’t think that’s what the EO does.

here

It doesn’t say what you say it says. People are just probably ignoring Meghan’s daddy cause he’s an obnoxious and feckless and stupid loser.

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM

It sounds like the cops are going to have to treat every traffic stop as a “felon” stop – guns drawn, etc.

The easiest way to control the border is to give a Mexican General $10,000,000 per year to do it and deduct $100,000 for every illegal that crosses the border. Problem solved.

darwin-t on April 30, 2010 at 10:55 PM

You ever heard of Prohibition? How about the Black Market?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

How would legalization turn a cop shooter into someone with character? You think he’ll go find a job a Burger King or something?

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Were you born stupid or did you do it yourself?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:47 PM

You ever heard of Prohibition? How about the Black Market?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Guess that answers the question.

katy on April 30, 2010 at 10:56 PM

I remember when Prohibition was lifted in the US and *BAM* all the mafia people vanished into thin air.

Lehosh on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Organized crime went into labor racketeering, gambling, prostitution after the booze trade dried up. Democratic labor laws (FDR) actually made the first very profitable.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:56 PM

How about the Black Market?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

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AshleyTKing: That smacks of BLACKMAIL!!

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:43 PM

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I rest my case!!!

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

How would legalization turn a cop shooter into someone with character? You think he’ll go find a job a Burger King or something?

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 10:56 PM

He is probably going to be a criminal no matter what.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

You ever heard of Prohibition? How about the Black Market?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Yes dimwit. What makes you think that it’s OK to shoot a cop?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Yes dimwit. What makes you think that it’s OK to shoot a cop?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

katy the mean old lady:FYI,QOTD is up:)

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

65droptop on April 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Okay…I quickly scanned your post…did you say that the helicopter was taking a lap around one of her hips? Did I get that right?

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

He is probably going to be a criminal no matter what.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Then your post about less trouble at the border was stupid.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

I rest my case!!!

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

I’m not sure what your case is, but was lifting stupid Prohibition, a progressive era utopia, caving into organized crime (as you seem to be saying)?

No. It was recognition of a failed policy.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

Ashley is smart. Marijuana laws are stupid and kill cops whose lives are wasted enforcing a stupid law and they die screaming for nothing nothing nothing.

It’s just so dumb.

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Ashley is smart. Marijuana laws are stupid and kill cops whose lives are wasted enforcing a stupid law and they die screaming for nothing nothing nothing.

It’s just so dumb.

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM

He’ll just bring in coke, heroin….crack, meth…..
Neither one of these people has a brain cell to rub together, but the penguin said she was smart….two idiots don’t make a right.

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM

What makes you think that it’s OK to shoot a cop?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM

I find that personally disturbing. But you don’t seem interested in thinking.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Talk about, “It’s on.”

AnninCA on April 30, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Legalize the pot + legalize the workers = less trouble at the border.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Aw heck, why don’t we just grant amnesty to the entire world’s population and guarantee them all Obamacare and free weed?

jimmy2shoes on April 30, 2010 at 11:05 PM

What makes you think that it’s OK to shoot a cop?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:57 PM
I find that personally disturbing. But you don’t seem interested in thinking.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Oh hell…I have a hundred on KTMOL.

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 11:05 PM

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM

And legalizing it would do what?…produce more pot head dolts like you?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM

I quickly scanned your post…did you say that the helicopter was taking a lap around one of her hips? Did I get that right?

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

You owe me a new monitor. Old one covered in Coke, Coco-Cola that is. And I mean that.

And Shakira was cute. Back in the day. And Hips Don’t Lie.

65droptop on April 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM

katy the mean old lady:FYI,QOTD is up:)

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM

Thanks, it’ll get me away from Ash and happypaws. The last of my Canadian pals went home today Waaaaaaa!

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

The same drug traffickers then move on to cocaine- legalize that will then be the call; then on to heroin- legalize that will then be the call.

michaelo on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Aw heck, why don’t we just grant amnesty to the entire world’s population and guarantee them all Obamacare and free weed?

jimmy2shoes on April 30, 2010 at 11:05 PM

Pay for your own weed and healthcare!

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

I hate pot personally but other people like to smoke it.

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 11:08 PM

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Katy, you are one mean lady.

I was born in Manitoba.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM

happyfeet on April 30, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Afraid it may raise your IQ?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM
Katy, you are one mean lady.

I was born in Manitoba.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM

That EXPLAINS IT….Drywall’s dimmer twin sister.

HornetSting on April 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM

The leftie media pigs that would sell our country for idealism.

Schadenfreude on April 30, 2010 at 11:13 PM

The guy broke at least three laws. I don’t think legalization or prohibition means a damn thing to him. It’s way off topic in this case.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:15 PM

I’m so comforted by Janet Napolitano’s statement that “the border is more secure than it’s ever been.” I’m sure the deputy being treated for the AK-47 bullet hole(s) is comforted by her confidence.

Jill1066 on April 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM

I was born in Manitoba.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM

That explains your mental deficiency.

thomasaur on April 30, 2010 at 11:17 PM

I “illegal immigrants” is way off — the 5 perps were drug smugglers. They weren’t immigrating anywhere.

We have such a sloppy, incurious press corpse it’s hard to believe they can keep their jobs. And yes, from now on I plan to refer to “journalists” and “reporters” as the press corpse. (Thanks to our Second Black President, Obama, for inspiring the term.)

alice on April 30, 2010 at 11:18 PM

What’s next?

Obama caught with Shakira in Motel 6?

profitsbeard on April 30, 2010 at 11:18 PM

The guy broke at least three laws. I don’t think legalization or prohibition means a damn thing to him. It’s way off topic in this case.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Any thug who would shoot at police needs to be dealt with swiftly and severely.

However, if pot was legal, businessmen would supply it, not thugs. If we made it easier for foreigners to work here, as GW proposed, then we would have some sanity at the border: fewer human smugglers, and the tragedies that go with it.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:21 PM

That explains your mental deficiency.

thomasaur on April 30, 2010 at 11:17 PM

No, your non-sequitur explains yours.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Let’s see, let’s see…where were we? Ah…yes, we were listening to the cringe-worthy RINO yelping of one Michael Medved, who, on his nationally syndicated radio talk show, was crying in anguished pain for the poor American conservative Hispanics who would be tarred by association with illegals of the same perceived race and driven — helplessly! — away from the GOP that they love so dearly.

A random caller to the show confirmed Michael’s worst fears. Yes, he is a Phoenix cop and he resents, nay he rejects the right wing legislature’s interference with his deep rapport with the common man, and yes — the undocumented resident. “Badges? They don’t need no stinking badges! These are but peace loving migrant workers, here to earn an honest day’s wage and feed the great melting pot of America.”

Yes…well. Be that as it may, someone seems to have shot one of your fellow peace officers, officer. Now who could do such a thing.

You effing twit.

Jaibones on April 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM

What’s next?

Obama caught with Shakira in Motel 6?

profitsbeard on April 30, 2010 at 11:18 PM

According to Sinclair, that’s not his style.

Anybody know what odds the bookmakers are giving on the date of the first vigilante action? I’m guessing before the end of May.

platypus on April 30, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Pay for your own weed and healthcare!

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

With what? Obama’s unicorn skittles?

jimmy2shoes on April 30, 2010 at 11:27 PM

Obama caught with Shakira in Motel 6?

profitsbeard on April 30, 2010 at 11:18 PM

LEAVE SHAKIRA ALONE!!

65droptop on April 30, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Those who are against the Arizona laws and enforcing our borders should consider adopting Mexico’s immigration laws since I can’t see anybody on the left criticizing them. Since Mexico has such superior laws why don’t we just adopt their laws word for word. I can’t imagine what their police or federales would do if Yanks were smuggling drugs and people illegal there.

garydt on April 30, 2010 at 11:29 PM

However, if pot was legal, businessmen would supply it, not thugs. If we made it easier for foreigners to work here, as GW proposed, then we would have some sanity at the border: fewer human smugglers, and the tragedies that go with it.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:21 PM

And if you take the front door off your house, no one will ever break in.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:30 PM

I’m fine with legalizing pot, but the assertion that doing so would somehow eliminate the problem of criminals spilling over our borders illegally and causing untold mayhem, regardless of whether they’re “immigrants” or drug dealers, is absurd. Talk about oversimplifying the issue. Obviously our trolls are drug-addled themselves.

NoLeftTurn on April 30, 2010 at 11:30 PM

With what? Obama’s unicorn skittles?

jimmy2shoes on April 30, 2010 at 11:27 PM

That is what we’ll have if the Reps fail to take the House this fall.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:30 PM

thomasaur on April 30, 2010 at 11:17 PM

No, your non-sequitur explains yours.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM

thomasaur, would you like to tell her what it means and how using such a big word works better when in context?

Or should I do it?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Shooting police…

Just a few of “God’s children” striving for the American dream. Is shooting a cop a job “American’s won’t do?”

OK! That’s not fair. We all know that most illegals just want to leech off of your taxes for food stamps, subsidized housing, free health care, and free education for their anchor-babies. They just buy fake IDs and steal the identities of real Americans so that they can work illegally.

The new American Dream is ripping off the American people.
How sad…

shorebird on April 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM

And if you take the front door off your house, no one will ever break in.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:30 PM

Funny. Growing up on the prairies, we didn’t lock our doors. It was pretty common.

Yes, people should knock on the door (apply), and come in through the door in the daylight and not the window in the night. So how to encourage legal workers? How about increasing the number allowed and making it easier to apply, like George Bush recommended a few years back?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Or should I do it?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Why don’t you, katy?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:36 PM

I was born in Manitoba.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM

and raised by polar bears.

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Via Twitter:

“Anyway, my conclusion is thus: If you think a place is just like Nazi Germany, don’t try to sneak in there.”

catmman on April 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM

We have 10% unemployment. Why would we be eager to increase the number of workers coming in? And why would we do it only to appease lawbreakers? It’s already not that hard to get into this country anyway if you’re upstanding, educated and go through the proper channels. What makes you think the people running across the desert would meet even minimum standards?

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

and raised by polar bears.

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM

No, they had to be shot with darts and flown out of town before I could meet them.

I’m still waiting for your explanation of how thomasaur’s nasty comment is not a non-sequitur.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM

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I find that personally disturbing. But you don’t seem interested in thinking.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Why? I am breathlessly awaiting your explanation.

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM

So how to encourage legal workers? How about increasing the number allowed and making it easier to apply, like George Bush recommended a few years back?

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Why does everyone assume that we need foreign workers, legal or illegal? I’ve never seen any studies that showed an inability to fill jobs. I have seen studies showing that illegal workers depress wages, thereby making the jobs into “jobs Americans won’t do.”

Every workplace raid which results in illegals rounded up by the hundreds causes a flood of Americans applying for (and getting) those jobs. Usually within 24 hours, the plant is back at full capacity as if nothing had happened.

People really need to stop talking out of that lower orifice.

platypus on April 30, 2010 at 11:43 PM

No, they had to be shot with darts and flown out of town before I could meet them.

I’m still waiting for your explanation of how thomasaur’s nasty comment is not a non-sequitur.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM

A: take a trip to Churchill and visit the jail
B: why am I supposed to explain his comment.

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:44 PM

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Hey Einstein…you’re bitching to the wrong one.

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:40 PM

Labor is always in short supply because our wants and needs are never completely satisfied.

The reason we have 10% unemployment is: 1, the massive capital misallocation (into housing) caused by bad government policies. This is the recession we are trying to climb out of. Of course, the Democrats are making that recovery harder with each law they pass; 2, unions which push up wages above market rates; and 3, minimum wage laws.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Heh:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio to announce candidacy for Arizona Governor:
http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2010/04/abc15-source-sheriff-joe-arpaio-will.html

Libtard and illegal alien heads explode in 3….2…1…

LegendHasIt on April 30, 2010 at 11:48 PM

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:36 PM

He stated a glaring fact, sweets. Nothing non sequitur about it.

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:49 PM

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM

BTW Einstein, you do know you’re b-tching to the wrong katy…right?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Anybody know what odds the bookmakers are giving on the date of the first vigilante action? I’m guessing before the end of May.

platypus on April 30, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Sounds about right. When it happens, Obama is gonna have to fish or cut bait.

a capella on April 30, 2010 at 11:51 PM

He stated a glaring fact, sweets. Nothing non sequitur about it.

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:49 PM

People from Manitoba are mentally deficient.

How enlightening to hear that.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Sheriff Paul Babeu told CNN that an estimated 80 percent of illegal immigrants eventually pass through his county along the way to other locations.

I vote we make Al Sharpton & Gavin Newsom personally responsible for the financial upkeep of each & every illegal immigrant.

TN Mom on April 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Regardless of what caused it, the cure for 10% unemployment is not 20% unemployment.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM

He stated a glaring fact, sweets. Nothing non sequitur about it.

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:49 PM

That’s about as ‘factual’ as a liberal remarking that everyone in Oklahoma is an idiot.

ThomaDinosaur wouldn’t recognize a ‘glaring fact’ if it had a neon sign pointing to it.

Dark-Star on April 30, 2010 at 11:54 PM

However, Ashley:

Labor is always in short supply because our wants and needs are never completely satisfied.

Labor isn’t what is in short supply this time. That would be jobs.

Dark-Star on April 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

I guess a positive thing about the AZ bill is that it is being reported that people are being shoot/killed.

What took HA so long to report it?

Just wondering?

F15Mech on April 30, 2010 at 11:57 PM

That’s about as ‘factual’ as a liberal remarking that everyone in Oklahoma is an idiot.

ThomaDinosaur wouldn’t recognize a ‘glaring fact’ if it had a neon sign pointing to it.

Dark-Star on April 30, 2010 at 11:54 PM

So you’ve never been to Manitoba?

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Regardless of what caused it, the cure for 10% unemployment is not 20% unemployment.

Ronnie on April 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM

I think I see your point: more people when a significant number are already not finding work.

But the cure is capitalism, entrepreneurship, cheaper energy, freer labor markets. I’m for the real cure. That means welcoming people who want to produce, provided they follow the rules of entry. The reason we have so many slipping in through the window is that it is too bureaucratic and slow. I happen to know from personal experience.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:01 AM

BTW Einstein, you do know you’re b-tching to the wrong katy…right?

katy on April 30, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Hard to tell good katy from mean katy when you are higher than a Georgia pine.Seems to happen a lot. Sorry!

katy the mean old lady on May 1, 2010 at 12:03 AM

That’s about as ‘factual’ as a liberal remarking that everyone in Oklahoma is an idiot.

Dark-Star on April 30, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Here’s where you tripped up…liberals aren’t familiar with ‘facts’.

katy on May 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM

Labor isn’t what is in short supply this time. That would be jobs.

Dark-Star on April 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

Yes, entrepreneurs with capital to expand or start new enterprises. The federal government is a giant capital vacuum right now. And it wastes that precious resource.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM

The reason we have so many slipping in through the window is that it is too bureaucratic and slow. I happen to know from personal experience.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:01 AM

You know nothing. The reason they run across the desert is because there isn’t a chance in hell they’d make the grade by conventional means. They don’t come with buckets of money to stimulate our economy. They don’t come knowing English. All of them are willing to break the law when it suits them. If they actually had money, education, skills and a clean record, they’d already be across the border.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 12:06 AM

katy the mean old lady on May 1, 2010 at 12:03 AM

she’ll get the hang of it once she puts her bong down.

katy on May 1, 2010 at 12:06 AM

Yes, entrepreneurs with capital to expand or start new enterprises.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM

You’d think Mexico would have a booming economy with so much capital and talent waiting at the border.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM

You’d think Mexico would have a booming economy with so much capital and talent waiting at the border.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM

Ronnie, they don’t have much capital because they don’t have much capitalism. That is why they want to come here, to earn more money!

By the way, when you enjoy your coffee tomorrow, thank an immigrant for designing the cup:

Born Laszlo Büch in present-day Ukraine in 1922, Buck arrived in America a refugee of Nazi Germany after World War II. He lost his parents to the Nazis, but he survived Auschwitz and Buchenwald. His daughter describes him as a self-made man, “He came here with nothing, no parents, no job, no savings. He had nothing.”

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM

Born Laszlo Büch in present-day Ukraine in 1922, Buck arrived in America a refugee of Nazi Germany after World War II. He lost his parents to the Nazis, but he survived Auschwitz and Buchenwald. His daughter describes him as a self-made man, “He came here- LEGALLY -with nothing, no parents, no job, no savings. He had nothing.”

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM

oops… forget something there sweets?

katy on May 1, 2010 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM
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Thanks, it’ll get me away from Ash and happypaws. The last of my Canadian pals went home today Waaaaaaa!

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM

katy the mean old lady:)

canopfor on May 1, 2010 at 12:19 AM

I was born in Manitoba.

AshleyTKing on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM

AshleyTKing:No wonder your thinking is screwed up,I’m
born,and reside in Northern Ontario!

canopfor on May 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM

I’m pretty sure we had cups before WWII.

Anyway, plenty of people immigrate to this country legally, and if they can do it, anyone can do it. It’s really not that hard unless you have absolutely nothing to offer.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 12:27 AM

AshleyTKing:No wonder your thinking is screwed up,I’m
born,and reside in Northern Ontario!

canopfor on May 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Ha!

WPG for the FTW!

tetriskid on May 1, 2010 at 12:27 AM

canopfor on May 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Last time I was in Northern Ontario it was so hot the rails warped on the track and the train (to Montreal) had to stop for several hours.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:29 AM

Last time I was in Northern Ontario it was so hot the rails warped on the track and the train (to Montreal) had to stop for several hours.

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:29 AM

Smoking that Quebec hydroponic , are ya?

katy the mean old lady on May 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Ashley is right though about how stupid making marijuana contraband is.

How many more people have to get shot indertumak?

happyfeet on May 1, 2010 at 12:45 AM

What’s this “Illegal Immigrant” crap??

Let’s quit all of this PC stuff and call them what they really are; Unregistered Democrats!

Nuts4koi on May 1, 2010 at 12:52 AM

happyfeet on May 1, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Changing the drug they run across the border isn’t going to change the body count.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 1:00 AM

If legalizing drugs and the illegal immigrants will solve the problem lets legalise murder and rape and the we won’t have those problems either. Remember “you can’t fix stupid”

old war horse on May 1, 2010 at 1:10 AM

And the Pinal C. sheriff is on Greta dissing the new law.That jackass needs a new job.

katy the mean old lady on April 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Are you sure it wasn’t the Pima County sheriff? They have been playing sound bites of him saying the law was stupid.

Mr_Magoo on May 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM

Why does everyone assume that we need foreign workers, legal or illegal? I’ve never seen any studies that showed an inability to fill jobs. I have seen studies showing that illegal workers depress wages, thereby making the jobs into “jobs Americans won’t do.”

platypus on April 30, 2010 at 11:43 PM

That’s an easy one. It’s wage arbitration. I can give you video of Greenspan saying just that if you like.

DFCtomm on May 1, 2010 at 1:24 AM

Ronnie, they don’t have much capital because they don’t have much capitalism. That is why they want to come here, to earn more money!

AshleyTKing on May 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM

I’m sorry but that’s just not a good enough reason to be here. What we want in an immigrant is a desire to be an American, and not just to get a job.

DFCtomm on May 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM

I’m sorry but that’s just not a good enough reason to be here. What we want in an immigrant is a desire to be an American, and not just to get a job.

DFCtomm on May 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM

People rarely leave their homes because they are too comfortable — people leave because they are uncomfortable, and want to improve their comfort. Some come to escape religious persecution, others to better themselves economically, while still others come here for educational opportunity.

But they come here because they see in America a better place to live.

So, if they come here “merely” for a job, that’s fine by me.

unclesmrgol on May 1, 2010 at 1:37 AM

First of all, these people aren’t immigrants. They have no desire or intention of becoming Americans. They come only to make money to send back to Mexico and to suck off the public teat. When they have enough money they go back to Mexico. They’re special you see – laws don’t apply to them. They just do what they want and when they get caught they just scream – racist! And the HA trolls say, “let the cute little dears go.”

Remember, every tax dollar spent on the Special Mexicans is a dollar that’s withheld from needy Americans.

lonesomecharlie on May 1, 2010 at 1:43 AM

But they come here because they see in America a better place to live.

So, if they come here “merely” for a job, that’s fine by me.

unclesmrgol on May 1, 2010 at 1:37 AM

So call that deputy and tell him.

katy the mean old lady on May 1, 2010 at 1:46 AM

But they come here because they see in America a better place to live.

unclesmrgol on May 1, 2010 at 1:37 AM

And that’s it? We’re a country where you can just take what you want if someone has something better than you? No, we’re a better place to live because of people who think exactly the opposite. If the illegals think we’re just one big socialist soup kitchen, they may as well stay home, because all they’re doing is turning us into the country they left.

Ronnie on May 1, 2010 at 2:00 AM

lonesomecharlie on May 1, 2010 at 1:43 AM

That about describes it as well as it can be described without using a lot more words.

MB4 on May 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM

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