Reid’s immigration bill: Illegals eligible for amnesty in eight years

posted at 8:53 pm on April 29, 2010 by Allahpundit

All the usual caveats apply — learn English, pay taxes, no criminal record — but come 2018, the amnesty parade would begin. There’s no earthly reason from a policy standpoint to do this comprehensively instead of addressing border security first. It’s pure politics, as cynical as anything that came out of Charlie Crist’s mouth today, and it’s headed straight down the tubes. And it won’t be only congressional Republicans who send it there.

Seeking to woo Republicans, the 26-page framework, which has not yet been written into a formal bill, emphasizes first taking steps to limit illegal immigration before offering new rights for those here illegally. But the REPAIR (Real Enforcement with Practical Answers for Immigration Reform) proposal, as Democrats dubbed it, also would create a pathway to legal status for an estimated 10.8 million people who are already in the country illegally, an idea opposed by many conservatives.

Under the proposal, illegal immigrants currently in the United States would be eligible for legal status in eight years, as long as they learned English, had not committed a crime and paid their taxes. The federal government would increase funding for border security and require all American workers get a new version of their Social Security card that would include a biometric identifier to protect against the creation of counterfeits…

But the only Republican who had been negotiating with Democrats on the issue, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), criticized the proposal, saying “it is our belief that Congress should focus on border security first,” in a joint statement with Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), the No. 2 Republican in the Senate.

When even Grahamnesty’s pushing the “borders first” line, you can go ahead and start writing the death certificate for this thing. Obama’s under pressure from Latinos to deliver on this too, so here’s his paint-by-numbers statement hailing Reid’s bill as a “very important step” towards … I’m not sure what. Gridlock and defeat, I guess. That’s certainly where Dingy Harry’s headed.

Speaking of The One and immigration, here’s a direct quote from what he said to reporters yesterday about Arizona’s law: “What I think is a mistake is when we start having local law enforcement officials given the power to stop people on the suspicions that they may be undocumented workers.” Exit question: Remind me, but doesn’t the statute say there has to be an independent reason for cops to stop someone before asking about their status? Over to you, Andy McCarthy!


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Reid eligible for unemployment in eight months.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM

I’d be for making 1,000 illegals citizens if we could just revoke Harry Reid’s citizenship.

10,000 for Pelosi’s.

100,000 for Obama’s.

How ’bout it, Dems?

NoDonkey on April 29, 2010 at 8:56 PM

What part of #@%&*$#%* NO! don’t they understand?

Star20 on April 29, 2010 at 8:57 PM

“What I think is a mistake is when we start having local law enforcement federal officials given the power to stop criticize and demean people on the suspicion that they may be undocumented workers racists.”

FTFY, champ.

ted c on April 29, 2010 at 8:57 PM

I wish I could say that this bill has no chance of passing. But then again we all thought that ObamaCare had no chance either.

SoulGlo on April 29, 2010 at 8:57 PM

require all American workers get a new version of their Social Security card that would include a biometric identifier to protect against the creation of counterfeits…

A national ID card. That will go over well.

Wethal on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

We are about to find out how many folks we can cram into this country by 2018.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

They promised to secure the borders, too.

Liars!

Traitors!

Suicidal loons!

profitsbeard on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I’d go along with it after they seal the border, denounce socialism, balance the budget and cut their salaries and perks.

Star20 on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Drudge has a red headline in the third column saying Obama takes immigration reform off the agenda.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_immigration_politics

uknowmorethanme on April 29, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Aww, “REPAIR” how clever.

Much like the attention to detail put into Obamakare, I bet they spent more time coming up with that title than they actually did crafting this turd legislation.

red winger on April 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM

No worries. Odumbass will just create an “immigration panel” spearheaded by La Raza to come up with solutions.

txag92 on April 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM

End it, don’t mend it.

JammieWearingFool on April 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM

But, Obama told me he pulled immigration off the table for this year.

Enoxo on April 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Alright….as long as all current and former and future lawmakers give up their salaries, their retirement, and their healthcare, and they are ACCOUNTABLE for their crimes…then, we can begin to talk about this.

HornetSting on April 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM

But do the illegals really want to become citizens? Many here in AZ prefer to work here and come and go as they please to Mexico. Illegal workers in the US who send money home to Mexico is that country’s 3rd largest industry.

GrannySunni on April 29, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Will Reid matter any more or less after the server switchover?

ericdijon on April 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM

I don’t like Reid’s plan at all…..It’s way too tough. I much prefer Obama’s – where (yesterday) The Won said we should “register” illegal immigrants and make then learn English.

I must admit Obama didn’t quite explain who they would “register” with or why – although I’m pretty sure he must have meant they would be registered as Democrats. Once they’re properly “registered”, they’ll be able to use their voter registration cards to “prove” their citizenship, after which, they’ll be able to argue it’s unconstitutional to force an American citizen to learn English….What could go wrong???

alwyr on April 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM

ARRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Isn’t there ANY way to stop this felgercarb? The more of this crap I see, the more I realize that these leftist dooooooshes don’t care about getting reelected any more. They know they are their way out, and only the most skittish of them will do anything to help our side. Even so, there’s still still the lame-duck session, when they really and truely have nothing to lose.

JamesLee on April 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM

This coming ‘storm’ is going to make 2007 look tame. 10% unemployment, the sleeping giant awake…..
Is anyone planning a counter-protest for May 1st?

HornetSting on April 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM

Exit question: Remind me, but doesn’t the statute say there has to be an independent reason for cops to stop someone before asking about their status? Over to you, Andy McCarthy!

Link to the AZ Bill

Yes there must be an independent reason AND reasonable suspicion.

alohapundit on April 29, 2010 at 9:08 PM

“What I think is a mistake is when we start having local law enforcement officials given the power to stop people on the suspicions that they may be undocumented workers.”

What I think is a mistake is when we have a Blot on America, occupying the Oval Office, who is an Indonesian Imbecile, who thinks he is a Royal Emperor, except when he is bowing to disciples of the the likes of the human excrement who thought he was a prophet. And it doesn’t make any difference if his name is Barry or Hussein or Barack. And that is nothing to what I could say, if I choose.

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:11 PM

What on earth do the feds have against border security? It seems they’ll do anything to avoid having to do it. What’s in it for them to not do it? It would certainly go a long way towards solving some of the problems along the southern border. Many here seem to think it’s Mexico that wants to keep the status quo and I have no reason to doubt that logic. The problem is that Mexico is simply crooked and out of control and they’ll never ever change if we keep acting as their safty valve. Or…do they threaten Chavez style revenge if we don’t kow tow? I do not understand the problem/s. Perhaps the powers that be here on HA can find something definitive to shed light on this written by someone who really gets it?

jeanie on April 29, 2010 at 9:13 PM

But do the illegals really want to become citizens? Many here in AZ prefer to work here and come and go as they please to Mexico. Illegal workers in the US who send money home to Mexico is that country’s 3rd largest industry.

GrannySunni on April 29, 2010 at 9:04 PM

David J. Stoddard, 27 year veteran of the Border Patrol said -

“Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans want to remain citizens of their home country while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I, Mexico allowed German spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S.. During World War II, Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.”

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Jeeze Nevada! How about a courtesy flush!

ronsfi on April 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM

uknowmorethanme on April 29, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Enoxo on April 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Talk about making Reid look like an idiot, not that he needs any help.

lowandslow on April 29, 2010 at 9:19 PM

While a difficult issue, securing the border is a start.

It’s impossible to send all the current crop of honest “illegals” home, so they ought to be able to apply for some sort of work visa to become ‘documented’. Develop more appropriate self sustaining system for determining the numbers of work visas. Clearly, it’s currently too low — hence all the illegal activity. Documented workers should be liable for back taxes (and repayment of welfare bennies) if appropriate. Once documented, they can go to the back of the line to become citizens… Perhaps allow them to join the military and move towards the front of the line once their honorable service is done…

English is official language of the US. Learn it…

Documented or not, illegals shouldn’t be eligible for welfare handouts, etc, except perhaps for a one way ride back to their home country. Schooling for kids would be fine, so long as the family is gainful employed/not on welfare…

Hospitals, clinics (and any birthing site) ought to be able to deem any birthing room(s) of their choosing as a diplomatic site (aka foreign land) for birthing illegals kids without having to grant US citizenship.

Then kill chain migration, sanctuary cities (and states) get no federal $ for anything, (particularly for welfare bennies for illegals), etc, …

For starters…

drfredc on April 29, 2010 at 9:19 PM

I was eligible for citizenship after 11 years in this country, and I was a legal immigrant.

Neuron on April 29, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Just out of wild curiosity, how are these illegal aliens supposed to pay their taxes for eight years without a valid social security number?

cthulhu on April 29, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Halfway through Obees third term??

KZnextzone on April 29, 2010 at 9:23 PM

He was so right about our failure in Iraq, maybe we should trust the savvy instincts of this future dogcatcher.

ontherocks on April 29, 2010 at 9:24 PM

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

+ Infinity.

HornetSting on April 29, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I am sure a million and a half Mexicans wouldn’t cross the border the day after this bill passes so that they are ensured citizenship.

thphilli on April 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Yeah, Harry! They’ll have to learn English! They’ll have to pay taxes! Sure, I’ve never heard any of this before! I have no reason to doubt any of it!

Eren on April 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM

I’ve got an idea, let’s let Mexico vote to become the 51st state……no border issues, no illegals, higher tax revenues, we can steal use their oil, they will have to learn English….

What could go wrong?

GnuBreed on April 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

When even Grahamnesty’s pushing the “borders first” line, you can go ahead and start writing the death certificate for this thing.

Hey…!

I have a unique idea.

… Why don’t we enforce the immigration and border security laws that are already on the books first?

Who’s with me?

Seven Percent Solution on April 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Me!

alohapundit on April 29, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Got to start with shutting down the borders and then go on from there. Those of you in the know? Is it possible to shut down the borders? Recall that during WW2 both the southern and northern borders were pretty tight. If it could be done then, why not now?

jeanie on April 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Under the proposal, illegal immigrants currently in the United States would be eligible for legal status in eight years, as long as they learned English, had not committed a crime and paid their taxes

This is wonderful!!!! 100 percent of illegal immigrants will be DISQUALIFIED because 100 percent of illegal immigrants VIOLATED THE LAW when they entered this country illegally! W00T!!!!

speed911 on April 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

^ Good.

Rush’s plan — package the immigration policies of Mexico (much harsher than ours) and use them here.

^ Better?

red winger on April 29, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Hey, I have another idea…!

Let us line up every single politician that has sworn an oath to “Protect and Defend the United States of America” and tell them:


“Do nothing else, SECURE THE BORDERS OF THE UNITED STATES!!!”

Those who hesitate or say it is too hard, or they need to study the issue, or need to take a poll, or have to talk to La Raza first…

FIRE THEM, and then yell:

“NEXT!”

Seven Percent Solution on April 29, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.”

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

The Mexicans are right. You should read Ulysses S. Grant’s autobiography to understand why, for example, the US supported Texas’ bid for secession from Mexico.

unclesmrgol on April 29, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.”

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

The Mexicans are right. You should read Ulysses S. Grant’s autobiography to understand why, for example, the US supported Texas’ bid for sekession from Mexico.

unclesmrgol on April 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM

Of course, the only part that will actually be enforced is “Raise your right hand and repeat after me…”

ROCnPhilly on April 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM

Ok 7% I like your idea better. It just sounds so darn unworkable.

MB4, are you sure that our textbooks don’t have the same information re we stole CA, TX, etc.?

GnuBreed on April 29, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Harry should just stroll across the Mexican border, demand health care, citizenship, and benefits at the expense of Mexican taxpayers and see just what kind of reception he gets from Mexico City.

jimmy2shoes on April 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM

I’m still waiting for THE GOVERNMENT to honor Ronald Reagan’s pledge that “WE WILL SECURE THE BORDERS, THERE WILL BE NO MORE AMNESTY”.

So what’s changed?

GarandFan on April 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM

I thought Harry was turned off by the smell of.. Excuse me that was Tourists at the Capitol.

Dire Straits on April 29, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Fine. Just make sure that in this law we will all be required to show our biometric ID card to vote. That ought to peel off a sufficient number of Dem votes to kill it.

mrsmwp on April 29, 2010 at 9:55 PM

I have to admit, I am surprised they are doing this. They have to know it won’t work, they are just playing with the hispanics. Cynical is right.

Terrye on April 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM

The Mexicans are right. You should read Ulysses S. Grant’s autobiography to understand why, for example, the US supported Texas’ bid for sekession from Mexico.
unclesmrgol on April 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM
++++++++++++++++
Wrong. Mexico never owned Texas, they just claimed it… the *Comanche* owned Texas and pretty much the whole of the Southwest. After sending a 20,000 man army into Texas in attempt to cow the Comanche (and having it wiped out), Mexico invited Anglos in as a buffer against the Comanche. The rest is, literally, history. Mexico never was able to take and hold Texas, so by the standards of history, they never owned it… and cannot claim anyone stole it.

fabrexe on April 29, 2010 at 10:00 PM

We are about to find out how many folks we can cram into this country by 2018.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I am retired in the Philippines, which has close to 100M people crammed into an area the size of Arizona.

Believe me, you can cram a lot of people into a small space.

But if you want the quality of life to stay the same – well, that’s the problem then, isn’t it?

I’m sure the crowding won’t affect the Hamptons or the beachfront condos in Kalifornia, so the Dhimmicrat leadership could care less…

Timothy S. Carlson on April 29, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Sucks: Rick Perry blasts Arizona’s immigration law. Bowing to the the Latinos.

andy85719 on April 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM

We are about to find out how many folks we can cram into this country by 2018.
Cindy Munford on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 PM

That

macncheez on April 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM

I am retired in the Philippines, which has close to 100M people crammed into an area the size of Arizona.

Believe me, you can cram a lot of people into a small space.

But if you want the quality of life to stay the same – well, that’s the problem then, isn’t it?

I’m sure the crowding won’t affect the Hamptons or the beachfront condos in Kalifornia, so the Dhimmicrat leadership could care less…

Timothy S. Carlson on April 29, 2010 at 10:02 PM

No wonder you all are about to tip over. Congressman Lewis was right. :)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I, Mexico allowed German spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S.. During World War II, Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.”

MB4 on April 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Worth repeating. Aztlan destiny is alive and well in Mexico and in the border states.

Fletch54 on April 29, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Under the proposal, illegal immigrants currently in the United States would be eligible for legal status in eight years

What does that mean… does that mean they would all become citizens? Or would SOME of them start to be able to get citizenship because they got in the back of the line and had to pay by the quota system?

How about we double the amount of LEGAL immigrants we allow in a year? And we make sure there’s DIVERSITY of where these people come from?

ninjapirate on April 29, 2010 at 10:52 PM

What does that mean… does that mean they would all become citizens? Or would SOME of them start to be able to get citizenship because they got in the back of the line and had to pay by the quota system?

How about we double the amount of LEGAL immigrants we allow in a year? And we make sure there’s DIVERSITY of where these people come from?

What we need is a guard the border bill and a know who the heck is here bill… not a “path to citizenship” bill… and maybe a “assimilate or die” bill(enlish , can you speak it?)… these people need to go through the regular(and not special) immigration process… we can up the quotas, but they should get no special treatment because they crossed illegally…

ninjapirate on April 29, 2010 at 11:01 PM

“What I think is a mistake is when we start having local law enforcement officials given the power to stop people on the suspicions that they may be undocumented workers.” Exit question: Remind me, but doesn’t the statute say there has to be an independent reason for cops to stop someone before asking about their status?

He didn’t say that they were able to stop people on suspicion that they were illegal. He’s basically saying it would be a mistake if they did.

What I want to know is, if he’s going to lie, why he didn’t go the whole 9 yards and say, “What I think is a mistake is when we start having local law enforcement officials shoot people on sight if they think they may be undocumented workers.

C’mon Harry, be creative with your lies.

Daggett on April 29, 2010 at 11:14 PM

Not. Gonna. Happen. I don’t care if Ms. Lindsey Graham wants it. Not happening.

t.ferg on April 29, 2010 at 11:14 PM

I’ll almost be sad when he’s out of the Senate. Dobby is like a political gift from G_d sometimes.

I’d still like to ask this POS why good engineers from India are forced to leave the country while unskilled labour is granted citizenship when most aren’t asking for it.

Most of the people who come across the river are looking for work…they don’t care much about becoming citizens.

That would make them illegal aliens and not ‘undocumented immigrants’.

Asher on April 29, 2010 at 11:17 PM

Regarding historical claims: A man was walking by a well- tended field and spoke to the farmer at his work, “Nice farm, where did you get it?” The farmer replied, ” I got it from my father”. The stranger asked, “Where did he get it?” The farmer replied, “He got it from his father”. The stranger then asked, “Where did he get it?” The farmer replied, “He fought for it”. The stranger, climbing over the fence, stared at the farmer and said, “Then I’ll fight you for it”.

The moral? History safeguards no claim and the wolf is always at the door.

Mason on April 29, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Until the borders are secured, it is all a joke.

d1carter on April 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Democrats sure know how to buy votes. They’re looking to buy themselves into a permanent majority. I think November will bury them for a long time. For the sake of the nation I hope that’s how it goes….

adamsmith on April 30, 2010 at 7:11 AM

The only way we could really secure the borders is to turn the border into a militarized zone and/or introduce an aggressive ID program. Both solutions are very radical for people.

The one aspect of the current proposals, which I personally think is nothing but campaign rhetoric, is the insistence that immigrants must learn English. We’ve never had that in our country, and it seems very heavy-handed to me. Now, ordering states to produce materials in various languages also seems ridiculously heavy-handed.

It just seems odd to hear Dems pushing that one.

AnninCA on April 30, 2010 at 7:36 AM

FTFY, champ.

ted c on April 29, 2010 at 8:57 PM

+1

cmsinaz on April 30, 2010 at 7:41 AM

The moral? History safeguards no claim and the wolf is always at the door.

Mason on April 29, 2010 at 11:18 PM

The sad thing is, we’re not even willing to fight to keep what’s ours. Our government can’t give it away fast enough.

AZCoyote on April 30, 2010 at 7:41 AM

AnninCA on April 30, 2010 at 7:36 AM

The “immigrants must learn English” thing was never more than a sop to the Right. It was never meant to be seriously enforced. Do you know what the test for English “proficiency” was going to be under the McCain-Kennedy act? The immigrant had to write down 5 complete English sentences, of his/her own creation. IOW, all he or she had to do to pass the test was memorize 15 words — for example: Joe ate cake. I like pie. Sue fell down. Juan is nice. Julio works here. Presto! You’ve just proved you’re proficient in English. Congratulations on all your hard work in learning English. Here’s your visa.

AZCoyote on April 30, 2010 at 7:55 AM

The people we have not heard from is the Congressional Black Caucus. They know if the 10.8 million illegals here already stay, via amnesty, they will no longer have the political capital they need in Washington. Is that the reason Obama has taken off the table this year? I wonder what their internal polling shows? Maybe the latinos here legally want their own to come in through the front door like they did. Polling in Arizona shows that a majority of legal hispanics agree with Ms. Brewer. If only the MSM would do their job and honestly report this story, we would know the whole truth. But we know where this administration stands on that issue.

How’s that Hope and Change working out for you?

Atlanta Media Guy on April 30, 2010 at 8:18 AM

Yo Harry, you moron. We’ve already done this once before. It didn’t work. So STFU! You’re shelf life is set to expire in November so get ready to hold a real job, jackass.

TrickyDick on April 30, 2010 at 8:34 AM

I just don’t understand why is is soooo unacceptable for some people to have to carry their ID’s on them but the “fix” for that is for me, who is here legally and has done nothing wrong, to have to carry a new biometric ID.

myrenovations on April 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM

Here we go again. Coming from a “an evil racist banker” per THE WON I have a few ideas.

Solution. Here you go.

1. Secure the border. And I mean secure the border. No virtual BS.
A. Solid wall. Anti vehicle ditch with a two tier section of chain link fence.
B. On top of the wall, motion detection sensors with flood lights and cameras.
C. Using existing automated technology, paintball type guns which shoot tear gas powder pellets
(so if you approach and climb over the first layer of fence guess what you get a face full of?)
(maybe mix a fluorescent paint pellet to make finding the person in the dark easier and safer)
D. Establish patrol command centers from which border agents can monitor a section of the border from safety
E. Fast action patrols from centralized helicopter pads to deal with people that don’t get the message.
F. For the green types, use of solar energy in the SW empty expanses
G. Expand size of legal border crossing points
H. Best of all, $1 per head coming AND going (huge revenue upside on holiday & spring break weekends)
(fines go it the border maintenance fund…..in perpetuity. This way future politicians can’t raid the fund)
I. Hire a VISA/MasterCard type to establish an National ID checking system
J. Hire a company to handle the visa requests
K.. ENFORCE THE LAW (no exceptions)
1st offense….fine
2nd offense…larger fine and some free negative advertising (The State of AZ does it to drunk drivers)
3rd offense….massive fine and continued random monitoring (The State of AZ does it bars to spot check the no smoking law)

L. Any illegal ALIENS apprehended get deported.

*This is my plan subject to add’l add on features since I did this in less than 10 minutes

I’m tired of hearing of about we can’t do this and we can’t do that. I say BS! If we put a guy on the frakkin moon then we can secure our borders. This makes it safer for our nation, our families and will create new job opportunities for legal residents. This will also decrease the massive amounts of amounts of social services and payments being paid out. “Anchor babies?” Will guess what? The child still retains their citizenship and can stay in the US but if mom/dad leave then the family has to make a choice. Sorry if that sounds harsh but the parents made a decision to break the law and hope we would be candy asses and allow them to stay. What do we do if the media shows a family “being torn apart?” How about running some clips of the degradation of schools, hospitals and the environment due to illegal ALIEN activity. If we have the courage of our convictions to enforce our borders and the law then this problem will sort it self out.

Return home, come through the front door when invited and I will be there with a smile and handshake to greet into this great nation.

Sorry for the long post but sometimes…………….

VikingGoneWild on April 30, 2010 at 9:31 AM

There are enough immigration laws on the books right now and we wouldn’t have this situation now if they had been enforced from the beginning on the southern border. Since they weren’t, we should be targeting companies that hire illegals, securing the border, providing transportation back to Mexico(bus), and stop worrying about separating families. If they don’t want to be separated, they can all go back together. We need to change the law about becoming a citizen if born here if the parent is illegal. Tough, you betcha.

Kissmygrits on April 30, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Is anyone planning a counter-protest for May 1st?

HornetSting on April 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM

AzTeaParty is calling for a rally at the state capitol, but it looks kind of quiet. Honestly it might be a good time to lay low and give the Hispanic community a chance to vent. I believe the potential for violence is high and would expect a very large turn out considering SB1070 and Cinco De Mayo day. (a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride)

Hunker down and keep your powder dry…for now.

Badbrucskie on April 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Under the proposal, illegal immigrants currently in the United States would be eligible for legal status in eight years, as long as they learned English, had not committed a crime and paid their taxes.

.
In other words, under the democrats proposal,
all “illegal immigrants currently in the United States”
Do.
Not.
Have.
To.
Leave.

They all get to stay (if)until they meet these “requirements”.
This is nothing more than an amnesty bill.

mrt721 on April 30, 2010 at 12:18 PM

even Grahamnesty’s pushing the “borders first”

It took Graham and McCain about eight years to understand the four words “Secure the borders first”.

Meanwhile Bush and Rove are still trying to understand those four words.

RJL on April 30, 2010 at 12:24 PM

A national ID card for citizens? Weren’t we just bombarded with “Nazi! Fascist! UnAmerican to demand people to ‘Show Papers’” over asking for a drivers license in Arizona?

And now they want a National Freaking ID Card? Huh? Put the burden of proof on the American Citizen to prove they are here legally? Every Citizen must now pay for an ID? Just nucking FUTZ!

DaMav on April 30, 2010 at 12:27 PM

8 years is fine. AFTER they stand in line like the legal immigrants.

maintenanceman on April 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM

The Mexicans are right. You should read Ulysses S. Grant’s autobiography to understand why, for example, the US supported Texas’ bid for sekession from Mexico.
unclesmrgol on April 29, 2010 at 9:41 PM

California is even more complicated – a bit of a mix of conquest (as part of a larger war), treaty concessions (sort of formalizing the conquest), and secession (in the sense that many Californios were pretty darned sick of Mexico’s treatment of California, which included sending an army of – literally – bandits to overthrow California’s governor).

Calling that “stolen” is just abusing language, unless you’re prepared to say that ALL of Mexico was “stolen” from the Indians.

There’s no logic at all in saying territory needs to be returned by a conqueror to a previous conqueror and not the one before that. I wonder if the Aztecs stole that land from somebody…

Merovign on April 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Oh, for God’s sake, HA. Your censor software has gone haywire.

Merovign on April 30, 2010 at 2:23 PM