Reporters surprised to find White House is thin-skinned and controlling

posted at 3:12 pm on April 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s a long piece, but don’t be daunted. This is the most fun you’ll have all day. If you can’t spare time for all of it, at least read the section on “Getting mad.” Oh, and the part in the Gibbs section where Gibbsy sets up a big dinner with the press corps during a trip to Prague and then just flakes out. The nutshell:

Reporters say the White House is thin-skinned, controlling, eager to go over their heads and stingy with even basic information. All White Houses try to control the message. But this White House has pledged to be more open than its predecessors, and reporters feel it doesn’t live up to that pledge in several key areas:

— Day-to-day interaction with Obama is almost nonexistent, and he talks to the press corps far less often than Bill Clinton or even George W. Bush did. Clinton took questions nearly every weekday, on average. Obama barely does it once a week.

— The ferocity of pushback is intense. A routine press query can draw a string of vitriolic e-mails. A negative story can draw a profane high-decibel phone call or worse. Some reporters feel like they’ve been frozen out after crossing the White House.

— Except toward a few reporters, press secretary Robert Gibbs can be distant and difficult to reach — even though his job is to be one of the main conduits from president to press. “It’s an odd White House where it’s easier to get the White House chief of staff on the phone than the White House press secretary,” one top reporter said.

— And at the very moment many reporters feel shut out, one paper — The New York Times — enjoys a favoritism from Obama and his staff that makes competitors fume, with gift-wrapped scoops and loads of presidential face time.

A reporter from the New Yorker quoted in the piece seems surprised to find them still practicing campaign-style message control, which is not unlike being surprised to find McDonald’s serving fast food. Hasn’t the “perpetual campaign” been part of their strategy since the beginning, replete with maintaining their 2008 online presence (even if it has been underutilized) and conducting whirlwind national tours to push their platform (even if they are spectacularly unsuccessful)? Advertising is their core business, and advertisers are necessarily control freaks. Beyond that, though, The One frankly can afford to tell the press to piss off. He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him, especially with the wicked Republican “teabaggers” suddenly threatening Democratic power. And he knows that widespread contempt for the media will never allow the public to side with them against him — due in part, ironically, to the fact that the media itself helped shape perceptions of this guy as being as guileless as a cross between Bambi and Jesus. I make a living off criticizing The One and even I can’t help relishing the thought of him flipping off some of the same people who sold him as a type of avatar sent to deliver America from its political and racial sins. You wanted him? You got him. Be more careful next time.

Update: From the Anchoress:

It reminds me a little of that scene in Ferris Beuller’s Day Off, when Ferris opines that Cameron will marry the first girl who has sex with him, but “She won’t respect him,” Ferris says, “’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn’t work.”


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I think we found another use for “unexpected” if the media is genuinely surprised by this revelation.

Yakko77 on April 28, 2010 at 3:14 PM

They sold their souls long before BHO got to the White House…

d1carter on April 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

This is the same press corp that’s SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED that throwing fistfuls of taxpayer money down the flush-hole of the federal government’s “stimulus” plan didn’t magically create billions of “green jobs” – or any jobs, for that matter.

Good Lt on April 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Marxists only like favorable reporting.

darwin on April 28, 2010 at 3:16 PM

If there is another “next time,” that is.

NTWR on April 28, 2010 at 3:17 PM

We will keep seeing more and more buyer’s remorse where this administration is concerned.

EconomicNeocon on April 28, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Uh, what exactly did you think you were getting?
How stupid.
What I find most appalling? That the media/left have no idea what the center and the right are saying. This is a POTUS who has more unknowns than any other president in history. If the media and the left had just listened to that one claim there would be no surprise.
They must like their fingers in their ears.

ORconservative on April 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM

It has to kill them to say that BOOOSH was more hospitable than their current Messiah.

search4truth on April 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM

The Lamestream Media is the trailer park girl who keeps going back to the loser who beats the crap out of her every weekend. “But I love him.”

Cicero43 on April 28, 2010 at 3:19 PM

This will all be settled when Obama Nationalizes the media.

I wonder who will be his first Media Cabinet member? Chris Matthews?

portlandon on April 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM

The ferocity of pushback is intense. A routine press query can draw a string of vitriolic e-mails. A negative story can draw a profane high-decibel phone call or worse. Some reporters feel like they’ve been frozen out after crossing the White House.

That’s the Chicago way, chumps. The Obamacrats are thugs, liars, bullies and kneecappers. The only thing they understand is Chicagoland gutter politics, and that’s what they’ve been doing since day one.

Nice of you fools to finally catch on – it’s hard to catch on when you have to have your lips surgically removed from the President’s backside, though.

Good Lt on April 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM

What do you want, media? Can’t you just leave the man in peace to eat his waffle?!?!

patriette on April 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM

These schmucks are the cause of our decline in the advent of BozObama. They are just as shocked as Dracula’s next victim when the vampire goes for their jugular.

Gob on April 28, 2010 at 3:21 PM

You mean Zero and his Merry Marxist Marching Society is thin skinned, petulant, inconsiderate and generally anti-social to those who don’t worship at the Alter of The One?

Who’da thunk??

SeniorD on April 28, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Beyond that, though, The One frankly can afford to tell the press to piss off. He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him, especially with the wicked Republican “teabaggers” suddenly threatening Democratic power

I’m so glad you said this. It’s their political sympathies that also encumber them—they keep failing to fulfill their liberal fantasies with the information that is before them. Openness? no. Transparency? nyet. Competence and deference to the press? Piss off–talk to the hand.

The press is reduced to a sycophantic bunch of milk sops, just ogling and angling to get the next little tidbit from the King’s table, like a cloister of little birdies in a nest with their mouths agape….just tweeting away…. “oh feed me, feed me, I helped get you elected so just feed me, please!”

ted c on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

“Some reporters feel like they’ve been frozen out after crossing the White House.”

Looks like someone forgot to stand when Obowma entered the room…

Seven Percent Solution on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

The ferocity of pushback is intense. A routine press query can draw a string of vitriolic e-mails. A negative story can draw a profane high-decibel phone call or worse. Some reporters feel like they’ve been frozen out after crossing the White House.

Richard Nixon was not available for comment.

Knucklehead on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Oh, and the part in the Gibbs section where Gibbsy sets up a big dinner with the press corps during a trip to Prague and then just flakes out.

That’s just classic:

Eventually, the press gave up and headed out on some late-night sightseeing. As they strolled the Charles Bridge, they ran into Gibbs, who was doing the same. Asked about the dinner appointment, Gibbs said the White House group had simply decided to grab some pizza.

Best part?…the press made all the arrangements and paid for it on Gibbs behest…hahahaha.

AUINSC on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Oh, and guess what MSM…………..we are only one year in baby!

And of course if things turn out the way you want them to, you got 7 YEARS LEFT of thuggery, bullying, spin and outright disdain for any media or citizenry that opposes this gestapo’s agenda

Opposite Day on April 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Then was this really an accident at the Washington Post? Where a photo of Malcolm x was placed where a story about the President and Iowa Windmills was the article?

http://gawker.com/5525783/the-washington-post-cannot-tell-obama-from-malcolm-x

Dr Evil on April 28, 2010 at 3:25 PM

I make a living off criticizing The One and even I can’t help relishing the thought of him flipping off some of the same people who sold him as a type of avatar sent to deliver America from its political and racial sins. You wanted him? You got him. Be more careful next time.

that’s money right there AP. he’s biting the hand that fed him and I hope he reaps what he hath sown… But, their political sympathies as you’ve mentioned….

not holding breath….

ted c on April 28, 2010 at 3:25 PM

The Outrage!!!!11!!1!!

Who would have thunk, those who kiss the butt most of the hand that feeds them, would be the one too get the “O” prize. The “O” has a funny smell to it as well.

upinak on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Phony! Do not swallow that they are just copping on this. More like they’ve decided to come out and say it to force Obalmy into changing tactics. The fact that it’s true is not important to them. It’s their own bread they are buttering.

jeanie on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

even I can’t help relishing the thought of him flipping off some of the same people who sold him as a type of avatar sent to deliver America from its political and racial sins. You wanted him? You got him. Be more careful next time.

There’s a double whammy brewing for the press. Eventually, non-ideologues may notice the screaming 400 pound gorilla double standard in the room with the way they treat the administration and everyone else. Like many conservatives, the independents may soon regard the MSM as anti-news, or mere propaganda.

joeindc44 on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Richard Nixon was not available for comment.

Knucklehead on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

This Administration has reporters in agreement with their policy. Imagine how they would act if the reporters started taking them on.

INC on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Well, no sh-t, Sherlock! The media made it very clear they were in the tank for Obama dating back all the way to the 2004 Democrat Convention. And after carrying the water for him in 2007 and 2008 and providing overwhelmingly favorable coverage for the first 15+ months of his Presidency, you guys are actually surprised to find yourselves being taken for granted?

You wanna get the White House to check themselves? You have only one option. Every single member of the media needs to pretend they work for FoxNews. Treat this administration like you’re Bret Baier in that infamous interview. If everyone stops treating Obama and his cronies with kid gloves, they’ll have no recourse but to offer the media more respect and transparency. And God forbid, the country may be better off for it.

The odds of this happening: 0%.

Doughboy on April 28, 2010 at 3:27 PM

It’s exciting watching stupid people learn something!

Inanemergencydial on April 28, 2010 at 3:27 PM

He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him, especially with the wicked Republican “teabaggers” suddenly threatening Democratic power.

Where ya gonna go, fluffers?

SKYFOX on April 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Shades of Richard Nixon…..*sigh*

sicoit on April 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM

This Administration has reporters in agreement with their policy. Imagine how they would act if the reporters started taking them on.

INC on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Can you imagine what Nixon could have done with a Blackberry, computer and internet service?

Knucklehead on April 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Obama is a Chavez wannabe.

Daggett on April 28, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Any comments on skin will be considered racist.

Tommy_G on April 28, 2010 at 3:31 PM

OT: Reid says GOP is anti-American for opposing his bills

ConservativePartyNow on April 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM

OT

‘Glenn Beck’: GM’s Fuzzy Math

Glenn Beck’s Bucket List :)

Dr Evil on April 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM

How do you spell “adnausium”

saiga on April 28, 2010 at 3:35 PM

It reminds me a little of that scene in Ferris Beuller’s Day Off, when Ferris opines that Cameron will marry the first girl who has sex with him, but “She won’t respect him,” Ferris says, “’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn’t work.”

PERFECT

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM

He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him,

indeed, they will prop him up til the bitter end…

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:39 PM

ted c on April 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

+1

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Stockholm syndrome.

the_nile on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

I feel so sorry for the WH Press Corp. It must be difficult to wake up after 2 years of drinking the kool-aid, a sore bottom, and a 10 dollar bill on the dresser.

milwife88 on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

They will not sell him out as AP said because he is the press, and the press is him. Made from the same Fascist mold.

Another reason they will not change their stripes regarding President Lightbulb is because of amnesty. They need to illegals to boost their ratings and buy the bird cage liner, a.k.a. the NYT, Time and Newsweek.

I for one hope we take back the country and bleed them all to death. No money, no sponsors, no viewers or readers, no lies! Take that you nutbag Fifth Column media morons!

freeus on April 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM

He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him

I think this case between POTUS and his merry band of knob gobblers and knee pad testers should be analyzed from the standpoint of a battered wife.

She gets beat, again and again and again, yet keeps coming back for more, each and every time “for the kids” she says. “I’ll do better” he says. Well, one day, maybe she’ll have enough. What’s it take to get a woman to leave an abusive husband?

ted c on April 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM

INC on April 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Heck, half of his staff are former journalists, no?

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Update: From the Anchoress:

Yeah, I hit that link…she references neo-neocon. Both are great reads!

AUINSC on April 28, 2010 at 3:43 PM

“The way we live these days, something that’s wrong can whip around and become part of the conventional wisdom in only a matter of moments, and it’s hard to take it, put a top on it and put in back into the box,” Gibbs said. “That’s the nature by which the business operates right now. … This isn’t unique in terms of us, and it’s likely to be more true for the next administration.”

Give Gibbs credit for knowing their days are numbered and Sarah will won’t have it any easier.

sleepy-beans on April 28, 2010 at 3:43 PM

milwife88 on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

lolol

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Dr Evil on April 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM

KEEP YOUR REAL NEWS OFF THE SQUISH BLOG!

Inanemergencydial on April 28, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Tomorrow, the NYT and the White House press corps will play out a scene from Seinfeld in which Kramer spends the first part of the show trying to figure out how to dump someone. Then, at the end of the show, he’s pleading hysterically, “Take me back. Please take me back.”

BuckeyeSam on April 28, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Oh, and the part in the Gibbs section where Gibbsy sets up a big dinner with the press corps during a trip to Prague and then just flakes out.

A.k.a., the press corpse – this is indeed a lot of fun.

It all couldn’t happen to a greater bunch of imbecillic Obama-sex-addicts.

Schadenfreude on April 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM

OT Breaking: Republicans cave… will allow debate to go forward on financial overhaul.

Enoxo on April 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Anyone know how to spell “adnausium” correctly?

saiga on April 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Enoxo on April 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM

huh…the 3rd vote will down, is this the 4th vote?

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:48 PM

saiga on April 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM

ad nauseam

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Beyond that, though, The One frankly can afford to tell the press to piss off. He knows their political sympathies will never let them really turn on him, especially with the wicked Republican “teabaggers” suddenly threatening Democratic power.

And he knows that widespread contempt for the media will never allow the public to side with them against him — due in part, ironically, to the fact that the media itself helped shape perceptions of this guy as being as guileless as a cross between Bambi and Jesus.

You deserve another raise, AP.

Schadenfreude on April 28, 2010 at 3:49 PM

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Thanks so much.

saiga on April 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Hell hath no fury…

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Obama was right up front…any attack on his policies would be met with a greater counter attack, nothing will be left unanswered in the most provocative way.
That is how it was during the campaign, and still is.
The journalists know it, and are afraid of it. Obama has his boys carrying the water, and he is happy with who they are.
He has plenty to do his bidding, and the ones who complain, they are just shut out.
Which means people like the NYT just gets bigger and better scoops.
The problem is, they can only “scoop” what is given to them so they miss the ACORN, Tea Party, voter intimidation, Planned Parenthood, and many other stories…making them basically only about 10% effective.

right2bright on April 28, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Palin/Bueller 2012.

Lockstein13 on April 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM

saiga on April 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM

:)

cmsinaz on April 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM

I feel so sorry for the WH Press Corp. It must be difficult to wake up after 2 years of drinking the kool-aid, a sore bottom, and a 10 dollar bill on the dresser.

milwife88 on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Ouch! Truth hurts. ( :

yoda on April 28, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Maybe I’m totally cynical but there’s something more going on here than just controlling the message. They are hiding the unscripted Obama just as they are hiding his whole life history. That’s why we have the overuse of TOTUS and totally controlled events. They don’t trust him. He has a bad habit of revealing too much about his radical agenda.

His whole life is a sham from his phony writer creds to his sham marriage. I doubt even he knows the truth anymore.

No Niks on April 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM

The press remind me of the Twilight Zone episode were the guy dies and thinks he goes to heaven but finds out he’s really in hell….

“A scared, angry little man who never got a break. Now he has everything he’s ever wanted- and he’s going to have to live with it for eternity in the Twilight Zone”

Caper29 on April 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM

They sold their souls long before BHO got to the White House…

d1carter on April 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Started with Uncle Waltor “reporting” from Vietnam, continued with Nixon, and then they refused to break the story of what Bill Clinton was doing with a female workplace subordinate in the workplace.

But what really sent them around the bend was what happened in December of 2000. They lost all sanity after that.

Del Dolemonte on April 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM

“A scared, angry little man who never got a break. Now he has everything he’s ever wanted- and he’s going to have to live with it for eternity in the Twilight Zone”

Caper29 on April 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Sounds like a perfect description of NY Times Theatre Critic Frank Rich.

Del Dolemonte on April 28, 2010 at 4:09 PM

The reporters only surprise is that the White House would be thin-skinned and controlling with THEM, too, not simply with domestic opponents and foreign allies.

maverick muse on April 28, 2010 at 4:11 PM

WH Press Corpse back in their Masters lap doing what lapdogs do in…..5…..4……3…..

PappyD61 on April 28, 2010 at 4:13 PM

It reminds me a little of that scene in Ferris Beuller’s Day Off, when Ferris opines that Cameron will marry the first girl who has sex with him, but “She won’t respect him,” Ferris says, “’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn’t work.”

It’s true.

Ferris on April 28, 2010 at 4:14 PM

This will all be settled when Obama Nationalizes the media.

I wonder who will be his first Media Cabinet member? Chris Matthews?

Nein! That shall be Herr Olberman.

Onus on April 28, 2010 at 4:15 PM

“I saved you,” cried that woman
“And you’ve bit me even, why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I’m going to die”
“Oh shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin
“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in”

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM

I’m surprised the Major Garrett flap was not in this story. That was huge, and what’s more, it got out to the general public.

pookysgirl on April 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Sounds like a perfect description of NY Times Theatre Critic Frank Rich.

Del Dolemonte on April 28, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Frank hasn’t begun to realize he’s in hell yet. :-)

Caper29 on April 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Started with Uncle Waltor “reporting” from Vietnam, continued with Nixon, and then they refused to break the story of what Bill Clinton was doing with a female workplace subordinate in the workplace.

But what really sent them around the bend was what happened in December of 2000. They lost all sanity after that.

Del Dolemonte on April 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM

I agree, but I think the genesis was Murrow taking on McCarthy, who while he had it pegged perfectly, was the wrong frontman.

The media with ERM as the dragonslayer, have fraudulently wrapped themselves in the flag ever since, all the while hating America and their readers.

ontherocks on April 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM

since, all the while hating America and their readers.

ontherocks on April 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM

….and viewers.

ontherocks on April 28, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Lamestream media?
how about “Obama Ministry or Propaganda and Misinformation” instead?
He lies and they swear to it.

Army Brat on April 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Since most of the press has never read the Ten Commandments, they haven’t read that “thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain”.

Barry O’s religious training is somewhere between Wright’s “God d@mn AmeriKKKa” and Farrakhan’s “Obama is the Messiah”, therefore He permitteth not that the press taketh His name in vain, and d@mneth America.

So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

/New York Slimes

Steve Z on April 28, 2010 at 4:39 PM

How big is the undercarriage of Barack’s bus anyway? It appears to be akin to a ritz cracker, there’s always room for one more.

Ritz cracker, is that racist?

booter on April 28, 2010 at 4:39 PM

And at the very moment many reporters feel shut out, one paper — The New York Times — enjoys a favoritism from Obama and his staff that makes competitors fume, with gift-wrapped scoops and loads of presidential face time.

Obama must have told Helen Thomas that she was beautiful, and it went to her head and she’ll write anything he wants.

That wouldn’t work with Megyn Kelly !

Steve Z on April 28, 2010 at 4:45 PM

— The ferocity of pushback is intense. A routine press query can draw a string of vitriolic e-mails. A negative story can draw a profane high-decibel phone call or worse. Some reporters feel like they’ve been frozen out after crossing the White House.

I wonder what reaction the press will get if they start talking to former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich about his subpoena of Obama, regarding the sale of his Senate seat. Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s preference for the Senate, is now in the White House.

Then watch the fit hit the shan!

Steve Z on April 28, 2010 at 4:51 PM

It reminds me a little of that scene in Ferris Beuller’s Day Off, when Ferris opines that Cameron will marry the first girl who has sex with him, but “She won’t respect him,” Ferris says, “’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. It just doesn’t work.”

I can’t think of a better metaphor.

Great movie too! Boww Woww, Chicka Chick KA!

Ferris: You speak English?
Garage Valet: Uhh, what country do you think this is?

alohapundit on April 28, 2010 at 5:00 PM

This is the control method used by a narcissistic passive-aggressive. Since Øbummer could care less what the WHPC feels, he recognizes only how intensely sycophantic the scribblers can be.
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Since the effective passive-aggressive knows when to apply the emotional controls, and in which direction, the sycophantic press corps is left both dreading and hoping for attention from Teh Won. Too bad the WHPC doesn’t have a prearranged “control word” to mumble when the excruciating pressure of the dominant becomes too intense.
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The WHPC could squeal to signify Deliverance.

ExpressoBold on April 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM

milwife88 on April 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM

You left out the part where the pressers’ calls to ask why the WH insisted that they need to get tested, and soon, go unanswered.

ya2daup on April 28, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I still like the imagery of John McCain standing at the alter in his dress whites waiting to consummate the relationship he thought he had with the media during the Bush years only to find out the media got Øbama’s name tattooed on their butt, fell into the back seat of his sports car and sped off in a hail of empty beer cans.

I hope he gets some solace knowing that the brash young stud for whom he was jilted is proving to be a disappointment to his former lover.

Kafir on April 28, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Oh, to be a journalist in DC right about now…I wouldn’t last long, but I’d have a he!! of a lot of fun slamming phones down and persistently asking annoying questions until I got fired.

uncivilized on April 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Bush 41 and 43 had extremely thick skin. Obama can’t take a bit of a gnat without screaming at the top of his lungs.

SC.Charlie on April 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Every lib rat press outfit wanted to be the Leni Riefensthal of their time , and were willing to do what it takes.

borntoraisehogs on April 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Their Gomer Pyle moment: Surprise surprise!

Dhuka on April 28, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Wasn’t it Ace who called for ‘Vetting the Media‘ ? Seems that BHO’s got his media butt-boys very well trained.

The Social Democrats vetted ‘em first.

Serr8d on April 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM