Actual AP headline: “Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law”

posted at 9:30 pm on April 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

That’s tonight’s headline. Tomorrow’s headline, inevitably? “Border states scramble to emulate Arizona’s new law.”

Fortunately for these poor victims of conservo-Nazi persecution, there’s a scrupulously tolerant safe haven nearby. And I hear the mayor’s fantastic.

“Nobody wants to pick us up,” Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants…

An estimated 100,000 illegal immigrants have left Arizona in the past two years as it cracked down on illegal immigration and its economy was especially hard hit by the Great Recession. A Department of Homeland Security report on illegal immigrants estimates Arizona’s illegal immigrant population peaked in 2008 at 560,000, and a year later dipped to 460,000.

The law’s supporters hope the departure of illegal immigrants will help dismantle part of the underground economy here and create jobs for thousands of legal residents in a state with a 9.6 percent unemployment rate.

Elsewhere tonight, Obama finally acknowledged that Congress might not have an appetite for immigration reform this year after tackling one controversial issue already, by which of course he meant the unpopular, pitiful clusterfark known as ObamaCare. Quoth the AP, “[H]e says there needs to be a lot of work done on immigration and he wants to come up with solutions that can get broad support from the American people.” Am I mistaken or don’t we already have “broad support” for the idea that there needs to be much more done to enforce the border? In fact, if memory serves, the notion that federal inaction forced Arizona to act is now an official White House talking point. Consider this, then, yet another reminder of how phony The One’s pragmatism is. He could champion a widely popular border-enforcement bill with a promise to revisit the subject later to pursue amnesty, but that would cause political problems for him among Latinos. So instead he’ll go on complaining about how problematic Arizona’s law is while blaming Congress for doing nothing.

Now that I’ve blown your mind with the AP headline, I’m going to blow it again. Brace yourselves, my friends … for Chris Matthews — unlikely voice of reason.

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One’s fondess for illegal immigration varies proportionally with distance from the border.

Haiku Guy on April 29, 2010 at 7:57 AM

It’s as if:

The Germans ’43 became upset about the poor service in a cafe along the Avenue des Champs d’Elysees… and left.

The North Koreans found the kimchi in Seoul in ’51 completely inadequate… and left.

The cocaine-addled boutique boneheads found the rustic beauty of Aspen to be more barbaric than serene… and left.

The IRS agents conducting your audit became incensed at the amount of Fair Tax literature you have in your office… and left.

It’s all cause for so much tearful sorrow…
Don’t go! We’ll change!

Doorgunner on April 29, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Terrye on April 29, 2010 at 6:40 AM

we are crying buckets here
:)

cmsinaz on April 29, 2010 at 8:00 AM

what gets me is that they acknowledge that they are illegal, they are not hiding it, they are proud of it…

cmsinaz on April 29, 2010 at 8:02 AM

They need to go to California, to San Francisco. All illegals are to be welcomed in the bay area. Also, the Mayor of San Francisco has announced, along with the Board of Supervisors, that if illegals come to their city, that they won’t be bothered by law enforcement. Mayor Newsom said that it doesn’t matter if you belong to a gang, or if you’re a criminal with a past. He welcomes you to San Francisco. They also have lots of free government programs in San Francisco, so it would be the ideal place for you. Good luck in California, they are waiting with open arms.

Mark7788 on April 29, 2010 at 8:04 AM

A broken analog watch is correct twice a day.

Meanwhile, I will debate my local pals across the aisle any day, any time on the merits of kicking illegals out of the country. Does that make me a racist?

Go on, make the charge. I double dog dare you.

itzWicks on April 29, 2010 at 8:17 AM

If anything spells Armageddon with a capital A it’s Matthews being right about something.

We’re cooked!

Mr. Grump on April 29, 2010 at 8:27 AM

I just hope they go THROUGH Nevada onto the people’s republik of Kalifornia.

Mojave Mark on April 29, 2010 at 8:36 AM

From the PR thread, I wanted to state this:

It has been exhausting to be a Republican here, fighting against my fellow Republicans. I dunno how long I’ll hang out hereat HotAir. To feel rejected like this *shaking head, frustrated*, hurts my feelings immensely.

ProudPalinFan on April 29, 2010 at 8:42 AM

ProudPalinFan on April 29, 2010 at 8:43 AM

what gets me is that they acknowledge that they are illegal, they are not hiding it, they are proud of it…

cmsinaz on April 29, 2010 at 8:02 AM

Yes, and all the bleeding-heart Libs think that millions of people who’ve spent years (some have spent their entire lives) living outside the law (and getting away with it, easily) are suddenly going to start behaving like taxpaying, law-abiding citizens just as soon as they’re handed a visa. Their contempt for our laws will magically transform into respect, overnight.

They’ve spent years gaming the system and profiting from it, and we’re supposed to believe that their lawless behavior will stop as soon as they no longer fear deportation — except that the vast majority of them never feared deportation to begin with, since it happens to such a tiny percentage, and when it does happen, it’s very easy to just come back in and pick up where they left off.

But I guess we’re not supposed to question the wisdom of rewarding people for years of successfully flouting the laws. We’ll just cross our fingers and hope for the best, because to do anything else would undoubtedly be raaaaacist.

AZCoyote on April 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM

One’s fondess for illegal immigration varies proportionally with distance from the border.

Haiku Guy on April 29, 2010 at 7:57 AM

Not so.

jeanie on April 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM

AZCoyote on April 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM

amen

cmsinaz on April 29, 2010 at 9:12 AM

Strange New Respect?

No. I don’t think so.

Jaibones on April 29, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Gov. Brewer was on Greta last night and explained the law to her. Greta said she would reread a portion that she wanted to clarify for herself. At last, clear thinking,good questions and exchange. The lawyer who helped write the bill was on Hannity and tried to explain it but kept getting interrupted by someone who obviously didn’t understand it. The misunderstanding promoted by the media will be hard to reverse.

Kissmygrits on April 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law,

That is the whole point of the law.

Vashta.Nerada on April 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Who knew just threatening to violate their civil rights would cause such a reaction in the illegals? They are such thoughtful and respectful members of civil society that the mere whiff of injustice is anathema to them and they must search out a more just home/

txmomof6 on April 29, 2010 at 10:03 AM

…which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally…

Oh
My
God

Really?

Ortzinator on April 29, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law,

Anybody want to start a fundraiser effort with me to arrange a fleet of charter buses to drive all those in AZ one-way to San Fransisco at no charge?

Just a thought.

scituate_tgr on April 29, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Two things conservatives like to say:

Our constitutional rights aren’t granted to us by government. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution simply recognises them.

Illegal immigrants and terrorist suspects don’t have constitutional rights because they’re not American citizens.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM

ProudPalinFan on April 29, 2010 at 8:43 AM

You’re being way too sensitive. Don’t mistake differences of opinion for personal attacks. You are doing O.K.

a capella on April 29, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Two things conservatives like to say:

Our constitutional rights aren’t granted to us by government. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution simply recognises them.

Illegal immigrants and terrorist suspects don’t have constitutional rights because they’re not American citizens.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Everyone has natural rights except when their actions are injurious to the natural rights of others.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM

If the unemployment rate is close to 10% in AZ, then illegals aliens should not be able to find work.
Legal citizens should be holding those jobs.
I get an agricultural paper up here in the Northern Plains that has had some editorials in it about this AZ thing whining about what this might do to the ag labor force.
It IS true that Americans do not want to do manual labor.
Bee keeprs here in ND, for example,wait expectantly for their chance at workers w/ visas from countries like S. Africa who are wanting to come here for work at 8-10$/hr.
I don’t know if they pay benefits.
It is rediculous that if you are out of work that you are too proud to do jobs like this.
I’ve done a lot of manual labor in my time & I’d do it now if I had to.
But that’s why I went to college & got a degree that allows me to make more $$ & get a job w/ benefits.
Illegals are distorting our job market & the employers who employ them need to be taken care of by being PROSECUTED to the fullest extent of the law.
This means ANYONE who knowingly employs an illegal, i.e. a nanny an ag worker, contruction worker etc…
Illegals are NOT welcome in the US.
Legal aliens ARE.
Welfare benefits need to be curtailed even more to force people to take jobs they don’t want simply bcs they can make more $$ sitting on their a$$.
Now here in ND welfare benefits are generous.
And there are a lot of people coming in from all areas of the country just to collect in our small rural towns & sit on their a$$e$, complaining there’s no ‘work’.
I got some work building fence.
Ask someone to do this, they talk about how they are ‘disabled’ or ‘unable’ to perform such labor when I know doggone well they are fully capable.
Medical examinations should be required of all welfare recipients.
And if they can do this kind of work, there’s no excuse & their benefits should be terminated if they refuse work, even if they feel it’s beneath them.
It’s LIFE.
Get out illegals & watch Americans who are NOT too proud to do work they feel is ‘beneath’ them bcs all they want to do is honestly provide for their families instead of taking an easy handout!
WHEW! I’m done now.

Badger40 on April 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Our constitutional rights aren’t granted to us by government. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution simply recognises them.

I don’t know who says this, except possibly the Declaration of Independence (“endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights…”). Our Constitutional rights are granted to us because we adopted them. The power to govern comes from the consent of the governed, and the Constitution is what we all (citizens) consented to.

Illegal immigrants do not (or should not, idk where SCOTUS is at the moment) have Constitutional rights. They have human rights, like the right to due process and the right to habeus corpus, and the right to be treated humanely while in custody. But they are not entitled to a jury of their peers, they are not entitled to bear arms, and they are not entitled to assemble. They are entitled to be arrested and deported after a basic process to determine that they are indeed unlawfully present in the US.

alwaysfiredup on April 29, 2010 at 10:18 AM

If illegal amnesty needs support like health care then Obama needs over 25% of the people behind him and the law. Piss off you other 75%.

jukin on April 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally

Working as intended, no matter the contoversy, if other border states see this working (california aside) I do expect to see similar States rights enforcement bills or solutions come forward. In the bigger picture this might atually be a boon to small govt momentum in highlighting the ineffectiveness of big Federal govt. Emphasizing the States govt much more effctive and immediate control of issues.

Koa on April 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM

The headline should read:

“Illegal immigrants unexpectedly returning to Mexico”

LibertyBoyNYC on April 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Two things conservatives like to say:

Our constitutional rights aren’t granted to us by government. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution simply recognises them.

Illegal immigrants and terrorist suspects don’t have constitutional rights because they’re not American citizens.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Well, the first one is really just the faith of the pro-lifers.

Count to 10 on April 29, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Everyone has natural rights except when their actions are injurious to the natural rights of others.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Though there are ways to be both an illegal alien and suspected of terrorism without actually having harmed another human being.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Illegal immigrants do not (or should not, idk where SCOTUS is at the moment) have Constitutional rights. They have human rights, like the right to due process and the right to habeus corpus, and the right to be treated humanely while in custody. But they are not entitled to a jury of their peers, they are not entitled to bear arms, and they are not entitled to assemble. They are entitled to be arrested and deported after a basic process to determine that they are indeed unlawfully present in the US

I agree and it is the Declaration that says we are endowed by our creator to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Those are basic human rights under the Declaration and they do apply to everyone everywhere. The Declaration however was just that a Declaration. It is not the law of the land, that would be the constitution.

Illegal’s are free to go back to the country of their origin and demand those rights, and they can feel free to enjoy living in this country under the umbrella of our belief in these rights just as long as they put forth the same time and effort getting themselves legal as they do bitching about and spinning how unfair this all is.

@ntif@n on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

People forget there are legal ports of entry. They let people in. There is a reason the lawbreakers do not want to respect the legal way. Folks, stop acting like jumping the fence is the only way in.
Mexico is part of he problem when companies opened factories down there, the gubment demanded bribes and kickbacks and created a hostile envoronment. It saved money going to china. My great grand parents lived in Mexico. When my great grand died, his wife moved to Bolivia. Germans are not that rare in the other Americas.

seven on April 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Though there are ways to be both an illegal alien and suspected of terrorism without actually having harmed another human being.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

It goes beyond phyiscal harm. The cost burden of illegals is tremendous and a major factor in rising health care costs. LA County alone spends millions each year just in birthing and child care costs for children of illegals. That cost is passed onto taxpayers and health insurance companies who of course pass that on to consumers and employers.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM

Actual AP headline: “Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law”

Wow. It’s almost like that was the whole point or something.

Bobbertsan on April 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM

ernesto

Our rights are given by God but protected by the government. Finally, we have someone in the government, Gov. Brewer, doing what government is supposed to do!

NebCon on April 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM

I just hope they go THROUGH Nevada onto the people’s republik of Kalifornia.

Mojave Mark on April 29, 2010 at 8:36 AM

Hey! I live in California and I resent that remark!
/s

Actually, I’ve called my home state Kommiefornia for a long while now. It really annoys my bleeding heart old hippie friends when I not so jokingly, and frequently, address them as Komrade.

Gang-of-One on April 29, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Two things conservatives like to say:

Our constitutional rights aren’t granted to us by government. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution simply recognizes them.

Illegal immigrants and terrorist suspects don’t have constitutional rights because they’re not American citizens.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM

That’s a nice catch; however, the thing is, both can be true. Everyone has God-given rights to pursue happiness and all the rest, but not everyone will have those rights recognized by the US Constitution. That’s what conservatives mean when we say the Constitution recognizes them for American citizens but doesn’t for anyone else. We’d still have those rights without the Constitution just as non citizens still have those rights without our Constitution.

Though there are ways to be both an illegal alien and suspected of terrorism without actually having harmed another human being.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

And it’s also possible to run a red light or drive drunk without harming anyone. Doesn’t make it any less a violation of the country’s laws, and that’s what makes it harmful.

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM

It doesn’t even matter what the costs are. They could be bringing in revenue, and it’s still wrong. You don’t get to come into this country and tell it how its laws should be or break those laws when you see that no one’s listening. The only way to come into a country is with the base respect of coming in through the front door.

Mexico understands that with its immigrants but somehow expects us to treat its emigrants differently.

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM

I don’t disagree … I was attempting to point out that harm can come in other forms besides physical.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM

As Curly Bill said in Tombstoneto Wyatt Earp when he left after Morgan’s death…

‘Well…bye.’

austinnelly on April 29, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Don’t let the gate hit you in the butt on your way out!

ultracon on April 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I don’t disagree … I was attempting to point out that harm can come in other forms besides physical.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Sorry. I wasn’t assuming you were disagreeing. I just wanted to take your point and go even further with it. I just disagree with ernesto that breaking the law to get into the country is in and of itself harmless.

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 12:30 PM

So this is what the End of Days looks like. Good to know.

BrideOfRove on April 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Ok, let me be of help here! After you load the van up with family and friends, go west on I-10. You can stop in LA of take I-5 north to San Fran. Now, please drive carefully as I do not wish to hear of another high speed rollover. Oh, also. Please clean up after yourselves when departing as we Arizonans do enough cleaning up after you all now. God speed and enjoy your life as an illegal(sorry) Un-documented immigrant in California.
Another happy Arizona resident. 

Dave M on April 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM

You did the right thing Arizona, and thank you Gov. Brewer.
God Bless

byteshredder on April 29, 2010 at 1:53 PM

leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally

Do AP writers not understand the meaning of the word “illegal” if something is illegal, it’s already a crime.

hawksruleva on April 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM

LA County alone spends millions each year just in birthing and child care costs for children of illegals. That cost is passed onto taxpayers and health insurance companies who of course pass that on to consumers and employers.

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM

And those birthing costs create anchor babies, who give illegals a fig leaf of legality, even though in many cases they broke the law for the purpose of having an anchor baby.

hawksruleva on April 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Here’s your sombrero…what’s your hurry?

seejanemom on April 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Dee2008 on April 29, 2010 at 3:06 AM

If they want to come here, they can follow the law and go through the immigration process. If they don’t do that, then they are already living a life of crime.

Wolftech on April 29, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Though there are ways to be both an illegal alien and suspected of terrorism without actually having harmed another human being.

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Go collect your astro-turfing paycheck from Media Matters and leave REASON to those with actual brains.

By its VERY DEFINITION, ILLEGAL means you have hurt those of us who are NOT illegal by your very presence on OUR soil.

***shut up butthead***

seejanemom on April 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM

darwin on April 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Doesn’t mean they have a right to live here without following the rules to get in.

Wolftech on April 29, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Don’t let the gate hit you in the butt on your way out!

ultracon on April 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM

WHAT F’ing GATE???????

seejanemom on April 29, 2010 at 2:56 PM

ernesto on April 29, 2010 at 10:33 AM

You break the law means you a criminal, regardless if you have hurt anyone.

Whether you want to believe it or not, we have been INVADED from the south.

Wolftech on April 29, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Liberals always rush to the well-watered plains.

Rethuglican on April 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM

seejanemom on April 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Very mature.

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Adiós, muchachos

See ya, don’t wanna be ya,

TheSitRep on April 29, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Obama has this nostalgic fetish for High speed rail. Why not rail from the border to San Frisco no stops in AZ?
We don’t need rail from LA to Vegas. Gambling is forbidden by the ONE.

seven on April 29, 2010 at 5:07 PM

The last illegal immigrant leaving Arizona will NOT have to turn out the light!

Because things are a lot brighter now in that state than they have ever been!

Arizona rocks! (In spite of McCain)

pilamaye on April 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM

America! Arizona now has jobs, jobs, jobs!!

Brae on April 29, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Very mature.

Esthier on April 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM

If not correct.

Inanemergencydial on April 29, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Hey! Lets all go to Mexico, burn their flag while waving ours, and call their government leaders RACISSSSSSST!
I’m sure we’ll get a good rate on a charter bus.

Cybergeezer on April 29, 2010 at 6:52 PM

re: no work for the trespassers, left-coast outrage.

Wager most citizens of Arizona would be happy to buy the bus tickets for the four hour one way drive to the CA border.

aritai on April 29, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Maybe even send those (refigerated) trucks that came to AZ full of California produce back full of trespassers with a list of and directions to CA “refuge” cities.

aritai on April 29, 2010 at 8:24 PM

The AP is shocked, shocked I tell you, that this law will cause illegals to leave Arizona. They’re also blown away by the travesty of a law that “makes being illegal a crime.”

In the words of the software engineers “those are features, not bugs.”

AskMom on April 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Not sure why everyone thinks CA is the promised land for offended AZ illegals. We have no money for free stuff (we’ve reaching the breaking point) and no jobs. The Central Valley has a near 20% unemployment rate, higher in ag communities where illegals are mostly employed. There is nothing here for them.

—–

misty

mistythestripper on April 29, 2010 at 11:01 PM

There’s opportunity here for the enterprising illegal. Rent a bus, advertise that you will be taking illegals to San Francisco for a very reasonable fee and wait for the hoards to come.

jeanie on April 29, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Chris Matthews saying “leave out the ‘Hitler’ references…” I dunno. Matthews calls Saul Alinsky a hero, and anybody who’s following Alinsky’s lead is doing more damage to real communication than somebody who’s drawing incorrect parallels.

Matthews, if you really want communication to get somewhere, renounce Alinsky. Publicly. And mean it. And then stop playing his tactics, and actually mean what you say, and say things that you actually believe to be meaningful.

Until you do that, pal, you don’t have the right to criticize anybody else about how they’re damaging discourse in the US. Sorry, that’s a fact.

philwynk on April 30, 2010 at 7:04 AM

IF they are leaving, mission accomplished. Go back home, then enter the country like everyone else. LEGALLY.

tx2654 on April 30, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Would taking the 12 Trillion dollars have been better if we just went ahead and BOUGHT Mexico and made IT a State?

johnnyU on April 30, 2010 at 12:49 PM

And don’t let that barbed wire hit you in the arse on your way out!

hopefloats on April 30, 2010 at 10:26 PM

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