Reid caves to Graham, will introduce cap-and-trade before immigration
posted at 5:34 pm on April 27, 2010 by Allahpundit
Remember, Graham walked away from the cap-and-trade “coalition” or whatever a few days ago when it looked like Reid was going to fast-track immigration instead. Major Garrett gets the scoop:
Also, Sen ML Reid says energy/climate bill to go before immigration; this keeps Sen. Lindsey Graham at table, preserves some momentum
The word from Politico as recently as this morning was that Reid was still planning to push immigration first, possibly bringing a bill directly to the floor and calling a vote by the recess on May 28. What’s suddenly changed? Well, my hunch is that Arizona’s new law has succeeded spectacularly in doing what it was aimed to do all along — namely, drive up pressure on the feds to enforce the border by showing how desperate the states are for some action. The latest polls suggest it’s working like a charm. Which means if they do take up a bill now, even the Democrats will have to focus on border security first, which is the last thing The One and Reid were hoping for in their shameless bid to use this issue as an electoral wedge. Graham, being no dummy, surely knows it too, which is why you’ll find him below (via Breitbart) warning Napolitano at today’s hearings that you can forget doing anything about this until 2012. “But AP,” you say, “won’t Congress be much more Republican then than it is now?” Answer: Yep, but waiting two years gives this issue time to cool off, and Graham’s no doubt hoping that electoral pressures in the campaign that year will force congressional Republicans towards the center. Direct quote from today’s hearing: “If immigration comes up this year, it’s absolutely devastating to the future of this issue.” Well, to his position on it, yeah.
The only mystery now is whether Reid will abandon immigration altogether or whether he’ll half-heartedly force a vote later this term. I think he has to try something — he all but promised Latino voters in Nevada that they’d act — but everyone knows for sure the bill will fail now, especially coming after a contentious cap-and-trade battle. Better to secure Graham’s vote on that in a possibly winning effort than lose him on both.
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WTF? This is not a good thing.
South Carolina. Lindsay needs to go.
Mr. Joe on April 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM
YIPPEE!!! Way to go Lindsay!!! What a guy.
Fletch54 on April 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Isn’t there a decent GOP challenger to Graham?
Mr. Joe on April 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM
heh. good, now let’s kill cap and trade!
this will be another uncomfortable topic for MAC as he gets his conservative on to beat Hayworth. Check out the email he sent out today on immigration:
ginaswo on April 27, 2010 at 5:41 PM
We need to enact the only solution:
Kenny G.
rickyricardo on April 27, 2010 at 5:41 PM
Graham is just saying this will be delayed until 2012 now because his AZ buddy in in trouble. After the primary is over he will change his tune again, as will McCain.
Mark1971 on April 27, 2010 at 5:41 PM
he picked up that let me be clear bs from O, good grief…
ginaswo on April 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I hope Graham’s being smart and will ultimately torpedo Cap N Trade too, but I’m not really all that confident.
BadgerHawk on April 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Useless Graham/McCain have their places in the afterlife, and I don’t want to be where they are.
leftnomore on April 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM
If they’re both rammed through before midterms and outside of regular legislative channels I don’t give a crap about the order.
rogerb on April 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Eh. That might not be under our control. If more and more people along the boarder endure violence, kidnapping, and even murder, then realities might not allow the issue to be cooled off.
Weight of Glory on April 27, 2010 at 5:44 PM
’08 was the year to do it too. :(
clement on April 27, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Ya big kidder! *_-
thomasaur on April 27, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Lindsey, as usual, is in the middle of the $h*t, just for Lindsey.
Wind Rider on April 27, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Why is this good? We should have let them fail.
bloggless on April 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Ugh.
Enoxo on April 27, 2010 at 5:45 PM
How the hell could he possibly think this is the right thing to do to America? I do hope the good people of So. Carolina are hammering this guy’s phones and e-mail.
Patrick S on April 27, 2010 at 5:46 PM
“me and any other serious Democrat”?????
Tell it all, Lindsey, tell it all. Oh, wait, we already figured that part out. Nevermind.
Schmuck.
Wind Rider on April 27, 2010 at 5:46 PM
“An SDS reunion on The Love Boat.”
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGNiN2NkODBkMGY4ZjZkYzUxYjMxOTZmODYyYjQyOTc=
ninjapirate on April 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM
what are the prospects for cap & trade this time around?
toenail on April 27, 2010 at 5:49 PM
I would not be surprised if neither of them get anywhere. Both issues might stall.
Terrye on April 27, 2010 at 5:50 PM
But I don’t want Cap & Trade either. Come on guys, don’t you want to argue longer about it?
Cindy Munford on April 27, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Right. Sure.
It’s just what the economy needs.
That, and tax hikes.
And I’ll leave it at that; anything more and I will get banned.
CPT. Charles on April 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM
You know what will help secure the border? A few more Senate hearings so morons like Napolitano and Graham can talk some more. If that doesn’t work, the big O can always make a speech.
Either that or Napolitano could demand some accountability and action from the people that freak’n work for her. Good grief, it’s not that complicated.
lowandslow on April 27, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Uh huh so Grahamnesty wants to shoot us in the foot before he shoots us in the back?
Dr Evil on April 27, 2010 at 5:55 PM
What the hell is wrong with Graham? Is he stupid? Amnesty was slowly dying and would not have been resurrected before the elections. Now it will just be put on hold. What a dumb ass. The girly man needs to go away, SC. You know what to do.
ROCnPhilly on April 27, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Lindsey Graham for President….OF MEXICO!!!!!!
FlickeringFlame on April 27, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Lindsay Graham suffers from Premature Emasculation.
portlandon on April 27, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Here comes global governance. Welcome to the Federation of Earth. The only way out is a rocket to Mars.
jimmy2shoes on April 27, 2010 at 5:57 PM
How dare they!
unclesmrgol on April 27, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Thanks for nothing asshole.
jukin on April 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Robert Krentz says we should talk about this for a few more years…
Oh, wait!
Seven Percent Solution on April 27, 2010 at 6:02 PM
At the rate Beck is going on exposing this fraud which includes the Dear Chocolate Jesus Man Child, no way in he** Cap and Tax will pass. No way.
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM
South Carolina, you can do better than this, surely.
Why don’t you just clone Jim DeMint and run him against Lindsey next time around?
Brian1972 on April 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Don’t Dem senators from coal states have an interest in undermining cap-and-tax?
We can’t touch Sherrod Brown for four years and Voinovich is a weasle, but how about PA (Spector, Casey) and WV (Byrd [if he's healthy enough to vote], Rockefeller) and elsewhere?
Geez, the GOP needs more Senate seats to offset idiots like Graham.
BuckeyeSam on April 27, 2010 at 6:07 PM
If you don’t listen to Beck or read Canada Free Press you are not going to hear about this. Not a chance. They have taken control of the release of information and all outlets that should be trumpeting this story are afraid to say a word. We are headed for revel lewshun.
thomasaur on April 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM
OT Beck said Dingy will call a vote to make Puerto Rico the 51st state on Thurs. WTF?!
Denverslim on April 27, 2010 at 6:10 PM
***face palm***
Knucklehead on April 27, 2010 at 6:11 PM
A cynical thought:
What’s Lindsey’s cut of the CCX money pie?
CPT. Charles on April 27, 2010 at 6:11 PM
I keep wondering why Andrew Brietbart isn’t doing more on this one. Maybe he’s waiting for the grand finale from Glenn? Nothing from Drudge either, but then no articles appear to have been written.. just facts being exposed. Be patient… It’s going to explode in the Dems faces.
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Yep.
***crickets from the big shots***.
Knucklehead on April 27, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Uh… What?!
ROCnPhilly on April 27, 2010 at 6:14 PM
You’re not looking in the right place.
Knucklehead on April 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Ok, for more info on CCX and who’s hands are in it: This is an interactive website that traces people, organizations and relationships Whenever you see a “+” sign in a box, double click and watch the map expand. I have done the initial on it. Enjoy!
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM
On Puerto Rico statehood: My guess is that the dems are really afraid of losing seats this election and want a new wave of welfare votes. About 45% of Puerto Ricans live at or below the poverty line. That’s thousands of new recipients looking for some sweet social justice courtesy of the progressive machine’s spending of U.S. taxpayer dollars.
Why not go for Zimbabwe while we’re at it, dems, you stupid f*cks.?
ROCnPhilly on April 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM
We are stuck with him until 2014. The slow learners of SC reelected him in 2008.
chemman on April 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM
While the momentum is building to repeal Obamacare to return a sixth of our economy back to the private sector, Graham is now doing an end around in congress to impose another big government grab solely based on the myth of AWG. Nancy Pelosi must be glad that she has a republican counter part in the U.S. senate (Lindsey Graham) to run interference for her. Graham is ruining the republican brand once again. Reid knows this all to well, or somebody with half a brain elbowed him in the ribs (my guess is Rahm Emanual) and Harry will be more than glad to assist him in reducing the chances of republicans winning a majority in the 2010 elections. Way to go Lindsey, and don’t you worry about McCain because he sees what you did there.
Americannodash on April 27, 2010 at 6:29 PM
This is like letting a man choose from a knee to the groin or a kick in the balls.
Chuck Schick on April 27, 2010 at 6:29 PM
I’m not so sure about your comment… My step mother was Puerto Rican and from Caguas. Not the best place in the universe but it is a beautiful island. Besides, most PR’s live in NY and in my neighborhood. LOL!
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Link please.
chemman on April 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Since the 3 stooges wrote the C&T bill, what could go wrong? We know Kerry’s clueless but are Lieberman and Graham both that stupid to believe in agw. This is another economy killer.
Kissmygrits on April 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Thanks for that :o)
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM
This is actually, a good thing… I think.
With all the green going down the crapper with climate-gate, cap and trade will probably be an easy win. Hell, even the Navy has come out against it.
There won’t be immigration marches, just cap/trade marches. I don’t think they have the man power. Nobody believes ALgore anymore. Maybe some school kids, we’ll have to re-educate when this is finally over…
But this gives time for the AZ law to kick into effect, and show positive results before November. If this law actually gets a chance, with concealed-carry without permit, and illegals being rounded up – the crime rate will drop like a stone. McCaine actually calling for reinforcements, and a real border fence, even if accidently. I’m moving to Arizona. Should be paradise in two years tops.
Dems gone in November, they aren’t passing anything else, and in 2012, Obama gone…
We’ve got to stay on this though.
“We’re juggling precious eggs, in variable gravity.”
AM I WRONG?
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Yes, thanks for posting that.
JellyToast on April 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM
time to call McConnell and tell him to get a leash on graham NOW
unseen on April 27, 2010 at 6:39 PM
time to call McConnell and tell him to get a leash on graham NOW
unseen on April 27, 2010 at 6:39 PM
McConnell can threaten him with committe appointments, office space, RNC donations etc etc.
McConnell has a wide leverage to use. the fact that he is not shows that the fix is in. they picked graham because he has 5 years to go before relection. this is the RINO ‘s inaaction
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unseen on April 27, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Yeah, they should just make all of Central America states. Heck, make Cuba and Venezuela states too. The Evil Clown could be Obama’s next Vice, or maybe Defense Secretary. Castro could become Governor of Florida. That would be a riot.
JellyToast on April 27, 2010 at 6:41 PM
furthermore We as conservatives want the immigration bill to come up where 80% of the USais behind us. We do not wnat cap and tax to come up where its a 50/50 thing
unseen on April 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM
Great quote!
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM
PR: Beautiful, but poor. The girls are beautiful. Your pop is a lucky man. I wonder if the majority even want to be a state. I know the last time it was asked 20% wanted to be a Spanish colony – no kidding. Of course, now that Spain’s new “green economy” has flamed out, maybe they’d prefer us. They are U.S. citizens either way.
ROCnPhilly on April 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM
Our only hope of getting rid of Pansy Graham is Obama appoints him Sec of Defence when Gates leaves.he has 4 more years before he,s up for reelection for his Sen . seat.We here in S.C. were stabbed in the back by the good O boys in the primary in 2008.We have begged for years foe a closed primary but the good O Boys keep letting everyone vote in a open primary and the Dem. crossover goes for Graham in large numbers because they have no or a very weak candidate in the Dem. primary.Graham is weak in the upstate but strong in the more lib.low country and with the dem crossover vote wins a close primary race.This is why we are going to keep pushing for a close primary.
thmcbb on April 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Larry Niven, great writer!
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM
I agree with several comments above.
I’m completely perplexed at the lack of attention that Beck’s 4/26 show on the Obama/Gore/Goldman Sachs/CCX/Cap&Tax connection is getting from other conservative websites too.
Where’s Drudge? Breitbart? Rush?
Anybody within 100 yards of a keyboard, camera or microphone should be all over it!
It is literally IMHO the biggest story of all time.
Was it featured on Hot Air? Don’t see it.
What gives?? Are people afraid to help Beck expose this?
Beck’s show yesterday is a must see. If you already know what the concept of Cap and Trade is and you already know that the Obama administration if chock full of ex-Goldman Sachs people, forward to 14 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQitjq2CXSO
P.S.: It ends before he unveils the “mystery” guy in the middle… I’ll give you one guess who it is… hint, sometimes goes by the name of Barry.
Where is the outrage?!?
Hot Air, why are you not all over this? (forgive me if you are and I just missed it… I hope that is the case!)
painesright on April 27, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Chemman, Knucklehead posted the link a few posts back. Thanks Knucklehead.
Denverslim on April 27, 2010 at 6:48 PM
So this makes the lies more salable?
Or does it just make it lies?
Germany and Australia already bailed on the ‘green lies’ tax scam in the last few days.
tarpon on April 27, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Hey, that was fast. The video was already pulled. The police state is getting pretty darned good!
JellyToast on April 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM
I don’t suppose that anyone will find out how much money dear lindsey is getting for this c&t thing? If y’all have not been watching Glenn the last two days, you are missing out on what is going on here. Glenn has the facts and he asks the msm to dispute what he is saying. So far not a single person has disputed him. We taxpayers are going to get the shaft if this thing passes!
L
letget on April 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM
Let’s try that again…
Beck’s show yesterday is a must see. If you already know what the concept of Cap and Trade is and you already know that the Obama administration if chock full of ex-Goldman Sachs people, forward to 14 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQitjq2CXS0
painesright on April 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM
This is good news? Maybe now we can finally get rid of Graham.
DFCtomm on April 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM
It’s very clear l/g knows he is in no danger for awhile.How I wish he was out in November.
ohiobabe on April 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM
Open Borders Party!
End AmeriKKa now!
Balkans, ho!
profitsbeard on April 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM
I’m not sure we do. We actually have science on our side with this.
I still remember three years ago, jackass Harry, bringing this to the floor what, at least six times?
This will be Harry’s last hurrah, and he desperately needs votes in Nevada. He wants them from the culinary union. (Employing illegals in Las Vegas casinos as maids, busboys, chefs, etc.- and the casinos want the cheap labor. The MGM alone has over 10,000 maids. Think about that.)
Huge Hispanic block, not very interested- until you mention immigration. He has 12 million dollars. WE NEED TO BEAT HIM!
If this turns to immigration again, we have a nation on the news every night again. And to be honest with you. I don’t have it in me to start that fight again.
SO DO WE WANT C&T or Immigration first. They only have time for one?
(Harry has been promised something to switch, guessin’)
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Where the hell did my post go?
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 7:10 PM
At least Rudd knows when to fold. I think it will be another 3-5 years before he tries again if he hasn’t already been voted out by the Australian people.
Crux Australis on April 27, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Like crap-and-betrayed is better for the Dems? Hell, at least amnesty would rile up Hispanic voters. With crap-and-betrayed, they’re guaranteed to p-ss off conservatives even more, and the independents will be gone for good once they get wind of how much more in taxes that legislation will mean.
Doughboy on April 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM
My posts are going nowhere!
Admin!
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM
Where the hell did my post go?
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 7:10 PM
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I had that problem over the weekend,I said nothing any different from anyone else.
ohiobabe on April 27, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Awww, isn’t that cute…..Graham and Reid arguing about which way to screw the country next.
xblade on April 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Beck’s show yesterday is a must see
Now my post is not coming upanyway,did Beck say there’s a deal in the works for l/g like the other traitors brfore him?Didn’t get to see his show.
ohiobabe on April 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Arse.
Welp, goodbye American economy. Nice knowing you.
DangerHighVoltage on April 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Investigation, verification and confirmation will take just a bit of time. Beck has the Fox empire behind him for defense costs, yet I doubt that he is wrong in anything he is doing.
Key West Reader on April 27, 2010 at 7:45 PM
By which time, Hanoi Julia will probably be in charge. We’re screwed!
OldEnglish on April 27, 2010 at 7:54 PM
yeah, this isn’t anything radical. apparently a length of post. As long as I keep it under two lines. I’ll try it section at a time.
Bear with me…
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:01 PM
I’m not sure we do. We actually have science on our side with this.
I still remember three years ago, jackass Harry, bringing this to the floor what, at least six times?
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:02 PM
second half won’t go
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:03 PM
This will be Harry’s last hurrah, and he desperately needs votes in Nevada. He wants them from the culinary union.
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM
This will be Harry’s last hurrah, and
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM
he desperately needs votes in Nevada. He wants them from the culinary union.
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Employing illegals in Las Vegas
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:09 PM
It won’t take the word employ
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM
it won’t take the last sentence?
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM
casinos as maids, busboys, chefs, etc.- and the casinos want the cheap labor. The MGM alone has over 10,000 maids. Think about that.
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Nobody is working harder to help Obama enact his full agenda and ruin the country more than Lindsey Graham. You’re a disgrace Lindsey.
exceller on April 27, 2010 at 8:12 PM
I give up.
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:12 PM
The MGM alone has over 10,000 maids. Think about that.)
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:13 PM
unbelievable. NEVER had this problem before.
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:15 PM
Quick test, ignore
this is from the article
up a bill now, even the Democrats will have to focus on border security first, which is the last thing The One and Reid were hoping for in their shameless bid to use this issue as an electoral wedge. Graham, being no dummy, surely knows it too, which is why you’ll find him below (via Breitbart) warning Napolitano at today’s
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:17 PM
perfect, It’s JUST ME it doesn’t like!
hahahahahahahaha!
docjohn52 on April 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM
Lindsey Graham…single-handedly saving the democratic party from ruin….in pink panties.
South Carolina…thank you for dumping this nancy boy on us for six more years.
It’s time to storm his office, in SC and DC with calls, emails, people….
(202) 224-5972
HornetSting on April 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM
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