Sinking of Cheonan “clearly the work of North Korea’s military”

posted at 12:15 pm on April 22, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The Times of London picks up a report from Yonhap News that will put the two Koreas into a dangerous confrontation.  An investigation into the sudden explosion and sinking of South Korean corvette Cheonan has concluded that the ship was struck by a torpedo amidships.  Calling this “clearly the work of North Korea’s military,” the conclusion will force Seoul into some sort of retaliation — which could touch off another war on the peninsula:

Last month’s deadly sinking of a South Korean naval ship was caused by a North Korean torpedo, a news report said today, adding to pressure on the South’s President. Lee Myung Bak, to respond to one of the worst acts of military provocation since the Korean War.

The South Korean defence ministry declined to comment on the claim by the Yonhap news agency, the latest in a series of reports suggesting that the mysterious sinking of the naval corvette, Cheonan, on March 26 was a deliberate and unprovoked attack by North Korea.

Forty-six sailors are dead or missing after the attack, which cut the 1200-tonne vessel in two. But President Lee’s Government appears to be struggling to find an appropriate response, which will demonstrate its resolve in the face of aggression, but stop short of a costly and unpredictable war.

That may not be the last word on the cause, although the motive remains clear. The probe also considers the possibility of a suicide attack by submarine on the ship, prompted by a clash in November whose outcome embarrassed Pyongyang and its military. The Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported that the DPRK plotted its revenge by training “human torpedoes,” which may seem a little far-fetched but still possible. A standard torpedo launch would have been tracked by other ships, whereas a suicide (or remote controlled) submarine vessel could have remained undetected until detonation.

Lee won his election by promising a get-tough policy with Kim Jong-Il, saying that he would shoot three or four bullets back at Kim for every two sent their way. Now he has his opportunity to put that toughness on display, but it’s a delicate balancing act. Almost any kind of military retaliation would result in war, for which Seoul may be more prepared but still extremely vulnerable. Any kind of large-scale military action will leave tens of thousands dead, and missiles will rain down on the South almost from the start.

Lee also has to weigh the amount of support he can expect from the US if the Korean War reignites, especially from an act by Seoul against the North. Would Barack Obama take action against Kim under those circumstances? Or would the US back away from its security obligations, especially considering the close financial relationship between the US and China? Don’t expect to see anything too aggressive, as Lee most likely doesn’t want to discover the answer to those questions.


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Good luck with that. barry isn’t in any generous moods lately. Just ask Bibi.

rightside on April 22, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Ruh-roh!

Emperor Norton on April 22, 2010 at 12:25 PM

It’s sad that even our allies can’t count on us anymore, let alone others who would ordinarily be able to rely on us for support if they were attacked.

Kronos on April 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM

It would be a crying shame if 4 NORK subs sank without a trace…

juanito on April 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Razor’s edge

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Impressive work by NK to pull this off.

Kudos to them on a military level.

SK will do nothing.

rickyricardo on April 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM

*Obviously* Obama needs to go over, apologize and bow.

Sarjex on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Buckle up. This ride could get a little bumpy.

WisRich on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Is lil’ kim feeling rucky?

VegasRick on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Gulf of Tonkin v2.

And we’re hardly in a position to start a third war.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

that the DPRK plotted its revenge by training “human torpedoes,” which may seem a little far-fetched but still possible

Not that far-fetched really. Japan during WWII conducted numerous tests and missions with “manned” torpedos. Basically a torpedo was fitted with external controls and a small cockpit was built on top. Put a diver/swimmer on board, lower it into the water and let her rip. Not very effective at all, but they did exist. Ther Germans messed around with it some but gave it up pretty quickly.

Johnnyreb on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

It’s sad that even our allies can’t count on us anymore, let alone others who would ordinarily be able to rely on us for support if they were attacked.

Kronos on April 22, 2010 at 12:26 PM

It is however what you get when you place your security in the hands of others instead of yourself.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

My prediction, without US backing, and there will be none other than stern and harshly written letters, nothing will happen……

Other than emboldening the NK’s, as well Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Russia….etc.

I can smell the change….and it’s making me ill and sad.

DLEW on April 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

There’s a time for peace and there’s a time for nuclear bunker busters.

the_nile on April 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Overwhelming response or nothing at all. No real middle ground, is there?

How would China respond? Will they go to bat for NK just to keep the south from potentially expanding democracy and capitalism on the peninsula?

TexasDan on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

“Of course you know, this means war!”
–Rufus T. Firefly

Emperor Norton on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Short of some clandestine military response, I’m afraid South Korea is in a bad position. Our “Dear Leader” would most likely not wish to become involved. The sad truth is, our military is overextended now and any military action between the two Korea’s would have to be just between them.
Exit question: what would happen to all the US troops stationed in South Korea?

Dave M on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Gulf of Tonkin v2.

And we’re hardly in a position to start a third war.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

You really think this is a false flag op?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

And we’re hardly in a position to start a third war.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

SK and the norks has been officially at war for the last 60 years.

the_nile on April 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Color me naive but I don’t see how SK can really do anything obvious. I suspect a much more subtle pulling back of cultural outreaches and what not, and some not so subtle talks with the Chinese about their problem with the kims. Maybe even the four subs mentioned above which would send a REALLY big message and hard to prove if done correctly. I just don’t know if SK has the capability to pull off something like that without telltales.

WitchDoctor on April 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM

They should call NoKo’s bluff, if they even were competent enough to do this on purpose. No way can China openly back them up after such a blatant act of aggression.

Free Constitution on April 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Prayers for our military in SK. This could be a sticky wicket there.
L

letget on April 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM

It is however what you get when you place your security in the hands of others instead of yourself.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

History tells us that not only is this a bad idea, but it is even worse to rely on an empire to always keep the peace. Pax America is no more bulletproof than Pax Romana was.

Superpowers never last forever. Period!

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Now what?

Noth’n, the alternative is huge pile of rubble called Seoul.

Speakup on April 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Exit question: what would happen to all the US troops stationed in South Korea?

Dave M on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

They have become nuclear hostages. Look at how the loss of 3000 people effected us on 9/11. I believe we have 10 times that amount stationed on the border.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Now nothing. It’s just more fuel for the coming world war. It’s clear our enemies are testing to see if Obama will do anything, and it’s clear he will not. There is no reason for anyone not to attack America and its allies.

deewhybee on April 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM

NoKorea is not a threat, they do not have a military of any significance and would love to freely trade with us! Remove all US Military support and bases from South Korea NOW!!!!

/paulnut

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Uh-oh.

FOX NEWS ………..

Georgians intercept smuggled shipment of enriched uranium bound for the terrorist community.

fogw on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

And just for the record, Dark Star…we wouldn’t be STARTING a third war. We would be backing up an ally. Back before Obama, we used to actually value allies.

As for South Korea, it’s clear that they are screwed. This administration will do nothing but bark orders on how to surrender. Or worse, start unfettered talks with Kim-Jong Idiot.

search4truth on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Prediction: Obama to pull the US out of South Korea.

portlandon on April 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Gulf of Tonkin v2.

And we’re hardly in a position to start a third war.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Just to be clear, we’re still at war. The Korean War never ended. We’re just not shooting right now.

amerpundit on April 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM

If serious war begins between SK and NK, the peninsula becomes a charred mess.

The sheer number of missile launchers aimed at South Korea would devastate the country. Of course, North Korea would cease to exist. The only good outcome would be revolution in the North before they could fire their weapons, and it’s highly unlikely that Kim would go down without envisioning his holocaust of the South.

MadisonConservative on April 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM

You really think this is a false flag op?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM

I’m suspicious that SK may be trying another “WMD” scare, partly because they can easily sense how spineless Obama is.

But I can’t blame them too hard – they’re almost as vulnerable as Israel. Ocean on three sides and a very credible threat on the fourth? Not exactly a great situation.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Hmm. Nothing on Drudge, Fox, CNN etc about this.

JusDreamin on April 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

“You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.”

the_nile on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

fogw on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

link?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

George W. Bush to South Korea: Miss me yet?

Obummer doesn’t have the stomach for open war with North Korea yet, but he and Lee should AT LEAST agree to stop ALL shipments of foreign aid to North Korea immediately.

If you can’t kill the beast, starve it.

Steve Z on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

It is however what you get when you place your security in the hands of others instead of yourself.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

You are so correct. Its time for all of those countries who are getting a free ride from us should start beefing up their military options. Then these treaties (NATO and SEATO) will have some muscle to them.

Mirimichi on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Conflict between NK and SK is inevitable, Spathi.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

North Koera is blowing up South Korean ships and your solution is to threaten South Korea, our ally, in order to prevent a conflict.

Awesome.

amerpundit on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Could SK evacuate Seoul then go to work on NK?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Has there ever been any Economic Studies on the effect on US and world Economic Liberty if NoKo ever takes over SoKo again and of course nationalizes everything?

the effects on companies like Samsung, LG, etc?

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

FOX NEWS ………..

Georgians intercept smuggled shipment of enriched uranium bound for the terrorist community.

fogw on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

At least that one was intercepted. How many others weren’t?

Steve Z on April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

you are an immoral scumbag, typical paultard

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM

maybe we can wave Obama’s well-earned peace prize and calm the whole situation down!

search4truth on April 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM

South Korea would wipe the floor with them if it was just between the two… Admittedly, casualties would be extremely high. I seriously doubt NoKo has the stamina for a prolonged hot war–they’re already starving.

If they did this on purpose, how is this reason to further tolerate their nuclear(ish) status?

Free Constitution on April 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM

North Koera is blowing up South Korean ships and your solution is to threaten South Korea, our ally, in order to prevent a conflict.

Bingo.

That’s the Paulistas view of the world.

We’re always the problem. The other party is always innocent or their actions justified.

But our actions never have merit or justification.

They really are no different in their view of the US and the west than the Chomskyites.

SteveMG on April 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM

North Koera is blowing up South Korean ships and your solution is to threaten South Korea, our ally, in order to prevent a conflict.

Awesome.

amerpundit on April 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

I took it that he’s implying that the Obama administration will pressure SK to ignore the event and try to resolve the issue with even more diplomatic efforts that reward NK’s bad behavior. The question is will NK over step and cause some incident that will grow out control like WWI?

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Make Pyongyang a parking lot.

D2Boston on April 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM

Now nothing. It’s just more fuel for the coming world war. It’s clear our enemies are testing to see if Obama will do anything, and it’s clear he will not. There is no reason for anyone not to attack America and its allies.

deewhybee on April 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM

it’s amazing that every single week that Barry is in power, the wacko Mayan/Nostradamus 2012 End of Times type predictions seem a lot more credible…

cue up the hookers and blow, you can’t take it with you

phreshone on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM

SK should threaten that they will kill 2000 of their own citizens in retaliation for NK’s act.

That should satisfy the Paulinas.

rickyricardo on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Not sure. South Korea’s GDP is about $930 billion while North Korea’s is about $13 billion. Assuming they would run South Korea like North Korea, the weather report isn’t sunny for the south’s GDP.

Samsung alone has $173 billion in annual revenue while LG has $104 billion.

Fifteenth largest economy by GDP, according to the IMF and CIA.

amerpundit on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM

While I don’t think this will get beyond a few slaps and some name-calling, this one could be bad. The only things that stopped the initial Police Action from boiling into a real world war war were the fatigue from WWII and MacArthur’s inability to convince his boss to let him hit back.

Let’s not test China’s desire to escalate, especially since the economic impact would span Taiwan, Korea, and Japan in some ways.

jdfister on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM

War with North Korea would mean the devastation of South Korea.

MadisonConservative on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Very possible, although that link is 7 years old.

Are there any US aircraft carriers near Korea, with enough planes to bomb the artillery just north of the DMZ? Or could we launch an attack from Guam, before it capsizes?

Steve Z on April 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM

In order for South Korea to attack North Korea they need to have U.S. consent according to the South Korea U.S. combined forces agreement. I’m fairly sure once everything is said and done there will be wiggle room for South Korea to not 100% identify North Korea as the ones who did this. And if they do, they still need approval from Obama which I doubt he will give. Even then the response would be less than proportional and might be covert as to let North Korea know that they didn’t get away with anything but also to let North Korea save face and tell their people they were never attacked. Nothing to see here. Move along.

uskorea on April 22, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

You are aware that South Korea was just attacked correct? Why would we threaten our ally who has the right to defend itself when it was just attacked? Sweet Obama logic Spathi.

Shock the Monkey on April 22, 2010 at 12:49 PM

South Korea’s GDP is about $930 billion while North Korea’s is about $13 billion.

all created in the last 50 yrs, thank you USA

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

What next?

Nothing much.
A protest will be filed. The UN notified, blah, blah, blah.

Would Barack Obama take action against Kim under those circumstances?

No. After a long investigation it would be found that an “error” was made by the US military.

albill on April 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Lee won his election by promising a get-tough policy with Kim Jong-Il, saying that he would shoot three or four bullets back at Kim for every two sent their way.

Oh my!

It’s almost like Kim is begging to be put out of his misery.

I doubt Obama is up to this.

I predict more strongly worded speeches… well not that strongly worded.

petunia on April 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

You’re a slimy little weasel. Is there no Western power you won’t throw under the bus when under threat from a common enemy?

MadisonConservative on April 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM

DFCtomm on April 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM

NoKo has a little small man syndrom. That is their problem. And you know what happens when small man syndrom takes over…. they explode until put back in their place.

upinak on April 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Beer summit

Hening on April 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM

If South Korea would just stop building homes in Seoul, and tear down that illegal wall, and return to it’s 1950 borders and … and … oh, wait.

Nevermind.

Doorgunner on April 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Let’s not test China’s desire to escalate, especially since the economic impact would span Taiwan, Korea, and Japan in some ways.

jdfister on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM

*shudder*

Don’t even go there.

Our industrial and commercial sectors are so incredibly vulnerable to disruption from Asian supply lines. The thought of a serious threat to same should be high-octane nightmare fuel to any American.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

FYI guys.. Spathi wouldn’t understand who his friends are as it has none I would assume.

He goes by the enemy of my enemy is my enemy because it can’t be my friend, as my enemy is my friend.

upinak on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Yes, the best way to avoid a conflict is for the South to do nothing while the North engages in periodic acts of aggression.

Apparently, if one side is engaged in aggression and the other isn’t, that means no conflict is occurring.

Really, are the Paul supporters this absurd?

Granted, the South has to tread carefully. But let’s remember which party is causing these problems.

Geezuz.

SteveMG on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

See what happens when you call somebody part of an Axis of Evil?

cartooner on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Are there any US aircraft carriers near Korea, with enough planes to bomb the artillery just north of the DMZ? Or could we launch an attack from Guam, before it capsizes?

Steve Z on April 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Not sure about aircraft carriers, but we have two major air bases in the south — Kunsan and Osan.

According to Wiki, the former is home to the 8th Fighter Wing and 1st Air Defense Artillery.

The latter is home to the 51st Fighter Wing and a bunch of other blowy-upy things.

amerpundit on April 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Forty-six sailors are dead or missing

Those deaths are at Obama’s feet. His stupidity has emboldened Kim.

No way he would have done this with Bush in office.

petunia on April 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM

See what happens when you call somebody part of an Axis of Evil?

cartooner on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

yeah, they again and again prove the assertion correct.

jp on April 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Hmmm so Burma, which is next to China and Chin’a ally as well as NoKo, doesn’t concern you as they are working with Iran and NoKo on this little gem?

People need to wake up on what is going on outside our bubble.

upinak on April 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Now, what?

Nada

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Conflict between NK and SK is inevitable, Spathi.

Like the conflict between Ron Paul and Rand Paul over the latter’s support of Israel.

Emperor Norton on April 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM

He goes by the enemy of my enemy is my enemy because it can’t be my friend, as my enemy is my friend.

upinak on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

A perfect description of Obama’s foreign policy. Which apparently the world likes better than Bush’s. Stupid world.

petunia on April 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Apparently, if one side is engaged in aggression and the other isn’t, that means no conflict is occurring.

SteveMG on April 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

Now, why does that sound so familiar? lol

ElectricPhase on April 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Threaten South Korea. Tell them if they retaliate, we won’t support them.

That way we prevent a conflict.

Spathi on April 22, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Wow, you’re really smart! (deep sarcasm) You must be an O advisor because that sounds like the new strategy towards Israel.

Monica on April 22, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Beer summit

Hening on April 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM

In this case, it could be a “soju summit.”

Or, it would be a “makkoli” summit, considering that NK is so poor and that’s probably all they can afford.

/married to a Korean

Tak_Bulgogi on April 22, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Like the conflict between Ron Paul and Rand Paul over the latter’s support of Israel.

Emperor Norton on April 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Absolutely. It will be intriguing to see just how that turns out.

Dark-Star on April 22, 2010 at 1:01 PM

The Norks are playing a game of chicken because they know we have a chicken in the White House.

Ward Cleaver on April 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM

link?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Saw it reported live on FOX newscast @ 12:30 PM Today.

fogw on April 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

This is a job for Team America.

Christien on April 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

The Norks are playing a game of chicken because they know we have a chicken in the White House.

Ward Cleaver on April 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Hey can we trade him for a tonsillectomy?

petunia on April 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Are there any US aircraft carriers near Korea, with enough planes to bomb the artillery just north of the DMZ? Or could we launch an attack from Guam, before it capsizes?

Steve Z on April 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM

From what I understand these artillery positions are well fortified and mostly hidden below ground in huge cave complexes. They are designed to be very very difficult to take out short of a nuclear attack.

Soel is very close to North Korea and would suffer greatly in a war.

Steveangell on April 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM

link?

blatantblue on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Here ya go.

fogw on April 22, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I smell trouble. North Korea is starving and needs to do something to get bought off somehow.

The Korean was was in 1950 just 5 years after Japanese occupation, and the South was weak. The North was supported by China.

If China and the USA stay out of a new fight, the South would win easily in a conventional forces battle. The North Korean nukes are the issue, and I’m sure China would forbid any North Korean nuke action. However Kim is crazy and desparate. This situation is very dangerous and interesting.

We may see China step up for the first time and clamp down on North Korea big time.

Lets hope anyway.

saiga on April 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM

You know what? China isn’t going to back this. There is nothing to gain for them. They are just emerging as a real power. They aren’t going to want a war anymore than we are.

This is China’s problem to solve. Kim is always China’s problem.

At least for now China needs us as much as we need them.

Maybe I’m wrong but that’s the best option I can see is to shame China into reining in Kim and doing something nice for S. Korea.

petunia on April 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM

They are designed to be very very difficult to take out short of a nuclear attack.

Steveangell on April 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM

So the problem is?

the_nile on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM

mpressive work by NK to pull this off.

Kudos to them on a military level.

SK will do nothing.

rickyricardo on April 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Hardly…sinking a corvette in shallow water in an unprovoked attack in peace is pretty easy…It is about as hard as ringing your neighbors door and then shooting him…Getting away with the act is harder, BUT, as this is political, I expect to see the equivalent of an Obama stern letter to Iran…no real response at all.

JIMV on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM

North Korea has no logistics capability. They could not sustain a drawn out conventional fight, and they know it. The South does have a first class logistics capability and a tough, well supplied army.

I would not rule out a preemtive strike against the North by the south with China’s tacid approval.

We shall see. Either way, North Korea crapped in its’ mess kit this time. Something will happen. Lets hope China steps up.

saiga on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM

I expect to see the equivalent of an Obama stern letter to Iran…no real response at all.

JIMV on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Could be, but I think this one will unfold out of Obama’s deep involvement. The USA is streched too thin to really do anything. Our Chineese masters will see to that.

This is shaping up to be the first nasty international inncodent the USA sits out more or less.

saiga on April 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Not that far-fetched really. Japan during WWII conducted numerous tests and missions with “manned” torpedos. Basically a torpedo was fitted with external controls and a small cockpit was built on top. Put a diver/swimmer on board, lower it into the water and let her rip. Not very effective at all, but they did exist. Ther Germans messed around with it some but gave it up pretty quickly.

Johnnyreb on April 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM

They were called Kaiten, they were operational and more sophisticated than you describe.

There were mother subs dedicated to transporting them and one of the more interesting stories to come from the Japanese side of the war in the Pacific.

cozmo on April 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM

North Korea has no logistics capability. They could not sustain a drawn out conventional fight, and they know it. The South does have a first class logistics capability and a tough, well supplied army.

I would not rule out a preemtive strike against the North by the south with China’s tacid approval.

We shall see. Either way, North Korea crapped in its’ mess kit this time. Something will happen. Lets hope China steps up.

saiga on April 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM

They have concentrated artillery centered on the main population center of South Korea. It won’t be pretty.

MadisonConservative on April 22, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Psst, Seoul…Somali pirates for hire.

Christien on April 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Say nothing. Strike hard. I love the idea mentioned above about surreptitiously sinking Nork subs. The South may well have the capability.

Bugler on April 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM

They were called Kaiten, they were operational and more sophisticated than you describe.

There were mother subs dedicated to transporting them and one of the more interesting stories to come from the Japanese side of the war in the Pacific.

cozmo on April 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM

The North has been buying weapons on the black market for years, and that is one reason the nation is starving. Everyone, except Iran is fed up with North Korea. Even China.

saiga on April 22, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Now come on, Ed. I’m sure Øbama would take immediate action…to protect the DPRK.

Kafir on April 22, 2010 at 1:24 PM

This is a job for Team America.

Christien on April 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

F*ck yeah!

Monica on April 22, 2010 at 1:24 PM

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