Tea Party Express endorses Democrat in Idaho

posted at 8:48 am on April 21, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Vaughn Ward wonders when the Tea Party Express passed him by.  The Republican challenger to Blue Dog Democrat Rep. Walt Minnick in Idaho figured to at least have a shot at an endorsement to switch the seat from a vote for Nancy Pelosi and Democratic control of the House.  Instead, the Tea Party Express endorsed Minnick, and left a lot of head-scratching behind in Idaho afterward:

When the Tea Party Express last week endorsed Idaho Rep. Walt Minnick — the only Democrat to receive the backing of the conservative grassroots group — one of his Republican challengers said he was simply baffled to learn the news, considering Minnick’s past votes that line up with Democrats on bailouts, the estate tax and Guantanamo Bay.

“He voted for Nancy Pelosi. I mean all these things — I’m like, ‘Wait a minute. This is the guy you guys want to get behind nationally?’” said Republican Vaughn Ward, an active Marine Corps reserve officer whose candidacy for Minnick’s seat was endorsed by Sarah Palin.

His initial shock, Ward told The Daily Caller during an interview Tuesday, turned to frustration upon learning from Tea Party groups in Idaho — who he said have not endorsed candidates in the race yet — that the Tea Party Express didn’t consult them before the endorsement of the Democrat. …

Sal Russo, a strategist with Tea Party Express, said the group did reach out to a number of groups and activists, many of whom support Minnick. Democrats who “are willing to stand up to Pelosi and Reid” should get support from Tea Party organizations “to encourage others” to act similarly, he said.

“When you find someone willing to stand up, you got to stand up with him,” Russo said.

The strategist said he wouldn’t be surprised to see the group add another Democrat or two to the list. “It can’t be a one-party issue. Fiscal responsibility has to be embedded in both parties,” he said.

Tea Party groups from around the country have positioned themselves outside of the Republican Party, demanding accountability from GOP leadership before supporting Republicans. They have also made the point Russo notes here, that both parties need to have fiscal discipline in order for the US to end the spending spree that is sending us careening towards bankruptcy. In that sense, Minnick might be the one Democrat to support. While his party pushed a Porkulus bill that cost $830 billion and didn’t stimulate anything, Minnick proposed a $170 billion version that eliminated all of the pork and had self-termination clauses that returned unspent money after recovery began. He voted against Porkulus, cap-and-trade, and ObamaCare.

On the other hand, Minnick voted for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, and would certainly do so again in 2011 — and that makes a big difference. The Republicans aren’t guaranteed to win a majority, after all, and they need every seat they can get to take control of the House. Without a Republican majority, Pelosi will once again control the agenda and will continue to pursue her hard-Left, nanny-state, big spending legislation. A vote for Minnick makes that more likely rather than less, which puts the Tea Party efforts at least a little more at risk.

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Doughboy, most of those”brave” Democrats who voted against Obamascare were “allowed” to vote nay because Nancy had her votes.There’s nothing Conservative about most of them.

sandee on April 21, 2010 at 9:48 AM

That’s certainly possible. Which is why we need to look at their entire voting records to determine whether they’re real conservatives or just company men.

Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM

“Democrats who “are willing to stand up to Pelosi and Reid” should get support from Tea Party organizations “to encourage others” to act similarly, he said.”

This reminds me of an old one I used to hear:

Three frogs are sitting on the river bank and one of them “is willing” to jump in the water. How many frogs are now sitting on the bank?

Three. Just because you’re willing to do something, or “intend” to do something, doesn’t mean that you’ll do it.

This healthcare fight should have taught us that in the current administration and congress, there is NO SUCH THING as a blue dog democrat.

TugboatPhil on April 21, 2010 at 9:53 AM

it isn’t all about control of the next Congress;

Yes, it is.

we need to also look past that and give the very few Democrats that are fiscally sane recognition.

This story doesn’t show that Minnick is “fiscally sane.”
Far from it.

The goal is to eliminate the strength of the fiscally insane socialistic types everywhere; in BOTH parties.
michaelo on April 21, 2010 at 9:44 AM

The goal is ultimately, to take our country back, and to do that, the GOP has to get the majority back from the Democrats in both houses of Congress.

BTW, I live in your area and I’ve never heard of your TP group.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2010 at 9:53 AM

The Tea Party Express may have been in Idaho long enough to notice that the Idaho Republican Party is completely controlled by RINOs and is 1,000 times more hostile to conservatives and the Tea Party than they are toward Democrats opponents. The Idaho GOP routinely undermines new, fresh conservative candidates both in the Primary and in the General if they beat the establishment RINO in the Primary.

The Idaho GOP Establishment recently saddled Idaho with Jim Risch as Senator for 6 long years. Jim Risch was booted out of office and appointed back in more time than you can count. He was despised by his constituents and nearly always lost in him home county/district even when he ran as an incumbent. The senior Senator and Republican Congressman have both been in various elected offices since before any of you were born.

If you don’t know how screwed up the Idaho Republican Party is, you might want to do a little digging before you jump to conclusions about the Tea Party Express’s decision.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM

That’s certainly possible. Which is why we need to look at their entire voting records to determine whether they’re real conservatives or just company men.

Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM

If he has Democrat next to his name, he’s not a conservative on any level.

Epic Fail by the Corporate Tea Party Express.

uknowmorethanme on April 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Please, my 2 dem senators ran as pro-business, fiscally sensible blue dogs and are complete sellouts – Warner and Webb.

No dem endorsements.

perries on April 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM

The problem is that the republican party at large is nothing more than a lesser democrat party in ideology. If the Americans don’t start standing up against that, then we will never get anything thing change. The argument of voting for the candidate that sucks the least is a dumb argument if all the candidates suck.

paulsur on April 21, 2010 at 9:56 AM

If the Rep is a Scozzafava, I can see the Tea Party getting behind someone else. Otherwise, a vote for any Democrat is a vote for Nanzi Peelousy.

Sekhmet on April 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM

I had always thought ‘taking back the government’ would be (at least) a 3 election cycle process – with 2010 being the most important, because we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO regain the House of Representatives in this cycle. The first order of business in “cleaning house” is to take out the trash. This means for 2010, we HAVE to elect Republicans since we live in a 2 party system and have to deal with that reality. We can only take back the House if there are more Republican members than Democrat.

We use the next election cycle 2012 to gain the Presidency, take the Senate – and vote out any/all remaining squishy ‘Republicans’ (i.e. those who proved themselves RINOS despite their promises to the contrary.

2014 is to make sure the rest of the trash is taken out (do you hear me Lindsey Graham?)

alwyr on April 21, 2010 at 10:02 AM

I don’t always vote Republican but I never vote for a Democrat. No matter who endorses them.

Oldnuke on April 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM

If he has Democrat next to his name, he’s not a conservative on any level.

Epic Fail by the Corporate Tea Party Express.

uknowmorethanme on April 21, 2010 at 9:55 AM

C’mon, that’s simply not true. If we let the Tea Party become nothing more than a vehicle for electing Republicans, then it’s simply a grassroots version of the RNC.

I agree that our best shot at fiscal sanity in this country is a revitalized, conservative Republican Party. But there are some conservative Dems out there and they should be supported when they stick to their guns and oppose the Pelosi/Reid/Obama left-wing agenda.

Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM

we HAVE to elect Republicans since we live in a 2 party system and have to deal with that reality. We can only take back the House if there are more Republican members than Democrat.

Since 1996 we’ve tried the “elect crappy Republicans because they’re not Democrats” method. Now we have the most spineless, nutless, weak, pathetic, incompetent, out-of-touch bunch of Republicans imaginable. They cave on everything, can’t communicate if our very lives depend on it, and can’t even hold their caucus together.

Been there, done that, trying something different this time.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM

The lesson of the blue dogs is clear – when push comes to shove, they’ll vote with the democrat party leadership.

There might come a time when we’ll be able to look at individual candidates and vote on their merits – that time will be when the democrat party stops being the progressive socialist party.

Until then, you have to vote the party.

Rebar on April 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM

What is the Tea Party Express? Isn’t that a group co-opting the whole Tea Party thing?

Daggett on April 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Conservative Democrat is an Oxymoron.

Guardian on April 21, 2010 at 10:09 AM

C’mon, that’s simply not true. If we let the Tea Party become nothing more than a vehicle for electing Republicans, then it’s simply a grassroots version of the RNC.

I agree that our best shot at fiscal sanity in this country is a revitalized, conservative Republican Party. But there are some conservative Dems out there and they should be supported when they stick to their guns and oppose the Pelosi/Reid/Obama left-wing agenda.

How naive can some people be? If this Democrat had truly been needed to get the bill through, you don’t think there wouldn’t have been an excellent chance he would have been with the BugEyed speaker?

Some Democrats, in conservative districts, in order to fool people into thinking that they are conservatives, were allowed to vote against the bill, to give them cover.

If control of the house rests upon one vote, and it could happen, and this Democrat is elected, the tea party endorsers would show they were simply just another group of self serving politicans wanting their bums kissed.

TiminPhx on April 21, 2010 at 10:09 AM

C’mon, that’s simply not true. If we let the Tea Party become nothing more than a vehicle for electing Republicans, then it’s simply a grassroots version of the RNC.
Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM

There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat. Is that PC on part of the Tea Party Express Establishment?

antisocial on April 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM

I appreciate the attention the Tea Party Express bring to things, but, they are not the Tea Party Mvmt, Hubby and I usually attend the Tea Party Patriot rallies which are grass roots not Dick Armey run.

ginaswo on April 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM

I’m with Jenfidel. I think this is part of the “sabotage” that is going to increase the closer we get to November. Remember, support those candidates that YOU believe will actually fight for and benefit we, the people. I don’t really care who backs who in this, Sarah Palin backing McCain….NOT. Sarah can support whomever she chooses as can you and I. For me and my house, we are going to support the candidates that we believe in.

sicoit on April 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM

But there are some conservative Dems out there and they should be supported when they stick to their guns and oppose the Pelosi/Reid/Obama left-wing agenda.

Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM

In all seriousness, who are these people and when is the last time they showed themselves? My Congressman, Rick Boucher (D- VA 9th), was basically allowed to vote against the healthcare bill.

The guy has been in D.C. since the end of Reagan and has supervised the demise of southwest Virginia’s mining and manufacturing industries. He’ll run again and talk about how he “fought” for us and opposed Pelosi, but he was completely silent up to the final vote.

Putting “R”s into seat this year has got to be step one. They can be culled in 12 if they don’t toe the line. But Ds are not going to stand up to anyone as long as they hold all the cards.

I’m ashamed to say that my first Presidential vote was for Carter in 76. I’m now like OldNuke, I may not always vote Republican, but I never vote Democrat.

TugboatPhil on April 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Minnick voted for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker

Has ANY representative ever vote against their own party in the Speaker election? Not in any vote record I have seen, so while they might not vote against their party for speaker, they can like Rep. Minnick vote against many of the policies they propose.

Personally I agree that the Tea Party needs to endorse any members of congress that follow the ideas of limited government and less taxes, which based on the limited information presented here Rep. Minnick has done.

JeffinSac on April 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Didn’t they learn anything about “blue dogs” with Stupak?

It’s not like politicians lie to get what they want. See: John McCain/Immigration.

Good Lord.

tru2tx on April 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Every sellout RINO Republican that gets elected to Congress ensures that the Republican Party power structure is controlled by sellout RINO Republicans. So sellout RINOs will pick and groom candidates at the state level and handpick Congressional & Senate candidates. That way we can be absolutely certain we’ll continue to have RINO sellouts on the Republican side of the aisle, and their kissin’ cousins Lefty Democrats on the other side. Works out great for them and BAD for the rest of us. So when we have a chance to rid ourselves of a known bad apple in our own basket we have to do that unless we want a future filled with rotten apples.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 10:16 AM

My interpratation of the TEA Party movement was to be against Outrageous spending, higher taxes, and government intervention into personal lives. Minnick has done that more than most of the Republicans in office, even more so then the other 3 elected officials we have. Instead of just disagreeing with a bill, He makes his own solutions, as Ed points out.

The problem is people are getting out side of the origional idea of the movement and trying to make it include all ares of the conservative political spectrum. Abortion, Gitmo, what ever. If the tea party wants to stay on topic of those key points, then Minnick is perfect.

I didn’t vote for Minnick. I voted for Bill Sali (Even though that guy flooded my mail box with opinion questionairs. Thanks for wasting my money Sali) This year though I wont be making the same mistake.

BigRichardSmall on April 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM

I’d rather have a democrat from the 60-70s than a RINO from the 2000s.

jukin on April 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM

BTW I just went to the http://www.teapartyexpress.org website and can find no record of any endorsements, so where exactly is this information coming from? The Daily Caller article list one person stating they did, but I can find no official announcement of any endorsements by them.

JeffinSac on April 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Minnick may have voted against porkulus, cap and trade, and ObamaCare, but after Stupak, I am unwilling to believe he wouldn’t have changed his vote on ObamaCare if necessary.

Never trust a Democrat. Never again. That is the price he pays for being a member of a party that would stoop this low.

Caiwyn on April 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Neither party has a good history with fiscal discipline. That is why there is a tea party movement.

lexhamfox on April 21, 2010 at 10:22 AM

I do not think it is as simple as yes or no.

I agree with the move. It puts principle over party and lets the GOP know it is not about them.

Do I trust the GOP to behave in a way that the Tea Party wants come January? Hell no. They are still mostly made up of Washington insiders. When Jim DeMint and Paul Ryan are running the show I’ll have more trust but that is not happening. Boehner held onto power in spite of the headwinds against him. For them it is still about power and not about serving us or shrinking government. When the GOP KNOWS we are serious then they will act accordingly.

If the GOP takes control and pulls a Gingrich (“Shrinking” but not really shrinking government. Not addressing the long term issues facing America, repealing Glass-Steagall) then they need to face punishment. This move lets the GOP we aren’t falling for the banana in the tailpipe we aren’t falling for another George Bush. We want change and we are willing to find it on both sides of the aisle.

Theworldisnotenough on April 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Walt Minnick is more fiscally conservative than a lot of Republicans in Congress. I think it is a good idea for the Tea Party to get behind a fiscal conservative Democrat. For all of you screaming and up in arms about how dare the Tea Party not suppport all Republicans, well look how fiscal conservative the Republicans were after 2000.

firepilot on April 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Think nationally, act locally–this is what the Tea Party SHOULD be doing!

Thinking nationally means realizing that ANY Democrat in the House will vote for Pelosi for Speaker, and can’t be counted on to oppose her and Obama on any given issue.

It’s also easy for a Rep. to tell his constituents one thing at home and do the exact opposite in Washington, especially if “home” is far from Washington (like Idaho). How many times did Tom Daschle fool the conservative folks in South Dakota every six years, while leading the Senate liberals in DC? Until John Thune came along and told South Dakotans the truth, and even then he barely squeaked by.

Idaho is not exactly a liberal bastion, but liberal bastions do exist where no conservative has a ghost of a chance, and House members from liberal bastions need to be counteracted by REAL conservatives from places where they CAN be elected, without selling out to some spin that “this Democrat is different”.

That might work for a Zell Miller (who strongly supported George W. Bush for President in 2004) or Joe Lieberman, who takes SOME conservative positions despite coming from a liberal bastion.

But Idaho? The Tea Party should be supporting the most conservative Republican candidate in the field, who CAN get elected, not some weaselly Democrat like Minnick (or even a tap-dancing Republican like Larry Craig). We need a little “stategery”, not Kool-Aid, in our tea!!!

Steve Z on April 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM

People need to study Political Science 101.

All Democrats are guilty by association right now because they all put in a hard left liberal Speaker of the House.

If he hadn’t voted for Pelosi then it would be ok. People don’t realize how controlling the House leadership is.

This kind of stuff has made me worry the Tea Parties have no direction, (thus not effective) can you people prove me wrong?

scotash on April 21, 2010 at 10:34 AM

There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat. Is that PC on part of the Tea Party Express Establishment?

antisocial on April 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM

So any Dem who voted against both Porkulus and Obamacare(the two signature pieces of legislation of this President and the 111th Congress) gets zero credit? It sounds like this all about party loyalty for some. I don’t understand how one can harp endlessly about RINOs betraying the conservative movement by supporting left-wing bills, yet not offer any defense for Democrats when they vote against the very same bills.

Doughboy on April 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM

This kind of stuff has made me worry the Tea Parties have no direction, (thus not effective) can you people prove me wrong?

Can you please explain what the direction the RNC has? Or the GOP leadership in the House or the Senate? Or the NRCC?

If the Tea Party just ends up being a wrecking ball, that’s fine with me.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM

This story is a lie.
The Tea Party Express has not endorsed Minnick.

This story is supposed to embarrass Sarah Palin, who endorsed Minnick’s GOP opponent, Major Vaughn Ward.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM

If you don’t know how screwed up the Idaho Republican Party is, you might want to do a little digging before you jump to conclusions about the Tea Party Express’s decision.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM

If the IRP is so screwed up why aren’t the people changing that? And yes they can. In Ohio and some other states, 912 Project members and Tea Partiers are running for State Central Committee and Precinct Committeemen, the people in the party with the power. And they are giving the incumbents a run for their money. Time to quit complaining and making excuses and do something about it.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 10:40 AM

For the most part tea party members are smart people how ever there are some stupid one,s out there.There is no such thing as a conservative Blue dog Dem.

thmcbb on April 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM

I sympathize with their effort to reach across the aisle into Blue Dog territory, but this cycle, the Dogs are a vote for Pelosi and Reid, and basically need to be eliminated.

victor82 on April 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM

and the political correctness of Both Parties chips away.

tomas on April 21, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Instead, the Tea Party Express endorsed Minnick, and left a lot of head-scratching behind in Idaho afterward:

So Dick Armey endorsed the Democrat?

“Tea Party Express” that’s Dick Armey (R) brand of Tea Party. Let him endorse the Democrat see what good it does. Looks like a hiccup to me. There are 219 Democrats that voted for that lousy Health Insurance Reform Bill. If Dick Armey thinks this is Republican political machinations business as usual, he is going to be sadly disappointed. I am an Independent, I won’t vote for anyone who voted for that “Stinking Piece Of Legislation” And since I am an informed voter, like other voters who are going to vote in the mid term election. Dick Armey needs to remember 1. We are wise to the RINO agenda 2. Independents decide elections see Scott Brown (R) Mass.

I have no investment in the Republican Party, if I have to vote for someone outside the two parties I will, it’s no big thing- the Republicans want to stay in the political wilderness? Apparently the Republican establishment are slow learners. If this is Dick Armey’s way of trying to “herd” people to the Republican candidate, through some kind of negative manipulation (Endorsing the Democrat) someone should tell him, Tea Party folks are the opposite of Herd Mentality folks who elected Obama, we think for ourselves. This isn’t politics as usual this year. JUST say NO to RINOS and DINOS.

In fact I don’t just use that health insurance reform legislation as the only litmus test for Republican candidates. I use the 1st TARP that got us put on this path to European Socialism in the first place. If you voted for that TARP you lost my vote.

Dr Evil on April 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Tea Partiers may be comprised of former Dems and Independents, but they should NEVER EVER endorse a Democrat!!! Their collective memories are very short. The Dems just rammed through a bill the majority did not want. Hey Idaho Tea Party…”Knock, knock–Is anyone home in there?”

Nalea on April 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM

These people are listing to Glen Beck to damn much.He seem to think we can work with so blue dems.

thmcbb on April 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Seems to me that Ben Nelson was considered a conservative Democrat not too long ago. We saw how that played out.

Mo money!

John Deaux on April 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM

I’m sure this article is an example of “tea party strategists” trying to be too cute. “Hey, if we endorse a Dim, people will think we’re objective.” Don’t worry about the guy voting for Pelosi, if it makes us look better…Never put expediency above values. – flyoverland on April 21, 2010 at 9:16 AM

That’s exactly right. If this information is correct, how is the Tea Party movement any more principled than those ‘RINO’ Republicans who are regularly condemned for being mealy-mouth squishes who sacrifice principle in order to curry favor with the press?

This endorsement, if Idohoans take it to heart, would help to keep Democrats in power in Congress. Which means the opposition party cannot issue subpoenas to uncover all the sleazy backroom deals cut for Dems to vote for the nationalization of the health care industry, not to mention uncover all the laundered payments by this WH to SEIU with missing stimulus money. It means Republicans cannot keep bottled in committee any further socialist schemes the Democrats have up their sleeves to sabotage the economic recovery & bankrupt the next generation. It means that Barack Obama will have carte blanche to continue sending this country on the downward trajectory he (& his pastors & mentors) believe eeeeevil America has coming to her.

In other words, this endorsement is ANATHEMA to the few core Tea Party principle all TPers across the country can agree upon. If the only possible thing it might accomplish is to make the loons at CNN “like them” for five minutes for trying to appear bipartisan, is it worth it to sell out Tea Party members’ kids futures for that?

That’s insane. And it it would be rather funny to see all the people who regularly trash members of other parties for doing the SAME DAMN THING fall all over themselves to defend this, if it were not so tragic to see the Tea Party Express has evidently become infected by Lindsey Graham disease itself and has chosen to sacrifice principle (& their kids’ futures) for a stupid hat tip from Chris Matthews.

(I’m still hoping the news of this endorsement to help save Nancy Pelosi’s job is not accurate however. TPINO just doesn’t have the same ring as RINO)

leilani on April 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM

“Blue Dog” Democrat – can you say “Bart Stupak”?

Ward Cleaver on April 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM

They say he voted against Obamacare. Who would like to bet that he was one of the last ones who sat and waited to make sure it would pass before casting his no vote?

John Deaux on April 21, 2010 at 10:53 AM

If being a democrat involves voting to make Peloci the Speaker, then the answer is ‘no’.

Count to 10 on April 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM

For the most part tea party members are smart people how ever there are some stupid one,s out there.There is no such thing as a conservative Blue dog Dem.

thmcbb on April 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM

That’s true and I used to believe otherwise, until that POS passed, and the rest of Democrats followed the Progressives aka wannabee socialist agenda. I am convinced now if people want a real fiscal conservative representing them, that person won’t have a (D) after their name. The Progressives herded the Democrats off the cliff but they couldn’t have done it if the Democrats were not so weak and in disarray.

Look at Stupack what a joke of a Democrat, pretending to take a principled stand on abortion, when he had no REAL intention of voting against that Bill. So Dick Armey is endorsing a Democrat in Idaho, what is he thinking – we have short attention spans, and can be easily manipulated and herded around? They may have to spend another year out of the majority till they get the point we are not interested in any of their “PROGRESSIVE” agendas. It’ all about Power, how they get to that Power takes us voting them into Power. Throw the Bums….anyone preaching the progressive agenda. Climate Change, Health Insurance Reform, Apologist for tax payer bailouts of Private Companies…It’s not that difficult to figure out the white hats from the black hats.

Dr Evil on April 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Throw the bums out…

Dr Evil on April 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM

This story is a lie.
The Tea Party Express has not endorsed Minnick.

This story is supposed to embarrass Sarah Palin, who endorsed Minnick’s GOP opponent, Major Vaughn Ward.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Can you explain why they then would put Minnick on their List of Heros as someone they support? Check the media scroll on their site for links to the story..
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/media/
And here is the story on CNN…
http://tinyurl.com/y36zc3k

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM

rootbaga: While I commiserate with your frustration “Been There Done That” (electing RINOs), the one absolutely unalterable fact remains, in a two party system, we can only take back the House if there are more ‘Republican’ members than Democrat.

If you’re prepared to sacrifice the opportunity to take back the House in November 2010 in a quest for party purity, then all I can say is you and I have a radically differing view on the importance of the upcoming election.

alwyr on April 21, 2010 at 11:06 AM

The guy is one of the blue dogs, people who ran as conservatives, and governed as liberals. Why exactly should we trust him??

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Voyager on April 21, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I’m sure this is already upthread somewhere, but give the Tea Party Express hell for this. Here’s their contact page

bestwins on April 21, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Interesting comments on here. Here’s my input from one who lives in Minnick’s district.

Firstly, Minnick is a first-term congressman. He ran against a RINO in 2008 and won because his stance was more conservative than the GOP incumbent. Minnick represents a largely conservative district and he knows it.

Second, the 2008 election was the same election that Odammit won in. When we voted, we did not know at the time who would win the presidency. Placing blame for voting for a new candidate while not knowing exactly how 2009 would turn out is not productive. (Placing blame for voting for currently sitting and proven liberal, now that’s a different story.)

Third, while Minnick has sided with the D’s on some issues, he has also sided with the R’s on others. Would his predecessor have done the same? It’s hard to say, but as I said before, the previous man was a RINO. I have not been so dissatisfied with Minnick to say he deserves to be fired so quickly.

HOWEVER…The GOP candidate appears to be a real conservative, but a lot of them do during the campaign process. It remains to be seen over the next few months whether he is or not. If so, he wins my vote.

JohnTheBuilder on April 21, 2010 at 11:10 AM

To be accepted by the Tea Party, you would think they would have to denounce the present status quo…so basically the Tea Party is saying “Promise and we will deliver”, you don’t have to prove you are sincere?
Message to the Tea Party: Trust but Verify…
Don’t take the promises without first seeing some action to support those promises.

right2bright on April 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM

The Tea Party Express is an ego driven organization (as are most) that is trying to run to the front of our angry and racist mob as if to lead it.

No Democrats deserves any favor from the tea party folks until they have absorbed the smackdown that is coming 11-2-10. After that more may become fiscal converts and commit to promote fiscal conservatism within their causus and leadership.

Republicans at least are now flapping their lips properly.

exdeadhead on April 21, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Dude, you people have no clue about Idaho Republicans. They believe they are BETTER than the people that vote for them, and they let us know it. They do not need to listen to you, you need to listen to them. They do not need to follow the laws, they make the laws! And if you don’t like it, what are you going to do, vote Democrat? Come on, they say, this is Idaho. We own Idaho, and we own you. Guess what? That attitude caused a backlash, and defeating that form of government arrogance that has forgotten it serves the people is exactly what the Tea Party is about. So come up here and you will see, Minnick is way better than the other options. Minnick is the first Democrat I have ever voted for.

ASimpleDad on April 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM

OK, good find, Deanna, but…
I’ve never heard of the TPE endorsing anyone…and it’s rather curious that the TPE links to CNN and CNN refers back to them (???)
Something’s not right.
And one of the commenters at the CNN story says that Minnick votes with the Dems in Congress 70% of the time.

Sarah Palin has endorsed and is now raising money for Minnick’s GOP opponent Major Vaughn Ward.
I suppose it shows that the Tea Party Movement isn’t controlled by the GOP and it is, at least sometimes, bi-partisan.
I’m still voting straight GOP myself just to be on the safe side and I sent Vaughn Ward money when Governor Palin asked us to on March 29.

Jenfidel on April 21, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Should they endorse Democrats? If they’re the best candidate, absolutely! People voting strictly party lines (and not paying attention to the issues) is part of what got us into our current situation in the first place.

Heresy of Cain on April 21, 2010 at 11:29 AM

In follow-up to my previous statement (in a two party system, we can only take back the House if there are more ‘Republican’ members than Democrat), can everyone subscribe to the suggestion where there is a contested (Republican) primary, the primary winner gets our vote in November.

The only factor which will be considered in determining who controls the House will be “How many Republicans got elected compared to how many Democrats got elected?”

In making that critical determination, nobody will be asking how many RINOs managed to get elected? it’s the number of people with ‘Republican’ behind their names which controls the outcome.

alwyr on April 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Jenfidel on April 21, 2010 at 11:18 AM

The excuse for this endorsement or hero or whatever was (from the link)

In the lengthy press conference that partially amounted to a pat on the back for their efforts at impacting a handful of key races in the last several months, the group said they are only supporting candidates they feel have a viable shot at winning next November.

“In politics, you always have to be careful to promise what to do,” said Sal Russo, a GOP consultant who is aiding the Tea Party in their efforts. “We try to keep our focus on the doable. We have a lot of wonderful candidates that simply can’t win. So our focus is on the candidates that can win so we can really focus on taking America back.”

So they aren’t willing to truly go out and work for someone to get them elected, simply picking people to support who are guaranteed wins or something…pretty sad state of affairs. I think Armey wants to have some power back and is using the TPE to get it.

As I said to another poster, we need to work from within and get on the party State Central Committees and elected as Precinct Committeemen. That’s the way to change the party.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM

I think it’s a good idea to endorse one or two Democrats. It has a couple of benefits:
1. Screw with the media narrative.
2. Give hope to other Democrats that they may still repent and be saved.

joe_doufu on April 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM

alwyr: So you are saying do what we did for 12 years straight: in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, and half of us in 2006.

My question is what good came of it?

My answer is, it got us McCain as the nominee (thanks to RINOs controlling the RNC because we voted them in), and Reid, Pelosi, and Obama thanks to the abysmal performance of elected Republicans.

So explain to me how repeating our past strategy is going to have a different outcome this time. I’d really like to know if you have an idea.

I think there is an effort in Idaho to clear the huge pile of dead wood out of the Idaho Republican Party, and it has very little to do with Walt Minnick.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 11:37 AM

I think that they should look at all parties, but if this guy has been voting with Pelosi and the Republican has been voting against her, then the true question is how the TEA party could endorse a big govt liberal.

It appears that the libs really have infiltrated the TEA parties, at least in Idaho.

jeffn21 on April 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Dude, you people have no clue about Idaho Republicans. They believe they are BETTER than the people that vote for them, and they let us know it. They do not need to listen to you, you need to listen to them. They do not need to follow the laws, they make the laws! And if you don’t like it, what are you going to do, vote Democrat? Come on, they say, this is Idaho. We own Idaho, and we own you. Guess what? That attitude caused a backlash, and defeating that form of government arrogance that has forgotten it serves the people is exactly what the Tea Party is about. So come up here and you will see, Minnick is way better than the other options. Minnick is the first Democrat I have ever voted for.

ASimpleDad on April 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Well I’ll keep saying this until someone gets the idea. If the GOP in your state is worthless, change it. Run for State Central Committe or Precinct Committeeman. Doesn’t take many signatures to get on a ballot but it does take some effort. It’s being done in several states that are far worse than Idaho as far as the GOP is concerned. Takes some work and maybe time, but it can be done.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Deanna,

What you are witnessing is part of the effort to change the rotten stinking worthless Idaho Republican Party. So stand up & cheer from Ohio, and encourage your fellow workers in the vineyard.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Should Tea Party organizations endorse Democrats for Congress?

Rarely, on an only as needed basis.

Lockstein13 on April 21, 2010 at 11:42 AM

I’m all for endorsing Conservative Democrats and there’s a few reasons why.

Firstly – this isn’t unusual. The National Rifle Association does this ALL THE TIME. They even contribute to the campaigns of Democrats who voted FOR Nancy Pelosi as SotH. They do this even knowing that Pelosi has the worst record on the second amendment since gunpowder was invented.

Second – the GOP hasn’t embraced the Tea Party movement and continues to push Republican candidates who are nothing more than Democrats – like Charlie Crist (endorsed by the NRSC), Arlen Specter (who was endorsed by the NRSC until he switched parties), Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Dede Scozzafava … hell, I could go on.

Since the GOP hasn’t embraced the Tea Party movement – I see no reason for Tea Party loyalty to the GOP here. The GOP didn’t start the Tea Party – it was their big spending with the Democrats that started the Tea Parties up.

If the GOP wants to embrace the Tea Parties – then they can go out and RECRUIT Tea Party candidates to run on the GOP. They can go out and RECRUIT Tea Party members to be local, state, and national party officials. None of that is really happening.

In fact, the opposite is happening. In Mississippi 4th – the Tea Party has been energized and enthusiastically backing Joe Tegerdine for almost a year now in his quest to unseat Blue Dog Democrat Gene Taylor. However, the GOP doesn’t like Joe Tegerdine so they went out at the 11th hour to recruit an establishment Republican, Steven Palazzo, to contest Tegerdine in the primary.

The GOP can stuff it. They only want to use the Tea Parties for their own political gain.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM

The issue is that tea party participants don’t view themselves as a nationally organized group with one single thought process or party line.

The Tea Party Express people (whoever that is) has hijacked the name to get people to show up to their events.

There is no “leadership” for this unorganized group of people who show up and protest our government’s outrages. Any endorsement the Tea Party Express gives is nothing more than an endorsement from the single individual (or very small group) of people that run that entity.

It is in no way an endorsement by the people showing up to tea parties across the country.

The Tea Party Express people have just proven they are a part of the problem and not the solution. They continue the same tired approach of a top-down run organization. The individuals going to tea parties don’t want that. That’s why they’re out there protesting to get a bottom-up solution.

ButterflyDragon on April 21, 2010 at 11:55 AM

When the Tea Party Express last week endorsed Idaho Rep. Walt Minnick — the only Democrat to receive the backing of the conservative grassroots group — one of his Republican challengers said he was simply baffled to learn the news, considering Minnick’s past votes that line up with Democrats on bailouts, the estate tax and Guantanamo Bay.

Guantanamo Bay? Is Guantanamo Bay even a Tea Party Movement issue?

As far as the estate tax, well maybe, but I don’t think too many Tea Party members are in that wealth class.

MB4 on April 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Democrats who “are willing to stand up to Pelosi and Reid” should get support from Tea Party organizations “to encourage others” to act similarly, he said.

Absolutely incorrect. The Tea Party’s strength lies in embracing principle over politics. And the overriding ideals of the movement are a return to the Constitutional principles of individual freedom, personal responsibility, and limited govt. Within that framework, the worst Republican is better than the best Democrat, because at it’s core, the Democratic Party is premised on the same animating principle that has defined all coercive govts throughout the ages (e.g., monarchy, authoritarian, totalitarian, etc.): namely, the belief that govt needs to act as the stewards of men. And any society that embraces that belief is eventually doomed to tyranny.

Any group under the aegis of the Tea Party should definitely stay away from endorsement politics. It’s poisonous as all hell to the movement.

While I understand the sentiment, it’s impossible to avoid; otherwise, the Tea Party protests are nothing more than a pop culture phenonemon, like a rock concert…you go to hear what you like, then you go home and wait for the next concert.

In order to effect political change, you eventually have to make a stand and choose. The beauty of the Tea Party movement is this: if it’s done correctly, the Tea Party doesn’t have to do the choosing…the candidates do.

The message to candidates should be simple and clear:


“We stand for the Constitutional principles of individual freedom, personal responsibility, and limited govt. Come and show us that you embrace –
and will uphold – those principles, and we will embrace you in the primaries and at the polls.”

This is what the Left is so terrified of – the advocacy of principles over politics. They’re terrified because they know that it’s battle they can’t win. All of their attacks – the charges of astroturfing…of ignorance…of racism – serve one purpose: to attempt to turn this into a political fight.

Why? Because political arguments are tied to men…arguments of principles are tied to humanity. If you make an argument political, all you have to do is destroy the man/men advocating it, thus you destroy the public’s willingness to listen. The Left has made this into an artform. As one of their heroes instructed:


“To rely upon conviction, devotion, and other excellent spiritual qualities; that is not to be taken seriously in politics.” – Vladimir Lenin

But how do you attack the principle of individual freedom? Of personal responsibility? Of leaving people to enjoy the fruits of their labor?

The Tea Party movement makes a mistake every time it wastes energy trying to disprove the Left’s endless barrage of red herrings and straw men. They should simply respond by reiterating their principles:


“Where is the “astroturfing” in advocating Constitutional principles of individual freedom, personal responsibility, and limited govt?”

“Where is the “ignorance” in advocating Constitutional principles of individual freedom, personal responsibility, and limited govt?”

“Where is the “racsim” in advocating Constitutional principles of individual freedom, personal responsibility, and limited govt?”

rvastar on April 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM

The Republicans are really good at snatiching defeat from the jaws of victory.

FL will be a gain for Dems in the Senate.

Now Idaho will be a safe Dem seat in the House.

And it’s only April!!

Obama really doesn’t have anything to worry about.

angryed on April 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM

If the Tea Parties only endorse Republican candidates, doesn’t that make them part of the Republican party?

Jimbo3 on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM

They can’t support Democrats this time around. Nancy Pelosi needs to be stripped of her power and after the Tea Party is finished reforming the Republican party, then they can move on to Democrats and force fiscal discipline back on them. No way should any Democrat wo supports Nancy Pelosi as party leader be given an endorsement and who is the Tea Party express to just go around endorsing candidates for publicity without consulting other tea party groups? They are acting like the RNC.

Daemonocracy on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM

If the Tea Parties only endorse Republican candidates, doesn’t that make them part of the Republican party?

Jimbo3 on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM

They shouldn’t be endorsing anyone. Tea parties are not about endorsing candidates.

ButterflyDragon on April 21, 2010 at 11:59 AM

If the Tea Parties only endorse Republican candidates, doesn’t that make them part of the Republican party?

Jimbo3 on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM

If the SEIU only supports Dem candidates doesn’t that make them part of the Dem party? Doesn’t seem to bother anyone on the left now does it?

angryed on April 21, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Deanna, alwyr, Ed & Co.

In 2006 there was a REPUBLICAN Primary for Walt Minnick’s seat. The conservative Republican beat the Idaho GOP’s RINO candidate.

In the General Election the Idaho GOP establishment worked hard to make sure Walt Minnich beat the conservative. They couldn’t trust the conservative, chosen by the voters, to be a butt-kissing toady to the likes of Senators Risch & Crapo, Congressman Simpson or Governor Butch (tigh-jeans)Otter.

The Idaho Republican RINO establishment intends to take the seat back that they GAVE to Minnick, and the Idaho people have had it with them overruling the electorate.

That’s the story in a nutshell.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 12:01 PM

If the Tea Parties only endorse Republican candidates, doesn’t that make them part of the Republican party?

Jimbo3 on April 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM
If the SEIU only supports Dem candidates doesn’t that make them part of the Dem party? Doesn’t seem to bother anyone on the left now does it?

angryed on April 21, 2010 at 12:00 PM

–SEIU is a union and does things that are not election- or politically-related. What do the Tea Parties do that are not election- or politically-related?

Jimbo3 on April 21, 2010 at 12:02 PM

The Republicans aren’t guaranteed to win a majority, after all, and they need every seat they can get to take control of the House. Without a Republican majority, Pelosi will once again control the agenda and will continue to pursue her hard-Left, nanny-state, big spending legislation.

With all House seats up and the winds and currents so favorable to Republicans now, if they can’t take the House, then the American people want national socialism and we are scroomed anyway so don’t sweat the details.

MB4 on April 21, 2010 at 12:04 PM

What you are witnessing is part of the effort to change the rotten stinking worthless Idaho Republican Party.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 11:42 AM

So to ‘save’ the Republican party in Idaho, we have to help keep the Pelosi|Reid|Obama triumvirate firmly ensconced in power and give them yet more time to continue nationalizing industries, empowering parasitic union thugs & royally screwing the next generation by bankrupting this nation & condemning them to a standard of living far below the one we and out parents have been privileged to enjoy, huh?

leilani on April 21, 2010 at 12:04 PM

And what exactly is this Tea Party Express? Is that like the real Tea Party, but FREE delivered to your inbox?

Emperor Norton on April 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM

he voted for bela polisi, and that is all I need to know and remind the voters of that in Idaho

ConservativePartyNow on April 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM

leilani
What would be preferrable is to allow Republican Primary voters choose candidates, and then have the Idaho GOP refrain from supporting the Democrat candidate against the the conservative Republican in the General election like they did with Walt Minnick in 2006.

The Idaho GOP elected Walt Minnick.
(see my previous post)

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Tea Party groups should support candidates from ANY party that holds to the positions of smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and lower tax and regulatory burdens on the people.

EasyEight on April 21, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Well I’ll keep saying this until someone gets the idea. If the GOP in your state is worthless, change it. Run for State Central Committe or Precinct Committeeman. Doesn’t take many signatures to get on a ballot but it does take some effort. It’s being done in several states that are far worse than Idaho as far as the GOP is concerned. Takes some work and maybe time, but it can be done.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM

And while that change is ongoing, I should vote for whoever the kingmakers in my state say I should? Why? The fact that Walt was voted in here shows you that we are already rebelling against the pathetic Republican party we have in this state, but if we don’t hold them to the fire and vote against their lame candidates, how can we expect them to change? And change is not simple. I have seen peoples lives and careers destroyed by those in power, using their office and the cronies to slander, to pressure to get contracts canceled, etc, those that opposed them. If you speak up, your livelihood is at risk. I have pointed out the abuses to higher levels, and been told nothing wrong was done. You obviously don’t know Idaho if you think you are proposing a simple task.

ASimpleDad on April 21, 2010 at 12:10 PM

The Idaho Republican RINO establishment intends to take the seat back that they GAVE to Minnick, and the Idaho people have had it with them overruling the electorate.

That’s the story in a nutshell.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 12:01 PM

It’s worse in Ohio. We got Taft and Voinovich, but he’s retiring so there’s hope. Then we got Sherrod Brown because the ORP wanted RINO DeWine. Now we have the ORP failing to support the Sovereignty amendment. The ORP has deliberately utilized their power to keep people off the ballot. There’s lots more but it’s too long to get into here. But Ohio is fortunate to have a fairly active Tea Party and 912 movement and the Ohio Liberty Council. So there’s been support for candidates running for the committee positions. Some of the encumbents were shocked to have an opponent. Most had run unopposed for years. People are waking up.
Got to run some errands. Have a good day and good luck.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Since 1996 we’ve tried the “elect crappy Republicans because they’re not Democrats” method. Now we have the most spineless, nutless, weak, pathetic, incompetent, out-of-touch bunch of Republicans imaginable. They cave on everything, can’t communicate if our very lives depend on it, and can’t even hold their caucus together.

Been there, done that, trying something different this time.

rootabaga on April 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM

So is Vaughn Ward a crappy RINO in your mind, and if not, why would support the TPE endorsing his opponent?

holygoat on April 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM

The democrats want to destroy the Tea Party movement at any cost anyway. Smears, lies, misinformation, sabotage, plants…yeah, I can see why the idiots in Idaho support the democrat over the republican. With “friends” like these who needs enemies?

mozalf on April 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Is that like the real Tea Party, but FREE delivered to your inbox?

It may be that Hot Air Express, FREE delivered to you inbox, will soon be the only way to get Hot Air, since the pages here have begun to load slowly or not at all, and when it does load, it’s accompanied by lots of flashing things that makes it tricky to scroll.

Emperor Norton on April 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Of all places, Idaho. I’m confused now. I thought the idea was getting some balance back in Washington by rooting out Dem house seats.
This is disappointing.

FireBlogger on April 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM

And change is not simple. I have seen peoples lives and careers destroyed by those in power, using their office and the cronies to slander, to pressure to get contracts canceled, etc, those that opposed them. If you speak up, your livelihood is at risk. I have pointed out the abuses to higher levels, and been told nothing wrong was done. You obviously don’t know Idaho if you think you are proposing a simple task.

ASimpleDad on April 21, 2010 at 12:10 PM

I didn’t say it was easy. I said it can be done. Vote for whomever you choose now, if you need to. But the only way to change the status quo is from within. And if you think no one in other states has come under the same kind of fire you’re mistaken. I’ve seen and heard worse. Some retreated but others are going on. It takes courage and conviction and effort and time. Some have those things, some don’t.
Find out who are the people on the committes. Find people or you yourself can run against them. But find others who believe as you do, organize, get support. It doesn’t happen overnight and no it’s not simple or easy. Have a good day. Good luck.

Deanna on April 21, 2010 at 12:22 PM

We’re not gonna fall for this. The opinion in this house, at least, was that while we were pretty happy with Minnick’s voting record, he was a Democrat…which means, he’d be voting for Pelosi as Speaker. So, he had to go. I’d wager many other Idahoans feel the same way. Either that, or they don’t care about the voting record, will see the ‘D’ next to his name, and vote Republican.
Oh, and Tea Party Express – stop trying to meddle in our elections!!

Emily M. on April 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM

It’s time to purge the Tea Party Movement!

year_of_the_dingo on April 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Damn – a lot of people on this blog seem to think the Tea Parties are in some kind of “servitude” to the Republican Party and the GOP has a right to somehow count on … nay, DEMAND that Tea Party folks vote for them.

Doesn’t work that way in a Democracy folks – sorry.

In a Democracy – a man’s vote is his or her own!

You want his vote – you don’t cry and scream and pound the table.

You look the man in the eye and you tell him “I want your vote and I’m willing to do what’s required to EARN it!”

Simply being the “lesser of two evils” doesn’t cut it when we’re this close to bankruptcy. We need fighters who will change directions – we don’t need anymore Scott Browns.

GOP wants the Tea Party vote they can earn it.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2010 at 12:29 PM

If the Tea Parties only endorse Republican candidates, doesn’t that make them part of the Republican party?

This is the same type of non sequitur as “since the Tea Party movement is overwhelmingly composed of whites, they must be a racist movement”.

Your “argument” only holds up if Tea Party groups endorse Republicans because they’re Republicans, which is not the case. They endorse Republicans because Republicans are the political candidates who most closely adhere to the principles the Tea Parties advocate.

rvastar on April 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Damn – a lot of people on this blog seem to think the Tea Parties are in some kind of “servitude” to the Republican Party and the GOP has a right to somehow count on … nay, DEMAND that Tea Party folks vote for them.

Doesn’t work that way in a Democracy folks – sorry.

In a Democracy – a man’s vote is his or her own!

You want his vote – you don’t cry and scream and pound the table.

You look the man in the eye and you tell him “I want your vote and I’m willing to do what’s required to EARN it!”

Simply being the “lesser of two evils” doesn’t cut it when we’re this close to bankruptcy. We need fighters who will change directions – we don’t need anymore Scott Browns.

GOP wants the Tea Party vote they can earn it.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2010 at 12:29 PM

So endorsing Walt Minnick is the answer? Really?

holygoat on April 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM

They endorse Republicans because Republicans are the political candidates who most closely adhere to the principles the Tea Parties advocate.

rvastar on April 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM

We had this discussion at our local Tea Party meeting the other day. The consensus we came to was “No”. Our chapter anyway isn’t going to endo the “lesser of two evils” just because he maybe the most conservative liberal on the ticket. We simply won’t endorse the guy or put any resources behind him – let him win it on his own.

The guys we elect to support are the guys who adhere CLOSELY to the principles – and the main principles meaning (1) Yes, I know the nation is going under soon unless a radical change to spending occurs and (2) I’m willing to be a part of that radical change.

This is just my local Tea Party though – and doesn’t speak for others around the nation or even in my state.

You guys need to energize RINO voters to go out and get RINO’s elected – Tea Party wants REAL Conservatives who have the guts to do what needs to be done. Well, at least mine does.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM

So endorsing Walt Minnick is the answer? Really?

holygoat on April 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Did I say that? I don’t even know who Walt Minnick is. I’m addressing Ed’s poll only.

HondaV65 on April 21, 2010 at 12:41 PM

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