Great news: FDA to regulate salt in processed foods

posted at 11:36 am on April 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

How does government intervention get sold to citizens?  First, publicize a “crisis” and warn that dire consequences will follow without some immediate changes.  Push people into changing their choices voluntarily with social pressure and warnings of impending disaster.  At some point, declare those efforts insufficient and propose government intervention as the only way to save people from themselves.

DDT? Global warming?  Alar?  No … salt:

The Food and Drug Administration is planning an unprecedented effort to gradually reduce the salt consumed each day by Americans, saying that less sodium in everything from soup to nuts would prevent thousands of deaths from hypertension and heart disease. The initiative, to be launched this year, would eventually lead to the first legal limits on the amount of salt allowed in food products.

The government intends to work with the food industry and health experts to reduce sodium gradually over a period of years to adjust the American palate to a less salty diet, according to FDA sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the initiative had not been formally announced.

Officials have not determined the salt limits. In a complicated undertaking, the FDA would analyze the salt in spaghetti sauces, breads and thousands of other products that make up the $600 billion food and beverage market, sources said. Working with food manufacturers, the government would set limits for salt in these categories, designed to gradually ratchet down sodium consumption. The changes would be calibrated so that consumers barely notice the modification.

The FDA has never interjected itself into the recipes of prepared foods.  Instead, they have enforced full disclosure on labels, allowing consumers to select the healthiest options for themselves if they wish.  Why the change?  The FDA says we can’t choose for ourselves:

Until now, the government has pushed the food industry to voluntarily reduce salt and tried to educate consumers about the dangers of excessive sodium. But in a study to be released Wednesday, an expert panel convened by the Institute of Medicine concludes that those measures have failed. The panel will recommend that the government take action, according to sources familiar with the findings.

Of course they will!  But there’s just one little problem.  According to the latest research, sodium intake isn’t really a health problem for normal adults. An Einstein University study in 2008 showed no connection between cardiovascular disease risk and higher-sodium diets:

High-salt diets may not increase the risk of death, contrary to long-held medical beliefs, according to investigators from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University.

They reached their conclusion after examining dietary intake among a nationally representative sample of adults in the U.S. The Einstein researchers actually observed a significantly increased risk of death from cardiovascular disease (CVD) associated with lower sodium diets.

The researchers analyzed data from the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III), which was conducted by the federal government among a nationally representative sample of U.S. adults. These data were then compared against death records that had been collected by the government through the year 2000. The sample of approximately 8,700 represented American adults who were over 30 years of age at the time of the baseline survey (1988-1994) and were not on a special low-salt diet.

After adjusting for known CVD risk factors, such as smoking, diabetes and blood pressure, the one-fourth of the sample who reported consuming the lowest amount of sodium were found to be 80% more likely to die from CVD compared to the one-fourth of the sample consuming the highest level of sodium. The risk for death from any cause appeared 24% greater for those consuming lower salt, but this latter difference was not quite large enough to dismiss the role of chance.

“Our findings suggest that for the general adult population, higher sodium is very unlikely to be independently associated with higher risk of death from CVD or all other causes of death,” says Dr. Hillel W. Cohen, associate professor of epidemiology and population health at Einstein.

But why let science spoil all of the nanny-state fun?  Don’t let facts get in the way of a crisis model for government intervention.  After all, it’s for your own good, which the elites in the federal bureaucracy obviously understand better than you do.

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The general goal of reducing government intervention is fine, but in this particular case it’s a good idea.

AlexB on April 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Uh…no.

mwdiver on April 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM

But I am not a freshwater Pisces, how am I supposed to live?

That’s it, I am going to put salt on my Cheerios. Double offense, triple fine health crime.

Rambotito on April 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM

They should encourage salt use. If salt truly is as evil as they say it is, then they should want people to have strokes and such. They will die sooner and it will remove them from needing health care.

Beaglemom on April 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM

And stop them from producing all that nasty carbon that’s warming the planet. *nods*

lonesome_pine on April 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

And yeah, as predicted last night – gub’mint control of cannibis is honkey dorey ok fine with ya, but by golly, those bastages better keep their cold clammy hands off the salt!

You mean people actually think about something and differentiate between weed and salt? Can’t have that can we? No, let’s just scream nanny stater at anyone who disagrees with us, before you know it it’ll be as irrelevant as charges of racism. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

clearbluesky on April 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

We’re all going to die, so the question is what is the government’s preferred method of death for U.S. Citizens?

Virginia Shanahan on April 20, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Answer: Intense Dependency Arrest Syndrome (“IDAS”)

WordsMatter on April 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Fact check from the Salt Association:

http://www.saltsense.co.uk/salt-faq01.htm

Why are we being urged to reduce the amount of salt in our diet?

A reduction in salt intake for people suffering from high blood pressure is an accepted part of an overall medical treatment for many suffering from the problem. However, for the vast majority of the population who do not suffer from high blood pressure there is no conclusive evidence that a low salt diet prevents the problem arising.

Research has shown that any ‘average’ reduction in blood pressure is miniscule and there may be large individual fluctuations (up or down) within this average. The government is following the ‘precautionary principle’ when urging us to reduce salt intake, but this may have its own risks because reducing sodium intake could in itself be harmful for some population groups such as pregnant women and senior citizens.

Virginia Shanahan on April 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Push people into changing their choices voluntarily with social pressure and warnings of impending disaster.

You mean kind of like calling people nanny staters and warning them of impending doom if they support any law you disagree with? Huh, where have i heard that before….

clearbluesky on April 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it’s inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

It is clearly saying that is collection of imposts and duties and is excepting States from collecting fees for Inspections. They can change the law of collection of Fees but it gives no authority to Federal government to do Inspections. The Supreme Court has ruled what your saying as unconstitutional in violation of the 5th amendment. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, 295 U.S. 495 (1935) FDR under the new deal tried to regulate poultry using the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933, it had requirements regarding the sale of whole chickens, including unhealthy chickens. Federal Government said Schechters sold sick poultry, it’s called “the sick chicken case”. Justice Louis Brandeis said, “This is the end of this business of centralization, and I want you to go back and tell the president that we’re not going to let this government centralize everything.”

Ed Laskie on April 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Does a salty diet give us high blood pressure?

There is no evidence that salt causes high blood pressure. Cutting back on salt will make little difference to the blood pressure of a healthy person whose kidneys excrete any excess salt from the body. High blood pressure, or hypertension, is triggered by a variety of factors. It is often a hereditary condition, or is triggered by a poor lifestyle, particularly obesity, a lack of exercise and excessive alcohol consumption.

Can we prevent high blood pressure by cutting cut back on salt?

If you already have high blood pressure, cutting back on salt may help the situation. However, other lifestyle changes, such as improving your diet, exercise and cutting back on alcohol consumption are far more efficient options. For most of us with normal blood pressure –

and particularly such sectors of society as senior citizens and pregnant women – lowering salt intake could actually harm your health. Look at the relevant sections of this website for more details.

Virginia Shanahan on April 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Tell your inorganic chemistry prof that he/she was right.

NaOH + HCl = H20 + NaCl. No Carbon (organic chem) offsets needed or desired.

NaCly dog on April 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM
If the government won’t let you have sodium chloride, it’s a safe bet they won’t let you have sodium hydroxide or hydrochloric acid, either. They might let you keep the water, just don’t tell them it’s a greenhouse gas if it evaporates.

zmdavid on April 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM

They’ll still have salt shakers on restaurant tables, right? Right??

ElRonaldo on April 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM

We need to focus a little more on the governor’s races in 2010 than we have been. heres one idea

We need every chess piece we can get to stop or at least slow down this runaway socialist train.

dnlchisholm on April 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM

This is easy: if you eat too much salt, just drink plenty of water.

Next problem, please.

ZenDraken on April 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM

THE TRUTH ABOUT SALT

Four years ago I developed a hearing problem. After being fitted with hearing aids I had a discussion with my doctor, one of only a few ear specialists in the Atlanta area.

I asked him why he prescribed pills which eliminated a portion of my salt intake. I was told that the body retains salt which is not only bad for the inner ear but also helps retain water in the body. This can lead to both stroke and heart attack.

I’m no expert but would like to see posts from other doc’s concerning the subject.

tazmebro

tazmebro on April 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM

If the FDA want’s to do something good, it should ban MSG. Too many people are allergic to it – like me.

Woody

woodcdi on April 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Tell your inorganic chemistry prof that he/she was right.

NaOH + HCl = H20 + NaCl. No Carbon (organic chem) offsets needed or desired.

NaCly dog on April 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Exothermic reaction or in need of a catalyst?

WordsMatter on April 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

OMG…this is really going to hinder my shots of Tequilla..drink, no lickey, suck….eeeeeewwwwwww ;-)

sicoit on April 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

We are a Taco Bell monopoly and a bunch of catchy commercial jingles away from being the society from Demolition Man.

Be well and have happy joy-joy feelings all through your day.

Pcoop on April 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Wow, these people really don’t get it, do they? Let’s just throw even more nanny-state red meat out there while 80% of the people don’t trust government to do anything right. You can’t make this stuff up!

Boy, are the hearings going to be fun starting next January.

rockmom on April 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM

First they came for our toilets (love the low-flow variety which require repeated flushings), now they are gunning for our nachos…………when will this madness end?

khacha on April 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM

This is truly, wholly sickening. I wish I could see the humor in it that the rest of you see, but all I see is tyranny. It will not end until something drastic happens, but I will purposely remain vague about that so I can avoid the ban hammer.

fossten on April 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Tell your inorganic chemistry prof that he/she was right.
NaOH + HCl = H20 + NaCl. No Carbon (organic chem) offsets needed or desired.
NaCly dog on April 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Oh come on that’s the easy way; I prefer the endothermic Chlorine gas into the bowl of liquid sodium.

And ummmm. Yea you’re right that’s inorganic, but dammit when I make uric acid we shall see who is right then Bwahahaha

LincolntheHun on April 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM

After adjusting for known CVD risk factors, such as smoking, diabetes and blood pressure

Since blood pressure is believed to be dependent upon sodium, this apears to be a meaningless argument.

burt on April 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Psst…..wanna buy a gram? of salt?

Bevan on April 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Wind Rider on April 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Lose the goofy accent, stop looking like Prez Hilton and become an American and I will be happy to discuss our laws. Otherwise you are just the Hobbit version of Dave Rywall.

LincolntheHun on April 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Then there are those of us w/ hereditary hypotension!

Without salt, we become horrible headache monsters before we faint. The nanny-state had better be careful – we go for smug, self-righteous people who are only trying to help first. (It’s amazing how much damage one can do before one becomes unconscious and some of us have seizures – that thrashing can really take down a few of those pesky nannies.)

Drusilla on April 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

I have Addison’s Disease as a service related issue, which only gave me 20% disability upon retirement from the Air Force. The experts in the Medical Hobby Shop are pushing me to subsist on a high sodium diet to keep my electrolytes in balance. I’m beginning to think the current regime is out to kill me along with the rest of the aging useless eaters that currently survive on the flat broke Socialist Security scam. I might have to start using the black market or undocumented grocer to score a couple of grams of high grade sea salt. The fascists in our bloated “Nanny State Government” just don’t know where to quit their incompetent bumbling and overreach.

Retired USAF on April 20, 2010 at 1:22 PM

http://myfoodmychoice.org/

DO something about it!

Animator Girl on April 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I am going to hoard salt. Obama’s circle is loaded with intentional retards and idiots. If Obama has a heart attack, the first thing they will do is try to start an IV and it contains salt water. Lactated ringers solution. We want these stupid people to stay awqy from medicine.
I suspect they do not know Gatorade contains salt?

seven on April 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Newsflash Nannystate: I have hypertension so bad it needs medication to keep it in check…and I’m not overweight, I DO exercise-a lot, and I don’t add extra salt to my eats.
My hypertension is totally due to…heredity.
I wonder when Big Gov. is going to start regulating that.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM

According the Ruth Bader Ginsburg, she’s surprised it hasn’t happened yet. Maybe with OboobieCare, it will.

Phil-351 on April 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Next up: Too much oxygen is harmful to you.

Which gov agency is going to control the amount of air now?

Sir Napsalot on April 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! [no, I'm not military but love their jargon.]

I think the next thing is we all have to wear something on our wrists to count the number of times we shake the salt shaker.

What happened to personal freedom anyway? I did not grow up in a nanny state, but it surely has been thrust upon me. Maybe I’ll have to move to — ACK! there’s no other English speaking country to move to that isn’t engaged in some form of statism. Just shoot me now if you’re going to take away my salt.

Tennman on April 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

What happened to personal freedom anyway?

That’s so 1776.

Beaglemom on April 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Fast (and not so fast) Food restaurants and snack makers nuke their foods with sodium to make the food more full of flavour. That’s clearly unhealthy.

AlexB on April 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM

No. For the vast majority of people it’s not unhealthy at all, as was already established on the thread before you made your clueless declaration! The facts don’t support your contention.

Dupes like you who believe things, regardless of facts, are the reason that government intervention like this happens. The government is trying to save us from ourselves by regulating things that DON’T NEED regulating.

JannyMae on April 20, 2010 at 1:49 PM

The spigot of fascism doesn’t need to be full on. A slow, steady drip will do. Drip, drip, drip.

Oh, and all you folks who need salt, take a pain pill and report to your local death panel.

SKYFOX on April 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM

So we are to believe that consuming copious amounts of salt is a life extender, a mini fountain of youth? Tomatoes and blueberries – out. Salt -in. Hard to believe.

MB4 on April 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM

No. We NEED salt, genius, for essential body processes and functions. Without it, we die.

The question about salt is “how much is too much?” That’s what happens when they publicize some of these ridiculous “studies that show X might be harmful.” The assumption is made that because consuming a lot of something may be bad, that we can conclude that consuming any of it is bad. That’s simply not the case.

JannyMae on April 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM

The unskilled unemployed Obama voters watch Oprah and her reruns all day. If they exercise, they would perspire and lose salt. If they drink water, they would be fine.
What do liberals do if they travel outside the US and there is no one to make their decisions for them?

seven on April 20, 2010 at 1:58 PM

Anyone remember the scene in Moscow on The Hudson when Robin Williams sees his first American supermarket?

OK, way wacko thought here, but salt is a flavor enhancer. It’s what makes food taste good. Even a chocolate cake needs salt to taste like chocolate cake.

I think the government wants us all to eat bland food to make us all even more depressed. I’m only half joking.

Jaynie59 on April 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM

They already do – it’s called Planned Parenthood

psrch on April 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Can’t wait to see all the waste from spoilage, and the hike in prices in food for having to restock shelves more frequently.

We will be forced to go from stocking up on food items, to having to shop more frequently for grocery items.

Higher cost.
More trips ie more gasoline needed
More packaging
Bland food

And talking about more government, a friend of mine posted this on FB. Anyone else see it? No Child Left Inside- more environmental education for kids. Wonder what THAT is all about- brainwash the kids on crap and tax? you betcha.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbf.org%2FPage.aspx%3Fpid%3D895&h=16779

journeyintothewhirlwind on April 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM

LincolntheHun on April 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM

So, shorter version – you got nothin.

Wind Rider on April 20, 2010 at 2:29 PM

clearbluesky on April 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Just a point about consistency. Or lack thereof. Completely lost on you, so nevermind.

Wind Rider on April 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

As I understand it, the distribution of the healthy level of salt intake for person’s in the population has a long tail toward the low side.
That is, most people are health eating significantly more than the average health amount, while some small number of people have to restrict their salt intake to much less than the average health amount or face hypertension.

Is this more of that “small cost for everyone, big benefit for a few” kind of thing that seems to be epidemic now a days?

Count to 10 on April 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Virginia Shanahan on April 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Where did you get that? Do you have a link? I’m interested.

Count to 10 on April 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM

I think the government wants us all to eat bland food to make us all even more depressed. I’m only half joking.

Jaynie59 on April 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM

There is evidence that reduced salt intake is a factor in depression.

ZenDraken on April 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM

High-salt diets may not increase the risk of death

On the other hand, it’s pretty tough to go higher than 100%.

People, get used to the fact: WE ARE ALL FREAKIN’ GOING TO DIE!

Exit question (to borrow a phrase): If given the choice, would you rather live 70 years in liberty or 80 years under the watchful eye of the nanny/fascist state?

ObjectionSustained on April 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

First they came for the salt, And I didn’t say anything;

Then they came for the mayo, and I didn’t say anything;

Then they came for the bacon, and I didn’t say anything;

Then they came for…

Inanemergencydial on April 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM

I cannot eat at restaurants period!

KFC should be called Kentucky Fried Sodium with over 3000mg in a meal with a crispy chicken breast and mashed potatoes. That is more than 3 times the recommended daily allowance.

The Rock on April 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM

You’re allowed around 2400mg of sodium per day give or take. You can still eat out at restaurants, but here is the key: you can’t do it every day. Have self control and you can treat yourself once or twice a week with bad food.

An interesting thing I’ve found is that the more you work out and eat right, the less bad food your body craves.

SirGawain on April 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Eventually you’ll need a prescription to buy salt so they can control the amount in your home… but your kids will be able to go down to the local 4/20 store and spark up and get shove a fist in a bowl of condoms. Welcome to Socialism.

Sultry Beauty on April 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM

zmdavid on April 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM

I will have an official license to be able to have access to chemicals since I am a chemistry teacher.
I can already see the black market potential…..
Mwhahahaha!

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM

An interesting thing I’ve found is that the more you work out and eat right, the less bad food your body craves.

SirGawain on April 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Oftentimes we crave certain things bcs the body ‘needs’ the substance we are craving.
This happens w/ cattle.
I still have no worries on a salt ban bcs not only can I make it in the lab, I know where to dig it from the Earth & I buy salt licks for the cows.
Perhaps there will be a salt run on the Great Salt Lake?

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Water kills thousands more people every year than salt. Should water be regulated? I think it should!!

jimmy2shoes on April 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM

After adjusting for known CVD risk factors, such as smoking, diabetes and blood pressure

If sodium leads to increased blood pressure (BP), then how do they adjust for BP without by that action killing any association with sodium?

My Dr, a blood pressure specialist, recomended a low sodium diet for me, and I’m not in the high blood pressure category.

Potassium chloride is a salt that taste the same, and yet your body needs more potassium than sodium.

AnotherOpinion on April 20, 2010 at 4:49 PM

The FDA should prevent mislabeling of chocolate covered frogs when the consumer has no idea what they are eating, not tell people ‘You can’t have it; chocolate covered frogs have no nutritional value”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 20, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Potassium chloride is a salt that taste the same, and yet your body needs more potassium than sodium.

AnotherOpinion on April 20, 2010 at 4:49 PM

KCl does not taste the same as NaCl. It’s got a more metallic taste & is not really that pleasant.
That is the stuff that the ‘salt substitue’ (fake salt) is made of.
You can get used to the taste, like getting used to the taste of diet pop, but it is still really icky-at least to me.

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Water kills thousands more people every year than salt. Should water be regulated? I think it should!!

jimmy2shoes on April 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM

LOL!
I give my students a little exercise on this-the banning of dihydrogen monoxide. I list the pros & cons of this chemical & a large majority of them want to ban it.
When I tell them the chemical they want to ban is water, they feel really stupid.

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 4:58 PM

The next argument will be (too much) alcohol is bad for you, too.

The exact amount of being ‘too much’ is yet to be determined by some faceless gobmint officials.

Sir Napsalot on April 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM

I think people should be more concerned with processed sugars & carbs, i.e. white flour products, sugared foods, etc..
But being fat is a symptom of a richer society.
When people have more $$ they have more resources for food.
I have to say that a lot of processed food is so gross I never eat it.
But there is some stuff that is way too yummy & I will eat it in small amounts, like chips.
I mean, what are they going to do about the sodium levels in CHEESE for God’s sake.
Cheese is naturally salty & some cheeses are worse than others.
Food manufacturers will concentrate even more & more jobs will be lost if this insanity continues.

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Sir Napsalot on April 20, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Well what a novel idea.
Let’s have the govt ban alcohol.
Oh wait…

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:02 PM

WordsMatter on April 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Slightly exothermic (as are all acid/base reactions), happens spontaneously.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 4:58 PM

LOL. Gotta love Chemistry.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:04 PM

I’m pretty sure I can’t find the words “power to regulate salt” anywhere in the constitution.

Vashta.Nerada on April 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM

KFC should be called Kentucky Fried Sodium with over 3000mg in a meal with a crispy chicken breast and mashed potatoes. That is more than 3 times the recommended daily allowance.

The Rock on April 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Are those recommendations for someone sitting on their ass or for someone who exercises strenuously several times a week?

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM

O.k. so everybody who was advocating for the legalization of Marijuana can now explain to me:

1) Why this development with salt is good.
2) If the gov’t is doing this to salt because it could raise your blood pressure, what will it do to Marijuana which involves inhaling smoke containing carcinogens.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Vashta.Nerada on April 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Come to think of it, I can’t find a justification for the FDA in the constitution, either.

Vashta.Nerada on April 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM

Well, Obama has the slug vote.

Sharke on April 20, 2010 at 5:12 PM

O.k. so everybody who was advocating for the legalization of Marijuana can now explain to me:

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM

The federal government will have to spend billions on enforcement of salt laws and there will be gangs wars over Doritos turf. No-knock raids so people don’t flush their home made pretzels. You will have to get a permit to buy and store road salt. People will close their blinds and install salt-water evaporation apparatus, and the feds will use heat cameras to find them.

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Slightly exothermic (as are all acid/base reactions), happens spontaneously.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Guess we’ll have to mix some liquid Drano & muriatic acid!

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

I can see it.
I thought it crazy that anyone could say that vacation was a human right, but that’s happened already in Europe.
America is slow to adapt the lunacy of Europe, but we have embraced so much of their insanity so far, I can definitely see Congress trying to ban salt.
It is no more lunatic to try & ban CO2.

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:19 PM

Well, Obama has the slug vote.

Sharke on April 20, 2010 at 5:12 PM

LMAO!

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:19 PM

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

KFC chicken skin will be the newest commodity in that case.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Badger40 on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

No, let’s go all out with 12M NaOH and 12 M HCL. just don’t spill it on yourself. That’ll leave a mark.

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM

BYOS: Bring Your Own Shaker

Tzetzes on April 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM

If and when the consumers want low-salt products (there already are some) there will be low-salt products. The government should stay out of the way.

docdave on April 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM

You forgot to mention sea water. How’ll that be regulated?

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:22 PM

You forgot to mention sea water. How’ll that be regulated?

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:22 PM

That’s easy. With SEIU members. Lots of ‘em.

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM

pedestrian on April 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM

LOL

Rightwingguy on April 20, 2010 at 5:26 PM

I thought this administration hated the rich, not the poor. Maybe I missed something. Do the rich have severely limited food budgets that would make well preserved (and thus less costly) food a benefit? Or is the goal to punish the poor now?

And your high blood pressure and hypertension? Unless you’re in the minority who is significantly affected by salt; you’re problem is more likely to be weight related.

Hey, that gives me two new ideas. One, if we’re willing to ban something because a minority has an adverse reaction we need to ban peanuts, well all nuts really, and wheat, shellfish, fish, eggs, and any other possible food allergen.

Second, since weight is more problematic, enjoy your new government mandated dietary allowance with your government mandated exercise regimen.

Hope you like the taste of Government sanctioned and provided nutri-paste… if not, who cares that’s all you get to eat regardless. Choices are for other countries, not Americans. We’re supposed to be pressed under the heel of our oppressive government just like the founding fathers intended.

You’ll be dreaming about the food that you’ll now only see at chow lines in old prison movies.

The general goal of reducing government intervention is fine, but in this particular case it’s a good idea.

AlexB on April 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM

You especially can enjoy your nutri-paste. The government banning something because it affects a minority adversely is insane. If you want to head down that road; explain why this is good; but my two examples of applying it won’t happen?

Peanuts don’t affect people worse than salt (for those affected)?

Being overweight doesn’t cause health issues?

If the government is supposed to get involved in food choices to help a minority who have food reactions; and to remove possible health issues; why wouldn’t this lead to a one-size-fits-all diet regimen created/approved/sanctioned by the government and imposed on everyone?

Since imposing the government on everyone to remove salt is good; why is expanding it bad?

gekkobear on April 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Pelosi had heard her detractors saying that looking at her for any period of time would turn a person into a pillar of salt. She immediately alerted the FDA to punish her detractors.

Weren’t Roman soldiers paid in salt (“sal,” from which we get the word salary)? Will only the rich be able to afford salt in this brave new world?

onlineanalyst on April 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM

I had a really cool dream one night where I was a free man.

But then I woke up and realized that it could only have been a dream because I was an American.

Fatal on April 20, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Next up for our new ObamaNanny?

Size of toilet sheets on your rolls.

Fiber content upped in everything .

Buying and building homes in skin cancer areas like Florida and the South.

Stress relief and daily massage therapy for inner city youths.

Travel restrictions for areas with high crime?

Mandatory “nutrition camps” for our youth during the Summers?

Your guess? ____________________________

PappyD61 on April 20, 2010 at 5:53 PM

I am going to design a new salt shaker and sell it on the web. Concealed carry salt shaker. Hide it in the shirt cuff and you can pass it over the food undetected. If it was about health, our dear Resident Obama would stop smoking. I just think we have a few too many people that didn’t have a clue that voted in these radicals and the Obama regime. When they are done, it will be good riddance.

seven on April 20, 2010 at 6:01 PM

So when people have thyroid issues due to lack of iodine, will Obamacare cover that?

englishqueen01 on April 20, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Of course, certain people do need to watch their sodium like a hawk in order to keep their kidney function intact.

Right, Ed?

What’s interesting about this issue is the ease with which it can be solved by those who really desire that nice salty flavor — keep the saltshaker nearby. That’s what I’ve had to do to deal with a sodium diet which is, frankly, too low for me.

After all, you can put salt into food, but it’s hard to take it out.

unclesmrgol on April 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM

And, before you know it, they’ll be putting salt peter in our food.
“Help; I’ve fallen down, and I can’t get up!”

Cybergeezer on April 20, 2010 at 6:52 PM

When they criminalize salt, only criminals will have tasty food.

Soon we shall all be criminals.

ajacksonian on April 20, 2010 at 7:08 PM

… Exit question (to borrow a phrase): If given the choice, would you rather live 70 years in liberty or 80 years under the watchful eye of the nanny/fascist state?

ObjectionSustained on April 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Let’s see, 70 years of freedom with a good shot at happiness vs. 80 years of servitude with a good shot at – er – servitude ….

Woody

woodcdi on April 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Let’s see, I’m a Truman baby, I put killer salt on EVERYTHING. My BP is 118 over 72. SAVE ME!

Limerick on April 20, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Next up, fungus causing socks!

Limerick on April 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Next up for our new ObamaNanny?

Your guess? ____________________________

PappyD61 on April 20, 2010 at 5:53 PM

No guess needed….everything is on the table. How did we get to this insane, bizarro-world place? Where did all the crazy people come from? I don’t recognize my Country anymore.

We’re probably going to need a new one, unless a miracle happens.

Who is John Galt on April 20, 2010 at 7:59 PM

The next Uncle Sugar super project…..No-Salt Lake City!

Limerick on April 20, 2010 at 8:02 PM

I have high blood pressure, and am overweight. I should not be having salt. However, I will NOT abdicate my responsibility to myself to the government. First salt then who knows what else? Besides which, low sodium versions of many foods already exist (eg: low/no sodium potato chips). The abdication of personal responsibility is seductive to many and it will ultimately end the country as we know it, unless we stop it.

SG1_Conservative on April 20, 2010 at 8:28 PM

America you will get your nanny state-nice job!/

CWforFreedom on April 20, 2010 at 8:39 PM

They’re regulating the precious salt on my tea bagging balls now? This lunacy has to stop!!!

Denverslim on April 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM

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