Joe Klein: Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are guilty of borderline sedition

posted at 7:15 pm on April 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

After watching this twice, I’m inclined to call it one of the most perfect bits of self-parody that I’ve ever seen. The smugness, the laziness of the analysis — this would qualify as mindless, paint-by-numbers received wisdom even on a lefty blog — and of course the hypocrisy, from Heilemann moronically barking about the loaded meaning of a word he himself has used numerous times to Klein actually stooping to use a charge as loathed by free-speech advocates as sedition to indict Beck and Palin. This one’s got it all. Had Beck or Palin dropped the S-bomb on some lefty populist, it would be a five-alarm, all-hands-on-deck, left-wing media furor. Yet here’s Joe Klein, tossing it out almost playfully — and not for the first time — on Tingles’s weekly middlebrow talking points showcase, and no one bats an eye. What does ego look like when it’s unchecked by even the slightest shred of self-awareness? You’re about to find out. Click the image to watch.

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They are getting ready to criminalize our free speech to stomp out our dissent.

NTWR on April 19, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Mike Savage has already been the victim of that dissent and knows what he is talking about.

fourdeucer on April 19, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Go ahead, chickensh*t.

CHARGE THEM. Make a ruckus about it.

If you don’t, you’re standing by and letting sedition happen without speaking truth to power.

If he’s really serious – and not just a flame-baiting poseur – he’ll go to the Obama DoJ and raise hell until they file charges.

Let’s go, Joe. Put up or shut up.

Good Lt on April 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM

As a former resident of Leftyland, I recognize all the symptoms the of “makebelieveitis” that is chronic and widespread amoung the liberal elite.

Klein, Tingles & the rest are so self-referentially smitten that they really don’t have a clue.

In Leftyland wishing makes happy things so and ignoring unhappy things makes them go away.

If Palin, Beck, Rush and the Tea Party become too darn inconvenient, then hey, let’s all make a pact among ourselves to place the feared & the loathed in the sedition corner.

Yeah, that’s the ticket! (We’re so smart that way!)

Sad, really.

Bruno Strozek on April 19, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Kleins ridiculous sedition statement is just more of the same liberal attempts to demonize conservatives. I guess now that their attempts to label conservatives rascist is wearing a bit thin, they have to invent some other slanderous label. Wonder what they’ll try next.

docdave on April 19, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I’m a seditionist , and I’m okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I pay my taxes. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavat’ry.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin’
And have buttered scones for tea.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Well yeah, but is it “sedition-sedition”?

PackerBronco on April 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM

These left Louies are just being ridiculous!

MCGIRV on April 19, 2010 at 8:57 PM

Being anti-Communist is “sedition” in their (Communists’) minds.

To them, the only real Americans are ashamed of America, hate America and view the government as the means of forming a Socialist society as part of a neo-Internationale and the Constitution is on one hand an annoyance and on the other a weapon.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 19, 2010 at 8:57 PM

These Lefty Louies are just being ridiculous!

MCGIRV on April 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM

The Obama Regime has brought this country to ruin!

Now bring on the court case. I dare you!

petunia on April 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Klein, Matthews, O’Donnell, Shuster, Olbermann, Maddow, and all the other whiny babies over at MSNBC were frothing at the mouth over Bush during his entire eight years in office. They called him every name in the book and accused him of every federal crime under the sun.

So just STFU you moronic cackling hypocrites.

fogw on April 19, 2010 at 9:00 PM

“Tingles’s weekly middlebrow talking points showcase”

That is actually a perfect description of The Chris Matthews Show. It’s almost like a talking point contest at times, because some of the panelists get so fidgety and anxious that they end up jumping in to finish the talking point before the person speaking can even get it out. :P

Go RBNY on April 19, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Klein, you’re exposing yourself to being a liberal OBOT water-boy. I suggest you get back under your rock, and never come out again…

This is the face of sedition:
http://i40.tinypic.com/14alx88.jpg

byteshredder on April 19, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Kleins ridiculous sedition statement is just more of the same liberal attempts to demonize conservatives. I guess now that their attempts to label conservatives rascist is wearing a bit thin, they have to invent some other slanderous label. Wonder what they’ll try next.

docdave on April 19, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Yeah but unlike the racist label, I’m kinda liking this one.

I am, you all are, seditionists!

I’m liking it better all the time. Speak sedition to power! It is our partriotic duty!

This country was born in sedition. It has a long and proud tradition.

petunia on April 19, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Maybe the Obozo Administration will now seek to indoctrinate (whoops, I mean “educate”) the little kiddies about what the new, expanded definition of sedition is all about.

Perhaps he can have someone create a new “Schoolhouse Rock” lesson. I can see it now:

Sedition Edition, what’s your mission?
Hooking up words, and torches and pitchforks . . . .

OneVision on April 19, 2010 at 9:03 PM

It’s almost like a talking point contest at times, because some of the panelists get so fidgety and anxious that they end up jumping in to finish the talking point before the person speaking can even get it out. :P

Go RBNY on April 19, 2010 at 9:01 PM

No! No! That’s called independent thought! And intelligent analysis. You just don’t’ recognize it because you didn’t go to the re-education camp yet.

petunia on April 19, 2010 at 9:05 PM

joe klein reminds me of a sniveling twitching rat. just sayin.

sbvft contributor on April 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM

“ego … unchecked by even the slightest shred of self-awareness”

I’m glad he’s on my side. You are on my side, aren’t you AP? Big A?

AP

Jaibones on April 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Sounds like Mr Klein is advocating for a Hugo Chavez style Socialist Regime, where it is a crime to publicly criticize the government and the President. But then again this is exactly the sort of commentary you would expect to hear from the National Socialists over at MSNBC.

Hellrider on April 19, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Joe Klein = Sniveling Pantywaste

D2Boston on April 19, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Joe Klein is “borderline intelligent moronic”!

belad on April 19, 2010 at 9:31 PM

These guys should be called on the table for saying this stuff. President Clinton and all these guys are the ones pushing the antagonism. I’m sorry but it’s not Tea Partiers upset with this discussion. We’re used to this kind of thing. Whose getting upset are Leftist Socialists who AREN’T used to seeing this many people protest against them. They don’t know what to do with themselves. It’s why SEIU thinks it needs to start the Labor Party and go out a protest on the defensive. It’s THOSE guys you need to watch out for really. Sadly enough, if one of those SEIU guys go postal leave it to the MSM to try to come up with some kind of connection with Tea Partiers and Republicans.

Sultry Beauty on April 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM

OK smartypants, what illegal act have they committed? Since sedition is an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government, what illegal action have they committed?

And before you claim they are inciting others, bear in mind that this country was founded on free political speach, so just stating that government is too big doesn’t qualify – but you knew that already.

jackal40 on April 19, 2010 at 9:39 PM

What does ego look like when it’s unchecked by even the slightest shred of self-awareness?

I’ll take “Barack Obama” for $500, Allah.

VibrioCocci on April 19, 2010 at 9:41 PM

If Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are guilty of sedition, 99% of Americans have been guilty of sedition at some point.

jimmy2shoes on April 19, 2010 at 9:57 PM

In a casual converstion with a stranger in a waiting room on Saturday, where GB was on the TV, this stranger pipes up and calls GB seditious. He threw out some hate for Palin, wanted the rich to pay more taxes, claimed he always voted Democrat, was for government healthcare, thought the Iraq war was illegal and a couple of other things unprompted. He was an average Joe as far as I know, but he had a message. He barely listened to my rebuttal that freedom of speech was for speech he disagreed with. Then he threw out that he though Ron Paul had some good ideas.

Odd.

AnotherOpinion on April 19, 2010 at 9:59 PM

JOE KLEIN………..NAPKIN BOY!!

PappyD61 on April 19, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Like I said the first time this story came up (maybe in headlines?)…did he feel this way re: sedition when the NYT was printing in great detail our strategies in tracking terrorists via cell phone use and bank accounts?

DrAllecon on April 20, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Sedition for thee but not for me.

Speakup on April 20, 2010 at 12:10 AM

Gee, if Sarah is “stupid” and “moronic” for writing notes on her hand but Joe Klein has to use a napkin for the same purpose now what would he be….besides being able to blow his nose….

Vntnrse on April 20, 2010 at 2:24 AM

I was talking to a liberal attorney who has had years of laughing at conservatives while they spouted half baked legal opinions on the topics of the day.

Sad for him, comments like this have been all too common lately from the left. I haven’t heard it, but he claims that MSNBC is all but sending memos to the Department of Justice on all the treasonous talk around the country.

He is ashamed.

I am comcerned that before the 2012 election season gets too far underway, we shall see the Greek columns replaced with gilted furniture and ermine tobes and our leader announce “Je suis l’état!”. And these asses will have little problem with it.

To you, my brothers and sisters who can still see and hear, I will say that He haa already gotten away with a comment redolent of Caligula with skies parting and seas receeding (or whatever) with nary a wimper from the hardscrabble Yankees in the Ivy League.

Didn’t the Doobie Brothers have a line in a song about “a wise man has the power”..

L’amour fait des imbéciles d’entre tous.

IlikedAUH2O on April 20, 2010 at 3:30 AM

joe klein reminds me of a sniveling twitching rat. just sayin.

sbvft contributor on April 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM

That’s funny, I see a furtive, scuttling troll…

ya2daup on April 20, 2010 at 5:47 AM

Wow, Joe “did a little research” he took his crayon and a napkin and still came to a faulty conclusion. The man is a genious, for a lib.

Wills on April 20, 2010 at 7:24 AM

Klein confuses doodling with research so it’s no wonder his conclusions are faulty as well as idiotic.

zoyclem on April 20, 2010 at 7:44 AM

Take a look at this man, Joe Klein. This is what a Communist looks like. This is a scumbag.

afotia on April 20, 2010 at 8:14 AM

HEY JOE. PUT THIS ON YOUR NAPKIN, ROLL IT UP, PUT IT WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE:

The term DOUBLE STANDARD, coined in 1912,[1] refers to any set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another, typically without a good reason for having said difference.[2] A double standard may take the form of an instance in which certain applications (often of a word or phrase) are perceived as acceptable to be used by one group of people, but are considered unacceptable—taboo—when used by another group.

A double standard, thus, can be described as a sort of biased, morally unfair suspension (toward a certain group) of the principle that all are equal in their freedoms. Such double standards are seen as unjustified because they violate a basic maxim of modern legal jurisprudence: that all parties should stand equal before the law. Double standards also violate the principle of justice known as impartiality, which is based on the assumption that the same standards should be applied to all people, without regard to subjective bias or favoritism based on social class, rank, ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation or other distinction. A double standard violates this principle by holding different people accountable according to different standards. The proverb “life is not fair” is often invoked in order to mollify concerns over double standards.

There is a distinction to be made between double standards and hypocrisy, which implies the stated or presumed acceptance of a single standard a person claims to hold himself or herself accountable to, but which, in practice, may be disregarded.

stenwin77 on April 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Hey, Joe, didn’t you get the memo, you’re supposed to make notes on you hand not a napkin.

Kissmygrits on April 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Why don’t libbies just shut the hell up and take some action on all this violence and “hate talking” they are crying about?

I mean seriously – it’s getting old listening to these old women crab on about violence that isn’t happening.

News flash you little sissy libbies – we have laws in this country – and you should know about them since you prolly wrote half of them. We got legislation on Hate, Civil Rights, Telecommunications, etc.

If Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin have broken a law then PUT THEM IN JAIL!

We double dawg dare you!

Oh … you haven’t written a law yet to prevent their free speech? Well, quit crying and WRITE ONE!

We double dawg dare you!

Put your money where you mouths are. You control the whole government – if you got a problem, you can ram it down our throats.

We double dawg dare you!

HondaV65 on April 20, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Someone take that cocktail napkin away from joe and give him a feminine napkin – I think that’s what he really needs.

HondaV65 on April 20, 2010 at 9:31 AM

It’s amazing that this guy passes as a journalist.

nor on April 20, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Klein is guilty of definite slander.

perries on April 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM

The orchestrated (though clumsily) attempt to label dissent: “SEDITION!” will eventually lead to Obama needing to enforce a “calming period”…for the “common good”.

Depend upon it.

Do NOT sit down, and do NOT shut up. Get more people to stand up, and get their voices added. The alternative is indeed tyranny.

Justrand on April 20, 2010 at 9:56 AM

That’s okay, Klein is guilty of borderline stupidity.

Mr. Joe on April 20, 2010 at 10:04 AM

He has insinuated that pro-Israel Americans are disloyal, hasn’t he, so it isn’t much of a stretch to accuse limited-government types of quasi-insurrectionary outside agitation. I’m guessing he bad-mouthed Hummers somewhere along the line but Ed and Allah missed it when they should have been raising red flags.

Anyway, when Palin becomes dictator I believe Todd should take away Joe’s napkin and put him on a STRICT weight control REGIME.

Seth Halpern on April 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM

I know Chris Matthews is stupid, but is he really so stupid that he can’t remember the THOUSANDS of times he said “Bush Regime”?

Speedwagon82 on April 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Funny,

The names of the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, or William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are never mentioned in these “honest discussions” on terrorism and sedition,

isn’t it.

franksalterego on April 20, 2010 at 10:14 AM

The names of the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, or William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are never mentioned in these “honest discussions” on terrorism and sedition,

isn’t it.

franksalterego on April 20, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Neither is Obama.

darwin on April 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Never fails.
After years of outrageous outrage over “Don’t question my patriotism” during the Bush years where the President and nation were slandered in a time of intense warfare. Whenever I give these guys the benefit of the doubt and expect them NOT to be rank hyprocrites, it always come back and bites.

RobCon on April 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Funny,

when Lefties “protest” it, more times than not, turns into a war-zone, with broken windows, tear gas, and riot police,

isn’t it.

franksalterego on April 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/florida-man-arrested-for-threatening-to-kill-gop-rep-brown-waite/

The only real violence I have seen to date is coming from the Progressive’s…

Keemo on April 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM

“And as far as I can see, in terms of the policies that Obama has implemented, there’s nothing.”

Say what?

Count to 10 on April 20, 2010 at 10:55 AM

And these asses will have little no problem with it.

FIFY

Eren on April 20, 2010 at 11:24 AM

This is exactly why I abandoned liberalism. After a lifetime of books/music/films painting the right as the greedy, power mad, oppressors I came to realize that the very lefties who make those charges are, in reality, those who would oppress. Make no mistake, these people would cheer American gulags for disidents.

mugged on April 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM

dissidents, even.

mugged on April 20, 2010 at 11:42 AM

The orchestrated (though clumsily) attempt to label dissent: “SEDITION!” will eventually lead to Obama needing to enforce a “calming period”…for the “common good”.

Depend upon it.

Do NOT sit down, and do NOT shut up. Get more people to stand up, and get their voices added. The alternative is indeed tyranny.

Justrand on April 20, 2010 at 9:56 AM

The behavior of the Left since Obama took office has intrigued me. They have been acting as if they didn’t need to worry about the 2010 elections. I fear that some “emergency” of sufficient magnitude as to require the midterm elections to be “temporarily” postponed has been scheduled. Martial law? The latest spate of “sedition” and “Oklahoma City” mimes doesn’t make me feel more secure.

Venusian Visitor on April 20, 2010 at 2:11 PM

Isn’t this guy being indicted for borderline sanity?

Cybergeezer on April 20, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

This buffoon wrote a book about her husband which became the movie starring John Travolta

PS: Sorry about the bleeding ears.

dthorny on April 20, 2010 at 8:44 PM

The behavior of the Left since Obama took office has intrigued me. They have been acting as if they didn’t need to worry about the 2010 elections. I fear that some “emergency” of sufficient magnitude as to require the midterm elections to be “temporarily” postponed has been scheduled. Martial law? The latest spate of “sedition” and “Oklahoma City” mimes doesn’t make me feel more secure.

Venusian Visitor on April 20, 2010 at 2:11 PM

If that is what they think, they’ve got another thing comin’.

Cylor on April 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM

The Founding Fathers were all about sedition according to the British.

More sedition, if you please. And stop talking to me like I am an idiot, Klein. You got your roles switched. Check your script. You play the idiot. Yeah, you did anyway.

Nice napkin by the way. Brilliant. Now stick that napkin up your arse and give it some patina.

Sherman1864 on April 21, 2010 at 6:22 PM

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