Dems fall into their own Pay-Go trap

posted at 12:55 pm on April 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier this year, Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats celebrated the signing of their new pay-go rules that require Congress to explicitly fund any new legislation.  Since then, they have gone 0-3 in complying with their own legislation, choosing to extend unemployment benefits through borrowing rather than redirect already-allocated funds for the purpose.  Politico reports that the Democrats have finally run out of rope on Pay-Go:

The short-term unemployment benefits bill, which was headed toward final passage in the House on Thursday night, also includes the COBRA health program and a Medicare reimbursement adjustment known as the “doc fix.” The bill bypassed pay-as-you-go rules because it was designated as a temporary “emergency” spending plan.

But now Democrats are stuck.

They have been unable to move a longer-term one-year extension of these programs, passed earlier this session, because they already blew the revenues they had expected to use for this bill. Senate and House Democrats must now find a politically acceptable way to pay for the bill.

The tax money for the original bill was a special tax credit known as “black liquor” on biofuels, but Democrats moved those funds to help pay for the health care reform bill.

One Senate Republican says the Democrats blew it by allocating that $24 billion tax provision to the health care bill because now they have no long-term solution to extending unemployment benefits for jobless Americans. And the multibillion-dollar “doc fix” on Medicare reimbursement cuts remains a long-term problem.

“Frankly it was fiscally imprudent … to have taken those offsets that basically were agreed upon in the Senate, had been passed in the Senate, had been supported on a bipartisan basis and then were removed and used for health care reform in order to have more spending in that legislation,” said Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine). “We had an agreement, and they should have made that sacrosanct in that legislation.”

Sacrosanct? That’s actually a good word, considering the sanctimonious posturing that accompanied Pay-Go’s passage last February. The party running Congress has given us two straight years of trillion-dollar-plus deficit spending, when they could have applied Pay-Go through normal fiscal discipline all on their own.  Instead, both before and after its passage, Democrats spent imaginary money in order to reinforce real power.

Now, as Politico points out, the road gets rougher.  Not only do Democrats have to deal with their own push to create more permanent long-term jobless benefits, but they also have a budget coming up.  They can’t spend $3.8 trillion on $2.4 trillion in revenues any longer, not with their Pay-Go rule standing in the way.  They have three choices: cut spending to match revenues, raise taxes to match spending, or waive Pay-Go yet again.

We can skip the first option, because Democrats won’t cut spending after running it up the last three budget cycles.  If they raise taxes, they’ll have to do it when they pass the budget — which is due at the end of September, just before the midterms.  How would Democrats do in the election if they passed a $1.3 trillion tax hike?  Most likely, they’ll simply waive Pay-Go, which will give Republicans a huge rhetorical club with which to beat incumbents in the midterms, but won’t be as politically suicidal as massive tax hikes.

Or — and this is the most likely outcome — Democrats won’t pass a budget at all.  They’ll issue continuing resolutions to keep funding the government at the same rate as FY2010 and wait until after the midterms to pass massive tax increases or waive Pay-Go.  Republicans should prepare themselves for this tactic, and remind voters that a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President have no excuses whatsoever to fail to pass a budget on time.

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If you look away
We will steal

blatantblue on April 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM

I predict that they will waive pay-go and raise taxes.

milwife88 on April 16, 2010 at 1:00 PM

raped-as-we-go?

moonbatkiller on April 16, 2010 at 1:01 PM

QUESTION:

will the republicans capitalize on this kinda stuff in november via advertising?

cause i can tell you about 98% of america has never heard of the dems paygo plan, or their refusal to follow it

im scared, really scared, because this is a once in a lifetime moment to stop progressivist socialism FOREVER…. and we are relying on the advertising arm of the rnc?

if its individual repubicans, im sure they’ll do fine (see christie, scott brown, mcdonnell ‘optimist’ ads)

but i wish the rnc would run ads on issues like this… .something like VOICEOVER: “remember when the democrats promised never to pass a bill without telling us what will pay for it? and then the republicans held up the unemployment bill?”
*cue clip of pelosi saying gop is heartless* VOICEOVER: “not exactly. there was no way to pay for that bill, but the dems passed it anyway. no way to pay for bill X, but the dems passed it anyway, no way to pay for bill Y, but the dems passed it anyway, no way to pay for….”
*fade out to a picture of nancy laughing holding the mega-gavel*

there you go. 15 seconds and i came up with a better general issue ad than the rnc has in a decade.

and that makes me shiver…

battleoflepanto1571 on April 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I predict a “Hey look, a squirrel” strategy.

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Can Republicans filibuster a continuing resolution? Wouldn’t that would force the government to shut down? Sweet.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 16, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Definitely Bush’s fault.

ctmom on April 16, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Capitol Hill = Augean Stables

OhioCoastie on April 16, 2010 at 1:05 PM

It’s already certain that they won’t pass a budget this year. It’ll be the 4th time in 7 years that a budget hasn’t been passed. And the 5th time in the last 60 years that one hasn’t been passed. I think they are coming to grips with the fact that it’s simply unmanageable and they just won’t admit it publicly. They know they have to cut down on the entitlements, but their lord/serf mentality simply won’t let them do it.

lorien1973 on April 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Democrats won’t pass a budget at all

they didn’t pass a budget in W’s last term, so I can see them doing it yet again…

cmsinaz on April 16, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Dems fall into their own Pay-Go trap

the GOP needs to pound on this 24/7 til the elections…

cmsinaz on April 16, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Progressives never plan ahead.

IlikedAUH2O on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Couldn’t they just pull some of the unspent porkulous money? Keeping as many on the dole as possible is the only way they’ll keep any seats at all this November, which makes it an “economic emergency”.

Rebar on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

What goes unseen is the massive inefficiences and problems that go along with not passing a budget, on how our government operates, including paying private businesses on time and as agreed.

It’s incredibly irresponsible for the Democrats to not produce a budget on time when the have a huge majority in Congress and they have the White House.

If we had an actual MSM, the GOP wouldn’t have to beat them over the head with this, the MSM would be doing it.

And the MSM believes in government. If so, how can they not realize how damaging this is to government operations?

NoDonkey on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

lorien1973 on April 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Paul Ryan would add this tidbit to your comment:

Worse, recent press reports have indicated that the House of Representatives may not consider a budget resolution this year. If true, this would be the first time since the passage of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 that the House would fail to craft a budget.

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I wondered why the “black liquor” thing was in the health care bill. I work on bio fuel stuff occasionally and that will affect a lot of projects already in the works.

Good reporting, Ed.

NTWR on April 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Pay-go under the bus in 5… 4… 3…

Inkblots on April 16, 2010 at 1:14 PM

I predict blood on the streets. Literally.

The Democrats, once they lose control of the House in November, will use their lame duck status to cash out, pay off supporters who will be instrumental to their eventual return (yes, they will be back) to power, deal some temporary political scores against entities that gave them grief, and shred incriminating documentation (both hard copy and electronic) of all of their back dealing during the last three cycles in which they were the majority party.

Our side of the aisle will have to watch out for astro-turfers looking to make trouble for all of the incoming conservatives in one form or another. It is a mad, mad world.

itzWicks on April 16, 2010 at 1:14 PM

I personally think that the GOP needs to focus on how the HCR really isn’t helping anyone today.

I believe that people wanted reform.

I believe that people are disgusted by the DC notions about reform.

And I think that’s the key to being elected.

It’s not all the talk about “constituional rights,” yadda.

It’s about real butter and bread issues.

Offer a real solution.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:14 PM

They are going to double down. They will increase the budget and then paint Republicans as trying to “cut” the budgets of education, unemployment, etc. All the hot-button areas will be torched.

Then, they will accuse Republicans of trying to shut down the government over the budget.

ButterflyDragon on April 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM

It’s almost as if PayGo was a stunt! Of course, the Dims would never do that.

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:16 PM

I insist. The message that has come through to me, anyway, are the GOP who acknowledge that pre-existing conditions and purging after paying for years into your particular plan….

NEEDS attention.

End of story.

Offer people a plan that addresses those issues, in a big way.

Win votes.

Keep talking about “taking away our freedoms,” you’ll lose most independents.

Come on, people.

Not everyone is paranoid about this.

Most of us are watching the real policies and real votes.

We’re just not into ideology stuff.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

They’ll issue continuing resolutions to keep funding the government at the same rate as FY2010 and wait until after the midterms to pass massive tax increases or waive Pay-Go.

What a weak, bandaid approach to governance–this is crap, this country is being run by political motivations primarily, nevermind what is good or bad for “the country” it’s only what’s good or bad for Democrats—and right now, the good thing for Democrats is to continue deficit spending and avoiding inevitable realistic consequences that await them by avoiding tough decisions on spending.

NOOOO—VEMBER!

ted c on April 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM

They are going to double down. They will increase the budget and then paint Republicans as trying to “cut” the budgets of education, unemployment, etc. All the hot-button areas will be torched.

Then, they will accuse Republicans of trying to shut down the government over the budget.

ButterflyDragon on April 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM

I agree. That’s really all they know and all they can “go to.”

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Oh well, our own history is truly a patchwork of populism and wisdom.

Buckle up.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Democrats: like a hammer without a handle…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Democrats: like a hammer without a handle…

PatriotRider on April 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I’d say that description would fit the Republicans better at this point, as previous posters have lamented. The Dems are more like a blind man in control of a wrecking ball.

Dark-Star on April 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Progressives never plan ahead.

IlikedAUH2O on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Neither does the far right.

They are both alike….flip sides of the same coin.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM

NOOOO—VEMBER!

ted c on April 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Gave me an idea:

The Party of No…vember

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Question:

Were things this bad when Clinton was in office? Were things this bad when ANYONE was in office?

Key West Reader on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

NOOOO—VEMBER!

ted c on April 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Gave me an idea:

The Party of No…vember

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Can I steal that sign? Please?

Key West Reader on April 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I insist. The message that has come through to me, anyway, are the GOP who acknowledge that pre-existing conditions and purging after paying for years into your particular plan….

NEEDS attention.

End of story.

Offer people a plan that addresses those issues, in a big way.
Win votes.

Keep talking about “taking away our freedoms,” you’ll lose most independents.

Come on, people.

Not everyone is paranoid about this.

Most of us are watching the real policies and real votes.

We’re just not into ideology stuff.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

The GOP did just that (several times) and it wasn’t even considered.

And if you think Independents are concerned about their freedoms too, you are delusional.

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM

If you look away
We will steal

blatantblue on April 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Hell, they steal right in front of us, no need to look away

PJ Emeritus on April 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Looks like this is going to underestimate the problem.

iurockhead on April 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM

The Party of No…vember

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

+1

cmsinaz on April 16, 2010 at 1:29 PM

And if you think Independents are concerned about their freedoms too, you are delusional.

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM

should have read aren’t

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Looks like this is going to underestimate the problem.

iurockhead on April 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM

you’ll never see that on the msm….it will always be W’s fault in their eyes, irregardless of the fact that the (D)s controlled congress for the last 2 years of W’s term and dear leader was a little weasley senator

cmsinaz on April 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Were things this bad when Clinton was in office? Were things this bad when ANYONE was in office?

Key West Reader on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

I remember Carter, things seem worse today, except for the lines at the gas stations. Which can still happen, if Iran nukes Israel forget about the Persian Gulf oil for years, decades.

Rebar on April 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Offer a real solution.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:14 PM

We do, my California cousin, but the Dem Committee Chairmen never let it come to a vote… Amendments are proferred but voted down by party line…

Looking forward to NO-O-O-O-O-vember!!

Khun Joe on April 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Can I steal that sign? Please?

Key West Reader on April 16, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Sure…just send me a postcard if it catches on.

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Rules are for the little people; rules don’t apply to democrats because they are simply superior people.

Skandia Recluse on April 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM

I remember Carter, things seem worse today, except for the lines at the gas stations. Which can still happen, if Iran nukes Israel forget about the Persian Gulf oil for years, decades.

Rebar on April 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Yeah, I remember when Carter was elected. I remember the recession but I was still a teenager; we’d play games in the gas lines. I just can’t remember any administration being this bad. Even after O got elected, I tried to support him because he’s our CIC. I just can’t do it.

Key West Reader on April 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Gave me an idea:

The Party of No…vember

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

awesome! good job

ted c on April 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM

The ponzi scheme has reached its end.

Sultry Beauty on April 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Politico reports that the Democrats have finally run out of rope on Pay-Go:

I will hang the last Socialist with the rope he borrowed money for. -famous quote

percysunshine on April 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:31 PM

I am pretty convinced that Independents are mostly made up of the ‘gimmee’ class of people.
They have no problem giving up certain freedoms, principles, you name it, if it benefits them.
And though they may have some sense of fiscal responsibility when the fed govt is concerned, the moment you begin to mess w/ an entitlement of theirs, they get mad.
At least these are the Independents I have known.
They are for what’s best for them, not their country & its founding principles.

Badger40 on April 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Keep talking about “taking away our freedoms,” you’ll lose most independents.

Come on, people.

Not everyone is paranoid about this.

Most of us are watching the real policies and real votes.

We’re just not into ideology stuff.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

A liberal is advising us to be dishonest about our priorities in order to win elections?

I never saw that coming.

Daggett on April 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Damn. They no longer blush when they’re caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

meMC on April 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Governance by gimmicks.

Stick a fork in the donks.

fogw on April 16, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Lie cheat and steal, it’s all Democrats know.

tarpon on April 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM

I am pretty convinced that Independents are mostly made up of the ‘gimmee’ class of people.
They have no problem giving up certain freedoms, principles, you name it, if it benefits them.
And though they may have some sense of fiscal responsibility when the fed govt is concerned, the moment you begin to mess w/ an entitlement of theirs, they get mad.
At least these are the Independents I have known.
They are for what’s best for them, not their country & its founding principles.

Badger40 on April 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

As an independent (ok, Libertarian) I disagree personally but do know quite a few that are Dims in drag. But o’s polling among Indies is down and sinking so there’s hope.

Monica on April 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM

I’m looking forward to performing the “wave as they go” this November…

notashamed on April 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Democratic principles. When they absolutely, positively have to tax you up your arse, overnight!

capejasmine on April 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Have you ever seen money jump around from pocket to pocket this fast? These guys could run a bull frog hopping contest at the next Mark Twain Festival.

Kissmygrits on April 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Democrats won’t pass a budget at all. They’ll issue continuing resolutions to keep funding the government at the same rate as FY2010 and wait until after the midterms to pass massive tax increases or waive Pay-Go.

This was discussed on (I think) Bennett two days ago, so OT – Is there a Friday atheist or gay conservative click monger thread in the offing?

Akzed on April 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM

I am appalled that the Democrats are going to get away with producing no budget at all!

Isn’t it their job to decide what money gets spent on? And don’t they have an obligation to inform the voters before elections where the money is going?

If they think they can escape accountability this way, they have another think coming!

This refusal to inform the public how they plan to spend our money is proof they simply can not be trusted to lead. It is proof that they refuse to be constricted by rules of any kind!

The Democratic Congress is completely Authoritarian and refuse to inform and answer to the American people.

They are doing away with government “by the people” altogether!

It is now “government by a select group of Democrat Socialists” who operate in backrooms away from the prying eyes of Americans!

petunia on April 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Who needs a budget when you can declare an emergency and pass more spending through individual bills than entire budgets?

cntrlfrk on April 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Sure…just send me a postcard if it catches on.

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM

too funny!!I should watch that this weekend.

tommer74 on April 16, 2010 at 2:26 PM

WashJeff on April 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Saw Ryan on Greta saying he doubts they will produce a budget. According to his analysis, there is no way in Hades they can. It would destroy them.

Independents are people who have long term memory issues. I liken them to those Coulter talks about when she says people forget how bad the Democrats are as President until we accidentally elect one, and then suddenly they remember why we cannot have Democrats as President. But I do think they care about the issues, and whether or not Democrats uphold the Pay-Go vote. We just need to find a way to keep them from periodically relapsing.

freeus on April 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM

You know what that means ….

I giggle like a schoolgirl while they hem and haw trying to figure out how the screwed themselves… then they ignore the rules and do whatever they want like always?

I’m just guessing here; but given the past as a template; I think I’m pretty close.

gekkobear on April 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Keep talking about “taking away our freedoms,” you’ll lose most independents.

Come on, people.

Not everyone is paranoid about this.

Most of us are watching the real policies and real votes.

We’re just not into ideology stuff.

AnninCA on April 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

I see, so you see no loss in freedom by Congress refusing to put it’s budget before the voters before the election?

You don’t see an attempt not to be held accountable for all the years of oxymoron worded “policies” that have left us in financial ruin?

Is ideological to understand that your freedom to make good decisions is being manipulated?

The fact that Americans will not see the budget before the election is a loss of freedom.

With no philosophy to base your vote on you will always fall for the lies they tell. It’s called spin. And it works.

You have to decide what good government looks like in order to judge individual policies. You have to have some kind of political compass to cut through the spin.

That compass is ideology. Ideology is a good thing. It is a way to measure.

Each policy fits into the whole. It can’t be evaluated without considering where it leads. And if that is the direction you believe the country should be going.

What you are really saying is: you want Big Brother to control all your decisions–you just want to make all your own decisions.

Does that really make sense?

You are obviously interested in government and politics or you wouldn’t be here.

But you would rather be blown by each individual political wind rather than get it straight in your head what you really believe the government Big Picture should be.

petunia on April 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Republicans should prepare themselves for this tactic, and remind voters that a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President have no excuses whatsoever to fail to pass a budget on time.

They don’t need excuses. They’ve got the POWER and will use it in any manner they see fit, to hell with what the people want or what laws apply.

scalleywag on April 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Since then, they have gone 0-3 in complying with their own legislation….

OK, I have a serious question. If these legislators are in violation of the law, can’t they somehow be brought up on charges? Seriously, is there a way to do that?

The time has come for ACTION. We can all sit here at our computers, writing snarky little comments until Nevember when we can actually go out and vote these crooks into oblivion. Or we can actually do something about the problem NOW.

UltimateBob on April 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Or — and this is the most likely outcome — Democrats won’t pass a budget at all. They’ll issue continuing resolutions to keep funding the government at the same rate as FY2010 and wait until after the midterms to pass massive tax increases or waive Pay-Go. Republicans should prepare themselves for this tactic, and remind voters that a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President have no excuses whatsoever to fail to pass a budget on time.

Unless the Republicans repeatedly hit on the issue of shaping a budget for FYI 2011 NOW all the way up to the midterms, the Dems plan on coasting into a victory at the polls. Expose the shell-game shenanigans forcefully. Let the taxpayers know that the Dems are fiscal mismanagers who should be booted out of office.

onlineanalyst on April 16, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Dems not passing a budget — doesn’t that make them the “Party of No”?

CJ on April 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM

It’s a wonder that our nation actually functions with these idiots in charge.

WisCon on April 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM

…and the country needs a Democrat like a fish needs a bicycle…..

search4truth on April 16, 2010 at 3:26 PM

I’m starting to think I’m not going to get all the free stuff BarryO promised.

But look at the other side. GE paid no corporate US taxes for 2009. Although they have paid over $23bln to other countries since 2003 or so, they can’t call their buddies in DC and offer to chip in a few jobs or bucks, therefore, I don’t get all that glittery bling. For free.

What a world…….it’s Bush’s fault. /s

Robert17 on April 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM

There have been a couple of years they didn’t pass a defense budget under this congress. A DEFENSE budget. While we were at war.

scalleywag on April 16, 2010 at 3:57 PM

. Or we can actually do something about the problem NOW.

UltimateBob on April 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM

I’m with you. I get soooo frustrated with this congress and this administration and they’re cocky attitudes and their profligacy. You can write or call or email your “representative” and they send you a canned reply and go do whatever they want to anyway. There has to be something, some way to prevent Americans from getting stuck for incompetents driving the country to ruins. Surely our forefathers gave us an out for such a dire situation. Can we impeach them all?

scalleywag on April 16, 2010 at 4:03 PM

but Democrats moved those funds to help pay for the health care reform bill.

Moved those funds?

Politico put some serious lipstick on THAT pig.

VibrioCocci on April 16, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Them fuses are begging to be replaced by nickels.

unclesmrgol on April 16, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Liberals are stupid. They’re always shooting themselves in the foot.

Like taking the power of the Massachusetts govenor to appoint a Senator to avoid a republican appointment by Mitt Romney yet only a few years later, Gov. Deval couldn’t appoint a replacement for Kennedy and the voters elected Scott Brown.

Doh!

Conservative Samizdat on April 16, 2010 at 5:44 PM

If they delay until after the mid-terms, chances are they won’t have strong majorities in both houses (and may even have a minority in the HoR).

If the R’s do pick up a bunch of seats in Congress, we need to be good and sure that they know that their political futures rest on them pushing for massive spending cuts bringing us somewhere within hailing distance of a balanced budget.

MJBrutus on April 16, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Rules are for the little people; rules don’t apply to democrats because they are simply superior people.

Skandia Recluse on April 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM

That is liberal mentality exactly. It is how they justify lying and the ends justifying the means.

It is an evil philosophy, plain and simple.

scotash on April 17, 2010 at 2:20 PM