Tax Day fun: Senate approves resolution opposing VAT

posted at 7:08 pm on April 15, 2010 by Allahpundit

The lead sponsor? The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick, who’ll doubtless continue to sponsor meaningless red-meat resolutions like this right up to the very day of his primary with Hayworth.

On Tax Day, and as part of an unemployment benefits extension, Senators also just approved a non-binding, Sense of the Senate amendment written by Sen. John McCain that suggests there should be no European-style Value Added Tax…

If today’s vote is any indication, value added tax proponents would have a tough time on Capitol Hill.

The vote? 85 to 13 against.

How meaningless is this? Well, among the Democrats voting yes (i.e. that the VAT stinks) were liberals like Boxer, Burris, Durbin, Feingold, Franken, Kerry, Leahy, Menendez, Sanders(!), Schumer, Specter, and Dingy Harry himself. Frankly, I’m amazed that 12 of them — plus George Voinovich — were willing to vote no. Remember Krauthammer’s point about this: The logic of ramming ObamaCare through before any significant tax increases were passed is that doing the former first actually makes doing the latter easier. If you tried to pass a tax hike to raise money for an expensive new program before enacting the program itself, the public would laugh at both. But if you pass the program and then come to the public ringing alarm bells that the money’s running out, they’re more likely to accept new taxes as a necessity. In Krauthammer’s formulation, “Expand the beast, then feed it,” the precise opposite of Reagan’s “starve the beast” strategy. We’re still momentarily entertaining the fantasy that we can pay for federal entitlements by soaking the rich, so there’s no reason yet for Reid et al. to support the VAT. Once they finally have “the talk” with American taxpayers that, what do you know, we simply can’t pay for everything by fleecing the top five percent, then all of today’s Democratic yes votes will flip in the name of “necessity.” And then, a few years later, it’ll be time for another talk about how the VAT needs to be raised a bit to meet new necessities. Can’t wait.


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No level of taxation will fund the spending that has been proposed.

Inanemergencydial on April 15, 2010 at 7:15 PM

… and then he reverts to head RINO. It gets so old watching these people manipulate the system.

tarpon on April 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Obama and the Democrats can bite me.

taney71 on April 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM

We are just not indoctrinated…give BHO some time…hmmm Hugo.

d1carter on April 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Vat, Vat, Vat are you talking about?

Mr. Joe on April 15, 2010 at 7:20 PM

This would be the same “maverick” who opposed Bush’s tax cuts, then?

Wethal on April 15, 2010 at 7:21 PM

The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick

LOL! Too funny :))

terryannonline on April 15, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Since Prince changed his name to a symbol, What would The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick’s symbol be?

portlandon on April 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Since Prince changed his name to a symbol, What would The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick’s symbol be?

portlandon on April 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM

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thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

The reason Democrats don’t like the VAT is that you can’t use it for class warfare.

pedestrian on April 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM

I’ve been listening to talk radio covering the TEA Parties most of the day…

… and I think it is safe to say that the people of this country have had enough!

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Dude!

THAT is awesome!

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2010 at 7:30 PM

This is not that surprising from McCain, he has never been a fan of high taxes.

Terrye on April 15, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Will they then say at a later date when they do vote for it that, “I was against it, before I was for it?”

fbcmusicman on April 15, 2010 at 7:32 PM

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thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

thomasaur: A beautiful Masterpiece,Canop approved,

5*Stars——————————:)

canopfor on April 15, 2010 at 7:32 PM

The WE THE PEOPLE TEAM———————1

Team Government Drunk on KOOL-AID———-0

canopfor on April 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM

I’d like to see a resolution passed that prohibits our government from putting their greedy little fingers on our individual retirement accounts. Whoever introduces that will immediately become a national hero.

fogw on April 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Arizonans are this dumb huh?

angryed on April 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Thanks for the applause but I poached it from someone else.

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:37 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

BWaaaa haaa!!! AWESOME.

We have a winner!

portlandon on April 15, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Arizonans are this dumb huh?

angryed on April 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM

The elected Janet Napolitano as governor….

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:38 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Or perhaps a simpler gesture, like a middle finger raised high and into all our faces.

TXUS on April 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM

And then, a few years later, it’ll be time for another talk about how the VAT needs to be raised a bit to meet new necessities.

Ad nauseum. Forever. With statists screaming all the way as the society slowly suffocates itself with government that it’s “for the greater good.”

Good Lt on April 15, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Or perhaps a simpler gesture, like a middle finger raised high and into all our faces.

TXUS on April 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Someone hasn’t made one for me to steal from their artistic abilities.

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Uh-oh…so much for that 0care bounce

Sarah Palin now lags Obama only 45-47 after showing deficits of eight or seven points in
each of the last three months. Both Obama and Palin have increased their base support,
but Palin now trails Obama among independents 39-46 versus 35-49 in March.

SouthernGent on April 15, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Since Prince changed his name to a symbol, What would The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick’s symbol be?

portlandon on April 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM

How about one of those See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil Monkey statues (with all the monkeys wearing sombreros).

The elected Janet Napolitano as governor….

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:38 PM

In our defense (and I did not vote for her), she ran as a secure-borders moderate (sound familiar?) and fooled a lot of voters who weren’t paying that much attention.

AZCoyote on April 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

AZCoyote on April 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

I know, I was living in AZ when she was elected. I was telling the dummies that liked her to just wait and I was right and they were pi$sed.

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Twenty percent VAT in many European Utopias.

Sounds good to me.

tru2tx on April 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM

I’d stole the facepalm too, from here at HA some time ago, but failed to copy his/her handle, dammit. That was some fine art and only wish I were talented enough to be able to “draw” like that.

TXUS on April 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:45 PM

You might have to scroll down a bit

FontanaConservative on April 15, 2010 at 8:01 PM

We’re still momentarily entertaining the fantasy that we can pay for federal entitlements by soaking the rich, so there’s no reason yet for Reid et al. to support the VAT. Once they finally have “the talk” with American taxpayers that, what do you know, we simply can’t pay for everything by fleecing the top five percent, then all of today’s Democratic yes votes will flip in the name of “necessity.” And then, a few years later, it’ll be time for another talk about how the VAT needs to be raised a bit to meet new necessities. Can’t wait.

All most likely Allah, but you left out the point where Obama gets on national tv and tells the citizenry that “we are in a crisis mode”—–every spending or taxing issue this moron FILTHY LIENG COWARD has passed/signed into law is prefaced by an imaginary CRISIS.

Rovin on April 15, 2010 at 8:05 PM

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Awesome face-palm!

Feedie on April 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM

… who’ll doubtless continue to sponsor meaningless red-meat resolutions like this right up to the very day of his primary with Hayworth.

And then play “elder statesmen” when he votes with the Democrats to establish the VAT and Cap and Tax. After getting plenty of goodies for AZ and his cronies.

Get bent, Johnny boy.

spmat on April 15, 2010 at 8:09 PM

You might have to scroll down a bit

FontanaConservative on April 15, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Thnx FC, I will put that in a file.

thomasaur on April 15, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Crap. I’m getting ready to retire to New Mexico and BOTH of the state’s senators votes NO?

Peachy. Guess I know who I will be voting against once there.

sdillard on April 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM

What a steaming pile of crap.
They can not possibly fund themselves without a VAT.

ORconservative on April 15, 2010 at 8:20 PM

NAYs —13

Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cardin (D-MD)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Kaufman (D-DE)
Levin (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Udall (D-NM)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

So is everyone of these democrats in a safe district? It is interesting both of the RI and OH Senators voted against it and I wonder if the GOP will take advantage of it in the future in those states, though RI will be tough to break?

JeffinSac on April 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM

I vote for allowing the trillion dollar savings from obamacare to eventually pay off the federal debt instead of having a VAT. You know 0 would never lie to us.

Oleta on April 15, 2010 at 8:38 PM

If you tried to pass a tax hike to raise money for an expensive new program before enacting the program itself, the public would laugh at both. But if you pass the program and then come to the public ringing alarm bells that the money’s running out, they’re more likely to accept new taxes as a necessity.

I just saw on Glen Beck today that TWELVE TIMES more people prefer cutting government spending to raising taxes.

logis on April 15, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Go Home You Obnoxious old RINO.

You’re an Embarrassment – and nobody’s buying it!!

Tim_CA on April 15, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Remember Krauthammer’s point about this: The logic of ramming ObamaCare through before any significant tax increases were passed is that doing the former first actually makes doing the latter easier.

and when Republicans take over the same tax liabilities are in place. Oh, they may cut back a little, but they never get rid of them.

We think we have it so good (and of course we do), but I don’t think we stop to think where we should be by now in the prosperity department. We take two steps forward and one step back because these greedy SOBs in both parties continue to rob us and dream up new ways of doing this.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 16, 2010 at 12:48 AM

I haven’t read the resolution, but if it does say EUROPEAN style VAT, then I can guarantee, that just like ObamaCare is not like Romneycare (according to Obama), the Dem’s VAT will not be like the European VAT. They will have kept their promise. (ahem)

Duncan Khuver on April 16, 2010 at 8:49 AM