NYT: ObamaCare may have accidentally stripped Congress of health coverage

posted at 9:47 pm on April 12, 2010 by Allahpundit

The perfect ending to a day that saw support for repealing O-Care reach a new high in Rasmussen (58 percent) and support for The One reach a new weekly low in Gallup (47 percent). Turns out that fantastically long, mind-bogglingly complex bills which no one has actually read may create unintended consequences. Remember how they forgot to require insurers to cover kids with preexisting conditions? Oh, and they forgot initially to let young adults be covered by their parents’ insurance until Reid fixed it in reconciliation. Now this. Who knew that when Pelosi said they’d have to pass the bill so that people could find out what’s in it, “people” meant Congress?

I’d call it comedy gold if not for the obvious point raised by the Times: “If they did not know exactly what they were doing to themselves, did lawmakers who wrote and passed the bill fully grasp the details of how it would influence the lives of other Americans?”

The law apparently bars members of Congress from the federal employees health program, on the assumption that lawmakers should join many of their constituents in getting coverage through new state-based markets known as insurance exchanges.

But the research service found that this provision was written in an imprecise, confusing way, so it is not clear when it takes effect.

The new exchanges do not have to be in operation until 2014. But because of a possible “drafting error,” the report says, Congress did not specify an effective date for the section excluding lawmakers from the existing program.

Under well-established canons of statutory interpretation, the report said, “a law takes effect on the date of its enactment” unless Congress clearly specifies otherwise. And Congress did not specify any other effective date for this part of the health care law. The law was enacted when President Obama signed it three weeks ago.

In other words, theoretically the law kicks them out of the federal health plan now in order to force them to join insurance exchanges … that don’t exist yet. Looking forward to tomorrow, when we’re inevitably told that they meant to do that. Exit question for lawyers: Who would have standing to sue to force the federal health plan to drop Congress now? Any citizen, or is it more refined than that?

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What is to prevent legislators from simply obtaining an individual family policy, as millions of ordinary citizens not covered by group plans do now? (Epic irony aside, of course).

Barnestormer on April 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Part with their own money? That would never occur to them.

zmdavid on April 12, 2010 at 10:34 PM

He’s still drunk, you know.

SagebrushPuppet on April 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM

You know that eternal flame is an alcohol lamp with a long wick.

Aviator on April 12, 2010 at 10:35 PM

This is a pitch perfect great accident for the GOP but also a crucial test. This story will be really big and should be pushed; I can’t think of anything that will resonate more with people.
Will the DC GOP help the Dems fix this, for themselves and their staffs? Or will they suck it up until we repeal?

motionview on April 12, 2010 at 10:35 PM

That would mean another reconciliation bill….is that allowable?

IrishEi on April 12, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Is that allowable? As if that ever stopped this bunch?

Doughboy on April 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Nancy Pelosi: “We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it”

When Nancy made that statement I thought she was talking to the American public, now I find out she was talking to Congress.

Basil Fawlty on April 12, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Just goes to show you that you should read the fine print on anything you sign or hire an attorney to explain it to you.I think back to that pic of Pelosi laughing and smiling as she walks with that huge gavel. Morons!

Electrongod on April 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Part with their own money? That would never occur to them.

zmdavid on April 12, 2010 at 10:34 PM

I take your point, but evidently it wouldn’t be their only recent non-occurrence.

Barnestormer on April 12, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Okay this is hilarious!

gophergirl on April 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Is that allowable? As if that ever stopped this bunch?

Doughboy on April 12, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Point.

IrishEi on April 12, 2010 at 10:43 PM

“the hell you haven’t”- I wonder if he knew….and is now laughing in his beer….

Can’t. Stop. Laughing.

journeyintothewhirlwind on April 12, 2010 at 10:43 PM

The only way this issue will really gain any traction is if all GOP members of Congress say ‘ok, we’re not covered anymore, we need to buy our own insurance just like the law says’. The Dims, being Dims, won’t do the same (hopefully), and we then have a really fun campaign issue. It’ll never happen, of course, but I can dream…

joejm65 on April 12, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Karma’s a bitch

jnelchef on April 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Karma’s a b!tch

jnelchef on April 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Hey, it’s not the end of the world. There’s always the ER. In downtown DC. Say, on a Saturday night.

Barnestormer on April 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM

I hope that they have to try to pass another bill to fix this and Republicans block it.

farright on April 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Few things could give me greater schadenfreudinous joy than to see a private citizen sue to force the members of congress out of the federal Golden Goose Health Insurance program.

They would lynch Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in the Rotunda.

Jaibones on April 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Can they tack a fix onto an unemployment benefits bill? Also, if they forgot to fix something benefiting themselves, what goodies are in store for us?

lonestar1 on April 12, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Oh come now… The New York Times isn’t suggesting they didn’t fully understand this debacle of a bill are they?

Nooooooo this is Democrats we are talking about! They knew all a long what they were doing! They wanted to self pay. Especially the really old ones.

Being soooooo much smarter than the rest of us. Being sooooo over qualified to tell us exactly what we want out of life…. they could never never have made a mistake this big. Never.

OH MY GOSH!

There has got to be a way to make this more and more embarrassing to them. Billboards? What would embarrass them the most?

Oh please let this make them die of embarrassment?

I forgot they were Democrats for a minute they have no conscience. What was I thinking?

petunia on April 12, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Imagine going to a waiting room for our new health care program. To me, and I guess it’s just my imagination like the great song says) it would be like standing in line at the post office. But in this case, all those strangers standing in line with you at the post office are only waiting for a doctor just like you are. Next!!
Not too good for a possible cardiac problem….

Travis1 on April 12, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Karma’s a b!tch

jnelchef on April 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM

No Karma in this case is a sweet little girl puppy. Cuddly and warm… and funny so so funny.

petunia on April 12, 2010 at 10:59 PM

I think it is time to write my Congressmen and tell them not to fix this problem!

John McCain, Jon Kyl, John Shadegg! Don’t fix this!

Hey I just realized they all have the same first name.

petunia on April 12, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Pelosi had said “you’ll have to pass it to know what’s in it”… guess she was right… There WAS a Jack in that box!

angrywonk on April 12, 2010 at 11:09 PM

“If they did not know exactly what they were doing to themselves, did lawmakers who wrote and passed the bill fully grasp the details of how it would influence the lives of other Americans?”

Did someone change the bulb at the NY Times?

an alcohol lamp with a long wick

How I would like to be remembered!

jdkchem on April 12, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Did Fox get onto this?

Sharke on April 12, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Oh God, please let this be so. Congress off the government health teat would be so…delicious.

Mr. Joe on April 12, 2010 at 11:40 PM

point raised by the Times: “If they did not know exactly what they were doing to themselves, did lawmakers who wrote and passed the bill fully grasp the details of how it would influence the lives of other Americans?”

As if the Times gives a flying fsck whether they did or didn’t. The Times wanted this crammed down our throats as much as any disgusting little troll of a Congressman did.

The NTTimes loves misery. Human misery == stories. If they can induce that misery, more’s the better. DIAF NY Times.

spmat on April 12, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Has anyone e-mailed this to Rush…?

What a show that would make!

Seven Percent Solution on April 12, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Most inept Congress ever!!

FireBlogger on April 12, 2010 at 11:53 PM

Can we fine them and throw them in jail too? /wishful thinking

modnar on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

The support is for the basic principles, which the Dems are getting credit for, of course. That was always a given in this game.

No pre-existing conditions, no more booting people in the middle of treatment.

Dems were right about that one selling itself. That is exactly what people were freaked out by, given the industry practices. They will, indeed, gain traction, too, on solving that one.

But the GOP knew this.

AnninCA on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Just desserts

ya2daup on April 13, 2010 at 12:02 AM

No pre-existing conditions, no more booting people in the middle of treatment.

AnninCA on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Instead we get a system that doesn’t even check for any kind of preexisting condition. Even the lung cancer of a 55-year smoker. Or the broken arm of an extreme BMX racer.

So YOU get to pay for everyone else’s medical treatment. Regardless. That’s what it means.

Insurance companies are no longer insuring anyone. They’re contractors for federally-mandated welfare. Nothing more.

spmat on April 13, 2010 at 12:06 AM

Only slightly O/T…

We’re having an insurance meeting on Wed., 4.28.10 to hear how we’re going to be screwed – oh, I mean affected – by Obamacare. Depending on how much I’m screwed/affected determines whether I buy a car before 5.3.10 while the special interest rate is in effect.

I am POSITIVE Obama knew what this bill would do to our country, but I wonder if the freaking dumb arse DEMS in Congress thought it through? I don’t know that they’re smart enough.

Oink on April 13, 2010 at 12:07 AM

AnninCA, do you realize that your “good intentions” are going to get millions killed?

Do you give a damn?

Or is government nothing more than a way for you to assuage your own guilt?

Do the tens of millions murdered in the name of “doing something” mean anything to you?

Your desire to force “universal coverage” will result in no less than that. You, and everyone like you, will be responsible for their blood. Enjoy your bath.

spmat on April 13, 2010 at 12:11 AM

The provision governing members of Congress can be traced to the Senate Finance Committee. When the panel was working on the legislation last September, Senator Charles E.

Grassley, Republican of Iowa, proposed an amendment to require that elected federal officials and all federal employees buy coverage through an exchange, “rather than using the traditional Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.”

A scaled-back version of the amendment, applying to members of Congress and their aides, was accepted in the committee without objection.

Senate Finance Committee members ask for a protective detail from other members of Congress and their staff (not tea partiers) in 5,4,3,2

journeyintothewhirlwind on April 13, 2010 at 12:21 AM

I hope that they have to try to pass another bill to fix this and Republicans block it.

farright on April 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM

“Want your coverage back? Fine. You can repeal that part of the bill by repealing the whole bill.

Don’t like it!? Tough Sh*t. We got our 41 votes. Bring up repeal and then we’ll talk.”.

We could get this bill repealed sooner than November if the republicans take this line. Oh wouldn’t that be nice.

And if democrats use reconciliation as a fix, it’s yet another monument that the republicans can point to in November.

The schadenfreude is so thick it’s rewiring my senses. It’s a beautiful feeling.

Chaz706 on April 13, 2010 at 12:22 AM

In seconds these shifty bastards will make a new law HR 4Q2-I8PELOSI giving congress special health insurance coverage and totally exempting themselves from the gang rape legislation they have perpetuated on the American People.

MaiDee on April 12, 2010 at 10:00 PM

In order to re-up for coverage, however, they will be required to fill out Form ID-10T.

ya2daup on April 13, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Class action lawsuit on behalf of all taxpayers if even one of those jokers claims a benefit under the plan they voted themselves out of.

pedestrian on April 13, 2010 at 12:38 AM

And those imbeciles think they are capable of running an additional 1/6 of our economy?

Who was the first Bolshevik who noticed what was going on and said, “Oh sh….?”

pedestrian on April 13, 2010 at 12:41 AM

I’m not a lawyer, but why won’t every citizen has standing? People, that are members of Congress, are drawing on Federal resources they have no right to. And we, as citizens, will be taxed to cover this misuse of Federal resources. If my taxes go up some incalculable amount because an extra 535 people are using programs not designed for them, why should I, as a taxpayer, be stuck with the bill?

Fred 2 on April 13, 2010 at 1:05 AM

Do medical benefits come with the Congressional pensions? And if so, does this also cancel THOSE benefits? All the more reason to see some of the Leftists retired NOW.

njcommuter on April 13, 2010 at 1:17 AM

Heh.

RD on April 13, 2010 at 1:40 AM

It’s storybook, man!

Sowell Disciple on April 13, 2010 at 2:09 AM

Aren’t they representatives of the State, elected from the States to do the States business in DC? Why is the Federal Government paying for Stated employee? Shouldn’t the State they represent be paying them with what’s left over after the Federal Mandates are covered?

jpcpt03 on April 13, 2010 at 2:57 AM

No pre-existing conditions, no more booting people in the middle of treatment.

AnninCA on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Holy crap, I just wrapped my Ferrari around a telephone pole. I need a “no excluding preexisting damage” clause on my car insurance too.

I mean, just because I’ve not paid into the system while I drove around and wrecked my car doesn’t mean that I should be forced to pay for it instead of forcing you to foot the bill while I pay a small premium and then stop paying for my insurance until my next wreck, right?

I should be encouraged to screw over the system and force everyone to pay for my problems without worrying about the cost I impose… and this will totally work as an economic model too. Somehow, I think magic is involved, or elves, maybe aliens too; I didn’t read the whole thing.

gekkobear on April 13, 2010 at 3:59 AM

is this a surprise coming form a man that said this:

I don’t think I was that unique at that time,” the president said of his Columbia days, “and I don’t think I’m that unique today in thinking that if we could put the genie back in the bottle, in some sense, that there would be less danger — not just to the United States but to people around the world.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/world/05nuclear.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1

You all get that? Obama thinks he can put the nuclear genie back in the bottle. OMFG we are so screwed. this man is living rent free in utopia.

unseen on April 13, 2010 at 4:49 AM

Does this mean the Dems will join us in pushing for repeal? Heh.

PrincipledPilgrim on April 13, 2010 at 5:26 AM

Brings new meaning to an old term:
dimmycrats

n0doz on April 13, 2010 at 6:39 AM

It’s a feature, not a bug.

trl on April 13, 2010 at 6:57 AM

this put a smile on my face after i’ve just read the thread of dear leader bowing to china…

thank you!

cmsinaz on April 13, 2010 at 7:32 AM

What is Scooter Obama going to say to Congress? Oops?

kingsjester on April 13, 2010 at 7:46 AM

anninca never disappoints. Inane drivel is, and has been, part of this entire process. She brings it to a new level. Congratulation!

mossberg500 on April 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM

It’s a feature, not a bug.

trl on April 13, 2010 at 6:57 AM

Please! I was drinking coffee at the time!!!!!!!!!!!

flytier on April 13, 2010 at 8:26 AM

Remember back in December when Nan said “Health Care is our gift to the American people?” SURPRISE!

Herb on April 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM

You can train a monkey to smoke a cigar and ride a bike.

You can train a Congressman to vote yes with the right treats too.

Not much differesnce.

Wander on April 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Don’t worry. The Dems will stick a fix into an Omnibus bill before they turn control of Congress back to the Republicans. Now that the AP Obama has pointed that out.

Rndguy on April 13, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Zapped by their own unintended consequence. How appropriate. Baucus is still running tv announcements about the wonderfulness of his health care plan during the local news hour. He still has 4 more years to go.

Kissmygrits on April 13, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Suddenly, repeal goes mainstream among members of congress.

Vashta.Nerada on April 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM

The only way this issue will really gain any traction is if all GOP members of Congress say ‘ok, we’re not covered anymore, we need to buy our own insurance just like the law says’. The Dims, being Dims, won’t do the same (hopefully), and we then have a really fun campaign issue. It’ll never happen, of course, but I can dream…joejm65 on April 12, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Lindsay Graham was saying exactly that back during the fall. CBS news did a big interview with him where he said that members of Congress should be forced to use the same health care system that they enact for constituents instead of the gold-plated one they get now.

I know Graham isn’t anybody’s favorite, but he is perfectly positioned to take this bull by the horns. I think some nice calls to his offices would do wonders.Check it out:
http://wap.cbsnews.com/site?sid=cbsnews&pid=sections.detail&catId=TOP&index=1&storyId=5382699&type=null&searchKey=null&viewFull=yes

funky chicken on April 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Does this provision cover all federal employees or just the congress critters? That would save us a lot of money if we got all of them off their cadillac plan.

Kissmygrits on April 13, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Sen. Lindsey Graham agreed to show CBS News first hand, flashing his Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance card. Blue Cross Blue Shield is one of five plans offered to members of Congress. Most Americans, 74 percent are offered only one plan – if their employer offers insurance at all. And members of Congress earn $174,000 a year – triple the income of the average working-age household. Yet their premiums are about the same. Special Report: Health Care Reform For them, there’s no coverage limit – a major factor for the American families bankrupted or thrown into poverty by health care costs. Pre-existing conditions? No problem for congressmen and women. The rest of us are out of luck. And the elected officials get still more perks most Americans can only dream of. Got a cold? You probably have to take time off work and wait to see a doctor. Not Congress. “We’re able to access that health care 24 hours a day when we’re in Washington,” Graham said, leading us to the Attending Physician’s Office, a clinic inside the U.S. Capitol. They dont even have to leave the office. About half of the members of Congress, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, use the Attending Physician benefit. For $42 a month, they can get all the primary care they need – physical therapy, X-rays, minor surgery, specialists and a pharmacy for emergencies – no appointment needed. They also get VIP hospital treatment from the best doctors at Bethesda Naval Hospital. And they have a reserved spot at the elite Ward 72 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where the late Sen. Strom Thurmond spent a lot of time. Outpatient care is free. Well, free for them. Your tax dollars pick up the cost. Graham says in the current climate, it’s just not fair. “If we pass a law that says a public option will be made available, I think people like myself should get out of this plan and go into the public option,” he said. That’s unlikely. Congress has voted down all proposals that would switch them to a public option

Graham is on fire over this issue–make calls to encourage him to keep it up. He is the best voice the GOP has on health care right now….there’s no reason to cut off your nose to spite your face.

funky chicken on April 13, 2010 at 9:08 AM

It’s a feature, not a bug.

trl on April 13, 2010 at 6:57 AM

Heh. I am again reminded of the best cartoon ever, B.C.:

“What’s this dirty doing in my soup?!”

“The same thing your tea bag is doing in your tea…”

Jaibones on April 13, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Woopsiiiiiie!

Alden Pyle on April 13, 2010 at 9:32 AM

From Wikipedia, so YMMV:

The False Claims Act (31 U.S.C. § 3729–3733, also called the “Lincoln Law”) is an American federal law that allows people who are not affiliated with the government to file actions against federal contractors claiming fraud against the government. The act of filing such actions is informally called “whistleblowing.” Persons filing under the Act stand to receive a portion (usually about 15–25 percent) of any recovered damages. The Act provides a legal tool to counteract fraudulent billings turned in to the Federal Government. Claims under the law have been filed by persons with insider knowledge of false claims that have typically involved health care, military, or other government spending programs. The government has recovered nearly $22 billion under the False Claims Act between 1987 (after the significant 1986 amendments) and 2008.

In this case it would be the providers you want to cite: those giving care to Congresscritters under federal health policies. My guess is you could whip this up into a pretty big corruption lawsuit or a class action lawsuit or something about the abuse of powers under waste, fraud and abuse statutes.

Really, there is no end of fun to be had with this.

ajacksonian on April 13, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Poetic Justice LMAO!!

xler8bmw on April 13, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Fred 2 on April 13, 2010 at 1:05 AM

I don’t know, but wasn’t this the reason no one could get anywhere in the courts challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president? I know part of the reasoning was a lack of jurisdiction (again, wtf???) but I think the other reason the case was rejected was that the courts said the guy trying to bring the suit had no standing. Frankly, I find that baffling. If an ordinary citizen, a voter, doesn’t have standing, who does? By the same token, a constituent ought to be able go to court to force their representative into the state exchanges, but good luck to the lawyers who can figure out how to get the case through our byzantine federal court system.

NoLeftTurn on April 13, 2010 at 9:57 AM

I’d like to know what happens now. Do they ignore this new law they made and keep their Tax-funded insurance?

If that’s the case, can we ignore the whole thing?

Jewels on April 13, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I want to be in the same one as Carol Shea-Porter. She only has her own best interests at heart so I know she’ll choose well.

jeanie on April 13, 2010 at 10:08 AM

PRICELESS!

GarandFan on April 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Oh please let this make them die of embarrassment?

I forgot they were Democrats for a minute they have no conscience. What was I thinking?

petunia on April 12, 2010 at 10:55 PM

If Congress isn’t already embarrassed to death, this “minor mistake” sure won’t do it.

Who is John Galt on April 13, 2010 at 10:31 AM

anninca never disappoints. Inane drivel is, and has been, part of this entire process. She brings it to a new level. Congratulation!

mossberg500 on April 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM

I don’t know why she ever even posts on Hotair….Do you think she is one of Obama’s paid lackeys?

theaddora on April 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM

So that’s 30,000,535 uninsured, then?

Nice.

James on April 13, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Well, that’s not a prob for congress, they can just reach into their freezers and pay in cold hard cash.

TheSitRep on April 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM

The support is for the basic principles, which the Dems are getting credit for, of course. That was always a given in this game.

No pre-existing conditions, no more booting people in the middle of treatment.

Dems were right about that one selling itself. That is exactly what people were freaked out by, given the industry practices. They will, indeed, gain traction, too, on solving that one.

But the GOP knew this.

AnninCA on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Yes, Democrats are good at selling bullsh1t and destroying the entire purpose of the markets.

How’d that Community Reinvestment Act work out for you?

What industry practices? Are you talking about Medicare and Medicaid being the largest and most selective insurance companies int he country?

The WORST insurance companies in the entire Country and you want the people running them to get even more power and control?

You haven’t figured out the Democrats ARE Big Business? They just bring it under the umbrella of Gov’t to convince the morons out there like you that they are doing good. In reality, then are amassing power. Dems and GOP alike.

When you have pre-existing conditions, then you are no longer getting insurance, you are getting welfare.

Wrap your Social Security Card non-deserving head around that principle.

And then go back to California instead of mooching off a different state. Parasites, that’s all you liberals are.

uknowmorethanme on April 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM

The support is for the basic principles, which the Dems are getting credit for, of course. That was always a given in this game.

No pre-existing conditions, no more booting people in the middle of treatment.

Dems were right about that one selling itself. That is exactly what people were freaked out by, given the industry practices. They will, indeed, gain traction, too, on solving that one.

But the GOP knew this.

AnninCA on April 12, 2010 at 11:56 PM

But the GOP also knew that your middle sentence could be implemented without over 1,500 pages of gobbeldeegook which establishes a first-time-ever requirement for private individuals to buy something they might not want, and an extensive federal bureaucracy to maintain.

They knew it could be implemented without funding abortions, or requiring a one-size-fits-all “death panel” to determine what must or must not be covered — something the marketplace was already doing quite well without a one-size-fits-all solution.

Of course, that’s precisely the conundrum that any attempt of this type would find itself — to require a company to cover an existing condition (take a loss, as it were), you have to hide that loss in a pool of healthy people — precisely the people who would normally have purchased a cheap catastrophic care policy of the sort which is soon to be illegal.

unclesmrgol on April 13, 2010 at 11:13 AM

anninca never disappoints. Inane drivel is, and has been, part of this entire process. She brings it to a new level. Congratulation!

mossberg500 on April 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM

I don’t know why she ever even posts on Hotair….Do you think she is one of Obama’s paid lackeys?

theaddora on April 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Anninca is a concern troll who pretends to be moderate and pretends to be reasonable at times. When she does not have an answer to an argument, she ignores it. She speaks in nothing but cliches. She pretends not to be socialist and only “concerned” about “industry practices” and “the uninsured”.

In reality, she often drops her veil to reveal a full-on marxist who worships government. She is too ignorant to even realize when she does this however and believes she is fooling people with her fake persona of a moderate. People who are new to her often fall for it for a few threads, and will try and engage her in rational discourse, only to find their time wasted as she responds with cliches or ignores arguments she can’t respond to (which is most arguments).

The funniest thing about anninca is that she seems to believe that she understands the debate, but she has revealed herself to have no understanding of economics, law, or healthcare whatsoever. She certainly has never understood what insurance is.

Monkeytoe on April 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM

The beauty is that to fix this, they have to pass a special law that treats themselves specially under the health care law. Since that is effectively a pay increase, in cannot go into effect during their term, according to to the 27th ammendment.

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Actually, it seems to me that the entire law cannot go into effect until after the election, because the law changes the compensation of Congress members.

pedestrian on April 13, 2010 at 11:28 AM

I wonder if they’ll(Congress)have the chutzpah to go and reconcile this one. Ooops, don’t look now, but we’re going back onto the Federal plan, it’s way better. Some dumb staffer simply worded it badly and didn’t send us the memo.

jeanie on April 13, 2010 at 11:30 AM

The support is for the basic principles, which the Dems are getting credit for, of course. That was always a given in this game.

Which are…? What?

Steal from your neighbor’s paycheck to give to yourself?

Dems were right about that one selling itself. That is exactly what people were freaked out by, given the industry practices. They will, indeed, gain traction, too, on solving that one.

Really? Polling data from every outlet suggests it hasn’t, er, “sold.”

Good Lt on April 13, 2010 at 11:35 AM

Guess what pages of the bill are going to magically disappear and the whole thing gets repaginated!!

That way if anyone asks they’ll say your copy was just a draft and this copy was the one we voted on.

Democrats and screwups and coverups all go hand in hand.

Bubba Redneck on April 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM

The Senate Republicans must filibuster any corrective changes until the next session… A congressman is provided the continuous access to the healthcare plan in place when they leave office… how fitting will it be that every single traitor who voted for this bill, and has either retired in the face of a tough challenge, or gets voted-out in November, has created the unintended consequence of the permanent loss of his gold-plated, Cadillac retirement healthcare coverage… Karma is a bitch …

phreshone on April 13, 2010 at 12:06 PM

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