Lieberman: Obama decision on terror terminology “Orwellian”
posted at 11:45 am on April 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Joe Lieberman offered the first sharp criticism from the Left over Barack Obama’s decision to eliminate the terms “Islamic extremism” and “jihad” from national security policy statements. He blasted the decision as “Orwellian” on Fox News Sunday this morning:
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) on Sunday called the administration’s proposal to avoid the term “Islamic extremism” in national security references “absolutely Orwellian and counterproductive.”
Lieberman revealed on “Fox News Sunday” that he had sent a letter to the president’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, saying in part: “The failure to identify our enemy for what it is, violent Islamist extremism, is offensive and contradicts thousands of years of accepted military and intelligence doctrine to know your enemy.” …
Lieberman said that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were not carried out by “some amorphous group of violent extremists or environmental extremists or white supremacist extremists.”
“It’s absolutely Orwellian and counterproductive to the fight that we’re fighting at risk of great life every day to stop violent extremism of an Islamist base,” he said.
I’m not sure I’d go as far as Orwellian, although it’s certainly a defensible accusation. The entire notion seems to me to be based on two impulses. One, Obama seems to want to create his own imprimatur on the war on terror simply by redefining all of the terms. It’s the mark of an incompetent manager, one that focuses on the paperwork rather than the mission itself. Changing the lingo requires no real heavy lifting, plus it has the virtue of tying up bureaucrats for a space of time in a way that makes them look busy rather than doing something productive.
The second impulse is the same one that drives Academia to issue campus speech codes. These universities believe that a change of language equals a change of behavior. Instead, people simply find their way around the codes, pushing everyone to be Talmudists rather than speak honestly and debate actual issues. That kind of policy also creates a lot more work as its victims find ways to victimize each other, putting the administrations into powerful positions as arbiters of acceptable thought.
Either way, this kind of silliness is a tremendous waste of time and energy that ends up fooling absolutely no one except the academics who issue these proclamations. It may also be Orwellian, but the real problem is that this administration is focused on terminology to the detriment of actual counterterrorism. They need to start getting a lot more serious at the White House.









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He know his enemy and has labeled them ‘Teabaggers’. Jihadis are not his enemy.
thomasaur on April 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM
ITs creeping Political think. We cant hold anyone to any standards as it might be offensive.
In fact this is what CBS news is pulling today.
CBS News Asks CAIR what does a terrorist look like ?
William Amos on April 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM
I wouldn’t bet the mortgage on that happening. If the Ft. Hood disaster and the near disaster in the skies over Detroit hasn’t woken them up then I don’t think anything will.
chemman on April 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM
BTW ED I think the 1984 analogy works. Islam doesnt like books or Ideas that challenge it.
Blasphemy is considered a crime in Islam.
Sharia Law is as close to the 1984 Idea of totalitarianism that any ideologue has had since the Nazis and Communists.
William Amos on April 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM
“Orwellian” is the perfect word to describe this behavior. After all, George Orwell’s 1984 was a warning against what could happen in a totalitarian state, and that is what we are fast becoming unless we can derail Obozo’s agenda and kick him and cohorts out of the White House in 2012.
OneVision on April 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM
I don’t think even another 9/11 would cause the White House to get serious about counterterrorism.
ladyingray on April 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Lieberman to be attacked for his religion soon, by members of the Big Tent Sensitivity Party, of course.
Bishop on April 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Hmmm. No more Hot Air balloons in San Diego?
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
This isn’t new territory for this administration. Remember “man-caused disasters”, “overseas contingency operations”, and the infamous DHS report targeting returning vets and people whose political views lean right as potential threats? And that was all within the first 3 months of Obama’s term.
Doughboy on April 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Hmmm. No more Hot Air balloons in San Diego?
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Key West Reader: Speaking of 1984!:)
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Orwellian
ObamOrwellian!
OrwellObamian!
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Why not? It is doublethink and newspeak, combined. Doublespeak – Obama’s favorite “language.”
DINORight on April 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM
He’s damn right.
the_nile on April 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM
This, I thought, is the most important part of Lieberman’s remarks: it “contradicts thousands of years of accepted military and intelligence doctrine to know your enemy.”
If you can’t name and recognize your enemy, you can never defeat it. But for post-modernists, if there is any enemy it is us, in sort of Pogo-esque fashion. And such labelling simply constitutes transference of all our own great evils and fears about ourselves onto the innocent “other”.
Get these people out of there before their silly academic games get us all killed.
ProfessorMiao on April 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Which is the definition of Orwellian. Especially when it is coupled with this:
War on terror is a misleading label, because it is a war against a type of action, not a war against certain actors. We need to define who our enemies are (actors) rather than certain methods (actions). War on terror was a misstep, but Dear Liar’s decision is a step backwards. We are fighting Islamic extremists. Not against Islam in general, but a narrow, warped, paleolithic version of Islam.
rbj on April 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Besides hoisting a white flag over the White House, Pentagon, and Congress, what else can dear Barrack do to capitulate to our enemies?
The only thing he shows a penchant for is screwing up years of established protocol of every category.
Any day now, we’re going to be getting news of mysterious accidents to our Conservative Leaders.
This is no long stretch from the outright bribery employed to pass healthcare and other legislation.
Cybergeezer on April 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Sounds Orwellian to me.
tru2tx on April 11, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Are they changing the term to “Constitution-loving American”?
ROCnPhilly on April 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
With all due respect. The doctrine of Islam is the doctrine of Death. America and the World knows this now. This is not a war of people. This is a war against a warped and perverted doctrine.
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Somehow,someway,this terminology,of the Liberal touchy
feely,I feel soooooooooooo damn guilty, and we must
change the wording,so Leftys can have a goodnight sleep
has got to stop,and be thrusted into the American media,
to stop this assine nonsense!!
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 12:04 PM
I disagree, Ed. Obamao is not just making busy work or trying to put his own mark on this conflict. He sincerely doesn’t want to hurt the feelings of Muslims, & he’s willing to twist everyone else in knots to avoid even the slightest possibility that any would be offended by his administration.
itsnotaboutme on April 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
I suggest we declare Jihad on Obama. In any case it just means \’internal struggle\’.
Phoenician on April 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Why is that no one is asking where Obama went yesterday when he broke all tradition and did not let the press follow him…the story line that it was just one his daughter’s sporting events is just lame. Where did he go?? Who did he meet with??
georgealbert on April 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM
‘
Sorry if I’mma burst yo bubble here. Obama isn’t worried about World Issues. He’s worriedi about the next costume he’s going to wear for his next speech! Starring Teleprompter 1 and Teleprompter 2!
Don’t miss this special teleprompterpresidentialspeech. Next Tuesday at 8pm! T-Vo it!
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Clarity in a sea of scum.
Shy Guy on April 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM
My only problem with the above is that it seems to be the dominate view of Islam at this point. So it may be narrow, it may be warped, and it may be paleolithic but it is the center of Islam
chemman on April 11, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Let’s face it, Obamao doesn’t want us to concentrate on his religion! He wants to tie Christianity in also to try to swing the conservative’s sights off him!!!
problem is…we see what he’s doing!
Vntnrse on April 11, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Three words:
SMART Power!!!!11111!!!!eleventy
jukin on April 11, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Beat me to the punch.
chemman on April 11, 2010 at 12:11 PM
He is a Muslim sympathizer, his allies are Muslims and therefore we will not speak poorly of Muslims. Thank you enlightened voters . . . you really stuck it to us this time.
rplat on April 11, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Let’s hope he met with God. You gotta give the man a break. He’s in way over his head, he knows it and he is most likely freaked out at this point. I say we pray for him a bit. But if he comes back out and starts dissing America and Americans, then I will be the first to make pee pee on his head.
Pray for Obama. He needs prayer. He needs to change course. He needs to listen. He. Is our president. We have a National Duty to wish him well.
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
When will the doubters come to understand that Obama wants to destroy our country?
GaltBlvnAtty on April 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
The last thing this administration wants is to have a debate on the issues — any issues. It’s why they’re working so hard to demonize the Tea Party as a bunch of ignorant, racist, kooks. If we’re nuts, then nobody is going to want to listen to what we have to say.
We all saw Barry’s rambling, incoherent, 17-minute non-answer to the question asked about taxes. Barry knows he can’t win a debate on the issues; that’s why it is so important to him to keep people focused on something . . . anything . . . else. Fortunately for Barry, he has a complicit MSM working with him in this effort.
AZCoyote on April 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Orwellian
The word is sometimes used to describe a particularly anti-libertarian government policy, but it is also sometimes used to describe the peculiar, nonsensical thought process behind Oceania’s social structure–a thought process in which ideas that are obviously self-contradictory are accepted as true based on the fact that an authority figure is asserting them.
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Here is why,Liberals feel offended by Liebermans statement!
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The Bush administration’s No Child Left Behind program (which is unfunded and therefore technically leaves children behind) and Clear Skies Initiative (which weakens anti-pollution regulations and therefore technically makes skies less clear) are often cited as examples of Orwellian policies, but so are London’s omnipresent surveillance cameras and North Korea’s patriotism indoctrination camps.
Liberals just don’t get it!!!
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/g/orwellian.htm
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Ed, you may not want to go as far as calling what Obama is doing here Orwellian, but I most definetely will!
You cannot just define something out of existence by attempting to eliminate terminology from describing what is, in essence, pure evil, but that is exactly what Obama is trying to do here. He seems to believe that removing terms like “Islamic extremism” and “jihad” from national security policy statements is going to making the problem go away.
This is nothing more than the classic “stick-you-head-in-the-sand” approach that liberals seem to excel in, and it fails each and every time it is employed.
The only thing Obama is doing here is playing a dangerous and possibly deadly game of semantics, and it is one that may end up empowering the enemy more than holding them at bay.
pilamaye on April 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
I am Winston Smith.
Inanemergencydial on April 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
You can call them puppies or kittens or kangaroos. Those bloody bastard Islamic terrorists are still at war with us but, thanks to the Obama regime, we are NOT at war with them.
TXUS on April 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Political correctness, Obama and most of his policies are Orwellian.
BottomLine5 on April 11, 2010 at 12:15 PM
I’m still waiting for any lefty to refer to Joe Liebermann as a “maverick”.
Really Right on April 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM
And I, am your mistress.
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM
The last thing this administration wants is to have a debate on the issues — any issues.
AZCoyote on April 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
AZCoyote:Good point,after all,Leftys are into “Consensus”!
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Based on what the “won” is doing I’d say his true hero is Neville “Peace in Our Times” Chamberlain. It will not end well for any of us.
chemman on April 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM
“Veil wearing puppy lovers”
BOOOOM!
Key West Reader on April 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM
We are fighting against Shariah. Plain and simple. Read this to learn more:
http://townhall.com/columnists/FrankGaffney/2010/04/09/the_real_reason_they_hate_us
uknowmorethanme on April 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM
ObaMao’s words are indeed Orwellian. The whole agenda of the Leftists is Orwellian. Playing with the language is playing with policy. Language manipulation meant to obfuscate is an authoritarian propaganda tool. That method is about the only aspect of the Left in general and ObaMao in particular that is transparent.
How much money and how many man-hours will be spent in scrubbing terms that the O-administration finds offensive?
onlineanalyst on April 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
That “narrow” version you speak of is being funded and taught, with the help of billions of petro-dollars, in places as far-flung as the Philippines, Indonesia, Bosnia, Pakistan, Venezuela, Somalia, Russia, parts of China, all of Europe, the United States of America,…
hillbillyjim on April 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
The Republicans can’t run on foreign policy anymore.
Things are so screwed up at home, they better get an agenda beyond “free markets” and start addressing real problems like the circle jerk going on between corrupt Wall Street banks and the corrupt Congress.
rickyricardo on April 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
The same ingnorant approach to calling the slaughter of unborn babies an unviable mass of tissue is what drives the liberals to redefine terms they are not comfortable with to rationalise their collective consciences.
fourdeucer on April 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM
The problem is that it might be narrow now but its believers are pushing for it to be the mainstream thought.
William Amos on April 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Whatsa matta yu?
Dem ladies in robes are Nuns, and the men are priests that are just performing their duty to assist all in getting to heaven, maybe a little early.
Listen to the high priest, Barrack, and ready yourselves for your rewards.
Cybergeezer on April 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Are we allowed to use this new double-speak, or are we going to be censored when we attempt it?
What’s wrong with saying we want Jihad when all it means is active citizenship?
http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/dp/2009100603
http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=6477
Phoenician on April 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Let’s just stop cloaking this POS in literary terms. He’s just plain un-American.
BetseyRoss on April 11, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Look at Turkey, which for a long time has been a Muslim culture without the Wahhabist viewpoint. True, now there is an Islamist ascendancy, but it doesn’t mean that every Muslim = AQ/Taliban. Christianity used to hang witches, but no longer does any version (outside, perhaps of a few weird cults) of Christianity promote such things.
Islam does need a Reformation. The problem is that Middle Eastern countries think 1) we are Allah’s chosen ones but 2) we aren’t as successful as the West, particularly the US. And while the real answer is that ME countries have corrupt, repressive & incompetent governments, they manipulate their religion to put the blame on America.
I am not going to go to war with 1 billion Muslims; that would truly be a destructive war, making WWII look like child’s play.
rbj on April 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM
So Obama is a closet Muslim, is this news?
Take back the Government in 2010 and 2012.
If Democrats are not the majority in Congress they do not control the agenda or the committees.
Obama knows the clock is ticking on his influence.
albill on April 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM
Submit, then.
hillbillyjim on April 11, 2010 at 12:36 PM
The good news is that tomorrow the Obama administration is releasing a statement on the work being done by the Labor Department. The term “unemployment” will be stricken from all policy discussion and will henceforth be known as “future employment”.
He is scheduled to have a press conference in the Rose Garden with members of the “future employed” to exhibit how the policy shift has dramatically increased their self esteem.
ButterflyDragon on April 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM
I’d agree with SEN Lieberman as far as this being Orwellian. It’s an attempt at historical revisionism, as in “we’ve never been at war with Eastasia, Winston..” moment. If we divorce the connection with Islamic fundamentalism from our current struggle, then we undermine the origin of our current struggle to the detriment of actual counterterrorism.
ted c on April 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM
Excuse me Ed, but that’s very offensive. If you actually knew something about the Talmud you would know that there is very little in it that isn’t honest debate. The sages of the Talmud were intellectually honest – that’s what talmudic debate is all about, targeting attack questions on a position until a position is found that can withstand all challenges.
Though I’m not a scholar myself, I’m close to a number of rather advanced “talmudists” and you owe them an apology.
I realize that you’ve been influenced by a culture that regards traditional Judaism as legalistic and casuistry, but that culture’s views on Judaism are as biased as those of Islam.
rokemronnie on April 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
The Islamic terrorists are laughing all the way to the next Islamic terrorists bombing.
docdave on April 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Funny how Obama and the democrats have no problem calling American citizens Christian extremists.
Islam respects strength, power and force. Everything Obama is doing goes against what Muslims themselves say about Islam. Obama is on a dangerous course … emboldening radicals who only respect strength and courage.
They now see us as weakened, and much easier prey.
darwin on April 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
The enemy of Obama—Fox News and the majority of the American people.
mobydutch on April 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Related parody: CIA Encouraged by Latest Edition of Terrorist Style and Usage Manual http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/04/cia-intercepts-latest-edition-of.html
Mervis Winter on April 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Gee, wow! My self esteem has gone up already! lol!
Vntnrse on April 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Yeah, it’s bad.
How bad?
When your ‘allies’ start saying stuff like this.
CPT. Charles on April 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
I know it’s not quite the same since here there are terms of service that people voluntarily adhere to or move on or are asked to move on, but is there a little bit of irony considering how words like re.volution, or suckceed and discussions about those topics are forbidden here?
DrAllecon on April 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM
C’mon, Ed, Lieberman isn’t from the Left. Even though we made him our nominee for Vice President in 2000, he became a traitor to our party when he supported the war that Bush started with Bill Clinton’s intel info. So we had to throw him under the bus. He’s a liar and a fool.
/troll of your choice
Del Dolemonte on April 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM
It’s not merely Orwellian, it’s traitorous in that it confuses us as to who the enemy is, giving the enemy aid and comfort however slight.
Obooba lied on he form he filed to run for POTUS, answering no to the question, “Have you ever used another name?” I just threw that in gratuitously.
Akzed on April 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM
Bingo.
Dee2008 on April 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM
It panders to his base and makes it look like Barry is “accomplishing” something. Just like that ‘drilling for oil’ speech.
But then this is just what you can expect from an ‘empty suit’ with no managerial experience.
GarandFan on April 11, 2010 at 12:57 PM
That’s scary.
What do spoiled brats do when they can’t get their way? Drive everyone around them to distraction.
No matter what the consequences, he will double down again and again as the opposition stiffens.
Akzed on April 11, 2010 at 1:04 PM
The enemy of Obama—Fox News and the majority of the American people.
mobydutch on April 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM
mobydutch:Sounds about right to me!!:)
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Not insane, just evil.
Inanemergencydial on April 11, 2010 at 1:14 PM
My goodness, did you see the comments on that article on the CBS site? Deranged leftist thinking in the extreme. Ay yi yi.
To sum it up: Bush, Cheney (Dick AND Liz), and the Christian militia they just took down are the REAL murderous terrorists, blah blah blah.
I certainly have nothing positive to say about that militia group – though I wonder if these punks know about the political affiliation of the only member who seemed to have one, a Democrat – but they didn’t actually get around to killing anyone, did they? These people seem to think they’re worse than Al Qaeda.
Talk about crazy.
capitalist piglet on April 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM
I believe it goes even further. He wants to redefine the conflict itself, to effect moral equivalency with the “right wing extremists” Janet Napolitano was railing against last year. Can’t let the citizenry get too wee-weed up over the left side of the equation.
Barnestormer on April 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM
ISLAM – If Satan Led A Multitude –
POTUS, “Cant we all just get along?, Islam isn’t that perverted”. A statement or sentiment worthy of the liar in chief.
GD on April 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Whatever, Joe. He’s your guy, remember.
Jaibones on April 11, 2010 at 1:26 PM
I went to Mass this morning to pray for patience. Try to hit various churches according to the area I am working. The paience thing did not work well. Got up and left during the sermon by a priest telling me to obey Obama. Got up, walked out, and had this priest yelling at me. I’ll be speaking to the Archbishop tomorrow.
katy the mean old lady on April 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM
I believe it goes even further. He wants to redefine the conflict itself, to effect moral equivalency with the “right wing extremists” Janet Napolitano was railing against last year. Can’t let the citizenry get too wee-weed up over the left side of the equation.
Barnestormer on April 11, 2010 at 1:28 PM
fascinating pic of Ogabe and Lieberman.
Inanemergencydial on April 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Yeah, it’s bad.
How bad?
When your ‘allies’ start saying stuff like this.
CPT. Charles on April 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
CPT. Charles:Wow,remember this!!:)
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http://luckybogey.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/the-glare-michelle-obama-carla-bruni-sarkozy-glare-demotivational-poster-1244466818.jpg
canopfor on April 11, 2010 at 1:35 PM
The President is not afraid to insult , demean , and even provoke the faux conservatives in this country because he knows they are cowards . The repugnicans are as PC bound as the rest .
borntoraisehogs on April 11, 2010 at 1:36 PM
Grace brings hope and determination for life and peace. In wisdom man knows this is sought through prayer to GOD. Hosanna Father, Hosanna Father
GD on April 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Today’s Gallup:
Obama Approval: 45%
Obama Disapproval: 48%
Greyledge Gal on April 11, 2010 at 1:50 PM
We have always responded to man made disasters in this way.
Kafir on April 11, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Equating Talmudists with
is a factual slur against Talmudists.
The Talmudists spoke honestly and debated actual issues of importance to their times and the survival of the Jewish people over the centuries which followed. Obama’s rearrangement of the place cards on the dining tables of the Titanic is just the opposite of that, especially as far as the survival of the American people is concerned.
bgoldman on April 11, 2010 at 1:56 PM
Meanwhile Today’s Daily Kos Shangri-La:
Obama Favorable: 54%
Obama Unfavorable: 41%
Where does Dail Kos get their numbers? Out of their arse perhaps?
Basil Fawlty on April 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM
The path to GOD is the course the world is pre-destined to accomplish. By grace, a certain time of man is called to witness the end time (and the vessels chose shall accomplish the fore-ordained course). Man knows not the depth of separation between light and darkness, nor can he (it is the knowledge of GOD), man knows not the depth of his unworthiness. His wise course is to abandon self- righteousness and to accept light unto him in the form of commandment, in a covenant, in a gift of a creators love for his creation.
GD on April 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM
Truer words have never been spoke. The American people, and their way of life, the enemy of Obama. All his actions lead you to that single undeniable conclusion.
tarpon on April 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM
The (rhetorical) question is: will CAIR answer dishonestly, or just look at the answer in the mirror?
tgharris on April 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM
“I’m not sure I’d go as far as Orwellian,”
“We have always been at war with East Asia.”
Stephen Macklin on April 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM
November ’08 was a man-made disaster.
Mojave Mark on April 11, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Trust me, brother.
I remember.
CPT. Charles on April 11, 2010 at 2:23 PM
This makes sense if the president is a Muslim.
Labamigo on April 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Real jobs or snowjobs, Dems???
Leftys had a real problem when I asked that lately.
Word games? This is the kind of crap you get from the bubble brains in the bureaucratic/academic biz. Harvard and West Point guys can both go there.
Mitt Romney’s politics make me sick at times. So did W’s. But the former has an idea about business and the second some guts and a belief in simple right and wrong.
The One has a head problem. At the very least, it is empty and has no spine holding it up. He does have a heart, though and hates war and suffering. That is good but God help us if we need a war leader in there.
IlikedAUH2O on April 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM
They commission some “pollster” to do them. Can’t remember the name, but you can find it on the “non-partisan” Polling Report website, which happily carries Kos Polls while refusing to carry Rasmussen polls.
Del Dolemonte on April 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM
How doth the Obama crocodile
Spread it’s deceiving tale
And test the nation with it’s guile
On such a grand scale!
Cheshire Cat on April 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM
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