AP discovers that black tea party members exist

posted at 7:10 pm on April 6, 2010 by Allahpundit

Actually, the headline is “Black conservative tea party backers take heat,” which is a considerably more important angle. One purpose of the endless racial demagoguery of the right by the Frank Riches of the world is, of course, to make life hard for minorities who break with leftist orthodoxy. They’d never admit that, which is understandable, but they’re also rarely ever called on it, which isn’t. For all the media navel-gazing these days about how political rhetoric mainstreams hostility, the “race traitor” accusation that’s almost universally experienced by minority conservatives I know and that’s implicit in any grotesque caricature of tea partiers as some sort of neo-Klan rarely gets attention outside of right-wing media. And no wonder: It’s a fabulously effective form of intimidation.

They’ve been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement — and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation’s first black president.

“I’ve been told I hate myself. I’ve been called an Uncle Tom. I’ve been told I’m a spook at the door,” said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government…

Since Obama’s election, Webb said some black conservatives have even resorted to hiding their political views.

“I know of people who would play the (liberal) role publicly, but have their private opinions,” he said. “They don’t agree with the policy but they have to work, live and exist in the community … Why can’t we speak openly and honestly if we disagree?”

Why can’t you speak openly? Because the New York Times op-ed page is telling its readers that you’re complicit in a new Kristallnacht. Be grateful you can walk down the street without being harassed by the Forces of Tolerance.

Follow the link up top for a surreal scene in which a black tea-party candidate cleans up in donations at a bar where the Confederate flag is mounted on the wall. Here’s a new clip from Zo sharing some fan mail he received recently expressing “appreciation” for his ideological diversity.

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One purpose of the endless racial demagoguery of the right by the Frank Riches of the world is, of course, to make life hard for minorities who break with leftist orthodoxy.

I think it’s the primary purpose, and it’s evil.

the_nile on April 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Tolerance a sight to behold.

heshtesh on April 6, 2010 at 7:15 PM

What does the media expect when they establish a theme which runs perpendicular to reality? Sadly, the teapartiers of ALL races have to swim upstream against this.

Tokyo Times on April 6, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Meanwhile Steven Cohen is refusing to back down with his critisisms of Tea Party

http://tinyurl.com/yk5sqfo

William Amos on April 6, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Clearly…..these black tea party are just GOP diversity plants.

And look at that violent looking snake thing she has on her t-shirt!!

Obviously a Uncle Tom thingy going on.

PappyD61 on April 6, 2010 at 7:16 PM

the nation’s first black president.

Why does he have to be a ‘black President’? Why can’t he just be a President? (ignore the fact he is ineligible to be POTUS for a moment)

This is nothing short of racism. Do these people also call their melanin blessed friends as ‘black friends’?

RAAAAAACIIIIISTS!

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM

The Racism of the Democrat party is epic and generational.

The irony is, the black democrats who point out and mock conservative blacks as “Uncle Toms”, do so with their feet firmly on plantations that they chose to shackle themselves too called the “DNC”.

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM

” … Why can’t we speak openly and honestly if we disagree.”

Because Liberal Democrats are racists…

… Thank you for asking.

Seven Percent Solution on April 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM

I love it! Why shouldn’t they? They are Americans, love this country and best of all…are smart and strong enough to realize that the LEFT hates them, uses them and thinks that they are dumb.

Bully for all the FREE THINKERS who are tough enough not to fall in line with conventionality! And know who the good guys are!

Gob on April 6, 2010 at 7:19 PM

Seems tolerance is a one way street in Lib-land.

Exit question: Would it be racist if a black liberal called a black tea party member the “N” word?

BacaDog on April 6, 2010 at 7:19 PM

Fantastic choice for the picture AP! She is an awesome lady.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Zo is obviously a member of the Klan. Oops! No, that would be Senator Byrd, wouldn’t it?

GarandFan on April 6, 2010 at 7:20 PM

And wurd….wat up wit dat whole “Black Conservative” schtick?

These people are just misguided and not down wit da struggle.

Burning crosses outside black members of Congress (all perptuated by the left) in 5……..4………3…..

PappyD61 on April 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM

I wish J.C. Watts would move to Tennessee and oust Corker in 2012. It would happen.

ladyingray on April 6, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Zo is really a fine courageous person, one that I would gladly call my friend.

docdave on April 6, 2010 at 7:24 PM

…the mostly white tea party movement

They can’t help themselves, can they?

I went to a sporting event the other day with a mostly white crowd, and I visited the park and grocery store – mostly white there too. Went to a local Twp supervisors meeting too – mostly white. Stopped at a rest area off the highway – mostly white

forest on April 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Paging Tim ‘cold chill’ Robbins to the white courtesy phone, Tim ‘cold chill’ Robbins please go to the white courtesy telephone.

jukin on April 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM

What’s an AP? I took some AP classes in HS; does that make me an AP? I thought AP wrote for this site; I don’t wanna be that kind AP. That kinda AP don’t dig no uppity womens like tha’ SP. I likes me some SP; I’ll sit up an’ sing some ABC’s for some SP.

But what’s an AP?

Doorgunner on April 6, 2010 at 7:26 PM

I visited congress, it was mostly white…

daesleeper on April 6, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Portlandon…….you hit da nail on tha head.

(Unfortunately)…..the African American community is still serving and slaving……..to the plantation called the DNC!!!!

So sad !!!!!!

PappyD61 on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Its too bad they have to endure the name calling because they are conservative and black. Oh but lets not fool ourselves, we all know that the dems are the tolerant party. /sarc

jbh45 on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

black tea party members

Black Tea
Pekoe Tea
Bubblin’ Crude
Black Gold
Texas Tea

… next thing ya know, old Jed’s a millionaire!

singlemalt_18 on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Follow the link up top for a surreal scene in which a black tea-party candidate cleans up in donations at a bar where the Confederate flag is mounted on the wall.

And….we’ve entered the Twighlight Zone.

amerpundit on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

It’s really sad that those who scream racist the loudest, are the perpetrators for it’s continuation.

We can’t we consider ourselves Americans first? Then the rest is just unnecessary. It’s truly sad that people can’t be who they are, think what they want, and believe what they believe….without it resorting into race, or being a traitor.

If someone thinks for themselves, and believes a certain way…more power to them. And those that would persecute them for that…..karma can be a real b!tch sometimes.

capejasmine on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Exit question: Would it be racist if a black liberal called a black tea party member the “N” word?

BacaDog on April 6, 2010 at 7:19 PM

It is never racism to attack a minority that leans to the right. Ted Rall called Condi a ‘house n-word’ and it was accepted and repeated often by the left.

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:28 PM

It’s absolutely disgusting.

amerpundit on April 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM

As Ace reminded everyone, the Tea Party is “mostly white” (79%) in the same way that America is “mostly white” (76%).

Lehosh on April 6, 2010 at 7:30 PM

OT trouble: Patty Murray “death threats”

Mary in LA on April 6, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Oh, and

Follow the link up top for a surreal scene in which a black tea-party candidate cleans up in donations at a bar where the Confederate flag is mounted on the wall.

Northerners don’t seem to grasp this, but the Confederate Flag does not automatically equal KKK for rural people.

Lehosh on April 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM

It’s been fairly obvious that one motivation for accusing the Tea Party of racism has been to discourage minorities from joining it. First by making them afraid of Tea Parties, who wants to join a movement where everyone else will hate them, and then to ostracize those who go anyway via guilt by association.

Rip Ford on April 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM

the nation’s first black president.

Why does he have to be a ‘black President’? Why can’t he just be a President? (ignore the fact he is ineligible to be POTUS for a moment)

This is nothing short of racism. Do these people also call their melanin blessed friends as ‘black friends’?

RAAAAAACIIIIISTS!

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM

It’s massive Leftist racial guilt, of course. Many Democrats, especially in the FDR era and later on, were raised by their parents to consider blacks as inferior. They weren’t necessarily taught to hate blacks, just to avoid them.

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM

OK, slightly O/T, but I loved the ‘Zo video and I got to wondering about Steven Crowder. Does anyone know where he has been lately or what he’s up to? I miss his funny videos.

JohnInCA on April 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM

They weren’t necessarily taught to hate blacks, just to avoid pander to them.

FIFY

BacaDog on April 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM

I am so done with this crap. They can take their p0rnographic view of skin color and shove it. Filthy racists – they make me sick.

I have a new policy which I started last year when President Mutt did his Cambridge Cop Sliming Trick. Anyone who says ANYTHING about this Indonesian Imbecile being picked on because of race gets my response right back in his/her face:

“You are a racist and you offend me. If you ever talk to me like that again, you will be a filthy racist and I will never speak to you again.”

Yep, I don’t give a d@mn about their poor widdle feelings.

platypus on April 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Ted Rall called Condi a ‘house n-word’ and it was accepted and repeated often by the left.

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Same with Harry Belafonte, who called War Criminal Colon Powell an Uncle Tom.

The racist Leftists happily ran with that one for years and years, until Colon got his War Crimes charges mysteriously dropped after endorsing the Cool Guy from Kenya in 2008.

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Why does he have to be a ‘black President’? Why can’t he just be a President?

One reason is that Obama checked the box for Black on his Census form.

Mr Purple on April 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Other than that, I don’t care if a man is purple. . .oh, wait.

Emperor Norton on April 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM

JohninCA, Crowder was on the Glenn Beck show the other day, helping MC a program with audience questions. I guess he got a job with Fox?

juliesa on April 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Man I love Zo

Gatsu on April 6, 2010 at 7:41 PM

I can’t imagine disliking anyone enough to say the things these people have to put up with. And how is it helpful?

Cindy Munford on April 6, 2010 at 7:42 PM

They weren’t necessarily taught to hate blacks, just to avoid pander to them.

FIFY

BacaDog on April 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM

The pandering came a little later, when the massive guilt kicked in in the JFK and LBJ days. Of course, Lyndon (Democrat-TX) still called them the N-word behind closed doors.

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Hilary Shelton, director of the Washington bureau of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, suggested a bit of caution.

“I’m sure the reason that (black conservatives) are involved is that from an ideological perspective, they agree,” said Shelton. “But when those kinds of things happen, it is very important to be careful of the company that you keep.”

Spoken like the true concern-troll that she is.

AUINSC on April 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Right on Zo. They hate free-thinking Christian Conservatives of any color, but people of color give them an excuse to spew their inherent racial hatred.

infidel4life on April 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM

JohnInCA on April 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM

He helped Glenn Beck on his live “Ask Glenn” show last week.

Cindy Munford on April 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM

I visited congress, it was mostly white…

daesleeper on April 6, 2010 at 7:26 PM

And I watched the MSNBC prime time line-up, mostly white……

ThePrez on April 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM

I can’t wait to hear Tingles Matthews’ take on this. Oh wait… yes I can. At least until someone posts it online, at any rate.

hillbillyjim on April 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Fiscal sanity is not a racial issue.

And those letters ‘Zo got? Sickening!

Sekhmet on April 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM

I met Angela McGlowan this past weekend at a Tea Party rally. She is a very impressive candidate.

d1carter on April 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM

On the subject of where Steven Crowder has been, he posted the following on his Facebook page:

Sorry for the lack of videos folks. Contract disputes, personal tragedies and some necessary transitions have kept me busy. Expect everything to be back and running by April!

Rip Ford on April 6, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Follow the link up top for a surreal scene in which a black tea-party candidate cleans up in donations at a bar where the Confederate flag is mounted on the wall.

You really ought to try to get out of NYC once in a while.

hillbillyjim on April 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Glenn Beck did an hour with black conservatives….

TIVO it…….you will miss great moments……….

nondhimmie on April 6, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Uncle Tom.

That’s what the racist left would say.

CurtZHP on April 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM

The AJC is to liberal newspapers what Babe Ruth is to fat baseball players who hit lots of home runs.

You read the NY Times and think, wow a newspaper can’t get any more slanted than this. Then you read a couple of paragraphs of an AJC story and think to yourself, hmmm the NY Times is kinda balanced after all.

angryed on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Portlandon…….you hit da nail on tha head.

(Unfortunately)…..the African American community is still serving and slaving……..to the plantation called the DNC!!!!

So sad !!!!!!

PappyD61 on April 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM

See…as a black male who leans left, that offends me. How dare you compare a political party to a plantation, or black people to slaves because of the way they vote? I know Hot Air members think it’s cute to use that particular metaphor when speaking about liberal minorities, but it is truly offensive and inappropriate. Slavery was a horrific time in our nation’s history and should never be used as analogy for political purposes, unless the DNC starts, raping,beating,and murdering blacks…literally. I respect the fact that their are black tea party members…why wouldn’t I? We are a diverse group of people like EVERYBODY else in this great country. However, people tend to use that as some sort of ammunition against liberal blacks, like we are all dumb, and self-made “slaves”. Isn’t calling liberal blacks slaves, the same thing as a liberal black calling conservative blacks Uncle Toms? Hypocrisy?

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

PLANTATIONISM: Belittling conservative people of color.

PLANTATIONIST: One who belittles conservative people of color.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 6, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement

It’s mostly white, like MSNBC, so it must be evil.

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:17 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Metaphor. Look it up.

angryed on April 6, 2010 at 8:18 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

It may be offensive to you, but not to blacks like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Maybe you should broaden your horizon and invest in some of their books?

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Metaphor. Look it up.

angryed on April 6, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Oh brother…Sorry Merriam-Webster…care to add anything of value to the discussion, or would you care to pick apart the errors in my post? This is a blog site. As far as complete sentences go, you should really “look it up”. Do you see how easy that is for one to do?

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM

” … for having the audacity to …”

Wait a minute -

I thought audacity was a good thing in Obamaspeak.

dissent555 on April 6, 2010 at 8:29 PM

It may be offensive to you, but not to blacks like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Maybe you should broaden your horizon and invest in some of their books?

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM

lol! Thomas Sowell? Who is this Thomas Sowell you speak of? LOL! He’s not underground…you know this right? Maybe you need to quit assuming that I don’t read…broaden your horizons, or put a cease to your ignorant assumptions.

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM

He’s apparently unknown to you. How many of his books have you read? He used to be a Marxist, you know, so maybe there’s hope for you.

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM

I’m surprised that they didn’t just start calling anyone that’s not a white Tea Partier an “off-white” racist. Anything but white doesn’t fit in the AP’s predetermined storyline.

Tuari on April 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM

StoneKrab sooo tasty…

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Perhaps it is not the injustice of enslavement past, but the worries of its future presence. Centinal spoke of such during the founding, and it is of worry to us now:

But as it is by comparison only that men estimate the value of any good, they are not sensible of the worth of those blessings they enjoy, until they are deprived of them; hence from ignorance of the horrors of slavery, nations, that have been in possession of that rarest of blessings, liberty, have so easily parted with it: when groaning under the yoke of tyranny what perils would they not encounter, what consideration would they not give to regain the inestimable jewel they had lost; but the jealousy of despotism guards every avenue to freedom, and confirms its empire at the expence of the devoted people, whose property is made instrumental to their misery, for the rapacious hand of power seizes upon every thing; dispair presently succeeds, and every noble faculty of the mind being depressed, and all motive to industry and exertion being removed, the people are adapted to the nature of government, and drag out a listless existence.

If ever America should be enslaved it will be from this cause, that they are not sensible of their peculiar felicity, that they are not aware of the value of the heavenly boon, committed to their care and protection, and if the present conspiracy fails, as I have no doubt will be the case, it will be the triumph of reason and philosophy, as these United States have never felt the iron hand of power, or experienced the wretchedness of slavery.

It is not the impugning for me to speak of, but that on our present course the hand of mighty government is seeking to strangle who we are, together, as a people. It is not as a people of one color, but of one Nation devoted to liberty and freedom for all so that we may not suffer from our government which is an injustice far greater than any other as we will have created the means of our own diminishment. Devotion to party, when placed above country, comes to no good end as partisanship elevated to the National level is destructive to those not partaking of it. Drink deeply of partisanship and you begin to distrust your fellow man if he does not follow your partisan ways. That is a disuniting factor amongst the people and when backed by the power of the Nation State it can and does rend liberty asunder.

The plantation past we should all remember and castigate.

Then we are to walk from it and see its awful form and ensure we do not make it larger and anew to encompass us all. That will come to no good end at all no matter your race, creed, ideology or religion, for the Nation as enslaving vehicle is far, far more horrific than anything we can imagine. For that is when we have lost our felicity to our liberty and the good grace of those whose shoulders we stand upon, by placing ourselves under the boot of tyranny telling ourselves how good it will feel to have that continually in our face so we need not make any decisions for ourselves ever again.

ajacksonian on April 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM

The Israelites complained to Moses about how easy they had it as Pharaoh’s slaves, Numbers 11:5. So there must be something to the plantation mentality.

Akzed on April 6, 2010 at 8:53 PM

See…as a black male who leans left, that offends me. How dare you compare a political party to a plantation, or black people to slaves because of the way they vote?

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I am a person of color. How dare you question my right to use metaphors that the liberal left uses against me all the time.

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM

However, people tend to use that as some sort of ammunition against liberal blacks, like we are all dumb,

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I think you struck on what the liberal elites think and probably all elites for that matter. They think we are all dumb, no matter skin color. Now, maybe you are offended by that or maybe not but you should be. I have not read all the posts from above but maybe some are generalizing as 90% of the black vote went to Obama and he still has soaring approval ratings now in the black community. I am not sure of the regular percentage that always votes Democratic but it is in the high 80`s I am sure. No other group, to my knowledge, votes in a block like that on a regular basis. Was his post worded badly for your taste maybe but here is what used to be great about this country, everyone has a right to be offended and then discuss it or not. In my time on this blog I have found that most here will not tolerate a real racist and will call them out immediately. I have also found that, like many in this country, people are tired of others pulling out race to silence opposition. I think you went a bit far in mentioning hotair members in a blanket statement.

bluemarlin on April 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Follow the link up top for a surreal scene in which a black tea-party candidate cleans up in donations at a bar where the Confederate flag is mounted on the wall.

You really ought to try to get out of NYC once in a while.

hillbillyjim on April 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM

I agree.

ladyingray on April 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM

See…as a black male who leans left, that offends me. How dare you compare a political party to a plantation, or black people to slaves because of the way they vote?

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I am a person of color. How dare you question my right to use metaphors that the liberal left uses against me all the time.

See, I can play the offense card too. Am I an Oreo now?

The “plantation” metaphor has been used by black democrats, and race baiters like Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton for years. Yet when I (a person of color who is conservative) it offends you?

Please.

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 9:04 PM

My brain must be fried from too much homework – where’s the video?

Mynuet on April 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM

StoneKrab:
Thick skin, get some.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Wow, I never knew you were a person of color and you and I have been around since the beginning. That is a testament to you. Kudos.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM

OK, slightly O/T, but I loved the ‘Zo video and I got to wondering about Steven Crowder. Does anyone know where he has been lately or what he’s up to? I miss his funny videos.

JohnInCA on April 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM

He was on Glenn Beck’s show last week.

disa on April 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM

WOOHOO! Is this gonna be a knock-down, dirty nasty racial brawl on HotAir?

disa on April 6, 2010 at 9:24 PM

I visited congress, it was mostly white…

daesleeper on April 6, 2010 at 7:26 PM
And I watched the MSNBC prime time line-up, mostly white……

ThePrez on April 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM

I saw Barrack Hussien Pinnochio Obama lyin again , mostly white!

dhunter on April 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Wow, I never knew you were a person of color and you and I have been around since the beginning. That is a testament to you. Kudos.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM

I have run into racists of all colors, but the most evil and condescending are blacks who completely want nothing to do with you once they know you are conservative (or that my wife is white).

I get the “uncle tom” this and they call me “Tobey”. They are vile and offensive.

All of Dr Kings’ & other equality movement pioneers were all undermined by the democratic party. They got the Black community hooked on Welfare, and destroyed generations of hard work by people of Color who struggled hard to get ahead only to have the rug pulled out from under them. The liberals patted us on the head and said “good. You vote for us and we’ll make sure to give you equality”. This equality turned out to be the chains of cradle to grave entitlements.

LBJ’s Great Society. What a big Lie.

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM

I more than welcome people of all ethnicities to the Tea-Parties. My first was in Annapolis, it was a cold rainy day on the city docks, the same docks that Arthur Haley claims that Kunta Kintay was auctioned on. This time it was April 15, 2009. A Black Marine Captain, Academy grad, lectured us about what it means to be an American, and what it means to him. We were wet, we were cold, and this man ROCKED THE CROWD! He told us his story, what his daughters ask him, what his answers are, and that to keep being free, we need to fight for it. He closed by saying that he wanted to sit down and have a beer with each one of us, we were as he is, American.

People like this inspire me, I take comfort from them, I don’t care what color their skin is, they simply want to be known as American, no hyphens. We have Americans from every part of the globe that want only one thing, to be American. These are who we want to immigrate to this nation, those that wish to be a part of us, I know, RACIST!

I went to the 9/12 rally, awesome event, why won’t they listen? Do they not care? I know the answer, but ask the question anyway. What will it take for them to listen? Why are they trying to curb the first, second, fourth, and tenth?

We need to replace these people with Doctors, Mechanics, Teachers(non union), Accountants, Business owners, Factory Workers (non union),Sargent’s, Corporals, Generals, and Indian Chiefs… NO LAWYERS! WE can fix this…

M-14 2go on April 6, 2010 at 9:31 PM

My parents are very good friends with a black couple, to the point where they travel together and dine out together fairly often. The black man is a casino executive and was based in Vegas for many years. Ten years ago, he was sent to MS to work.

He was nervous about the idea at first, having heard many bad things about the South and racism. After six years here, he had an entirely different viewpoint. Then he was sent to Detroit for two years. He called my dad, telling him ‘I really miss MS. You would not believe the racism that exists here in MI. I now consider MS my home.’

After less than two years in Detroit, he resigned his job and moved back to MS, where he and his family still live.

I tell this story to highlight the falsehood of the racial South, and the stereotypes that persist.

GnuBreed on April 6, 2010 at 9:45 PM

portlandon on April 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM

You, sir, are my new hero.

My theory is that race has evolved from being about color and is more about attitude. Clarence Thomas is the apex of conservatism in my view. His attitude is so refreshing in that he never, ever (that I know of) brings up the color of his skin, only the passion of his values. I believe the liberals have kept race and race issues in the narrative to meet their agenda. It makes me very content to know that people like you are on our side.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Same thing happens with us gays.

I get shit all the time for my pro-conservative, pro-Palin views. Luckily, I’m an HBIC and “let it be known” and it knocks off right quick.

Doesn’t go over too well in the dating world, though.

lansing quaker on April 6, 2010 at 9:47 PM

We need to replace these people with Doctors, Mechanics, Teachers(non union), Accountants, Business owners, Factory Workers (non union),Sargent’s, Corporals, Generals, and Indian Chiefs… NO LAWYERS! WE can fix this…

M-14 2go on April 6, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Second that, plus send them to serve for 6 months then 6 months home to live and work in their communities.
Limit their terms to two and take away their healthcare and reduce their pensions.
Civil Servants not Lords and masters!

dhunter on April 6, 2010 at 9:47 PM

This minority member says Zo speaks the truth.

princetrumpet on April 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM

I’m an HBIC

- Lansing Quaker
What does that entail?
And kudos to you as well. I’m learning some great things from fellow HA people tonight.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 10:02 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010

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Interesting you cannot post regarding the main point of this post. You are a tool. Just admit it.

CWforFreedom on April 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM

- Lansing Quaker
What does that entail?
And kudos to you as well. I’m learning some great things from fellow HA people tonight.

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 10:02 PM

“Head B**ch In Charge”

And thanks.

lansing quaker on April 6, 2010 at 10:16 PM

StoneKrab on April 6, 2010

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Interesting you cannot post regarding the main point of this post. You are a tool. Just admit it.

CWforFreedom on April 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM

I did not see him return after that particular hit and run. There were certainly plenty of people that replied to him.

bluemarlin on April 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM

“Head B**ch In Charge”

And thanks.

lansing quaker on April 6, 2010 at 10:16 PM

LOL
You are welcome!

carbon_footprint on April 6, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Well. That was depressing.

Tanya on April 6, 2010 at 11:15 PM

I don’t hide. I am what I am, and nobody is going to make me mouth a philosophy I don’t believe, especially not to get along with the pack. The black community needs to stop functioning like mindless automatons.

SilentWatcher on April 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Lots of us exist. I spoke on Glenn Beck’s show, the one which profiled black conservatives.

The left can keep on trying to use the tried and tested strategy of divide and conquer to make people of color feel they have no home but the Democrat party, in 2010 we shall prove them wrong once and for all…

Great Sage on April 6, 2010 at 11:28 PM

first time poster here.

i am black. or as some would say “African American”.

i am also a Conservative. and a supporter of the Tea Party movement.

i agree that it’s a shame that i have to think twice about wearing anti-Obama tees because somebody here in the ‘hood is going to throw a tantrum. perhaps even shoot me.

i don’t espouse my views at work because politics don’t belong in the work place.
but away from work i should be free to bash Otard the way Bush was bashed…without fear of being verbal acosted.

Dr. Magic on April 6, 2010 at 11:39 PM

Northerners don’t seem to grasp this, but the Confederate Flag does not automatically equal KKK for rural people.

Lehosh on April 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM

My experience almost 30 years ago w/ a flyer of the Stars and Bars.

baldilocks on April 7, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Hmm, I think we have discovered Associated Press actually engaging in a random act of journalism.

Hawthorne on April 7, 2010 at 1:29 AM

See…as a black male who leans left, that offends me. How dare you compare a political party to a plantation, or black people to slaves because of the way they vote? I know Hot Air members think it’s cute to use that particular metaphor when speaking about liberal minorities, but it is truly offensive and inappropriate. -StoneKrab

A political party is a collection of people who seek to control the apparatus of government for particular ends. If one of those ends is to organize society along the economic model of a plantation, then don’t be surprised that the comparison is made between the party and what the party is in essence advocating. The Democratic party no longer agitates for race based plantations, to be sure, but a plantation mentality lurks beneath the surface.

A plantation is in essence a mini-state, run by a managerial elite. The economic strategy of this mini-state is to confiscate by force the “fruits of labor” of the denizens of the plantation, and then have the managerial elite redistribute them back to the community according to needs as determined by that same managerial elite, with the elite keeping the lion’s share for themselves. You focus on the violence of the plantation to differentiate it from the state that would emerge from leftist policies, but again, think about it — that type of violence, too, is a feature of any state. Indeed, it is arguably the central feature of a state. What is a state, after all? A monopoly of force, i.e. the threat of violence. If you don’t do what the state wants, e.g. you decide not to pay your taxes like Wesley Snipes, then men with guns show up. If you resist the will of these men, they beat the crap out of you with batons — just like on a plantation. Ah, you say. The state is about more than just violence. It administers social programs to “help” people. Yes, but so did the plantation. The plantation provided medical care, food, lodging, etc. (Not education, interestingly, because that would endanger the whole enterprise.) The plantation owners justified their power over others by arguing that their charges were incapable of fending on their own, that they needed to be managed by an elite, that this really was the best of all possible systems for such people. The rationalizations of plantation owners are quite the same as those of people who advocate an overweening central state authority with themselves in charge. By judicious usage of largesse, the plantation owner wouldn’t even have to resort to violence. Even those exploited by the arrangement didn’t necessarily hate it. (After the civil war, many freed slaves voluntarily went back to live with their owners. They had internalized the mentality of the plantation.)

As another example, we tend to think of Sicilian La Cosa Nostra families as “the mob”, a very bad thing totally unrelated to the state, which we think of as a good thing. But in Sicily, these families functioned as a state. You paid tribute to the capo of your family (taxes), and in return he would protect you from outside interference (law enforcement). You did favors for the capo (campaign, vote), and in turn he would look after you (entitlements), but if you challenged his authority, he would punish you. John Gotti operated this way. The Chicago machine operates this way, too. Rod Blagojevich operated this way.

La Cosa Nostra, plantations, political parties, and states are not unrelated phenomena.

When Democratic bigwigs imagine the ideal society, what do they see? A benevolent elite taking care of people too stupid to take care of themselves and meting out punishment and reward to people according to their deserts and forcing everyone under them to participate in this arrangement whether they want to or not. This is not too far off from the vision of the capo or the plantation owner.
Exit questions: What is the practical difference between chattel slavery and a compulsory system of 100% taxation? And what was the Soviet Union but a plantation spanning half the globe?

shazbat on April 7, 2010 at 2:50 AM

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