New Obama policy: No nuke retaliation for bio or chemical attack?

posted at 9:57 pm on April 5, 2010 by Allahpundit

Drudge’s breathless red-font headline: “NO NUKES: EVEN IN SELF-DEFENSE!” As I read the story, though, the new policy still leaves open the possibility that we might initiate a nuclear exchange. It all depends on whether the target country has nukes of its own and whether it’s in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Let’s explore the nuance.

It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the Cold War. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack

White House officials said that the new strategy will leave open the option of reconsidering the use of nuclear retaliation against a biological attack, if the development of such weapons reaches a level that makes United States vulnerable to a devastating strike.

Mr. Obama’s new strategy is bound to be controversial, both among conservatives who have warned against diluting America’s most potent deterrent, and among liberals who were hoping for a blanket statement that America would never be the first to use nuclear weapons.

Unless I’ve misunderstood, we reserve the right to nuke the following, whether in self-defense or otherwise: (1) nuclear states, (2) non-nuclear states that are in violation of the NPT (i.e. Iran), (3) non-nuclear states that attack the U.S. with bioweapons, but only if they possess a stockpile large enough to pose a risk of a “devastating strike.” I hope I’ve misunderstood that last one; the idea of Obama explaining to Americans that, yes, 50,000 people may be dead of smallpox but we can’t nuke country X because they don’t have a big enough stockpile of the virus yet is dark comedy gold.

The idea here, of course, is deterrence — comply with the NPT and you have nothing to fear — but (a) no one, least of all Iran, thinks Barack Obama’s going to use nuclear weapons against targets inside a non-nuclear state whether it’s following the NPT or not, and (b) everyone, including Iran, understands that a devastating attack on the U.S. by whatever means will create such unbearable pressure on the president to retaliate that these rules will be revisited instantly. It’s the nuclear equivalent of his interrogation protocol, essentially. America does not and will not torture captured terrorists as a matter of national policy — but if the CIA really, truly believed that a bomb was about to go off somewhere, don’t be surprised to see that policy politely ignored, to great public acclaim for Obama afterwards for having done what he needed to do to try to get the information.

All this is, really, is a symbolic gesture of good faith to put pressure on Russia and China to reduce their own stockpiles. Why we think they can be trusted to do that, especially when the United States is handing them a tactical advantage by reducing its own stockpiles unilaterally, is beyond me. But then it’s also beyond me why Obama would suspend development on any new forms of nuclear weapons, which the new policy also demands. New weapons, I assume, would be smaller and more precise, in the bunker-buster mold; there’s certainly no pressing need for state-of-the-art 100-megaton monsters when the chief nuclear threat at the moment comes from small non-state groups like Al Qaeda.

Exit question one: In limiting the nuclear deterrent to nuclear weapons (and, in certain cases, biological attacks) instead of WMD generally, doesn’t this create an incentive to focus on developing bio and chemical weapons? In most cases those are less dangerous than nukes, but nukes are also harder to develop and more easy to monitor. Do we really want tomorrow’s A.Q. Khans focusing on smallpox instead? Exit question two: If the point here is to raise the taboo on using nuclear weapons, doesn’t that actually make them more enticing for jihadi fanatics?

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Well,I guess this won`t happen under Obama`s watch!!
=========================================================
Last update – 08:09 18/03/2007
U.S., IDF hold joint exercise on response to nuclear
attack
By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent
—————————————-

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/838752.html

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM

“What are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?!”

– Frost

*ironically, Frost would meet his end with many of his mates – after they had just been ordered to disarm themselves. Funny how the aliens didn’t care that their nest was located right under the primary heat exchangers…*

catmman on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Remember this???

IrishTexan on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM

If we had a functioning GOP we could make good use of this idiotic strategy.

Mr. Arrogant on April 5, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Arrgh. What happened to the link…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtwRcZXrz0k

IrishTexan on April 5, 2010 at 10:43 PM

It’s a good thing Obama doesn’t stop by here to answer exit questions.

We’d be here all night.

This must be one of those things that we just don’t understand because of all the misinformation and misapprehension.

SlaveDog on April 5, 2010 at 10:43 PM

“What are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?!”

– Frost

*ironically, Frost would meet his end with many of his mates – after they had just been ordered to disarm themselves. Funny how the aliens didn’t care that their nest was located right under the primary heat exchangers…*

catmman on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Long as racial, ethnic, sexist, or homophobic terms aren’t available. You know–limiting the verbal ‘nuclear option’.

Liam on April 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM

good times….good times…

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Hasn’t been said in a while….FUBO.

ElectricPhase on April 5, 2010 at 10:45 PM

While Chairman ObaMao may be patting himself on the back as he visualizes “whirled peas,” I see a number of hostile nations building their arms and flexing their muscles.

onlineanalyst on April 5, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Hans Brix!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 5, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac: Yup,*sigh*,don`t know whether to laugh or
cry!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:46 PM

The FallOut of Hopeys Demise!!

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:47 PM

…..”to preserve, protect and DEFEND the Constitution of the United States”

That’s the oath. Is he in violation of it?

PappyD61 on April 5, 2010 at 10:48 PM

God loves his children.
He is looking over and protecting our nation.
As long as we ask His mercy, we will receive it.

carbon_footprint on April 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Hasn’t been said in a while….FUBO.

ElectricPhase on April 5, 2010 at 10:45 PM

ElectricPhase: Thats FU BO The Fallout Clown,and his 3 Ring
Multiple-Burst Circus!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM

That’s the oath. Is he in violation of it?

PappyD61 on April 5, 2010 at 10:48 PM

PappyD61:I`m not a rocket engineer,however,YES!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Hans Brix!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 5, 2010 at 10:36 PM

+2 for the Team America reference.

That’s a big effin deal.

ted c on April 5, 2010 at 10:51 PM

fallout shelters, making a comeback

ted c on April 5, 2010 at 10:52 PM

In the same week our alleged leader is signing a Treaty to cut a third of our primary strategic weapons and revising their use to deny their employment in a direct attack. Any premise that this alleged leader is working in our interest is now clear. We would be better served if Castro was in the White House; at least he would be honest!

IntheNet on April 5, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Which part of the presidential oath of office is Obama actually following?

IntheNet on April 5, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Arrgh. What happened to the link…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtwRcZXrz0k

IrishTexan on April 5, 2010 at 10:43

IrishTexan: Excellent Intel work,that video is a keeper,
and says it all,too bad,nobody thought he would
make it past HilRod in the Lib Primaries!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:55 PM

Now see if I was the king lib in charge, I’d be tempted to bring all the troops home and let the world know that I carry the help button with me wherever I go and that I would without warning play pop goes the weasel with any knot heads that didn’t play nice in the the sandbox.

Knot heads being defined as anyone who does see, ‘be reasonable do it my way’ or buh bye.

Guess its a good thing I’m not king lib huh?

Speakup on April 5, 2010 at 10:58 PM

+2 for the Team America reference.

That’s a big effin deal.

ted c on April 5, 2010 at 10:51 PM

ted c: Amen to that!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Time’s up for this POS.

BottomLine5 on April 5, 2010 at 10:59 PM

God loves his children.
He is looking over and protecting our nation.
As long as we ask His mercy, we will receive it.

carbon_footprint on April 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM

You can mention that on your form 1040.

Speakup on April 5, 2010 at 11:00 PM

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM
————————–
good times….good times…

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM

cmsinaz: I remember Bush saying,not in his exact words,after
9/11,that any country that got stupid,would be vap
ourized!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 11:01 PM

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 11:01 PM

right on, right on, right on…

he’s just lost even more respect for himself and the US…they are laughing their buts off

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 11:04 PM

As I understand it we have long held that a chemical warhead is a biological weapon, is a nuke.

We don’t use the first 2, so if someone used them against us we respond with a nuke.

Now that granted, the idea that we don’t use nukes against non-nuclear nations is just confirming long standing policy. And since it implies that we will use nukes against nuclear enemies I think it might be a threat.

Maybe…

Sackett on April 5, 2010 at 11:05 PM

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 11:01 PM
—————
right on, right on, right on…

he’s just lost even more respect for himself and the US…they are laughing their buts off

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 11:04 PM

cmsinaz: Not for F $/?%&?%?&%& king long!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 11:07 PM

And they said it couldn’t happen here…..
Need I remind you that it has happened here?

nazo311 on April 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM

It’s like Dr. Strangelove in reverse.

keep the change on April 5, 2010 at 11:09 PM

cmsinaz: Not for F $/?%&?%?&%& king long!!:)

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 11:07 PM

i hope :)

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Another day, another swing of the wrecking ball on America.

mobydutch on April 5, 2010 at 11:10 PM

He is a wrecking ball. He’s breaking down to the foundation.

johnnyU on April 5, 2010 at 11:14 PM

New Obama policy: No nuke retaliation for bio or chemical attack?posted at 9:57 pm on April 5, 2010 by Allahpundit
Share on Facebook | printer-friendly Drudge’s breathless red-font headline: “NO NUKES: EVEN IN SELF-DEFENSE!” As I read the story, though, the new policy still leaves open the possibility that we might initiate a nuclear exchange. It all depends on whether the target country has nukes of its own and whether it’s in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
Let’s explore the nuance.
It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the Cold War. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack…
White House officials said that the new strategy will leave open the option of reconsidering the use of nuclear retaliation against a biological attack, if the development of such weapons reaches a level that makes United States vulnerable to a devastating strike.
Mr. Obama’s new strategy is bound to be controversial, both among conservatives who have warned against diluting America’s most potent deterrent, and among liberals who were hoping for a blanket statement that America would never be the first to use nuclear weapons.
Unless I’ve misunderstood, we reserve the right to nuke the following, whether in self-defense or otherwise: (1) nuclear states, (2) non-nuclear states that are in violation of the NPT (i.e. Iran), (3) non-nuclear states that attack the U.S. with bioweapons, but only if they possess a stockpile large enough to pose a risk of a “devastating strike.” I hope I’ve misunderstood that last one; the idea of Obama explaining to Americans that, yes, 50,000 people may be dead of smallpox but we can’t nuke country X because they don’t have a big enough stockpile of the virus yet is dark comedy gold.
The idea here, of course, is deterrence — comply with the NPT and you have nothing to fear — but (a) no one, least of all Iran, thinks Barack Obama’s going to use nuclear weapons against targets inside a non-nuclear state whether it’s following the NPT or not, and (b) everyone, including Iran, understands that a devastating attack on the U.S. by whatever means will create such unbearable pressure on the president to retaliate that these rules will be revisited instantly. It’s the nuclear equivalent of his interrogation protocol, essentially. America does not and will not torture captured terrorists as a matter of national policy — but if the CIA really, truly believed that a bomb was about to go off somewhere, don’t be surprised to see that policy politely ignored, to great public acclaim for Obama afterwards for having done what he needed to do to try to get the information.
All this is, really, is a symbolic gesture of good faith to put pressure on Russia and China to reduce their own stockpiles. Why we think they can be trusted to do that, especially when the United States is handing them a tactical advantage by reducing its own stockpiles unilaterally, is beyond me. But then it’s also beyond me why Obama would suspend development on any new forms of nuclear weapons, which the new policy also demands. New weapons, I assume, would be smaller and more precise, in the bunker-buster mold; there’s certainly no pressing need for state-of-the-art 100-megaton monsters when the chief nuclear threat at the moment comes from small non-state groups like Al Qaeda.
Exit question one: In limiting the nuclear deterrent to nuclear weapons (and, in certain cases, biological attacks) instead of WMD generally, doesn’t this create an incentive to focus on developing bio and chemical weapons? In most cases those are less dangerous than nukes, but nukes are also harder to develop and more easy to monitor. Do we really want tomorrow’s A.Q. Khans focusing on smallpox instead? Exit question two: If the point here is to raise the taboo on using nuclear weapons, doesn’t that actually make them more enticing for jihadi fanatics?

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Well,I guess this won`t happen under Obama`s watch!!
=========================================================
Last update – 08:09 18/03/2007
U.S., IDF hold joint exercise on response to nuclear
attack
By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent
—————————————-

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/838752.html

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM

“What are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?!”

– Frost

*ironically, Frost would meet his end with many of his mates – after they had just been ordered to disarm themselves. Funny how the aliens didn’t care that their nest was located right under the primary heat exchangers…*

catmman on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Remember this???

IrishTexan on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Arrgh. What happened to the link…………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtwRcZXrz0k

IrishTexan on April 5, 2010 at 10:43 PM

It’s a good thing Obama doesn’t stop by here to answer exit questions.

We’d be here all night.

This must be one of those things that we just don’t understand because of all the misinformation and misapprehension.

SlaveDog on April 5, 2010 at 10:43 PM

“What are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?!”

– Frost

*ironically, Frost would meet his end with many of his mates – after they had just been ordered to disarm themselves. Funny how the aliens didn’t care that their nest was located right under the primary heat exchangers…*

catmman on April 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Long as racial, ethnic, sexist, or homophobic terms aren’t available. You know–limiting the verbal ‘nuclear option’.

Liam on April 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM

canopfor on April 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM
good times….good times…

cmsinaz on April 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Hasn’t been said in a while….FUBO.

ElectricPhase on April 5, 2010 at 10:45 PM

While Chairman ObaMao may be patting himself on the back as he visualizes “whirled peas,” I see a number of hostile nations building their arms and flexing their muscles.

onlineanalyst on April 5, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Hans Brix!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 5, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac: Yup,*sigh*,don`t know whether to laugh or

God loves his children.
He is looking over and protecting our nation.
As long as we ask His mercy, we will receive it.

carbon_footprint on April 5, 2010 at 10:49 PM
I do believe that God loves his children, but I do believe that he has given us free will. Unfortunately, that free will led to the election of Barack Obama.

mobydutch on April 5, 2010 at 11:14 PM

Mr. President – Even though a world without Nuclear weapons is the ideal, it is something we need to grow into, so it can’t be mandated or done unilaterally. What you have done is put the American people at risk by your distorted idealism.

DL13 on April 5, 2010 at 11:15 PM

What is MOST telling in this is that Obama DOES NOT SAY he would use Nukes in retaliation fro an ALLY that was attacked!

For example, IF north Korea managed to nuke Japan, Obama would sit on his hands! IF Syria managed to nuke Israel, Obama would do nothing! IF Russia nuked Germany, Obama would sit quietly!

If I were an ally of the US that was depending on the US to defend me in the event of a nuclear attack, I would be VERY afraid today!

Yet another foolishly conceived by the socialist ideologue in the White house that thinks ALL bad things in the world are American!

Freddy on April 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM

I’m so glad we have a president who’s qualified to make these kinds of decisions on national security.

You know – there are days when I really despise the Obama administration and Congress, and then there are days …. when I don’t think about it as much.

Daggett on April 5, 2010 at 11:21 PM

IMPEACHMENT. IMPEACHMENT. CONVICTION BY THE US SENATE. HE CAN THEN RUN FOR MAYOR OF CHICAGO

THIS MAN WILL GET US ALL KILLED. I GUESS IT DID NOT PASS HIS MIND THAT THE NUCLEAR AMBIGUITY POLICY HAS WORKED FOR 60 YEARS. THIS GUY IS JUST PLAIN STUPID. REALLY. A VERY DIM BULB

georgealbert on April 5, 2010 at 11:22 PM

What is MOST telling in this is that Obama DOES NOT SAY he would use Nukes in retaliation fro an ALLY that was attacked!

That’s because he didn’t think about that possibility.

It’s amateur hour at the White House.

SlaveDog on April 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM

What was your point, mobydutch?

onlineanalyst on April 5, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Wait a minute. Whose policy is this? 0bama’s? The USA’s? Can he really do this on his own?

Mirimichi on April 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Hey, get real. It is not like anything he promisies anyone is expected to stay that way past the next news cycle anyway.

MikeA on April 5, 2010 at 11:46 PM

If this is just political posturing, it’s one of the stupidest things he’s done to date. Weakness is provocative.

There was no need to change the stated policy. This is egomania.

chimney sweep on April 5, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Who advises the teenager thugs in the WH?

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM

testing, my last 2 posts have not gone through. Testing 1, 2, 3

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2010 at 11:56 PM

Wait. So Obama is saying that if China gets angry at us for not paying our bills and gives Venezuela an nuclear weapon and Venezuela launches a missile at Florida, we will not retaliate with a nuclear weapon? Obama is crazy. Whoops. They took out another city, but it isn’t devastating enough to resort to nukes. He wants us all dead. I really believe he hates America or that he is working for a terrorist organization.

andy85719 on April 5, 2010 at 11:57 PM

I hate most things Obama has done, but this policy change of his is the first one that made me white hot angry instantaneously. He has to GO!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2010 at 11:59 PM

This is the worse administration in terms of foreign policy I have ever witnessed. They have a grasp of geo politics that has not been present in this country since 1934.

AP no matter how much you love this idiot in the White House even your contortions will not smooth this over. Russia is selling Venezuela $5 billion in arms and we do this?

Jdripper on April 6, 2010 at 12:02 AM

This is just dumb; much of the value of nukes is the threat to use them if we feel we need to. To openly start boxing ourselves in earns us nothing but an increasing view from abroad that we are feeble.

Midas on April 6, 2010 at 12:05 AM

Thankfully the “Sternly worded response” and “Non-binding resolution” is still on the table and ready for use. I know I rest easy in that knowledge.

Koa on April 6, 2010 at 12:06 AM

What a weird world we live in. 45% of us voted against Obama because we knew what he would do if elected, regardless of what he said he would do. 45% of us voted for him because we knew what he would do if elected, again regardless of what he said he would do. And the remaining 10% voted for him because they believed he would do what he said he would do. (Oh, and because of all they found out about Booooosh from Oprah.) There’s been a little back and forth lately between the left and the right, trying to determine which side is dumber. For my money it’s neither, it’s really that last 10%.

Knott Buyinit on April 6, 2010 at 12:08 AM

It eliminates much of the ambiguity

Which also eliminates much of our security.

Unless I’ve misunderstood, we reserve the right to nuke the following, whether in self-defense or otherwise: (1) nuclear states, (2) non-nuclear states that are in violation of the NPT (i.e. Iran), (3) non-nuclear states that attack the U.S. with bioweapons, but only if they possess a stockpile large enough to pose a risk of a “devastating strike.” I hope I’ve misunderstood that last one; the idea of Obama explaining to Americans that, yes, 50,000 people may be dead of smallpox but we can’t nuke country X because they don’t have a big enough stockpile of the virus yet is dark comedy gold.

So Barack Hussein Obama has reduced his sworn duty to protect America to a self-aggrandizing and cold, almost mathematical, formula.

His love of self over country has surpassed even Michael Stanley Dukakis love of self over wife.

MB4 on April 6, 2010 at 12:08 AM

This is a political play. Only evil fear mongering conservatives could challenge this policy.

faraway on April 6, 2010 at 12:14 AM

We have to get this Mother F*cker out of office. I wonder if lying about defending the United States is an impeachable offense? Obama is not only a danger to our freedom he is threat to our national security. When are these acts treason?

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on April 6, 2010 at 12:15 AM

I keep telling all of you that this is the 1963 “Outer Limits” TV episode “Hundred Days of the Dragon” coming to life, just without the sci-fi twist.

MB4 on April 6, 2010 at 12:16 AM

I’m sure if anything bad happens, President Douchebag will throw a baseball pitch at ‘em…

D2Boston on April 6, 2010 at 12:16 AM

Have never seen an administration willfully going out of their way to weaken and/or communicate a weakened country like this.

It’s as if they are flaunting to our enemies, “we are naked, standing in the street and we will not fight back. Nana nana boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.”

From wikipedia:
Oran’s Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: “…[a]…citizen’s actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation].” In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

BruthaMan on April 6, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Thank goodness the media warned about wacked out rightists starting WW III.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 5, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Yes, and a Will Smith or Denzell Washington would attack anyone who messed with his people just like Senator Goldwater would.

I’ll bet that the clown in the White House never fired a weapon, got in a street fight or lived a life much different from the average prep school white kid. Except for his exposure to the black revolutionary nonsense and Muslim anti-American crap. And that is the underlying problem.

IF most of the posters here found themselves running the old “evil empire” Soviet Union, they would behave much like the crew in the White House. I mean, who would want to defend that?

IlikedAUH2O on April 6, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Who advises the teenager thugs in the WH?

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM

I don’t know for sure but the Mad Hatter has been missing from Wonderland for about 14 and a half months now. It could be just a coincidence but all this sounds like the kind of advice he might give, especially if he is still drinking heavily.

Cheshire Cat on April 6, 2010 at 12:21 AM

This has to be the subterfuge I’ve alluded to…if not…
This falls right into the lap of the Joint Chief’s…and they better know it…
`shakes head in disgust`

jerrytbg on April 6, 2010 at 12:30 AM

So am I to understand that if a state attacks us with ALL of their biological or chemical weapons, and they have none left over, then the nuclear response is right off the table? So as long as they go balls to the wall against us, they are ok?

thphilli on April 6, 2010 at 12:31 AM

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Can we call it what it is now?

Wolftech on April 6, 2010 at 12:34 AM

Hey AllahPundit. Catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs&feature=player_embedded

Lex on April 6, 2010 at 12:40 AM

BHO mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmmm

armyaj09 on April 6, 2010 at 12:51 AM

The Prince of Peace has decided that we will turn the other cheek.

Really Right on April 6, 2010 at 1:06 AM

Always good to tell your potential enemies how weak you’ll be.

Thanks, Barry.

profitsbeard on April 6, 2010 at 1:07 AM

I wonder after this news gets out tomorrow and the next day how many Republicans or conservatives will still think that Obama would still do a better job as POTUS than Palin would regarding foreign policy or national security?

technopeasant on April 6, 2010 at 1:21 AM

Great idea Bamster… I suppose if you take over the NFL, you’ll require the offense to huddle at the line of scrimmage with the defense so everyone knows what the play is…

What could possibly go wrong?

Anyone in the PRESSSSSident have questions? Objections?

No? Good, it’s a wrap…

drfredc on April 6, 2010 at 1:42 AM

The President has already used the nuclear option against his political enemies and citizens. The only President to nuke his own populous wants to flow chart our response to various acts of military aggression.

R Square on April 6, 2010 at 1:47 AM

As anyone who has been in school yard brawls knows, fear is your most potent weapon. There is a lot of poking out of chests, tough talk, threats, screaming, shoving, etc, but more often than not it ends before it comes to blows. Fear of the unknown usually wins out.

By broadcasting this suicidal policy, we are encouraging the school yard bullies of the world to attack. Weakness encourages aggression.

To prevent things denigrating to blows we should be projecting strength, increasing fear in our enemies. The use of nukes is the ultimate deterrent at our disposal, they should never be taken off the table.

If the Obama administration isn’t employing Cloward-Piven with this new policy announcement, then that only leaves one option, they are colossal idiots.

DeathB4Tyranny on April 6, 2010 at 2:25 AM

I’m reminded of the scene in Serenity where the Operative tells Mal they can work this out:

“I am unarmed…”says the Operative.
“Good!” says Cap’n Mal and immediately shoots him. BLAM!
“I am of course wearing full body armor,” says the now clearly annoyed Operative. “I am not a moron.”

Except…for us, we are NOT wearing full body armor and our POTUS IS a moron.

Sarjex on April 6, 2010 at 4:26 AM

this is nothing sort of traitorous

unseen on April 6, 2010 at 4:54 AM

prediction Obama will be below 40% after this news gets out.

Impeachment now on the table in 2011

unseen on April 6, 2010 at 4:58 AM

It’s pretty well known within the nuc world that the US and NATO will be found in violation of the NPT because of US weps on European soil. Expect POTUS to announce that he’s bailing on NATO and pulling nucs out of Europe, regardless of the fact that the most recent additions to the alliance joined specifically because of that umbrella. It’s just another way for the One to demonstrate his committment to unilaterally disarming the US in hopes that others follow. One can only hope that he announces it on some generic day, unlike when he bailed on Poland and the Czech Republic on the anniversary of the Russian invasion of Poland. Not, of course, that that means a hill of beans.

rotorhead on April 6, 2010 at 5:58 AM

I have never seen such complete idiots running the country before. Never, not even Carter.

I am just a regular ordinary working person from southern Indiana and if I can see the stupidity, the arrogance, the futility and the short sightedness in this…how is it that supposedly smart people could not?

Like it or love it, we have had the same policy since the Soviets got the bomb, and in a half a century that policy has worked well enough to avoid a nuclear exchange. How is this change any better?

Terrye on April 6, 2010 at 6:31 AM

This “new” policy is to punish its’ citizenry for his low poll numbers, his boring 17 minute answer, his tripping on way to bat mobile, his getting back at Fox and the Tea Party clingers…..actually what is left in his arsenal?…oh, I know his “new army” taking down whose left….the unborn, are dead, the elderly dead, the “new army” has less and less work to do….the people left will be too weak from hunger to resist anyway…..

Obama mission accomplished….destruction of U.S………It didn’t take long….

nondhimmie on April 6, 2010 at 6:51 AM

When are these acts treason?

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on April 6, 2010 at 12:15 AM

Quit dreaming, Obama is a democrat/socialist, they are allowed to commit treason with impunity, they won remember? Suck it up, the Republic the founding fathers gave us is gone and it’s never ever coming back, get used to it comrade…

doriangrey on April 6, 2010 at 7:01 AM

I guess that means no nuclear response to the use of biological or chemical weapons against our troops.

year_of_the_dingo on April 6, 2010 at 7:04 AM

OBL could be standing in the middle of Tehran with a billboard that said “YEP, IT WAS US, WE NUKED YOU AMERICA, SINCERELY OBL AND IRAN”.

And even then Dear Leader’s first step would be to negotiate.

This is an evil and dangerous man. No nuance about it.

angryed on April 6, 2010 at 7:08 AM

War is won by “out gunning” the other side…yeah tactics are employed, but basically strength of power and the use of the power is what will eventually win that war. It also determines how the other side attacks…it is a deterrent as well as a force.
Once the enemy learns your weakness, your area of penetration, then that is where they will attack.
They now know they can use most any force, and not be “deterred”…bio or chem we don’t use, and now we won’t use nukes, so they have the upper hand and can “out gun” us.
Our guns against their bio, our guns against their chems..how stupid do you have to be to take the ultimate weapon, the ultimate defensive weapon off the table.
The only time a nuke was used, and it ended a war within days (6 days)…and it hasn’t been needed since.

right2bright on April 6, 2010 at 7:39 AM

Great question on Gateway Pundit….Is Michelle a birther too?
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/its-come-to-this-even-michelle-obama-is-a-birther/

lilium on April 6, 2010 at 7:53 AM

Meh, it’s essentially the same “have your cake and eat it” nonsense that both he and John McCain are always peddling. Remember when McCain was saying, “Torture should be illegal CAUSE IT’S WRONG! And then if we need to torture someone, why, we’ll just break the law ’cause we have to!”

Same deal. These nonsense policies don’t keep anyone from being nuked or tortured, they just lay the groundwork for horrendous legal challenges after the fact.

Lehosh on April 6, 2010 at 7:57 AM

Obama is a busy person in his attempt to make this country old and busted. You can take the man out of Kenya, but you can’t take making the USA Kenya out of the man.

Hening on April 6, 2010 at 8:07 AM

Trevor Loudon writes that Communist Led “Peace Movement” to Target US Military Budget. Big international marches planned on May 2nd at Riverside Church in NYC. I’d love to see counter-demonstrations.

Buy Danish on April 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM

Meh. This is meaningless and not worthy of my Tuesday-after-a-four-day-weekend outrage.

1) Lofty pronouncements by the Oblather administration are all virtually ignored by the … well, by everyone I guess. He flaps his gums because he simply has no other talents and Presidents have to do something, right?

2) No one expects that Oblather has the juevos to nuke anyone, anywhere, for any reason, so his Official Glorious Policy on the subject is just more blather. Foreign powers must surely be formulating their own plans now under the mindset that the U.S. has no nukes.

So…whatever.

Jaibones on April 6, 2010 at 8:47 AM

We could get hit during the time it takes zero to answer the question, sir, what would be your response if…

Kissmygrits on April 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM

We are become France

skatz51 on April 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Good God, look how long it took the CinC to determine to send surge troops into Afganistan.
If the US gets hit by WMD’s of any kind, do you really think he will make a swift and strong decission on behalf of this country.

I would bet my life that he would not want the “survivors” to think of him badly for using nukes.

Also, what are the chances that defenses will cover both Red and Blue states equally, just like they do the stimulas money.

mechkiller_k on April 6, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Even if this is your policy, WHY ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD???? Unless…..

labrat on April 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Pay attention to the consequences of your actions, Scooter.

kingsjester on April 6, 2010 at 9:41 AM

“Ladies and gentlemen, I want to announce that most major American cities have been nuked but rest assured the attackers will be issued a strong reprimand.”

MaiDee on April 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM

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