CBS poll: Believe it or not, support for ObamaCare still eroding

posted at 8:23 pm on April 2, 2010 by Allahpundit

Amazing as it might seem, this elevator may not yet have reached the basement.

Fifty-three percent of Americans say they disapprove of the new reforms, including 39 percent who say they disapprove strongly. In the days before the bill passed the House, 37 percent said they approved and 48 percent disapproved.

Republicans and independents remain opposed to the reforms, and support has dropped some among Democrats. Now 52 percent of Democrats approve of the new reforms, a drop from 60 percent just before the bill was passed by Congress…

Even though the president and Democratic leaders have repeatedly pointed out that the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office called the reform package a deficit-reducer, six in 10 Americans still think the new health care reforms will increase the budget deficit. Just 13 percent think the reforms will decrease the deficit and another 15 percent expect no effect.

More than half think their own health-care costs will go up, but nothing new there. Consider this a sequel to the earlier post about why The One’s “we’d go bankrupt without this bill!” talking point is so comically surreal, particularly as a pander ahead of the midterms. He lost the public on that ages ago and he ain’t getting them back, especially if even Democrats are now peeling away as the warm glow of History! fades. Say, I wonder if that’s because they’re finally figuring out, after a year of public debate, that this isn’t so much an insurance bill as it is a giant vehicle for wealth redistribution? No foolin’ you, unnamed Democratic strategist!

After Baucus’ statement, I asked a Democratic strategist (who asked to remain nameless) whether fighting income inequality was one of his goals in supporting the legislation. Never, he said. “That’s what the tax code is for.”

“It was not to take something away from rich people, it was to provide something to people without coverage,” he continued, making a distinction between striving for universal coverage and seeking to redistribute income. But he quickly saw that Democrats talking about redistribution could be politically damaging, echoing the controversy that erupted when candidate Obama famously told Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher that “when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

Ah well. At least The One can take comfort in the fact that the Dems are still more trusted than the GOP to handle the economy. Exit question: Or can he?


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Shocking!

Disturb the Universe on April 2, 2010 at 8:25 PM

unprecedented!

upinak on April 2, 2010 at 8:25 PM

I believe it.
This was a Waterloo alright but not for whom Frum meant it. Only the Left can’t or won’t wrap its brains around the notion that they sunk their own ship are listing in the iceberg strewn waterway.

Sharr on April 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Damn global warming is eroding the support.

carti3r on April 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Racists! Has to be said.

angryed on April 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Ah well. At least The One can take comfort in the fact that the Dems are still more trusted than the GOP to handle the economy. Exit question: Or can he?

Fairly sure the notion also went by the wayside not all that long ago as well.

Sharr on April 2, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Obama is a humble man. He’s not sitting there all grandiose thinking he has to give people a narrative to explain the next 10 years. He just needs to say whatever will be believed by the audience that he happened to be facing at the moment.

This is how Clinton ruled, and he failed too.

jeff_from_mpls on April 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM

OK. So now more people know that the O is the perfect design for harnessing a sucking power, if they just tell two more of their friends in one week and those two tell two… etcetera, etcetera (standing akimbo.)

ericdijon on April 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Ah well. At least The One can take comfort in the fact that the Dems are still more trusted than the GOP to handle the economy. Exit question: Or can he?

I’m sure no poll will convince him otherwise…about anything. Come November though, seeing is believing. The only question is how he will spin it then. I suspect it will have something to do with racism.

AUINSC on April 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM

C’mon, Allah! This isn’t about healthcare! It’s about student loans.

John the Libertarian on April 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Say, I wonder if that’s because they’re finally figuring out, after a year of public debate, that this isn’t so much an insurance bill as it is a giant vehicle for wealth redistribution? No foolin’ you, unnamed Democratic strategist!

We knew it in 2007, said so in 2008 and 2009, but we were called every name in Alinsky’s book. WE WERE RIGHT.
And BTW its not about redistributing wealth,
its about spreading poverty

macncheez on April 2, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Only 52% of Democrats now support Obamacare?

Heh.

Emperor Norton on April 2, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Come on bloody November!

farright on April 2, 2010 at 8:31 PM

chug… chug… chug… chug…chugga chugga hugga chugga chugga

WooWooooooo!

rollthedice on April 2, 2010 at 8:32 PM

B+!!.. and I’m saying it without a negr0 accent.

Alden Pyle on April 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM

…but when the accounting fairies sprinkle their stardust on it, Obamacare all works fine and saves money too. Now we just have to legalize “stardust.”

RBMN on April 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM

The country gets more racist every day.

misterpeasea on April 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Nothing another speech can’t fix
“…and I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling Tea Partier kids.”

mjbrooks3 on April 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM

You don’t say.

yoda on April 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Oy, Republicans will have to make a special effort to blow this one come November.

And they’re just the folks to do it.

Since it’ll be about turnout, we’ll see lots more scare tactics from the Democrats to juice up their base. Hell, MSNBC might even have to give up showing those prison tapes on weekends.

SteveMG on April 2, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Time for another speech…!

“Fire up Scare Force One, and fly over another disater zone!!!” – Obowma

Seven Percent Solution on April 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Wait for it…. waaaaaaiiiiittt….

“Unexpectedly!”

Seven Percent Solution on April 2, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Hey GOP leadership- you can still run on repealing it.

CWforFreedom on April 2, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Obama was wrong yesterday. ‘Armegeddon’ is coming. This November. Silly, silly Democrats.

TN Mom on April 2, 2010 at 8:43 PM

24/7/365 speeches by PBHO explaining how cool the plan is should do the trick, even though Pelosi said once the bill was passed we would just love it.

Bishop on April 2, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Lindsey Graham is going to single-handedly save this administration with cap and trade.

True_King on April 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Heading toward the basement on the express elevator. Not Obamacare which will become another cherished permanent entitlement program, but the American people’s tolerance for the return of Jimmy Carter. The GOP should become the sensible party of choice again for a while, however the field has shifted permanently farther left.

Southernblogger on April 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM

So there is such a thing as an anti dead cat bounce. I always wondered about that.

GnuBreed on April 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM

Maybe,Hopey should think twice,next time he lashs out
on the MSM!!!

canopfor on April 2, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Well, Dip Stick is still selling it, so naturally support is declining.

Stepan on April 2, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Unexpected!

epluribusunum on April 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM

This is why Zero wanted this passed last July. He knew he needed a year for people to stop hating it and move on. That didn’t happen. Can’t wait for November…

joejm65 on April 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Truth to Power!

epluribusunum on April 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM

I watched Katy on CBS tonight to see how this poll would spin. One part of the poll indicated that only 17% thought that ObamaCare would benefit them. I’m thinking Waterloo!

farright on April 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism!

epluribusunum on April 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Just keep reminding America what it will cost business-some projections are at 14 billion dollars.

Search: list of companies and charges due to health care reform.

AT and T 1 Billion
Exelon 65 million dollar charge
ITW 22 million
Lockheed Martin 96 million
Boeing 150 million
Goodrich 10 million (aircraft supplier )
3M 85 million
Verizon 970 million
—————————————————-

CWforFreedom on April 2, 2010 at 8:59 PM

We can tell out children what it was like when socialists ran the country. I’m going to enjoy my life till 2012 but I’ll enjoy it MORE when O-douche-bag is gone and a sad asterisk in the history books.

Mojave Mark on April 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Me thinks,Team Obama needs to manufacture
a new Crisis,as a distraction,like soon!!

canopfor on April 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Me thinks,Team Obama needs to manufacture
a new Crisis,as a distraction,like soon!!

canopfor on April 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Shhhh, don’t give them any ideas.

farright on April 2, 2010 at 9:09 PM

—-I watched Katy on CBS tonight to see how this poll would spin. One part of the poll indicated that only 17% thought that ObamaCare would benefit them. I’m thinking Waterloo!
farright on April 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM—-
You can watch her??!!

Colorado Anne on April 2, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Oh my

The peasants are showing a profound lack of gratitude to their royalist master’s gifts.

MB4 on April 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM

You can watch her??!!

Colorado Anne on April 2, 2010 at 9:15 PM

I don’t have cable/satellite so have to watch the alphabets for local news and wanted to see how they were going to spin their poll. I was suprised that they even reported the damning results being the Obama a$$lickers that they are. I can’t stand the way that Katy says “president Obama.”

farright on April 2, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Bogged down in the ruins they created the very creation turns against them… sniped at from the very rubble they wanted until the wasteland itself seems to have turned on them.

Stalingrad was not a fun place.

Now each and every asinine mandate, petty tax, intrusive regulation, and what the companies have to do to meet up with this garbage will chip away at this ‘Historic’ achievement. Stuck in this desolate place they can’t go forward, they can’t leave, and they can’t admit they are trapped by their own doing. Thus each and every thing that they have touted as ‘good’ now becomes the prison for them. This is what generations of Progressives and Leftists have wanted.

They dare not let go.

They dare not hang on.

Soon, very soon, they will realize they have been hung out to dry and will want anything to be able to leave their position that they fought so very hard for. Too bad they waited to long, didn’t listen to moderation, didn’t think about trying to do the smart things necessary to keep the nation solvent.

Be careful what you wish for.

You may get it.

ajacksonian on April 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Raise hands if you’re sick and tired of participating in “historic”.

betsyz on April 2, 2010 at 9:58 PM

———-I don’t have cable/satellite so have to watch the alphabets for local news and wanted to see how they were going to spin their poll. I was suprised that they even reported the damning results being the Obama a$$lickers that they are. I can’t stand the way that Katy says “president Obama.”
farright on April 2, 2010 at 9:26 PM———–

It’s encouraging that she’s even reporting on the poll.
I’m pretty sure my parents watch Katie too but that’s another subject – HA!!!

Colorado Anne on April 2, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Choke the (sounds like) horse with the this vile crap-o-lose’a… Make it hurt. Never forget, and make them regret.
-

RalphyBoy on April 2, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Obama: Just give it time. In the end you’ll love it.

Like saying “The more turd soup you eat, the better it tastes.”

Bruce in NH on April 2, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Hang the Obama millstone around every Democrat running for office this year, and sink them all.

If you hitch your wagon to an unstable and dangerous horse, don’t be surprised when it pulls you and your family into a ravine.

Bruce in NH on April 2, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Now if only The One can figure out how to redistribute election poll results.
Amnesty and ACORN anyone?

chickasaw42 on April 2, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Buckle up. The next decade will be dominated by the chaos and litigation caused by Teh Jerk.

*sigh*

PattyJ on April 2, 2010 at 10:39 PM

At least The One can take comfort in the fact that the Dems are still more trusted than the GOP to handle the economy. Exit question: Or can he?

If you’re a Democrat strategist, that move should send you into Defcon-5.

The last, tiny little glimmer of hope for Democrats would be that people still blame the economy on Republicans and Bush. But after forcing a massive wealth redistribution bill upon us (on top of a trillion dollar stimulus bill which is an abject failure), that’s out the window.

Vyce on April 2, 2010 at 10:44 PM

The 13 percent who believe that Obamacare will reduce the deficit also believe in the Easter Bunny.

MeAlice on April 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Hey, he needs to go out and make some speeches mocking the opposition!

That will do the trick.

PattyJ on April 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM

The peasants are showing a profound lack of gratitude to their royalist master’s gifts.

MB4 on April 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM

They could fool some of the people, once, but they can’t fool that many, again.

No one listens to a word he says. It’s all a huge arrogant preachy cadence. After a while it’s all “I…historic…I…aaaaay….I….aaaaay”

Schadenfreude on April 2, 2010 at 11:11 PM

The medicine is bitter and the country has figured it out.

Schadenfreude on April 2, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Lindsey Graham is going to single-handedly save this administration with cap and trade.

True_King on April 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM
We can never breathe a sigh of relief because Lindsey Graham is always stalking in the background. Whatever Barack fails to attack, Lindsey is more than willing to accomodate him.

mobydutch on April 2, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Unexpectedly unexpected.

ButterflyDragon on April 3, 2010 at 1:01 AM

But Obama wants to rid Afghanistan of corruption.

GaltBlvnAtty on April 3, 2010 at 1:47 AM

The peasants are showing a profound lack of gratitude to their royalist master’s gifts.

MB4 on April 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Hahahaha! Well put.

Alana on April 3, 2010 at 2:48 AM

You know how few people talk about politics and religion in the “real world”?

Well, I overheard this in my backyard yesterday: “Hey don’t worry about it. Obama will fix all our problems!” It was followed by raucous laughter.

Our President has beclowned himself. That the Historical! bill failed to save him is only news to The One and his mindless minions.

Grace_is_sufficient on April 3, 2010 at 7:40 AM

The government, no matter how hard it tries, cannot hide or cover up it’s abysmal track record on keeping the costs down on anything at all. There are too many decades and too much evidence of repeated government economic failure to ever convince the American people of big government’s ability to do much except gum up the works. The housing bubble is just the latest in a long series of manipulations that ended up hurting everybody.

jeanie on April 3, 2010 at 9:44 AM

The current regime is about spending and taxing to cover the amounts spent.

If it looks good, buy or implement it and tax the public to pay for it, no matter the cost.

Does anyone see where the Dept. of Labor made politics a profession, and what are the prerequisites?

MSGTAS on April 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM