The obligatory “Fox News pulls LL Cool J segment from Palin’s show” post

posted at 4:14 pm on March 31, 2010 by Allahpundit

Worth posting if only to watch the comments turn on a dime from yesterday’s “Good for LL!” sentiment to “LL is a has-been!”

Is there nowhere this poor woman can turn without having controversy follow her? Heckuva job, Fox PR department:

In a Twitter posting late Tuesday, the entertainer wrote that “Fox lifted an old interview I gave in 2008 to someone else & are misrepresenting to the public in order to promote Sarah Palins Show. WOW.”…

“Contrary to what was reported, LL Cool J was never scheduled to be a guest on ‘Real American Stories’ with Sarah Palin this week,” Rhett Usry, the artist’s spokesman, said in a statement on Wednesday. “The show had planned to use an interview from 2008 that was being repurposed without LL’s permission.

“This statement is not a reflection of any feelings LL has toward Fox News or Ms. Palin, whom he has never met, rather a clarification of what we have seen published in the media.”

The Foxies’ none-too-subtle reply:

A Fox News spokesperson tells TVNewser, “Real American Stories features uplifting tales about overcoming adversity and we believe Mr. Smith’s interview fit that criteria. However, as it appears that Mr. Smith does not want to be associated with a program that could serve as an inspiration to others, we are cutting his interview from the special and wish him the best with his fledgling acting career.”

Conservatives 4 Palin insists that FNC’s press release touting LL’s appearance didn’t misrepresent anything. Really? See for yourself. It doesn’t explicitly say that Palin would be interviewing the guests, but it clearly means to leave you with that impression. And no wonder: What’s more likely to get you to tune in, the thought of Sarahcuda swapping life lessons with the man behind “Mama Said Knock You Out” or a bunch of pre-taped interviews conducted by faceless producers separated by 30-second intros from Palin? They knew what they were doing.

LL’s not the only “guest” who thinks Fox misrepresented his appearance, either. Exit question: Isn’t the big problem with a hypothetical Palin chat show the fact that she’s more of a media draw than almost anyone she might have on as a guest? The same could be said of Oprah, but Oprah rose to mega-stardom as an interviewer; even today, you can watch her show and still maintain your focus on the subject of the interview. With Palin, you really can’t: Because she’s a prominent political figure and the object of utter media obsession, her questions would be scrutinized more than the subject’s answers. Which is precisely why the prospect of the LL interview was so fascinating.


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sorry for spelling mistakes in my last post.

katiejane on March 31, 2010 at 6:45 PM

Uhhhhhh, exactly who is this LL Cool J asshole, and why is it important???????

alwyr on March 31, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 6:45 PM

I.e. Palin was “mishandled” yet again.

spmat on March 31, 2010 at 6:48 PM

katiejane on March 31, 2010 at 6:43 PM

dial down your sensitivity. LL saw that it was a misrepresentation of his interview, that the claim was he was a guest, and he tweeted saying that it was news to him. Hardly a put down towards Palin, more of a wow, Fox is promoting me as a guest speaker, but are using old footage, thats a bit dishonest.

Do you have fighting for Keith as well?

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Tempest in a teapot. The same people that like Sarah Palin will like her more after watching the show, and the same people that hate her will hate her more.

spmat on March 31, 2010 at 6:51 PM

dial down your sensitivity. LL saw that it was a misrepresentation of his interview, that the claim was he was a guest, and he tweeted saying that it was news to him. Hardly a put down towards Palin, more of a wow, Fox is promoting me as a guest speaker, but are using old footage, thats a bit dishonest.

As a celebrity I’m sure he’s used to having interviews being refurbished. This shouldn’t come to a shock to him.

terryannonline on March 31, 2010 at 6:55 PM

terryannonline on March 31, 2010 at 6:55 PM

spin spin spin, keep spinning if you like, but ya makin’ me dizzy…

For all we know he likes Palin, I’m sure Keith likes Palin….hmmm where’s your anger with Keith hmmmm? You see, when you spin, it becomes hard to be consistent.

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 6:58 PM

spin spin spin, keep spinning if you like, but ya makin’ me dizzy…

For all we know he likes Palin, I’m sure Keith likes Palin….hmmm where’s your anger with Keith hmmmm? You see, when you spin, it becomes hard to be consistent.

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Not angry at LL Cool J at all. Like I said earlier my beef is with Fox News for pulling the interview. They shouldn’t have done that.

terryannonline on March 31, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Tempest in a teapot. The same people that like Sarah Palin will like her more after watching the show, and the same people that hate her will hate her more.

spmat on March 31, 2010 at 6:51 PM

You can put Dorkpundit in the later

WoosterOh on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Whoever wrote that copy for Fox should be fired. It really did imply these people were going to be guests on the show. With the inevitable results. And the C4P kneejerk reaction was way over the top and not helpful. I loves me some Sarah, but sometimes her fans are her worst enemies.

Urquhart on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Urquhart on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM

well said

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Did Keith send out 20 or so “tweets” expressing his dismay? You’re spinning it if you think all that tweeting was just “gosh I’m so suprised. I looked at who he tweeted the info to.

Again – FOX did not call him a guest speaker. Seems like a call to Fox should have been done as soon as he heard about it if he was that suprised.

katiejane on March 31, 2010 at 7:13 PM

I’m all for Fox as a conservative counterbalancing viewpoint, but I think they employ a lot of putzes. I almost wish there was a second network that tried to present conservative views. Fox could use the competition.

alwaysfiredup on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

And the C4P kneejerk reaction was way over the top and not helpful. I loves me some Sarah, but sometimes her fans are her worst enemies.

Urquhart on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Given some of the things that routinely get posted here at HA it’s rather hypocritical to call C4P “way over the top.”

katiejane on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

With all of her er “vast executive experience” you think she could have anticipated this and told Fox it is not a good idea.
Or for the Palinistas it is another shrewd move torn from the pages of sun tzu that shows how savvy a politician she is.
What is next? Maybe another turkey beheading or possibly a baby seal being clubbed in the background of her nature show…

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

With all of her er “vast executive experience” you think she could have anticipated this and told Fox it is not a good idea.
Or for the Palinistas it is another shrewd move torn from the pages of sun tzu that shows how savvy a politician she is.
What is next? Maybe another turkey beheading or possibly a baby seal being clubbed in the background of her nature show…

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

I’d go for another option: it’s not as big a deal as you’d like for it to be.

And I don’t recall very many saying that she has “vast executive experience”. Straw men come in handy, though, don’t they?

ddrintn on March 31, 2010 at 7:23 PM

And I don’t recall very many saying that she has “vast executive experience”. Straw men come in handy, though, don’t they?

ddrintn on March 31, 2010 at 7:23 PM

As predictable as the sunrise is the knowledge that you will check any new postings in a Palin thread within ten minutes.
There is no straw man except yours which is “Screw up? What screw up?”
And you have often harped for some length on how much executive experience she has and how that translates to her being the only qualified person on the right to run.
Quick! I heard she is getting ready to chime in on O’reilly’s show — get the video recorder ready!

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Yo, LL. CSI? LA?!

Dude

Christien on March 31, 2010 at 7:32 PM

As predictable as the sunrise is the knowledge that you will check any new postings in a Palin thread within ten minutes.
There is no straw man except yours which is “Screw up? What screw up?”
And you have often harped for some length on how much executive experience she has and how that translates to her being the only qualified person on the right to run.
Quick! I heard she is getting ready to chime in on O’reilly’s show — get the video recorder ready!

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Like you waiting around for the welfare office to open or the gubmint cheese delivery, eh Brad?
You DO have a problem with women, don’t you? Try meeting some women, OTHER than your MOTHER!

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 7:33 PM

With all of her er “vast executive experience” you think she could have anticipated this and told Fox it is not a good idea.

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Seems like a great idea, just poorly executed. Surely you appreciate that the producers could have done a better job without being micromanaged by the host.

Spirit of 1776 on March 31, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Worth posting if only to watch the comments turn on a dime from yesterday’s “Good for LL!” sentiment to “LL is a has-been!”

Are they the exact same people doing a 180 or are these different people with different opinions?

Anyway Allah, good job milking this with multiple posts rather than doing that lame “Update:” deal that you use in other threads. Smart move. Good thing Palin doesn’t get residuals from all the business here at HA. You should try making more Pawlenty posts too. Oh, wait. I just saw the comment count in the last T-Paw thread. Yikes. Um, never mind.

Dongemaharu on March 31, 2010 at 8:00 PM

This isn’t a BFD.

jack herman on March 31, 2010 at 8:04 PM

You think people who really don’t want to see Huckabee elected are going on his show?

MadisonConservative on March 31, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Wow.
Like former British PM Tony Blair???
I’m more impressed with the Huck than ever!
(BTW, it was a good interview!)

Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:15 PM

You should spread your wisdom and sparkling personality on threads other then those about Gov. Palin. I am positive we are not getting the full benefit of our vast knowledge. Or are you a one trick pony?

Cindy Munford on March 31, 2010 at 8:12 PM

The people to blame for this debacle aren’t Fox: it’s Mediaite and AP.
Mediaite had the post about LLFoolJ being one of the “interviewees” and AP used the set-up for his big “Grand Dragon”"point.”
If you look at the promo on the Fox site or at Conservatives4Palin, it never once featured LLFoolJ, Toby Keith or Jack Welch.

Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Just goes to show you how Palin IS TOTALLY CLUELESS!

BobAnthony on March 31, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Just goes to show you how Palin IS TOTALLY CLUELESS!

BobAnthony on March 31, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Palin had nothing to do with this!
This is Fox News caving to a whining “celebrity” (LLFoolJ).

Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM

This was decidedly unfoxy.

Stupit.

…with two t’s.

hillbillyjim on March 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

A lot of Hot Air about nothing.

Herb on March 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Other Fox comments of the past:

Fox New’s comments about Ted Turner of CNN equating them with Nazi propagandists:

“Ted is understandably bitter, having lost his ratings, his network, and now his mind. We wish him well.”

scotash on March 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Considering Toby and LL both gave the interviews to a FOX web show called “Real American Stories”, FOX owns the videos and no doubt contractually has the rights to air them as they were going to be.

If they didn’t care in 2008 about FOX and doing the interviews for an internet show, why do they care now that they will be on TV?

It couldn’t be Palin derangement syndrome, could it?

And I agree with: Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 8:13 PM

sarainitaly on March 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

I have no idea why Palin is doing a fluff show like this, anyway. Fox has plenty of babes who could do it.

disa on March 31, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Did Keith send out 20 or so “tweets” expressing his dismay? You’re spinning it if you think all that tweeting was just “gosh I’m so suprised. I looked at who he tweeted the info to.

Again – FOX did not call him a guest speaker. Seems like a call to Fox should have been done as soon as he heard about it if he was that suprised.

katiejane on March 31, 2010 at 7:13 PM

katie, dial down your knee jerk reaction, because LL’s “Wow” is not even close to the rudeness of saying “fledging career”
Could LL called up Fox and say whats up? Sure. But I don’t see his tweet all that offensive. I agree with what Urquhart said, when you over react you become a problem for Palin.

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 9:00 PM

But I don’t see his tweet all that offensive. I agree with what Urquhart said, when you over react you become a problem for Palin.

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 9:00 PM

I Tweeted him back about this and he wouldn’t answer me.
And I’m sure I wasn’t alone.
So?
Smith/FoolJ signed a release when he did the interview saying that Fox could use it anyway they saw fit, including “repurposing” it.
Why should Sarah be blamed because he was too dumb to realize this?
This is just pure PDS on Smith’s part.
He deserves any ridicule Fox can throw at him.
Glad to see they did, too.
Let his prejudice be seen in all its “glory.”

Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 9:05 PM

Quit attacking bradky. He is a good democrat thAt knows what is best for everyone else. You should all stop thi king about things and just let the really smart democrats take care of everything. They care so much and are so smart. How prescient was it for Nanci pelosi democrat to say that we will find out what is in legislation after it is passed? That is smart thinking.

Democrats will take care of you

daesleeper on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Conservative Voice on March 31, 2010 at 9:00 PM

The truth hurts sometimes.

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

As predictable as the sunrise is the knowledge that you will check any new postings in a Palin thread within ten minutes.

Wrong. There are quite a few I don’t even touch. Time constraints lately mean there are lots of threads period I don’t even touch. The weird thing is that you only ever comment in Palin threads at all. Really, really weird.

There is no straw man except yours which is “Screw up? What screw up?”

So if there’s a screw-up, it HAS to be allllll Palin’s fault. Gotcha.

And you have often harped for some length on how much executive experience she has and how that translates to her being the only qualified person on the right to run.

Really? When? I haven’t cited her “vast executive experience” as being her main selling point. I’ll tell ya, though. Being interviewed in front of a bunch of turkeys being slaughtered might be more easily overcome than doing a PSA with Nancy Pelosi.

Quick! I heard she is getting ready to chime in on O’reilly’s show — get the video recorder ready!

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I watch maybe 15 minutes of TV a week. I’ve never even watched Palin on Fox, and can’t stand O’Reilly.

ddrintn on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Like you waiting around for the welfare office to open or the gubmint cheese delivery, eh Brad?
You DO have a problem with women, don’t you? Try meeting some women, OTHER than your MOTHER!

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Always with the Mom retorts – talk about lack of creativity. Kingjester is waiting on Chatroullette for you — shoo now!

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 10:50 PM

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Always with the Mom retorts – talk about lack of creativity. Kingjester is waiting on Chatroullette for you — shoo now!

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 10:50 PM

For you, it fits since your mom filed a restraining order against you for stealing her KY, uh, Bradky.

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 11:37 PM

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 11:37 PM

It’s okay HS, I understand you aren’t getting the attention you crave from your live in man and have to search the innertubes to get some small measure of gratification from calling others names and pimping for risque comments.

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Bradky on March 31, 2010 at 11:47 PM

I think you’re the problem with the pimping problem, bradky…your mom was your only girl and she doesn’t even want you.

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 11:56 PM

This is terrible.

Not necessarily for Palin herself, depending on how things play out, but definitely for the Palin-Fox News relationship.

This was a media disaster. Even if LL Cool J gave his permission to use it, this was still a stale interview that had no business being hyped as current. And since it was made in 2008, Sarah Palin could not remotely have been involved w/it. Yet here we are, watching a promo suggesting these interviews were somehow associated with her — in her inaugural show as a journalist this time, not just a guest, for Fox News. One is forced to ask, what idiot — and what chain of events — conspired to engineer that lie in the first place?

Why was it so important to engineer the lie?

And it makes you wonder: did they expect to roll the interview as if it was made with Palin’s participation? Did they not expect anyone to expose the real story? Or, did they simply not think it important?

Now, even Palin boosters have no reason to trust Fox’s handling of the Fox-Palin relationship, to trust that the relationship will redound to Palin’s benefit, what with ham-handed Fox producers willing to con the public and trade on Sarah Palin’s name in pushing a piece of dreck (to borrow Ed’s word).

It makes Fox come off looking like a bunch of greedy pimps, eager to cash in on something unearned. And, in a sad way, it makes Palin look complicit in that greed. There’s no escaping guilt by association because even if she wasn’t in any way responsible for this f–kup she is at least willing to be a fellow traveler with these yahoos, and that is bad enough. Guilt by association is as real here as it is for anything else.

The closest analogy that comes to mind is the healthcare debacle. Some in the media were fond of pointing out that Obama (the “media star”) delegated all or most aspects to Pelosi and Reid (the “segment producers”), so he was not personally responsible for the HC proposals, yet he still rode in at the last minute to take the credit. As long as Palin delegates decision-making to the same kinds of morons, she can count on them to sink her credibility as well. It’s not guilt per se, but it is ham-handedness and tone-deafness “by association”, for sure.

Palin damages herself [only] inasmuch as she stays affiliated with Fox News. If she cuts her ties with Fox News now, she can stay out of it. If she does this show and remains with Fox, she implicates herself as someone willing to work with a troupe of smarmy, unethical lightweights. Her move.

RD on April 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM

As it is, I’d ask our regulars not to feed the troll.

Allahpundit on March 31, 2010 at 4:20 PM

You must be new here.

exception on March 31, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Thread winna.

VekTor on April 1, 2010 at 12:40 AM

RD on April 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM

I found your post to be comically hyperbolic. Fox apparently owns the rights to the LL Cool J interview, and unless there was some kind of restriction on it’s usage (which I highly doubt exists), this whole nontroversy sounds like it’s being perpetrated by a bunch of overly excitable, whiny busybodies. Shame on Fox for using an old interview with LL Cool J. How dare someone from Fox try to humiliate LL Cool J by dissing his acting career by making a horribly degrading, mean joke about it! Oh, the humanity!!!”

I saw Fox’s promo for Palin’s show, and not for a nanosecond even did I infer from it that she was going to be interviewing LL Cool J herself. If anyone, like you or the pontificating AP, thinks it was clear that Fox was unethically implying that she was going to interview LL Cool J despite the fact that the word “profiles”, not ‘guests’ or something similar, was used in the ad, and/or perceives it to be some kind of reflection on Palin, I’d say s/he is a gullible, rather silly person who must often feel victimized by oppressive marketers who do things like force her/him to buy Nike or Tommy Hilfiger t-shirts because they are helplessly unable to resist their devilishly manipulative advertizements.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 1, 2010 at 2:05 AM

The only thing I have say about this.
Just noticed at my Comcast star page under the videos it has a headline that reads: “LL Cool J Slams Sarah Palin”

“This statement is not a reflection of any feelings LL has toward Fox News or Ms. Palin, whom he has never met, rather a clarification of what we have seen published in the media.”

Hmmm…

Sharr on April 1, 2010 at 2:43 AM

Worth posting if only to watch the comments turn on a dime from yesterday’s “Good for LL!” sentiment to “LL is a has-been!”

Nice derision from AP for the HotAir commenters. And they wonder why conservatives are disgusted with supposed ‘mainstream conservatives’.

Sixth Guard on April 1, 2010 at 6:52 AM

I suggest LL Cool J and Keith read their contracts and consult with the normal business practices of the industry and then stfu.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 10:48 AM

You know who really really suxs? Obama. And his ugly wife. Though neither of them are religious, I can’t wait to see them dressed and prancing for the photographers on Easter. I’m sure Michelle will out do her her garish taste in clothes.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM

You know who really really suxs? Obama. And his ugly wife. Though neither of them are religious, I can’t wait to see them dressed and prancing for the photographers on Easter. I’m sure Michelle will out do her her garish taste in clothes.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Yeah, that’s relevant.

Diane on April 1, 2010 at 11:05 AM

And abs. The media will be filled with coverage of Michelle’s abs. And we’ll all be better Americans for it.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Was she really just going to intro the interview, or were they filming her asking questions to appear as if she were doing the interview? You know….the way they do it when these celebs are “interviewed” by your local news anchor?

I wish Weird Al had done a take on this LL Cool J interview, so I could link to it, but he’s Al “interviewing” Eminem, using the same technique they use for the local news celebrity interviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gjTXtFpo1c

PantsDailyon on April 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Was she really just going to intro the interview, or were they filming her asking questions to appear as if she were doing the interview? You know….the way they do it when these celebs are “interviewed” by your local news anchor?

PantsDailyon on April 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM

No, they wouldn’t do it that way if it was previously aired with someone else conducting the interview.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM

RD on April 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM

Oh, yes……this sounds like an off-the-cuff remark if I ever heard one. RD where exactly to you pick up these notes or are they emailed to you every morning?

Dan Pet on April 1, 2010 at 12:17 PM

It doesn’t explicitly say that Palin would be interviewing the guests, but it clearly means to leave you with that impression.

No, it doesn’t. Unless you are really dumb and don’t read well. I can’t believe you have a boner over this petty antiPalin junk.

Blake on April 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM

I’ve had about enough of S.Palin.

I’ve read her book and I followed her and voted for her last year but.. She seems to have no political ability to create a ‘mystique’ or a paint a political mojo to really do anything special.

Everything she attempts is a wonderful looking omelette which ends up falling off the spatula.

amend2 on April 1, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Wow. 4 pages of comments over a great big nothingburger of a story.

AP, you are the manbeta male!!

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 1, 2010 at 11:06 PM

I won’t claim to work in the media business, but from what I’ve seen, pretty much everything in this saga is typical.

– Over-hyped and misleading promo
– Over-sensitive celebrity
– Celebrity PR person trying to contain damage
Recycled Repurposed video of celebrity interview

The only reason it’s controversial is that it’s touched by Sarah Palin, and there are those who make everything she touches controversial. IOW, everything is a big deal if people make it a big deal. If not for the people who loathe her and the people who love her, this would boil down to a slightly disgusted audience disappointed in the show that wasn’t quite as good as they expected.

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 1, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Based on how awful your NCIS show is LL, you should be happy for any publicity.

RonD504 on April 9, 2010 at 8:19 AM

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