NYT: Hey, here are a few more surprises from ObamaCare!

posted at 12:55 pm on March 31, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Well, Nancy Pelosi did say that we’d have to pass ObamaCare to find out what’s in it, since Congress wasn’t too interested in letting us read the bill first.  The New York Times didn’t show much curiosity until after the passage as well.  Yesterday, the newspaper finally got around to reporting all of the interesting little tidbits that the bill contains, including a federal mandate on breastfeeding and a new tanning tax:

Tucked inside the huge health reform bill signed into law last week were many surprising and little-noticed provisions that will affect consumers in ways large and small.

“Little-noticed?”  Bear in mind that this comes from The Paper of Record, which supposedly publishes All The News That’s Fit to Print.  If these are “little noticed,” it’s because media outlets like the Times didn’t do their job.

It emerged that chain restaurants, for example, would have to disclose the calorie counts of items on their menus. Who knew?

Er, Democrats knew.  We didn’t know, mainly because the Times busied itself with trying to sell ObamaCare rather than report on it, and because Democrats didn’t want us to know.

So what are these “surprising and little-noticed provisions”?

  • A new federal mandate on businesses of 51 or more employees to provide a private area (not a bathroom) for nursing mothers to pump breast milk for up to a year after giving birth.  This means that businesses have to plan for mainly unused floor space in every facility, or face federal sanctions.
  • Tanning salons now have to charge a 10% excise tax on their services.  That should help the local economies!
  • W-2s must now declare “informationally” the value of health-care benefits.  This means that W-2s will become even more complicated and will cost businesses billions each year in extra accounting and reporting, which will hit smaller businesses most.

Not only will these new mandates carry extra cost burdens for businesses, we now will have to fund enforcement as well.  That means even more money taken out of the private sector and spent on non-productive regulatory efforts, mainly for the Democrats’ ideas of social engineering. Too bad the major media outlets didn’t take notice of these while something could have been done about them … which was the reason why outlets like the Times ignored them.


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Repeal and the GOP better get on it.

Apologetic California on March 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM

So, does the 51 employee mark mean per location or for the entire company? I can’t imagine every McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King, etc. having to remodel due to this provision. If so, that’s insane.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Repeal and the GOP better get on it.

Apologetic California on March 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Give the headlines… Good luck with that.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Ed, I beg you, please find a different picture to use. That thing in the background gives me nightmares.

PappaMac on March 31, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Too bad the major media outlets didn’t take notice of these while something could have been done about them

*shaking the head*

repeal and replace this boondoggle(even though our GOP members in the congress are getting cold feet *sigh*)…

cmsinaz on March 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM

The GOP need not “worry” about repealing this bill. It MUST be repealed!

indy8 on March 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM

A new federal mandate on businesses of 51 or more employees to provide a private area (not a bathroom) for nursing mothers to pump breast milk for up to a year after giving birth. This means that businesses have to plan for mainly unused floor space in every facility, or face federal sanctions.

Doesn’t go far enough. They should also be forced to feed, clothe and raise the baby.

Tanning salons now have to charge a 10% excise tax on their services. That should help the local economies!

Why stop at 10%? Why not 70% Is this service really NEEDED, according to a government bureaucrat somewhere?

W-2s must now declare “informationally” the value of health-care benefits. This means that W-2s will become even more complicated and will cost businesses billions each year in extra accounting and reporting, which will hit smaller businesses most.

Small businesses need to “man up” and stop trying to pay their workers pennies per day. Evil CEOs need to take paycuts in their private businesses.

It’s fun to be a leftwinger! No rational thought required. Only anger, a penchant for stomping feet and demanding things, and an aversion to noting that government action impacts people’s lives in negative and unintended ways.

Good Lt on March 31, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Give the headlines… Good luck with that.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

it’s what I’m afraid of…they need to take action!

cmsinaz on March 31, 2010 at 1:02 PM

The adults are in charge.

Del Dolemonte on March 31, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Repeal everyone that does not REPEAL this pile of garbage….time to clean house…and senate for that matter…

SDarchitect on March 31, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Good luck with that repeal thing. Not gonna happen GOP already backing away from it as we speak. Vote out ALL incumbents and establish term limits.

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Good Grief! Is that Spock’s sister in that picture?

darwin on March 31, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Cornyn (the hillary buddy that has given us a huge Indian workforce, a workforce that has usurped American workers) (the Crist buddy), the gop sen. that used his politcal capital to admonish Rush’s o fail meme, Cornyn was soooopreturbed by this statement)
wants to ease off of the repeal message….soros money is a long term investment apparently…..

nondhimmie on March 31, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Geez, when I think about the conditions I had when I had to pump breast milk at work twenty years ago, – you child bearing women are a bunch of woosies now!

sarc/

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:04 PM

The NY Slimes should have taken some of those fact checkers off of Palin’s book and put them to actual use.

drjohn on March 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM

•Tanning salons now have to charge a 10% excise tax on their services. That should help the local economies!

AKA = the White Girl Tax
Know any African Americans going to the Tanning Salon?

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM

cornyn also has allowed sanctuary cities in texas to flourish dozens of Acorn offices operated in texas, and the border is soft as his head….thanks cornyn….

nondhimmie on March 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Hey, here are a few more surprises from ObamaCare!

Pffffft! All legal and authorized by the commerce clause.

darwin on March 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM

PappaMac on March 31, 2010 at 1:00 PM

If you use firefox, and have the add on Ad Block Plus, you can right click on the image and select adblock plus… block image, then select custom. I have used it for an assortment of disturbing images that Ed and Allahpundit use, from various images of San Fran Nan, to that girl who wrote an upside B on her face.

rslancer14 on March 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Tanning salons now have to charge a 10% excise tax on their services. That should help the local economies!

Charlie Crist vowing to do anything he can to help repeal the bill in 3….2….1….

TheRiddler on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

W-2s must now declare “informationally” the value of health-care benefits. This means that W-2s will become even more complicated and will cost businesses billions each year in extra accounting and reporting, which will hit smaller businesses most.

This one is ridiculous. How will it cost billions to add another number for a W2? There are 1000 things to criticize about ObamaCare. This is not one of them.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

“Who knew”??? We damn well did, you stupid libtards at the NYT!!!!! I for one read the whole damn thing, and there is more abominations to come from this POS bill.

I hope the MSM dies a slow and painful death due to lack of readership as sheeple finally wake up to the fact that their “fair and balanced” media has been systematically brainwashing them for decades.

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Know any African Americans going to the Tanning Salon?

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Yeah actually I do. That is why I started laughing at a few of my girl friends (whom are black) when they found out how much it is going to cost.

assumption is the mother of all …..

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

So, does the 51 employee mark mean per location or for the entire company? I can’t imagine every McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King, etc. having to remodel due to this provision. If so, that’s insane.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

It would be funny (well sort of) if they were so determined to cram this through that they didn’t think of that.

Daggett on March 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM

This new and beautiful democrat paternalism will set you all free and make everyone more prosperous!

daesleeper on March 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Daggett on March 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Oh it was thought of. But then we will probably have a federal sin tax on our fries.. like 5-8%. Do you want to pay 4 bucks for a slab of fries?

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Maybe not billions but certainly hundreds of millions. It is harder than you think to change forms in a larger corporation, and in a small company, you just do not have the resources to track costs this way. This is going to be a nightmare for some poor cost accountant.

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I hope the MSM dies a slow and painful death due to lack of readership as sheeple finally wake up to the fact that their “fair and balanced” media has been systematically brainwashing them for decades.

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

rather be quick and painful instead…they are worthless.

cmsinaz on March 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

I hate these nanny state #$%holes.

search4truth on March 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

If you use firefox, and have the add on Ad Block Plus, you can right click on the image and select adblock plus… block image, then select custom. I have used it for an assortment of disturbing images that Ed and Allahpundit use, from various images of San Fran Nan, to that girl who wrote an upside B on her face.

rslancer14 on March 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Or you can get an add-on called Nuke Anything and you can literally get rid of anything you don’t like on a page.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

In the name of transparency, employers will be required next year to spell out the value of health benefits on W-2 forms.

Bullshite.

This is allow easier reporting to the IRS.

drjohn on March 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

If the Republicans don’t have the cojones to run on repealing this unConstitutional, economy-destroying POS law, then we need to vote their sorry worthless a$$es out of the way.

Here in southern AZ, the DNC has already started running t.v. ads thanking Dem. Gabrielle Giffords for her “courageous” vote for the boondoggle and listing all the b.s. “benefits” that Arizonans are going to get from it. No word, of course, about the bone-crushing debt, the job-destroying regulations, or the 1/2 Trillion-dollars in Medicare cuts (that’ll be so popular with AZ’s senior population!) that “courageous” Giffords signed us up for.

AZCoyote on March 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

•Tanning salons now have to charge a 10% excise tax on their services. That should help the local economies!

AKA = the White Girl Tax
Know any African Americans going to the Tanning Salon?

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Tanning salons are used by single womyn in big cities typically. And who do single womyn in big cities vote for? Democrats of course.

Just like Caterpillar employees who voted for Obama and insurance industry workers in Hartford who overwhelmingly voted for Obama…..these single white womyn are getting what they deserve.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Democrats have shot themselves in the foot with this one:

“W-2s must now declare “informationally” the value of health-care benefits. This means that W-2s will become even more complicated and will cost businesses billions each year in extra accounting and reporting, which will hit smaller businesses most. ”

Now every single man or single woman is going to see just how much they are paying for healthcare. I pay 4 times for insurance what I did as a employeee for a contractor.

The biggest problem with the cost skyrocketing is the removal of price signals from the customer. This will give people an idea of how much they are spending, or could be getting paid.

Theworldisnotenough on March 31, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Remember folks: When Obama said his focus was to be on jobs, he meant destroying them.

Chip on March 31, 2010 at 1:14 PM

A new federal mandate on businesses of 51 or more employees to provide a private area (not a bathroom) for nursing mothers to pump breast milk for up to a year after giving birth.

This one is a little confusing. Pump milk for up to a year after birth? So if all your birth worthy employees have their babies at the same time, can you close this area after a year? What is with this “up to a year” statement mean?

Electrongod on March 31, 2010 at 1:14 PM

assumption is the mother of all …..

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

You are correct. I listened to a friend who owns a few Planet Beaches and REPEATED what she and her fellow franchisees were calling it.

I guess you get a little less sun in Alaska than here in the sub-tropics.

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

…. that’s insane.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Another, very good, succinct description of most federal employees and all they do – particularly the legislative and executive branches.

Rod on March 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Benishek Money Bomb to Drop Stupak today…

https://www.icontribute.us/thanks/benishek

Goal: $219,000 ($1,000 for each Congresscritter who voted for this stinking mess)

UnderstandingisPower on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Either thousands of dollars or tens-of-thousands for each employer. If there are hundreds-of-thousands of employers in this country, then it will cost billions of dollars.

Al in St. Lou on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Good Question. Does it mean 51 workers all working the same shift or a total of 51 or greater employees working from that location over the course of 24 hours? And does it have other requirements like a sink and faucet, furniture etc?

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Nice!

rslancer14 on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

The New York Times: All The News That Fits The Template

Cicero43 on March 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Would a shower curtain draped around her workspace count?

jdpaz on March 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Maybe not billions but certainly hundreds of millions. It is harder than you think to change forms in a larger corporation, and in a small company, you just do not have the resources to track costs this way. This is going to be a nightmare for some poor cost accountant.

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM

How hard is it to track the $ spent on health insurance per employee? Every employer knows the amount already since it is deducted as an expense as is. So just take that number and add it to Box 22 (or whatever it will be) on the W2.

Turbotax, Quicken, etc will have that setup when it is required and it will be no more work than the current W2 process.

Come on, give people a little credit who runs businesses. They’re not children.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

I guess you get a little less sun in Alaska than here in the sub-tropics.

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Many use tanning beds for S.A.D.D. and to get rid of skin problems like Acne, not for tanning. Including Blacks, Hispanics, and so on.

I know it is mainly white people who go, but you would be surprised on how many people outside actually go to them as well.

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

This means that W-2s will become even more complicated and will cost businesses billions each year in extra accounting and reporting, which will hit smaller businesses most.

Instead of box 15 or 16 on the W-2, this information will go into the new “jack and squat” box….

value.

ted c on March 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

This one is a little confusing. Pump milk for up to a year after birth? So if all your birth worthy employees have their babies at the same time, can you close this area after a year? What is with this “up to a year” statement mean?

Electrongod on March 31, 2010 at 1:14 PM

I think it means that they have to allow the mother to go there anytime she wants/needs to for up to a year after she has the baby.

I don’t really get the point of restricting it to a year because I’m sure that if they complained enough there would be a lawsuit if they stopped someone from going after the year was up.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

AZCoyote on March 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM

saw the same ad here in PHX for harry mitchell

cmsinaz on March 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Oh it was thought of. But then we will probably have a federal sin tax on our fries.. like 5-8%. Do you want to pay 4 bucks for a slab of fries?

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Will that be per fry?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Breast feeding areas?

Another bennie for illegals dropping babies in country!!

Yahoo!!

rickyricardo on March 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

How about we just let women stay home with babies for 18 years after birth…at full pay and benefits? Come on you racist repluKKKans, why do you hate women and children?

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM

A few of these were publicized. At least I had heard of the calorie counts on restaurant menus (which I don’t think is a bad idea actually). I had also heard of the tanning tax (which is just a stupid money grab). The nursing room thing is news to me, as is the W-2 info, both of which are moronic.

MJBrutus on March 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

This one is ridiculous. How will it cost billions to add another number for a W2? There are 1000 things to criticize about ObamaCare. This is not one of them.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

You also have to pay extra people to compute that number every single year, it is not as simple as just changing forms.

Also, that just leads straight into the government simply saying; “Hey look at this, your employer is giving you $XX,XXX free for health care, so we are going to count it as “wages” and tax that too”. I can see that one coming from a mile away.

Johnnyreb on March 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Someone needs to sit Cornyn down and explain the facts of life to him. As long as conservative candidates talk about the “unintended” financial consequences of this bill enough and offer sensible replacement reforms, they will not have to worry about any political fallout from repealing this boondoggle.

When I nursed my first child 20+ years ago, I pumped milk in a stall in the restroom. Not a problem. My boss (a man) was fully aware and supportive of what I was doing, and nobody minded, including me.

C’mon conservatives, harp, harp, harp about the stuff like this that will hurt businesses, large and small, in innumberable ways. If businesses hurt, consumers will hurt and unemployment will remain in double digits. The Dems want us to be Western Europe, but Europeans have resigned themselves to doubles digits; we should not accept such a fate without a fight. Everything costs more in Europe, from peanut butter to gas to housing. Sure, they have great public transportation, but all of Western Europe combined is not as large as the United States. They have also never predicated their societies on the kind of freedom prescribed by our Constitution.

In the words of the recently deceased Jaime Escalante, “Determination. Plus discipline. Plus hard work. That is the path.” See the link
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/30/jaime-escalante-r-i-p/
This is a man who set the bar ever higher for his students and challenged them to reach for it, and they did. He was then hounded out of teaching in California schools by lazy unionized teachers who were afraid he would make them look bad. That is not the American spirit that I grew up with and my father communicated to me. Certainly, the country deserves better, but the libs will not give it to us. We have to make it happen ourselves.

So, take courage and keep up the good fight. Just remember the Reaganesque mantra that “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

College Prof on March 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Good Question. Does it mean 51 workers all working the same shift or a total of 51 or greater employees working from that location over the course of 24 hours? And does it have other requirements like a sink and faucet, furniture etc?

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM

If it is anything like other Fed legislation, it is 51 full time permanent workers in any two week payroll period for the corporation. So if you have 51 workers in 25 locations you will need to have 25 spaces for expressing milk. Not sure how they will feel about a location where there are no female post-partem employees CURRENTLY at a specific location.

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Yes it will cost billions. Adding 1 box to a w-2 will be billions.

They want to take insurance away from companies as a tax deduction.
They want that number to be considered as taxable income to the wage earner.

The first phase of removing insurance as a deduction is to let the company deduct part of it up to a certain number like 5-600 per month. Another trick is to put it under the amoount on which FICA is deducted.
The crooks can say they won’t raise taxes but one way to cheat is to lower tax deductions.

seven on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Yawn. These are picyune stories, to me.

Certainly not what most of us think or worry over.

AnninCA on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM

My ex-girlfriend insisted that three-to-five years of paid leave for each birth “made sense.” Yep, she was (and still is) a moonbat. She’s threatened to stop following me on Twitter if I don’t stop dissing Obama.

Al in St. Lou on March 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Will that be per fry?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Fat Tax… or should we call it the MAC ATTACK TAX!

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

I’m ok with the tanning tax, just not any tax on breast augmentation.

Repeal the rest of it.

Chuck Schick on March 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Al in St. Lou on March 31, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Does she stalk much? Good grief, block her already.

upinak on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Trust me. You can pump breast milk anywhere.
Bathroom, car, even behind your desk in a cubicle or on a park bench. Use a blanket to cover up.
Unless you’re shy (& hardly anyone is after giving birth), why is a special room needed?
This is like Christmas! Give me more mandates to think about!

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

If it is anything like other Fed legislation, it is 51 full time permanent workers in any two week payroll period for the corporation. So if you have 51 workers in 25 locations you will need to have 25 spaces for expressing milk. Not sure how they will feel about a location where there are no female post-partem employees CURRENTLY at a specific location.

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Well that’s easy to get around. Hire 102 part time employees instead of 51 full time.

Barry the job killer strikes again.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I represent 120,000 small businesses that come to my company’s website every month and I can tell you that they are not hiring or expanding. More importantly, the one’s that have the resources to do so are hesitant to hire due to not knowing what rules and regulations they will be beholden to in the health care bill and in possible bills in the future such as immigration and “cap & trade” .

These elements are on top of the lack of capital available to small businesses due to the frozen lending market.

It ain’t gonna’ get better for quite some time if what I have been hearing from the small business owners we represent. I do not care what this administration says.

Opposite Day on March 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM

This one is ridiculous. How will it cost billions to add another number for a W2? There are 1000 things to criticize about ObamaCare. This is not one of them.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

After a few years without group insurance being subsidized, the only number they have to fill in on the W-2 is “N/A”. Costs will be low to figure that one.

Electrongod on March 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM

How hard is it to track the $ spent on health insurance per employee? Every employer knows the amount already since it is deducted as an expense as is. So just take that number and add it to Box 22 (or whatever it will be) on the W2.

Turbotax, Quicken, etc will have that setup when it is required and it will be no more work than the current W2 process.

Come on, give people a little credit who runs businesses. They’re not children.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM

If you take the time to read it, it says the “value”, not “cost”. Two different things. How do you determine it’s value?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Whoopee! Who’s on the Government Winners and Losers list today?

We are on a slow march of chaos and litigation and lobbying leading to one inevitable end: serfdom.

The NYT knew all this but chose not to print it so Obamacare would pass.

PattyJ on March 31, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Yawn. These are picyune stories, to me.

Certainly not what most of us think or worry over.

AnninCA on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Who’s “us”?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Will this apply to Infantry staff rooms? It’s all men there but what the heck, a reg’s a reg.

Mojave Mark on March 31, 2010 at 1:29 PM

I’m trying to figure this out. Is there any particular bloc of people that definitely don’t use tanning salons? Can someone help me here?

LibTired on March 31, 2010 at 1:29 PM

If you take the time to read it, it says the “value”, not “cost”. Two different things. How do you determine it’s value?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:27 PM

This one is confusing as well…value? Insurance policies have no value since they are written for you only. You can’t use it as collateral on a new car purchase.

Electrongod on March 31, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Opposite Day on March 31, 2010 at 1:26 PM

+1000

Meeting with lawyer next week to figure out how to break LLC into smaller operating units. More work for ADP and the lawyers, but ….

barnone on March 31, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Yawn. These are picyune stories, to me.

Certainly not what most of us think or worry over.

AnninCA on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

I apologize, everyone. I was scraping the old caulk from around the base of our toilet, and this oozed out.

AubieJon on March 31, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Yes it will cost billions. Adding 1 box to a w-2 will be billions.

seven on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

I cant believe I am defending Obama on this….

If adding 1 box will cost billions, then those businesses really should not be in business if they are that inefficient.

Every year there are thousands of changes in state and federal tax codes, regulations. You’re saying businesses can manage those changes. But adding a box on a form that the government provides to all business as it is will cost billions more?

Every year the SS tax cap increases. And businesses juts adjust the formula on how much to deduct. Every year the max for IRA/401k contributions changes, and businesses adjust that formula as well. Every year the tax bracket ranges change and companies adjust withholding to account for that.

1 more line item on a W2 will be added to tax/accounting software. That’s all.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:32 PM

My husband has very selflessly volunteered to be a member of the breast-feeding police force. What a guy!

kringeesmom on March 31, 2010 at 1:32 PM

And another thing: Jason Materra not only reported on this and asked Al Franken about it on camera way before the “paper of record” fishwrap that is the New York Times got around to reporting on it.

And they wonder why they are part of the “dinosaur media” and are losing readers like rats jumping off a ship?

What a waste of trees. The environmentalists should be picketing them.

Opposite Day on March 31, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Yawn. These are picyune stories, to me.

Certainly not what most of us think or worry over.

AnninCA on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

You either don’t own a business or work for a small business if you believe this is nothing to worry about.

Do you understand causation?

Actually, now that I think about, (correct me if I’m wrong) you stated before that you work for a government agency of some sort. It would surely explain why you wouldn’t be worried.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM

This is a man who set the bar ever higher for his students and challenged them to reach for it, and they did. He was then hounded out of teaching in California schools by lazy unionized teachers who were afraid he would make them look bad.

College Prof on March 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I often deal with this kind of rpessure from parents & my administrators bcs there are some kids who fail my tests & the previous straight A students are acutally getting (GASP!) B’s. I still get kids who get As.
I catch so much crap from my superintendant bcs he has claimed ‘my class is too hard’.
I set the bar high & it is not unattainable.
So shouldn’t an A be for people who can attain an A?
A for effort is fine on occasion. But then an A in the end is really, do you know the material enough to deserve an A.
That is the A that my HS classes represent.
And I catch he!! for it.
Ironically,my superintendent threatened me & it was bcs of the union (which I do hate, but they provide me liability insurance in case a parent would sue me)that he was not able to continually threaten, debase,villify, & slander my name.
We live in a small town & tensions can run high.
The man has treated me badly (I am not the only one)& the school board puts up with him bcs no one will apply for the job if he left.
What a pesthole public education is.

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM

If you take the time to read it, it says the “value”, not “cost”. Two different things. How do you determine it’s value?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Hmmm I don’t know. I give an employee $10K worth of insurance, it has a value of $10K?

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Too bad the major media outlets didn’t take notice of these while something could have been done about them

Hahahahaha…………

To quote Brian Williams AFTER Obama was elected, “We don’t know much about him, do we?”

And why should we ‘know’. The MSM went out of their way to ‘know much about him’.

GarandFan on March 31, 2010 at 1:35 PM

If Republicans start publicizing these “little details” they won’t have to worry about campaigning on Repeal, because the people will be screaming for it!

Iblis on March 31, 2010 at 1:35 PM

AubieJon on March 31, 2010 at 1:31 PM

That wasn’t caulk. Caulk is not brown.

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Just wait until the commie fascists decide that fairies are not fit for existence in broader society under some faux science like eugenics. Without jumping into sin and all that, all can likely agree that homosexuals have a hard enough ride through life due to their uniqueness. In liberty constrained societies (such as ours is becoming), they have historically been persecuted unto death. America is no different… HIV meds will be too expensive so all homosexuals will go to a camp, then the camp will be too expensive so… Stalin, Hitler, Mao. obamacare: the movie always ends the same very sick and awful way.

nondhimmie on March 31, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Actually, now that I think about, (correct me if I’m wrong) you stated before that you work for a government agency of some sort. It would surely explain why you wouldn’t be worried.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Ann is a tenured adjunct faculty member at a community college, where she’s been relegated to teaching one course: “Liberal societies that haven’t eventually destroyed themselves through corruption and ignorance”. It’s a very short course. Easy A.

AubieJon on March 31, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Will this apply to Infantry staff rooms? It’s all men there but what the heck, a reg’s a reg.

Mojave Mark on March 31, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Hey. Men can breastfeed too. Maybe this will increase the number of men willing to breast feed their children.

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Hand bleach Please!!!

AubieJon on March 31, 2010 at 1:38 PM

I don’t really get the point of restricting it to a year because I’m sure that if they complained enough there would be a lawsuit if they stopped someone from going after the year was up.

MobileVideoEngineer on March 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Heh. I had a hippy aunt who breast fed her 1st son till he was 5. Her twin sons were born when he was abt 3 1/2 & she was feeding them all.
Needless to say, these boys have mother issues.

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Hmmm I don’t know. I give an employee $10K worth of insurance, it has a value of $10K?

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Here’s an examole…ever watch the show “American Pickers”? They buy something for say, $10 but they think it’s worth $30. The cost is $10 and the value is $30. Some people may say the value of their coverage is priceless even though the actual cost is waaay below priceless. See how that works?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Trust me. You can pump breast milk anywhere.
Bathroom, car, even behind your desk in a cubicle or on a park bench. Use a blanket to cover up.
Unless you’re shy (& hardly anyone is after giving birth), why is a special room needed?
This is like Christmas! Give me more mandates to think about!

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

It will need to be specific room, for which the proper permits have been applied for and furnished wih carbon neutral furnishings that are non toxic to endangered polar bears. There will need to be a separate fridge unit to store the aforementioned breast milk in, as well as labling supplies and solar powered breast pumps, which will require plenty of sunshiny windows to operate the pumps. Sheesh.

kringeesmom on March 31, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Yep, been there done that. Like the commenter above, I pumped in the bathroom at a wafer processing facility. Gotta love those chemical smells. Still this is just ridiculous.

And it will take extra time and effort to account for the value of health insurance Another point on that train of thought – what happens when the government takes exception to the “value” a company assigns to healthcare? What happens when an employee decides that they do not agree with the “value” assigned on the W-2? Will this be like your property tax valuations where you can dispute the value of your house as assessed by county tax assessor?

catlady on March 31, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Hey. Men can breastfeed too. Maybe this will increase the number of men willing to breast feed their children.

Badger40 on March 31, 2010 at 1:37 PM

“Can you milk me Focker”

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:44 PM

This one is ridiculous. How will it cost billions to add another number for a W2? There are 1000 things to criticize about ObamaCare. This is not one of them.

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM

So the accountants are going to be working for free recording that extra information? The software programs are going to re-write themselves? Not to mention the rules, regulations, and other stuff that has to be interpreted out of this very bad law.

highhopes on March 31, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Would love to see the accommodations made by tire stores, trucking companies, construction firms, etc. on the breastfeeding mandate. What if they don’t have any female employees out of the 51, or if the only ones they have are post-menopausal? Reminds me of the days when ladies’ rooms had to have ‘fainting couches’.

spudmom on March 31, 2010 at 1:46 PM

So, the value of the new health insurance must be reported “informationally” on the form used to set-up the reporting of other income. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.
Nothing like building a database for new taxes or anything…

mad scientist on March 31, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Yawn. These are picyune stories, to me.
Certainly not what most of us think or worry over.
AnninCA on March 31, 2010 at 1:23 PM

As usual Ann shows up to tell us what most of us think, without any factual basis.

AsianGirlInTights on March 31, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Repeal the bill? Screw it; Repeal the federal government.

- The Cat

MirCat on March 31, 2010 at 1:49 PM

angryed on March 31, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Ahhh, no. You may 10 K for it but let’s take a 2nd cousin of my husband who has had multiple heart surgeries since he was born, a cochlear ear implant surgery, etc etc. 100′s of thousands of dollars if not close to a million dollars worth of healthcare so far between operations, hospital stays, medications, more frequent checkups etc.

Or the employee who has diabetes/blood pressure/heart troubles. Every time they use it the value of having it goes up.

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 31, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Who’s “us”?

Big John on March 31, 2010 at 1:28 PM

“us” is everybody silly. Don’t you know Ann is our official spokesperson?

AsianGirlInTights on March 31, 2010 at 1:51 PM

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