It begins: GOP inching away from campaign to repeal ObamaCare
posted at 9:09 pm on March 31, 2010 by Allahpundit
The thinking is that it won’t play well in some states, like Illinois, where the GOP’s got a shot at an unlikely pick-up, so rather than push some monolithic “repeal it” message nationwide, they’re going to let local candidates decide how much they want to push it or not. Which is politically savvy, but not a big confidence-booster in terms of their determination to roll this thing back should they get the numbers in Congress to do so.
Top Republicans are increasingly worried that GOP candidates this fall might be burned by a fire that’s roaring through the conservative base: demand for the repeal of President Barack Obama’s new health care law…
Repeal is politically and legally unlikely, and grass-roots activists may feel disillusioned by a failed crusade. More important, say strategists from both parties, a fiercely repeal-the-bill stance might prove far less popular in a general election than in a conservative-dominated GOP primary, especially in states such as Illinois and California…
Asked if he advises Republican Senate candidates to call for repealing the law, Cornyn said: “Candidates are going to test the winds in their own states. … In some places, the health care bill is more popular than others.”
On Tuesday, Cornyn issued a 1,280-word campaign memo that mentioned “repeal” only once. It did not advocate repeal but noted that in a recent poll, “46 percent of respondents support a full repeal” of the health law.
Follow the link and note the detail about Mark Kirk, who went from leading the charge on repeal two weeks ago to weakly sniffing about the Medicare cuts in the bill yesterday. The argument for a cohesive party-wide “repeal it!” message is that if you run on it and win, it becomes a lot easier to actually follow through once you have the numbers. If Kirk ducks the issue and then is asked to vote on it as a senator, he might panic and balk; moderate Republicans aren’t always the good party soldiers their Democratic counterparts turned out to be in passing O-Care (although they’ve showed commendable unity this year). If Kirk runs on it and pulls the upset anyway, then all he’s doing in voting yes is keeping a campaign promise. Would you rather bet big on the unpopularity of O-Care now by adding repeal to the party plank, or would you prefer to hedge your bets by downplaying it, maximizing your congressional advantage, and then springing it on the public as a top legislative priority later?
The answer may depend on whether you think repeal’s possible or not. At RCP, Sean Trende dares to dream:
But even if they don’t gain control of the government, a coalition to repeal the bill or (more likely) effectuate major changes to the legislation is not out of the question. There are twenty-three Democrats up for re-election in 2012, and twenty in 2014. Of those forty-three Senators (almost 2/3 of the total seats up), ten are from states John McCain carried, and additional eleven are from states George W. Bush carried at least once, while seven more are from states Bush came four points or less from carrying. That is a huge number of potentially vulnerable Senators up in the next two cycles; it eclipses the two Senators from McCain states up this cycle (three more are from Bush states, and an additional three are from Bush-near-miss states).
These Senators could afford to vote for the bill in 2010 partly because their elections were a long way off. They also did so because the White House could argue that the bill’s popularity would turn around, and that the White House could pull vulnerable Senators and Congressmen over the finish line. But if the Republicans have an outstanding 2010, the White House’s argument will have been tested and will have failed. There will be substantial pressure on these Senators to modify the bill. Could the Republicans put together a coalition in 2010 or 2011 to effectuate major changes? It would be a long shot, but if Obama’s popularity remains below fifty percent going into 2012, I would not think it impossible.
Read the whole thing to see why he thinks O-Care isn’t quite as immovable an object as Social Security and Medicare were. It wasn’t passed with bipartisan support; it harms people who already enjoy federal benefits; and it’s redistributive in a way that those earlier entitlements, which essentially compel people to pay for their own late-in-life costs, aren’t. The prospect of a long, long period of economic stagnation on top of the looming entitlements crisis also guarantees that voters will have less patience with cost overruns than they might have during a booming economy. We’re already seeing omens in the media about small and medium-sized business — which are the only ones producing jobs right now — potentially forced to make tough decisions about layoffs to cope with O-Care costs. The worse it gets, the more transparently unsustainable this boondoggle is. Which brings us back to the question of how big an issue to make it in November. How lucky do you feel?









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Don’t you see? We’ve got a lot of huffing and puffing from Republicans, like roosters they are…bckkk, bckkk, bckkk, bckkk….. Then, there is is entire different movement that wants to actually do something…quite a large group, even though laughed at and scorned for their nobility and honesty; braving the egg-throwing (and much, much worse) left, the giddy lefty media), the light-hearted “right wing”
succumbs, without barely a whimper.
betsyz on March 31, 2010 at 11:46 PM
This is pissing me off, can’t seem to
repost something
ClassicCon on March 31, 2010 at 11:47 PM
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Well, you can do what you want, but all those libertarians did here in Indiana was give the state to Obama, that is just what happened. If you want to repeal this damn bill, you will have to take the House away from the Democrats, that means either Republicans or people caucusing with Republicans will have to win.
I am sorry, but it is ridiculous to demand that this bill be repealed and then completely ignore the practical and necessary steps that have to be taken to make that happen.
Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 11:49 PM
There are 215 days till the November election, and a lot can happen between now and then, maybe the Republicans should think about not handicapping themselves in the meantime, this is going to be a pivotal election year.
Dr Evil on March 31, 2010 at 11:49 PM
GOP still stuck on stupid. Repeal and Replace!
Dump the crap sandwich and replace it with real reform people will support. Then Obama can “go for it” and veto the real reform bill. Let’s see how that plays out in 2012. If Obama is dumped by then we can run the repeal and replace bill again.
batter on March 31, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Well yes, and maybe people should not go off the deep end when they read a post by Allah like this that may or may not even be true, or mean anything or in any represent what most Republicans can or will do.
And people need to be realistic, after all, they wanted hope and change and now they got it. It will be no easy task to undo this.
Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 11:53 PM
Then The Republicans (whoever is in charge of the RNC) It’s supposed to be Michael Steele, need to let Senators like Cornyn (who isn’t up for reelection) know, what he is saying isn’t helpful.
Dr Evil on March 31, 2010 at 11:53 PM
Oh, for Heaven’s sake, here comes AnninCa. Wow. The one who cries over a “Bambi” cartoon movie, when the the mother deer dies, yet, has no problem with real-life babies in the womb who are systematically “expelled”—due to the “woman’s rights” on the subject.
betsyz on March 31, 2010 at 11:56 PM
It’s not just AP saying it. Have heard it through multiple channels/sources for a few days, and very displeased with the GOP higher ups destroying the momentum. There are days I think the dems have fifth columnists running the GOP.
ray on March 31, 2010 at 11:56 PM
I never said anything about a third party. You can vote for skinheads for all I care and nothing will change in this country. We are following a long line of historical patterns that ends with the end of America is a true republic.
Time to face facts. The only thing that will correct this is a change in the populations perspective, and this will only occur due to a cataclysmic event such as global depression or war. Otherwise…Eurotrash West…HERE WE COME!
But to argue that the GOP is going to turn things around is laughable.
ClassicCon on March 31, 2010 at 11:57 PM
Afraid, (and scared) you are right.
betsyz on April 1, 2010 at 12:00 AM
The Democrats are trash talking, bring it on, we want you to use repeal to run on…and I think the Republicans are listening to the wrong people, and reacting to the Democrats taunts….there are more of us than there are of them. The Republicans don’t need to fall apart now. I can understand being frayed at the edges but they really need to hold it together.
Dr Evil on April 1, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 11:53 PM
Excellent concern troll comment. Yes, the GOP should ignore the opportunity, their ideals and their obligations (if they have any). Going back to the 2000 to 2006 strategy is much, much better. Look at all the great things that have happened since then! Hurray!
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ray on April 1, 2010 at 12:01 AM
I don’t give a darn what “purists” here think, anymore than I gave a darn about what Dems thought over Obama’s great election.
I seriously am annoyed by both far sides.
Like you think you have my vote?
Dream on.
Both sides.
You BOTH annoy me, as a voter.
AnninCA on April 1, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Wow, the dem concern trolls are all over the blogs on this subject. Bluffing the GOP leadership dunderheads is apparently the only strategy left in their empty poo bag.
ray on April 1, 2010 at 12:05 AM
So, this Mark Kirk is only looking out for himself instead of the country. We don’t need him and we don’t want him. Find someone else who has some Malkins.
Mirimichi on April 1, 2010 at 12:06 AM
Time to start the shooting Ann? C’mon!
It is right under the surface muh grrl!
daesleeper on April 1, 2010 at 12:07 AM
USA, the USSR of the 10′s! And I don’t mean the communism part. You know why divorce is so expensive, because it’s worth it!
ray on April 1, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Anyway, annoyed or not, I’m just ONE voter, and I’ll vote my own conscience.
But if some of you think I should ONLY vote for some one character, who represents YOUR ideas, which I think are frankly neurotic, then think again.
And the other bunch who think someone like Mitt Romney is going to be your answer to moderates like me?
Think again.
Seriously, think again. You have to win over independents, just like me.
So if you think this nonsense over “constitutional” rights, yadda, yadda makes even a dent?
Think again.
Those idiots are being arrested by the FBI, with good reason.
Either you offer a reasonable attitude, or I definitely can say that I’ll opt out entirely.
Seriously.
AnninCA on April 1, 2010 at 12:10 AM
The GOP needs new leadership in the Senate. McConnell and Cornyn (who heads NRSC) don’t cut it.
bw222 on April 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM
April 1, 2010. Just saw on Drudge the Obama’s off shore oil drilling will only be done by government union employees. He’s going to nationalize the energy industry.
ray on April 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Those are the actions of seriously mentally ill people, who probably really do need the benefits of a national health care plan.
They are nuts, in short.
AnninCA on April 1, 2010 at 12:12 AM
Ha, just kidding.
ray on April 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM
C’mon Meow, be a good wittle democrat and join in the fray. They need your palpable anger and depth of insight.
daesleeper on April 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM
To Annin CA:
Of all the commentors today, you are the only one who seems to be nuts!
tomshup on April 1, 2010 at 12:28 AM
The Republicans oppose the will of the majority of Americans, now?
The STILL STUCK ON STUPID Party.
profitsbeard on April 1, 2010 at 12:34 AM
Yeah, all right.
They’re all spineless jellyfish. We know that already.
But consider this… ObamaCare is probably about as popular as it’s going to get. This is it. The high water mark.
Once the taxes and fees and regulation starts hitting, long before whatever supposed “benefits” come to play, this load of garbage will get even less popular.
We’ll see what tune the GOP is singing in another year.
I’m betting it’s a lot closer to “Repeal and Replace” than what we’re hearing now.
12thMonkey on April 1, 2010 at 12:35 AM
Come on boys, don’t lose that spine or those brass ones you actually grew over the past few months. Man up and move out!
AZfederalist on April 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM
The GOP being spineless in the face of adversity? Say it ain’t so! I’m getting very frustrated with the GOP/Steele. They don’t seem willing to grasp the seriousness of the Democraps political will. They need to embrace Tea Party candidates in the primaries instead of spending so much money running against them (their disenchanted base). That money could be better served against Dem’s even if it ONLY means a couple extra seats. This incompetence is flabbergasting!
Ozprey on April 1, 2010 at 1:05 AM
This is quite easy, and the political calculus involved is just as easy.If the Republicans don’t run on repealing healthcare, they slit their own throat. They’ll simply repeat 2008, where no matter how many independents you pick up, the depression in the enthusiasm of the base will slaughter you.
I think people need to read Bismarck, and the relationship between Germany and Austria during his tenure as Chancellor. You don’t curry favor with people outside your base when those people don’t have any choice but to follow you anyway.
People are incredibly pissed at the Democrats in the Administration right now. The Republicans don’t need to offer them anything. The very fact that they’re not Democrats (and the only viable alternative) will get them what they need. Therefore, the Republicans should stick to their principles, and run on repeal of this travesty of big government. Where else can the independents go?
tl; dr version: “Don’t grasp at the shadow and lose the substance.”
Scott H on April 1, 2010 at 1:11 AM
Not to be a Pollyanna about this, but I honestly think the fight right now is at the states’ level, letting the Attorneys General of the states fight it state by state.
Then, there are the “big businesses” having to announce majory losses due to ObamaCare.
They’re having to testify to Congress.
Finally, as Boehner said, Congress can simply to refuse to fund this sucker.
We don’t have any money as it is: Dems in Congress are going to have Big Fun appropriating non-existent money for this boondoggle.
Jenfidel on April 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM
I will only support candidates whose goal is to repeal that POS.
Blake on April 1, 2010 at 1:59 AM
I doubt the veracity of this statement.
DFCtomm on April 1, 2010 at 2:14 AM
Repeal or bust. Period.
Theophile on April 1, 2010 at 2:40 AM
Deal with first things first. We can’t repeal Obamacare until we have a large enough majority to override his veto. So the prime consideration is to win elections. If that means we have to hold our nose for a bit and not push this issue then lets do that. But I really do wonder if we don’t come out farther ahead by promising to repeal it. As time goes on and people realize they are paying a lot for Obamacare and getting nothing in return the sentiment to repeal it will grow.
Hawthorne on April 1, 2010 at 3:07 AM
This is why you need a third party.
drjohn on April 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM
Agree with Hawthorne, this is a smart move on the part of republican leadership. Pounding on the chest can win “some” seats in some places, but the prime consideration is to win many seats and that requires smart thinking.
You don’t risk everything on one issue, when so much is at stake. What they are doing is keeping it quiet, but most certainly not ignoring the issue.
Let the local candidates determine how best to utilize the issue, whether in areas where very unpopular and thus making it the primary issue, or stealthy with little to no mention in deadbeat liberal areas where a win would be difficult with repeal as the main issue.
Let the media and the liberals believe the party has already given up. I welcome their intellectual laziness. Revenge is best served when least expected.
BruthaMan on April 1, 2010 at 3:52 AM
The Dems have our backs against the wall. We will NOT give up, give in or shut up and sit down. REPEAL the Obamanation, restore our constitutional republic, and cleanse progressivism from America. It’s not wrong to set high goals, our nation has surmounted bigger obstacles.
davecatbone on April 1, 2010 at 4:38 AM
Same here. It’s a make a stand time in America. If this bill is not repealed, they can do anything.
And AnninCa. You are no more an Independent than I am a Liberal. Your issues are lock step with the Progressive Movement platform and your comments fool no one here.
hawkdriver on April 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM
THIS……..is a perfect example of why the GOP leadership sucks!
They are really the party of BIG _____ government too they just don’t have the cajones of the Progressives to get in your face about it.
The GOP prefers INCREMENTAL massive Federal power grabbing for themselves. And I don’t think the GOP leadership has a real problem with the US being an equal member of a global Community and ultimately giving up national decision-making (because THE RULING CLASS will be protected by the “New World Order”).
Face it boys and girls WEASELS are in charge of both parties and they are both selling us to the highest bidder!!
PappyD61 on April 1, 2010 at 5:30 AM
Both parties do have one OVERRIDING principle / conviction.
The thirst for political power…………and the Dems are always THIRSTIER!!
PappyD61 on April 1, 2010 at 5:35 AM
profitsbeard on April 1, 2010 at 12:34 AM
You are so right!
flytier on April 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM
Be sure to mention that to your local GOP Congressman!
aengus on April 1, 2010 at 6:32 AM
No it is not!
The flaw with your analysis is that it is not only the media and liberals that will think the party has already given up. The BASE also thinks the party has given up and knowing the media-shy weasels we’ve dealt with in the past, there is nothing to disprove this notion.
TheRightMan on April 1, 2010 at 6:46 AM
1. Win the house
2. Simply De-fund the program
3. Lift a glass of Crown Royal on the rocks in Teddy’s honor
Alden Pyle on April 1, 2010 at 6:47 AM
To Annin CA:
Of all the commentors today, you are the only one who seems to be nuts!
tomshup on April 1, 2010 at 12:28 AM
I agree…I don’t know why a “moderate” like her even reads a conservative blog…Anybody who is on the fence in this day and time has no convictions whatsoever..
theaddora on April 1, 2010 at 7:04 AM
Amen! This sums up my own thoughts exactly! Politics is a numbers game! The debacle with the Obamacare ram down, the tea parties, Scott Brown’s win in a blue state… what more does the GOP ‘squishy’ leaders need to understand that more than half of America will support them in a repeal effort. Scott Brown demonstrated that being upfront with your intentions motivates your base and swings independents your way.
That is the Reagan method – do not be afraid to show who you are and what you are going to do. And it wins elections everytime!!
TheRightMan on April 1, 2010 at 7:08 AM
You really believe posters here will by your lies? You are no more an independent than the jug-eared dictator in the White House is bipartisan. Stop your lies.
highhopes on April 1, 2010 at 7:37 AM
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Which goes to show what I’ve always believed -the GOP doesn’t exist to do what’s right (support constitution,small gov’t, family, God given rights, responsibility, etc.)The GOP exists to keep its power -even being number two in washington still gets you into the top restuarants -the best pension plans – donations from favor seekers, notariety, special medical treatment, junkets, and access to instant public communications to protest that you’re not number one. Being number two allows you to keep half the nation at your doorsteps begging you to do the right thing -that’s power and that’s what the GOP has -even in losing. Dump them all!
Don L on April 1, 2010 at 7:41 AM
Republicans are getting cold feet because of the ‘de-fund’ part of the strategy at the start.
If the public actually wises up to the fact that Congress does NOT have to fund much of Big Government, then things get really, really interesting on a number of other ‘voluntary’ things that have been put in place over the last century. Republicans who want to be serious about this issue will offer a clear and stark choice between ever larger, more intrusive, more costly and less efficient government and smaller, leaner, less costly and more efficient government for the few things it needs to do.
Do not offer up mush for a platform. Democrats have been winning on the mush of Big Government for decades and can now be called on it… too bad there are a number of Republicans who like Big Government and Progressive Government that isn’t wise fiscally and intrudes on the people’s liberty more and more every day.
Don’t try to tell me how you are going to manage my finances and rights from DC… tell me how you are going to get the hell out of my life so I can lead it as best I can because I know better on that score than any damned bureaucrat. Telling me you just want ‘responsible’ Big Government is an oxymoron: it is irresponsible at its base and must be given little to do so as to be kept in check via scrutiny.
De-fund.
Repeal.
Rollback.
ajacksonian on April 1, 2010 at 7:54 AM
The problem IMO is less with political parties as what happens when the critters get to DC. They go from being representatives of their state or district to being part of a club which values going along more than standing up for what is right.
highhopes on April 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM
How the animal is made isn’t as important as how we treat it once it get unmanageable – don’t you agree. If we did our jobs properly as a well-formed citizenry, and threw the first batch out for the stuff they do or are afraid to do, the second batch might turn out just fine. Instead, we reward them for their bad behavior -like ringing bells – and they salivate and keep doing more of the same.
Don L on April 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM
Vote all them suckers out.
Daggett on April 1, 2010 at 8:22 AM
Looks like the Paulnuts were right all along. There is no difference between the two parties. Well there is one.
The Dems will tell you outright they are socialist scum who want to destroy the country. They’re honest. The Reps are socialist scum who want to destroy the country but lie about their intentions.
Oh well, it was a nice 240 year run America. All good things have to end some time.
angryed on April 1, 2010 at 8:33 AM
And if any of those 43 lose they will be replaced by RINOs who will vote 99% the same way as the Dem they beat. I can’t wait!
angryed on April 1, 2010 at 8:36 AM
I still don’t get all the anger. Being able to repeal this bill is not a matter of will, its a matter of math. 67 votes would be needed in the Senate, that’s impossible in 2010 and extremely unlikely in 2012.
The math:
41 GOP Senate seats currently
18 Democtatic seats up for election
6 of those seats 100% safe
Possible pick up assuming GOP canidates win all close races and all of their own seats = 12
Total best case scenario = 53 GOP seats, still 14 seats short of repeal.
That’s assuming GOP candidates win EVERY contested race, best case.
Anyone who says they are going to repeal this legislation before 2012 is just making stuff up.
If Obama wins in 2012, game over.
Don’t get mad because people are being pragmatic.
NextGen on April 1, 2010 at 8:38 AM
I’m a Libertarian who will vote ALL Republican in ’10 and ’12 to unseat the Communists. I’ll give these guys(or gal) until 2016 to get America straight, or I go back to voting my conscience in a Libertarian vote to go along with my Barry Goldwater conservatism. Too bad Wayne Allen Root can’t switch back to Republican from Libertarian to run. He is the embodiment of the Tea Party spirit……..
adamsmith on April 1, 2010 at 8:46 AM
Republicans need to run on repealing D.C. spending and power-grabbing in general, not just repealing the HCRA. They need to run on saving and restoring federalism with an agenda to repeal all the creeping encroachments against it.
John E. on April 1, 2010 at 8:48 AM
Is everyone in Washington suffering from near-sightedness?
Read my lips: Whether you repeal it now or not, you will have to repeal it at some point simply to save this country. When all the dimes are spent and everyone is locking up their credit in world-wide displays of isolationism, someone will be forced to make the tough decision – that to fix this broken mule we call the United States’ economy, we’ll have to take the weight off its back.
It’s really that simple. You either repeal it now to avoid that bleak looking future or you puss-out and wait until things are so far gone even Democrats concede that these social programs must be suspended.
All political preening and maneuverings aside, the train is approaching and eventually we’ll be forced to jump out of the way.
Thunderstorm129 on April 1, 2010 at 8:52 AM
WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for changing the attitudes of these PARASITES in Congress:
We need to put a tent over both houses, after they re-adjourn, and fumigate these rats; Then build another Congress more willing to listen to the people of America WHO PAY THE BILLS!
This isn’t Congress; IT’S A COUNTRY CLUB!
Cybergeezer on April 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Please tell me why there isn’t a mass effort for a national and personal protest to simply NOT buy ObamaCare insurance? If enough people simply refuse it can make a hell of a statement! Are there that many people shaky about putting their money where their mouths are??
James Greenidge
Queens New York
jamesgreenidge on April 1, 2010 at 8:56 AM
The problem with the GOP, among others, is that McConnell is one of the “good ole’ boys”. He is a politician before anything else. It’s beyond me how he became the “leader”. The real conservatives that stand for the principles the country was founded upon, need to stand up and separate themselves from this milk toast….. At a time when the GOP is desperate for real leadership and direction….. we get this stupidity……
ultracon on April 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Repeal is shortsighted. We wouldn’t be at this point now if a significant number of Americans didn’t support reform. To repeal is to simply hand the issue back to the Dumbocrats. Let’s MODIFY the bill to actually codify Free Market Federalism principles and solutions. A team effort that used Paul Ryan’s ideas could replace the bill in 2011 with something that could actually be Popular and springboard Ryan into the drivers seat for 2012.
Metanis on April 1, 2010 at 9:16 AM
I’m not thinking repeal… I’m thinking unconstitutional, and that the courts will agree.
n0doz on April 1, 2010 at 9:29 AM
While politics is always in play since when is it illegal to repeal a statute passed by a previous congress. SCOTUS may block one or more parts of the bill while leaving the rest standing but again a new congress can steal repeal the rest.
chemman on April 1, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Yes, Sen. Cornyn, process is difficult, just ask Zero. Doing the right think isn’t always easy.
Maybe they’re reading the bill, finding out what’s in it and deciding to keep the parts that control us the best.
Kissmygrits on April 1, 2010 at 9:38 AM
Scott Brown won the seat held by Ted Kennedy by campaigning to kill the healthcare bill.
REPEAT.
Scott Brown won the seat held by Ted Kennedy by campaigning to kill the healthcare bill.
To the “leaders” of the GOP, when you feel your legs going wobbly, chant the mantra above over and over and over.
The bill is a disaster. Hang it around the Democrat’s necks, for Pete’s sake!
olesparkie on April 1, 2010 at 9:44 AM
You’re kidding. You mean the Republicans have no mettle, no cojones? WHO WOULDA THUNK IT???
Seriously, though, I’m furious about this. Consider that the word “compromise” when used in almost any other context, is a negative term: to compromise one’s security, to compromise one’s position, to compromise a mission. These are BAD things, so why is compromising one’s principles supposed to be a good thing, according to Congressional Republicans? Ugh.
And another issue of semantics: the word “bipartisan” is actually an oxymoron. Think about it: if something is partisan, it can’t possibly be partisan in opposing ways. Nonpartisan, maybe, but not bipartisan. It’s impossible. “Bipartisan” is simply meant to provide cover when one side has caved.
Even though there are those who rightfully point out that this strategy could spell political DOOM, I always end up coming back to one conclusion: we must vote out ALL incumbents. No more career politicians. Or at least make term limits a HUGE part of the 2011 agenda. Then again, if representatives know they don’t have to face the voters, will they be more likely to pass unpopular bills like this in the future? Dangit, there’s no way out.
Animator Girl on April 1, 2010 at 9:46 AM
And they wonder why they poll so badly? The GOP poll badly within their own party because quite frankly most of them cannot be trusted. Grow a pair of gonads and stop listening to the news media and the democrat party.
I received a call yesterday from the RNC for you guessed it, a contribution. I politely told the caller that from here on out I will contribute only to individual candidates I feel represent my views. They will get not one dime from me until I am sure they will repeal this awful socialized take over of our healthcare system.
shar61 on April 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Until there is a large turnover in the leadership ranks, the GOP is what it has been for the last 20 years or so…a RINO party, a Big Government-Lite party. Conservatives have to clean house in the GOP or take their support elsewhere.
james23 on April 1, 2010 at 9:47 AM
See, it’s this kind of squishiness that makes it imperative that we examine every candidate CLOSELY and give money directly to the candidate and ONLY if the candidate is provably worthy of it.
Boy, just when you think you can start to rely on the GOP, they start going Lindsey Graham on us again.
Aitch748 on April 1, 2010 at 9:52 AM
You want to run on letting insurance companies deny coverage to children and adults with pre-existing conditions and on allowing insurance companies to rescing insurance policies? Not smart.
Jimbo3 on April 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Oops. Meant to say “and on allowing insurance companies to rescind insurance policies”.
Jimbo3 on April 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Right, Jimbo, let’s run instead on keeping the current ObamaCare monstrosity in place so that insurance companies are first forced into raising premiums higher than they are already, then going out of business. Yeah, that’ll help those children with pre-existing conditions, won’t it? Clearly it’s “not smart” to oppose this.
Aitch748 on April 1, 2010 at 9:59 AM
And you see, there is the problem! The squishy GOP leaders depend on ‘pragmatic’ strategists with your kind of thinking that has lost us the House, Senate, and White House in four years.
Run on FULL REPEAL!!! It doesn’t matter how long it takes but DO IT! If the GOP will quit with the defeatist nonsense and follow through, that at least will make the Democrats think twice before trying to ram anything through.
TheRightMan on April 1, 2010 at 10:01 AM
No. When that time comes, I can guarantee you that it will be the military that is gutted.
Why do you think the majority of the younger generation went Obama’s way? Because they thought it would be cool to be “post racial”? Not hardly.
It’s because there is no world enemy that threatens them. They really do believe socialism is good. They have not seen that real evil lives in this world and actually controls armies in some areas.
Even with Saddam Hussein, the younger generation barely got a glimpse of the mass murders he was responsible for because all they saw on the news was Bush-bashing whenever the topic of Iraq came up.
So, these young, naive people who have no common enemy at this time, will believe all other countries have kittens, rainbows and unicorns free for the taking and will push to begin gutting out military. It will be seen as unnecessary.
Hell, half these kids don’t see China, North Korea or Iran as a threat. It’s “over there”, so it doesn’t affect them in their minds. We’re already seeing the military spending being downplayed while the risks in the world are increasing. (Ala Barney Frank wanting to cut defense spending 25%)
ButterflyDragon on April 1, 2010 at 10:10 AM
That may be but even that won’t keep it afloat long. Our 2010 Defense Budget was 663 billion with the wars going on.
That wouldn’t even fund Obama’s healthcare program for ten years.
Thunderstorm129 on April 1, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Sounds like a plan to me now if only the Republicans don’t step on their collective d1cks….as in 214 days out from November they decide they need a new RNC chairman. Note to the Republicans you are NOT instilling any confidence.
As for AnninCA I don’t know one Independent that isn’t fuming over that “Individual Mandate” why do you suppose some many law suits are being filed by AGs across the country? Because it’s Unconstitutional….and Independents care about the Constitution otherwise they would just be Democrats.
Dr Evil on April 1, 2010 at 11:05 AM
They’d better, or it will be the end of the Republican party and we’ll head into that thousand years of darkness that Reagan talked about.
labrat on April 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM
And then what?
When the math says it’s not possible but you tell people, “vote for me and I will repeal this bill” then you don’t because you can’t, what then?
Tell them, “just kidding”?
Good politics is based in good policy, good policy is based in reality.
It’s simple really, the GOP cannot repeal this bill anytime in the near future. Promising to do what you can’t is a sur e way to turn people off over the long term.
The GOP made a tactical decision to oppose all things Obama. The made a bet they could block this, they lost. Time to face reality and promise to do things they *can* do.
Or of course you can continue to tilt at windmills.
NextGen on April 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Government medical programs deny coverage at a much higher rate than private insurance companies. So let me ask you…
dominigan on April 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Like deny funding when conservatives retake the House in 2010, and repeal it when we retake the rest in 2012.
Anything else is unsustainable, not to mention COWARDLY.
dominigan on April 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM
That’s actually a much more pragmatic, reality based set of goals than those who talk about repeal in 2010.
NextGen on April 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM
DEAR GOP CONGRESSIONAL STAFFERS WHO I HOPE ARE READING THIS:
Respectfully, can you guys/gals read the polls? There is absolutely no need to go this route. Even if your internal polls show Il as shaky with ‘Repeal’, don’t announce the
above publicly at all, and especially don’t start getting wobbly so soon. What on earth are you thinking?
Do you truly want to undo ObamaCare or don’t you? If you do, then you need stop planning for another ’06 & ’08 type campaign.
JimP on April 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Personally, I think we should take the president’s advice.
Go for it!
tom on April 1, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Wimps.
Ward Cleaver on April 1, 2010 at 2:31 PM
It’s not going to get rolled back. We are the United States of Amerika now. Its reality.
paulsur on April 1, 2010 at 2:34 PM
I’m a Libertarian………
adamsmith on April 1, 2010 at 8:46 AM
Then you are part of the problem! Go 3rd party, friend ! It is the right thing to do while conservatives take back the GOP!
cableguy615 on April 1, 2010 at 3:55 PM
This phrase suggests fighting something that is not a threat. I don’t think you could say the health care bill is anything but a threat. If Republicans are unwilling to fight this with everything they’ve got, no matter the odds, then they reveal that they never thought it was really that bad after all. It makes them look partisan for opposing it only to back off now. Consistent, strong opposition is what a truly principled pol would do, and damn the consequences. We are fighting for the preservation of our Republic, here. This is NOT the time to puss out.
Animator Girl on April 1, 2010 at 4:28 PM
What is going on is the Republican Establishment is protecting Mitt Romney. They don’t want the Republicans to be against Obamacare in every state for these reasons:
1. A lot of the Republicans will know about Romneycare and this would hurt Romney in 2012. The Establishment wants Romney to be the nominee – get it!
2. The Establishment wants the healthcare bill & Romneycare to be downplayed so it won’t hurt Romney any more.
So, now you know, the Republican Establishment is willing to give us all Obamacare just so they can continue to support Romney and he could win for the Republicans in 2012.
VFT on April 2, 2010 at 12:17 AM
…inching away from repealing Ocare
losing their disgruntled base of constituents who know defeatists when they see them.
As if McCain can’t be defeated given some opposition.
maverick muse on April 2, 2010 at 6:58 AM
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