It begins: GOP inching away from campaign to repeal ObamaCare

posted at 9:09 pm on March 31, 2010 by Allahpundit

The thinking is that it won’t play well in some states, like Illinois, where the GOP’s got a shot at an unlikely pick-up, so rather than push some monolithic “repeal it” message nationwide, they’re going to let local candidates decide how much they want to push it or not. Which is politically savvy, but not a big confidence-booster in terms of their determination to roll this thing back should they get the numbers in Congress to do so.

Top Republicans are increasingly worried that GOP candidates this fall might be burned by a fire that’s roaring through the conservative base: demand for the repeal of President Barack Obama’s new health care law…

Repeal is politically and legally unlikely, and grass-roots activists may feel disillusioned by a failed crusade. More important, say strategists from both parties, a fiercely repeal-the-bill stance might prove far less popular in a general election than in a conservative-dominated GOP primary, especially in states such as Illinois and California…

Asked if he advises Republican Senate candidates to call for repealing the law, Cornyn said: “Candidates are going to test the winds in their own states. … In some places, the health care bill is more popular than others.”

On Tuesday, Cornyn issued a 1,280-word campaign memo that mentioned “repeal” only once. It did not advocate repeal but noted that in a recent poll, “46 percent of respondents support a full repeal” of the health law.

Follow the link and note the detail about Mark Kirk, who went from leading the charge on repeal two weeks ago to weakly sniffing about the Medicare cuts in the bill yesterday. The argument for a cohesive party-wide “repeal it!” message is that if you run on it and win, it becomes a lot easier to actually follow through once you have the numbers. If Kirk ducks the issue and then is asked to vote on it as a senator, he might panic and balk; moderate Republicans aren’t always the good party soldiers their Democratic counterparts turned out to be in passing O-Care (although they’ve showed commendable unity this year). If Kirk runs on it and pulls the upset anyway, then all he’s doing in voting yes is keeping a campaign promise. Would you rather bet big on the unpopularity of O-Care now by adding repeal to the party plank, or would you prefer to hedge your bets by downplaying it, maximizing your congressional advantage, and then springing it on the public as a top legislative priority later?

The answer may depend on whether you think repeal’s possible or not. At RCP, Sean Trende dares to dream:

But even if they don’t gain control of the government, a coalition to repeal the bill or (more likely) effectuate major changes to the legislation is not out of the question. There are twenty-three Democrats up for re-election in 2012, and twenty in 2014. Of those forty-three Senators (almost 2/3 of the total seats up), ten are from states John McCain carried, and additional eleven are from states George W. Bush carried at least once, while seven more are from states Bush came four points or less from carrying. That is a huge number of potentially vulnerable Senators up in the next two cycles; it eclipses the two Senators from McCain states up this cycle (three more are from Bush states, and an additional three are from Bush-near-miss states).

These Senators could afford to vote for the bill in 2010 partly because their elections were a long way off. They also did so because the White House could argue that the bill’s popularity would turn around, and that the White House could pull vulnerable Senators and Congressmen over the finish line. But if the Republicans have an outstanding 2010, the White House’s argument will have been tested and will have failed. There will be substantial pressure on these Senators to modify the bill. Could the Republicans put together a coalition in 2010 or 2011 to effectuate major changes? It would be a long shot, but if Obama’s popularity remains below fifty percent going into 2012, I would not think it impossible.

Read the whole thing to see why he thinks O-Care isn’t quite as immovable an object as Social Security and Medicare were. It wasn’t passed with bipartisan support; it harms people who already enjoy federal benefits; and it’s redistributive in a way that those earlier entitlements, which essentially compel people to pay for their own late-in-life costs, aren’t. The prospect of a long, long period of economic stagnation on top of the looming entitlements crisis also guarantees that voters will have less patience with cost overruns than they might have during a booming economy. We’re already seeing omens in the media about small and medium-sized business — which are the only ones producing jobs right now — potentially forced to make tough decisions about layoffs to cope with O-Care costs. The worse it gets, the more transparently unsustainable this boondoggle is. Which brings us back to the question of how big an issue to make it in November. How lucky do you feel?


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The GOP better think hard on this ….. I wouldn’t want to see a 3rd party candidate in 2012 ,,,,,!

HadaAbeche on March 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

“It begins: GOP inching away from campaign to repeal ObamaCare”

I thought we already had a thread on why not to donate to the GOP…

Seven Percent Solution on March 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

The thinking is that it won’t play well in some states, like Illinois, where the GOP’s got a shot at an unlikely pick-up, so rather than push some monolithic “repeal it” message nationwide, they’re going to let local candidates decide how much they want to push it or not. Which is politically savvy, but not a big confidence-booster in terms of their determination to roll this thing back should they get the numbers in Congress to do so.

This could be a very dangerous policy, too. We all know that all of the money is going to Ultra-Conservative Tea Partiers (DeMint and Rubio). If the RNC is no longer able to get money to the candidates in Illinois, then it’s highly unlikely that the Illinois Republicans will eek it out. The GOP had better just give up in Illinois and have a message that will work for the DeMint crowd.

Or something like this /s

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM

I think support for 0bamacare is a shibboleth, just like a German who talks about Hitler building the Autobahn.

Implicit is the “I vote for Democrats no matter what.” 0bamacare supporters won’t vote for a Republican with a gun to their heads. Getting wishy-washy on repeal won’t gain a single vote, and will lose plenty of votes.

I vote we strangle Nancy Pelosi’s Rosemary’s Baby in the crib.

Sekhmet on March 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM

The GOP – working hard to defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

Lily on March 31, 2010 at 9:16 PM

IF you worry about whether you can repeal it, you won’t.

GarandFan on March 31, 2010 at 9:16 PM

The only reason non-liberals are charged up about this election at all is due to the promise to repeal the Obamacare catastrophe.

If the GOP wants more Scott-Brown-type Republican upsets in Blue states, they cannot go back to being the squishy mushballs that lost them the House and Senate in the first place.

Americans want to vote for principles of protection of individual liberty rather than cynical government domination of Americans’ lives. Repeal must be the message of the GOP in every state.

Edouard on March 31, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Another brilliant mistake by the GOP “leaders”. Clearly they have been in DC too long.

jbh45 on March 31, 2010 at 9:17 PM

The thinking is that it won’t play well in some states, like Illinois,

…..

Good thing they didn’t run on opposing HCR in MA.

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artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Follow the link and note the detail about Mark Kirk, who went from leading the charge on repeal

Oh, the fella who was one of the handful of Republican traitors who caved on “Cap and Tax”? He deserves the Bill Nelson Nebraska pizzaria greeting for the rest of his career.

Marcus on March 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Mark Kirk is a weasel of the first order…. I told everyone on a different thread weeks ago that voting for him was worthless and everyone said “oh he is the only one that can win”, I used to vote like that, I don’t anymore. Weasel, didn’t vote for him for this reason. Sick of these crap weasels always talking a big game and then balking… have had enough of that and sick of it.
Illinois republicans are almost as bad as the democrats.

momof2 on March 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM

The GOP – working hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

Geez and I use the preview button too.

Lily on March 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Repeal the POS!

farright on March 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Unlike the rest of you peons, I’m more of the politically wise mindset. The only winning strategy for the GOP is to move towards the center and make the voters realize Obama is most likely to the left of them on certain key issues.

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Well. That’s lovely isn’t it? The brass in the GOP need to go. Now.

Actually, nuts to this. I am going to start my own country. If Big Boss can do it I’m pretty sure I can do it too.

Gatsu on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

How about just running on a platform of all-out political WAR against the Democratic Party? Don’t even refer to them as Democrats anymore – call ‘em Socialists.

We have a national EMERGENCY here – and it’s not from terrorists. It’s from clueless libbies who are spending every cent our great, great, great, great, great grandkids will ever earn.

They’ve declared war on the American people.

Give it to them.

HondaV65 on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

If that happens it’s the Libertarian Party for me.

Drained Brain on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Hopefully (not crossing my fingers though) the Repubs are trying to get control of Congress first, then hammer away at healthcare. Kinda like Barry getting a fair amount of the centrist vote then lurching left.

Patrick S on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Once again the GOP is telling their base they embarrass them but oh by the way…..vote Quimby.
If you want to know why the media is so relentless on Republicans it is because they know they can peel a few off from the herd and get them to waver.
They always do.
Democrats on the other hand can look straight into the eyes of millions of angry voters and still stay unified and tow the party line.
Republicans had better be careful. If we get stuck with Obamacare and the one time we really really need them they cave on us it won’t be pretty for the squishers.

NeoKong on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

The GOP had better repeal it or I’ll vote their sorry asses out too and replace them with someone who will.

Yakko77 on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

GOP:

No repeal, no vote..no money.

Yes, it is that easy.

artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Hello GOP Leadership? Do you want the Tea Party Movement to turn into the Tea Party, Party? Then back away from the Repeal Obamacare message.

I’ve been a lifelong Republican, but I would consider running for office myself on a third party ticket if my party starts weaseling out on Repeal.

hburns on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

UGHaroo!

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

A bunch of hairless, stinky, foaming, yeast-infected “cats”.

SouthernGent on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Give it to them.

HondaV65 on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Is that h8 I smell on your post?

;-)

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

I thought the motto was to be “Repeal and replace.”

If possible, have the new bill and repeal be in one bill. Then there’s no gap or reversion to pre-Obamacare to which the Dems can point as they bring out the uninsured crippled child with the poor widowed mother.

Wethal on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Memo to GOP: How about,take a extra day,for a re-think,
on the repeal!!

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:22 PM

A bunch of hairless, stinky, foaming, yeast-infected “cats”.

SouthernGent on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

*snort

I’m stealing this!

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:22 PM

At their own peril. Too early for them to come out with this game plan. It will result in zero dollars to the establishment and individual committed repealer’s coffers overflowing.

Youngs98 on March 31, 2010 at 9:23 PM

I don’t think full repeal is possible for the simple fact that the legislation has so many second and third-order consequences already changing regulations.

With the exception of prohibition which took two Constitutional amendments, has any enacted law ever been fully repealed? And for the smarty-pants that would suggest slavery meets this criteria, if that were the case, why is there still a civil rights act that is constantly being re-affirmed? Especially with a black President.

highhopes on March 31, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Yeah, what are the chances that the American colonies can EVER win freedom from King George? People would die and stuff.

I guess we should just shut up and pay the damn taxes and go quietly into that dark night.

Right?

Guys like Cornyn (and McCain, for that matter) make me want to weep until I puke.

disa on March 31, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Another brilliant mistake by the GOP “leaders”. Clearly they have been in DC too long.

jbh45 on March 31, 2010 at 9:17 PM

You want to know what the real problem with the GOP leaders is? Follow the trail of the ‘consultants’ they employ. These inside-the-beltway so-called experts did not have a single plan on how to defeat the Democrats post Obama’s inauguration. Yet they sought to bask in the Tea Party’s grassroot uprising and electoral victories. They have reverted back to form using the same old strategies that lost them the Hose and Senate in 2006 and 2008.
But as we did last year, repeal will come from the grassroots and these squishy RINOs will jump on just to save their own hides.

TheRightMan on March 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM

People never really vote against something, but instead need to vote for something. Running on repeal alone isn’t going to sway the number of voters needed to take Congress away from the Dems.

The Pubs need a solid workable plan of replacement for this boondoggle; they can’t leave a vacuum. They need a solid policy, clearly spelled out to the public, and explain over and over why their plan is better than what was rammed through against the People by the Dems. The Pubs need strong answers to Dem lies that are sure to be told, in concise wording so the points are driven home and made to stick in people’s minds.

In short, the Pubs need a multi-pronged counter to O-Care, constantly repeated.

Liam on March 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM

why is there still a civil rights act that is constantly being re-affirmed?

Because there was once slavery, and there are still black people and people with some black blood.

We will be paying their descendants until the end of time, and nothing we do will ever satisfy them.

disa on March 31, 2010 at 9:27 PM

LOL… Duh.

What did you expect from the unprincipled, uninspired GOP mopes (who, as you might recall, we have to thank for Obamanation)?

Only Nullification will save us from Big Medical System, and restore our Constitutional republic. Just do it!

The GOP better think hard on this ….. I wouldn’t want to see a 3rd party candidate in 2012 ,,,,,!

HadaAbeche on March 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Political Stockholm Syndrome much?

Rae on March 31, 2010 at 9:27 PM

A bunch of hairless, stinky, foaming, yeast-infected “cats”.

SouthernGent on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM
—————————–
*snort

I’m stealing this!

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:22

MeatHeadinCA:Heres a pic,of some kitties,that look like they
been *Brazilianized*!!:)
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canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM

A bunch of hairless, stinky, foaming, yeast-infected “cats”.

SouthernGent on March 31, 2010 at 9:21 PM

I was gonna go with flaccid, but that works too.

HornetSting on March 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM

No sense waiting for the actual battle before waving the white flag. Profiles in courage, all of ‘em.

Cicero43 on March 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM

MeatHeadinCA:Heres a pic,of some kitties,that look like they
been *Brazilianized*!!:)
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http://www.freewebs.com/khat56/seal%20&%20blk%20wht.jpg

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Stealing that too! Someone needs to crack open the lotion!

Hey, when are you gonna come join us???

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:30 PM

i thought the CBS poll said 62% wanted the Rs to continue opposing the bill? these guys are dopes. inside the beltway drones.

sbvft contributor on March 31, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Called it.

You’re all worked up now, but you’ll move on to something else in a few months.

crr6 on March 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I hate these freakin people.

Mormon Doc on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Isn’t that odd that we have the liberals actually firing up the conservative movement, and certain people in the GOP getting ready to throw cold water on it? What a friggin’ momentum killer this could be.

Did no one in the GOP learn the lessons of 2006 and 2008?!?! Get in there and FIGHT, dammit!!

If the GOP can’t close ranks and speak with ONE voice and with ONE purpose at this moment in history, then when exactly can it ever do so?

OneVision on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

GOP:

No repeal, no vote..no money.

Yes, it is that easy.

artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

That’s a keeper.

Yakko77 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

This may be on the Fox News site, but it’s an Ape Pee story (read DemocRat).
It’s psy-ops for us to back down.
Don’t comply!

Repeal, reform and replace!
(And Cornyn can kiss my a$$ if he’s going to be a weenie!)

Jenfidel on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

And there’s the difference between the two parties. One will go to any lengths to accomplish their goals. The other wrings it’s hands and wonders how it will play with the electorate. What a bunch of spineless weanies. Too bad the system is rigged for the two parties.

RobbBond on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM
—————————–
Stealing that too! Someone needs to crack open the lotion!

Hey, when are you gonna come join us???

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:30 PM

MeatHeadinCA: Face Book!!!!:)

canopfor on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Are we sure we want to do another round of “let`s teach the GOP a lesson?” It ended up getting us ObamaCare.

I`m hoping it`s alame attempt to woo indies then after November they`ll pick up the charge to repeal.

ThePrez on March 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Called it.

You’re all worked up now, but you’ll move on to something else in a few months.

crr6 on March 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but damn you’re not the sharpest knife are you?

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM

It begins: GOP inching skulking away from campaign to repeal ObamaCare

Cicero43 on March 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM

I vote in favor of renaming the republican party to “The French.”

Mormon Doc on March 31, 2010 at 9:33 PM

More important, say strategists from both parties, a fiercely repeal-the-bill stance might prove far less popular in a general election than in a conservative-dominated GOP primary, especially in states such as Illinois and California…

All politics is local.

portlandon on March 31, 2010 at 9:33 PM

I’m aware that repeal of this atrocity won’t be instant.

The message from voters to the GOP is, however long it takes, you are going to kill ObamaCare or you are finished. You are useless.

Repeal, as a consequence of a renewed defense of the principles of American liberty must be the new priority of the GOP! Get into office, gut ObamaCare and then throw ObamaCare in the trashbin of history. If we are “replacing” also, then replace with RyanCare.

If years of repeal effort is too much labor for these squishy RINO sweethearts then they need to be bounced on their ever lovin’ a$$e$. Get some cojones for once, GOP! We the voters are warning you.

Edouard on March 31, 2010 at 9:34 PM

So a bunch of wimpy, chicken-livered moderate Republicans will condemn American citizens to the ravages of ObamaCare because they fear they won’t pick up a couple of seats? These guys all need to go. They do not understand the fear and anger boiling up across this country among normal citizens who have had enough of this crap.

If they can’t get behind Repeal, reform and replace, they need to be voted out of office right along with the Dems.

MainelyRight on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Note to GOP Leadership:

We should be talking about building down the government in all areas, at drastic levels. If you can’t talk about getting rid of the newest and most monstrous monstrosity, how can we expect you to do the hard work on Social security and Medicare?

And if we can’t trust you to do that, we will find people who we can trust. Bet your collective arse on it.

JohnGalt23 on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Someone please tell me how the R’s are different from the D’s. Once again the GOP has figured a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

thomasaur on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Actually, nuts to this. I am going to start my own country. If Big Boss can do it I’m pretty sure I can do it too.

Gatsu on March 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Can I come?

BitterClinger on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

So the RNC is losing monetary support from the Social Cons, and now the Fiscal Cons will be screaming at them too?

And people wonder why rumblings of a third party keep coming up.

portlandon on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

The voters will stay worked up. You can count on it. Indies too. Why do you need big Gov to be your daddy? Take care of yourself loser.

CWforFreedom on March 31, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Someone please tell me how the R’s are different from the D’s. Once again the GOP has figured a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

thomasaur on March 31, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Hey, there you are!

Someone was looking for you earlier.

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Yes, I do feel lucky. It worked in Mass. and it will work nationwide. This is called paralysis by analysis. JUST DO IT!

Vince on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

I`m hoping it`s alame attempt to woo indies then after November they`ll pick up the charge to repeal.

ThePrez on March 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Indies support repeal.

artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

CRR you really are dim. America is ready to roll on this and it will be fun to watch. You are about as idiotic as the GOP leadership who thought MCCAIN was the man. Wow aren’t you smart. L friggin OL.

CWforFreedom on March 31, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Oh yes, let’s do the Democrats a big favor and find a reason to turn on each other.

The truth is repeal of the whole bill might be difficult, however they can run on the deficit and size of government and entitlement reform in general..they do not have to get caught up in some battle that might actually be won in the courts anyway.

There will be plenty of things to run on.

But hey, why pass up an opportunity to complain and doubt and threaten to start a third party or not vote…as for the courage of the moderates or whatever, thus far they have stood together in defiance of this bill moderates included.

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

What a magnificent couple of disappointments my Texas senators have proven to be. I’m greatly sorrowed by Kay Bailey’s decision to renege on her retirement and Cornyn’s emergence as an invertabrate. I’ll contribute to decent primary challengers when the time comes.

These jerks don’t get it. Their priority is taking back their partisan political power, ours is taking back our country.

obladioblada on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Hey, there you are!

Someone was looking for you earlier.

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Developing a drug and alcohol rehab center with my church so I was in meetings this afternoon after setting beaver traps in the morning. I had to cancel my trip to the TP Express, Spring is starting to spring so there’s no rest for the weary.

thomasaur on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

The Old Boss was just on Hannity…

SNAP!

Seven Percent Solution on March 31, 2010 at 9:40 PM

artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

O.k. They`re the Grand Old Pu***es then.

ThePrez on March 31, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Mark Steyn was right: health care reform modeled along European lines is a truly transformative event, especially when the right-wing, conservative opposition refuses to oppose and becomes a little less right-wing and conservative, much like British Tories. The Republican Party is seemingly seeking an accommodation with the new left-of-center, socialist reality, I suppose, furnishing candidates who promise to be more efficient and cost-conscious caretakers of massive entitlement programs completely antithetical to individual liberty, free enterprise, and a less-is-better approach to government. My view? If the GOP doesn’t fight this thing tooth and nail, it’ll go the way of the Whigs.

We don’t need a nuanced state-to-state campaign strategy. We need Republican candidates and elected officials who actually stand on principle, don’t hang out in shady nightclubs, don’t cheat on their spouses, and don’t participate in backroom deals and outright corruption. It is pathetic and ridiculous we cannot seem to find such men and women.

troyriser_gopftw on March 31, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Developing a drug and alcohol rehab center with my church so I was in meetings this afternoon after setting beaver traps in the morning. I had to cancel my trip to the TP Express, Spring is starting to spring so there’s no rest for the weary.

thomasaur on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Well, that’s nice. Come visit us when you have a chance :D

MeatHeadinCA on March 31, 2010 at 9:40 PM

CRR you really are dim. America is ready to roll on this and it will be fun to watch. You are about as idiotic as the GOP leadership who thought MCCAIN was the man. Wow aren’t you smart. L friggin OL.

CWforFreedom on March 31, 2010 at 9:38 PM

It was not the leadership who voted for McCain, it was the rank and file Republicans. I am not talking about who is smart and who is not, but the truth is the folks here are not necessarily indicative of all Republican voters.

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:41 PM

They don’t have to repeal it. Just gut it by not funding it. But then that’ll take gonads, too. “We can’t risk losing those moderates and independents by doing something rash like refusing to fund a program which has the potential of becoming popular…”

ddrintn on March 31, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Cornyn. See, right there is your problem… and I’m from Texas!

Don’t know if he or KBH comes up for kicking out first, but I hope we show BOTH of them the door and get Williams and Williams II (whoever that is) in there. I’m sick of writing to these two, knowing they are more beholden to their own egos and the special interests than they are to me.

UnderstandingisPower on March 31, 2010 at 9:43 PM

The GOP is scared out of their minds that they must go along with some of the obama health law or they won’t get elected and this is known throughout the party. But what parts should they embrace? The hell with the constituents we want our jobs to continue. Yeah we hear you and the BS you will throw at us this summer is just that,BS. You RHINO’s are gone. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

mixplix on March 31, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Called it.

You’re all worked up now, but you’ll move on to something else in a few months.

crr6 on March 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

You are mistaken.

The health care industry is being turned upside down.

Doctors will be leaving in droves; first item on the agenda is that many are already deciding to stop taking MediCare patients even as we speak because reimbursements are about to be drastically slashed with no “Fix.”

ObamaCare does not train one new doctor to replace the “Disappeared.”

Because this new avalanche of federal decree is not about better medicine.

There are so many Americans, both health-care providers and health-care consumers, whose lives changed for the worse on March 21, 2010.

These people won’t be “moving on to something else,” pal.

Edouard on March 31, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Called it.

You’re all worked up now, but you’ll move on to something else in a few months.

crr6 on March 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM
crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

And you called it wrong. A trait of your ideology, by the way.

ddrintn on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

GOP Leadership = Idiots.

I guess they can’t even read opinion polls correctly anymore.

tetriskid on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

SPINELESS.

fossten on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Repeat after me:

NO THIRD PARTY!

visions on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

This country is dead. This is how it happens. This makes me very sad.

jimmy the notable on March 31, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Repeat after me:

NO THIRD PARTY!

visions on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

THEN GET THESE A**HOLES IN LINE.

tetriskid on March 31, 2010 at 9:45 PM

I`m hoping it`s alame attempt to woo indies then after November they`ll pick up the charge to repeal.

ThePrez on March 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Indies support repeal.

artist on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM

It should be remembered all of this is rumor thus far, we don’t know what they are going to do or if there is any truth in all this talk anyway. People are just taking some remarks out of hand or whatever and building a whole strategy on it. I would say that if people kept up the pressure it would go a long way to pushing the issue. This is going to take awhile.

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:46 PM

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Hey yeah! Big tent! Let’s nominate McCain again, that went great last time!

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fossten on March 31, 2010 at 9:46 PM

We have to get these guys in their primaries. The question needs to be asked, “do you intend to repeal it?” If they dodge the question or answer anything other then yes, then they need to be ousted in the primary.

#2, Steel has GOT TO GO!!!!!

The GOP seems content to sit on their rears and count on our discontent to get them elected… they need to get a wake up call quickly!

JLM-Hokie on March 31, 2010 at 9:46 PM

The GOP isn’t worried about losing votes on this issue. They’re worried about losing pork. Their place at the trough.

This is a classic example of how entrenched, inbred, corrupted, twisted, cynical, dirty, myopic, self-serving, uncaring and utterly useless the party establishment has become. Did I miss any adjectives?

Ozwitch on March 31, 2010 at 9:46 PM

GOP Leadership = Idiots.

I guess they can’t even read opinion polls correctly anymore.

tetriskid on March 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM

How do we know any of this is even true anyway?

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Oh yes, let’s do the Democrats a big favor and find a reason to turn on each other.

The truth is repeal of the whole bill might be difficult, however they can run on the deficit and size of government and entitlement reform in general..they do not have to get caught up in some battle that might actually be won in the courts anyway.

There will be plenty of things to run on.

But hey, why pass up an opportunity to complain and doubt and threaten to start a third party or not vote…as for the courage of the moderates or whatever, thus far they have stood together in defiance of this bill moderates included.

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:39 PM

It’s not all about Democrats and Republicans. It’s about a system of massive govt running your health care or a system where the private sector is the major player. This whole “repeal might be difficult” is a dumb argument and it hamstrings you before you’ve even begun. Passage of the bill was difficult, even with large majorities. Did the Democrats let that stop them? Of course not. They set their sights on their goal and they went about it – even though it took years. Everyone in this conservative movement (especially the politicians) needs to grow some stones and start playing hardball. The other side is playing it and has been for a while.

RobbBond on March 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM

I would rather fail in full repeal mode than succeed at allowing this legislation to further erode the foundations of our Constitutional Republic!

kagai on March 31, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Quite frankly, many of the tea party folks don’t understand the basics of politics. They’re convinced that if Republicans take back the House, they can repeal the healthcare bill completely. Once the Republicans take back the house, the tea party nuts will be going crazy because Republicans aren’t immediately starting impeachment proceedings or arent repealing the healthcare bill. At any meeting I go to, I always hear someone going on and on about impeachment. Those are fun conversations. “Impeachment for what? Because you don’t like him?”. They just dont get it.

NoStoppingUs on March 31, 2010 at 9:48 PM

If the Republicans insist on being Democrat-Lite then we’ll just have to vote for Conservatives to fill their seats. Just Like Obama has to sell this turkey, Republicans have to sell the idea they can reform it so it actually accomplishes its goals, is affordable, doesn’t contribute to the deficit and can be done.

Many of the politicans in charge are responsible for the state of the present Republican Party. They allowed the excessive spending, during the Republican years of control of Congress, and didn’t adhere to our principles. There are some saying they’ll segregate the good from the bad in this bill, but that’s a joke. It needs to be repealed and reformulated to accomplish what’s really necessary to improve our health care system and provide access to everyone.

Realistically, if insurance were removed from the employer and given to the employee, many of the portability problems would be solved. There are many solutions available so, if they’re afraid to do what’s necessary 2010 may not be enough, we just might need 2012. Let the protests continue.

bflat879 on March 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM

I would rather fail in full repeal mode than succeed at allowing this legislation to further erode the foundations of our Constitutional Republic!

kagai on March 31, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Thread winner.

fossten on March 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM

The GOP isn’t worried about losing votes on this issue. They’re worried about losing pork. Their place at the trough.

This is a classic example of how entrenched, inbred, corrupted, twisted, cynical, dirty, myopic, self-serving, uncaring and utterly useless the party establishment has become. Did I miss any adjectives?

Ozwitch on March 31, 2010 at 9:46 PM

This is not fair. Not one Republican even voted for this thing and thus far we have a guy who said some other said that maybe these other guys…and off to the races we go.

The truth is repealing a bill is not just a matter of getting votes. They need seats in the Congress, both Houses and a Republican in the White House to make that happen. Meanwhile the courts might actually end up killing the deal anyway. This is not something that is going to be resolved in a few months.

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Politically impossible on running to repeal the entire law. Pick the low hanging fruit and repeal it bit by bit. That’s the smart way to do it with public support.

Any politician going for full repeal runs the risk of making the same mistake as the politicians that crammed it down our collective throats.

Perception and reality are not always the same thing.

ButterflyDragon on March 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Quite frankly, many of the tea party folks don’t understand the basics of politics. They’re convinced that if Republicans take back the House, they can repeal the healthcare bill completely. Once the Republicans take back the house, the tea party nuts will be going crazy because Republicans aren’t immediately starting impeachment proceedings or arent repealing the healthcare bill. At any meeting I go to, I always hear someone going on and on about impeachment. Those are fun conversations. “Impeachment for what? Because you don’t like him?”. They just dont get it.

NoStoppingUs on March 31, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Aww, how cute, a concern troll. Tell me, what meetings have you been in where you hear about impeachment? Code pink?

fossten on March 31, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Wow! Just fracken wow!

This is like someone wanting to go AWOL and it’s only the first week of boot camp.

MB4 on March 31, 2010 at 9:51 PM

How do we know any of this is even true anyway?

Terrye on March 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Because since this story broke in the morning, not even one GOP leader has come out to deny it and reiterate repeal of the Obamacare mess.

TheRightMan on March 31, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Looks like the GOP’s donor-clients have figured out how to make money from ObamaCare and are whispering sweet nothings into the GOP’s ear….

PersonFromPorlock on March 31, 2010 at 9:51 PM

NoStoppingUs on March 31, 2010 at 9:48 PM

What the heck are you talking about. I’m betting you’ve never been to a tea party “meeting”!

Vince on March 31, 2010 at 9:51 PM

The headline should read:

“The GOP Unexpectedly Inching Away From Campaign to Repeal Socialism.”

. . . as unexpected as high unemployment and the sun rising tomorrow.

King of the Britons on March 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM

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