Democratic senator: Voting for ObamaCare was “political folly”

posted at 5:46 pm on March 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

You know it and I know it, but it’s always been an open question whether they know it too. I think Obama and Pelosi do. This was their chance to set the country on the path to welfare-state nirvana and they calculated — quite astutely — that it was worth sacrificing their majority to do so. Control of Congress will come and go, but a dependent electorate is forever. Whether the caucus and their idiot base calculated the same way or whether they really convinced themselves that the boondoggle to end all boondoggles was a political winner is more of a mystery. Or was. Via Geraghty, a tidbit from Howard Fineman:

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama, privately complained to me that the measure was political folly, in part because of the way it goes into effect: some taxes first, most benefits later, and rate hikes by insurance companies in between.

Besides that, this Democrat said, people who already have coverage will feel threatened and resentful about helping to cover the uninsured—an emotion they will sanitize for the polltakers into a concern about federal spending and debt.

On the day the president signed into law the “fix-it” addendum to the massive health-care measure, two new polls show just how fearful and skeptical Americans are about the entire enterprise. If the numbers stay where they are—and it’s not clear why they will change much between now and November—then the Democrats really are in danger of colossal losses at the polls.

I say this even though I was one of those who always said that Obama would get a bill passed—and that, politically, he personally had no choice but to get it done if he wanted to have a successful presidency. But his reputation as a can-do guy was purchased at a very high political cost.

So it was. In today’s new Gallup numbers, not only is his disapproval at 50 percent for the first time, 53 percent call the Democrats’ tactics “an abuse of power.” They didn’t end up using the Slaughter strategy, so I can only assume the “abuse” is a reference to the dealmaking and to using reconciliation to nuke the filibuster. Remember when the left assured us that voters never pay attention to the legislative sausage-making process? Keep that memory close to your heart in November too.

Now here’s where I do a little “I told you so.” New from CNN:

Fifty-five percent of Republicans questioned in the survey say they are now extremely or very enthusiastic about voting this November, up six points from January. Democrats are also up five points from January, with 36 percent of those questioned saying they are extremely or very enthusiastic about casting ballots in the midterms.

“The health care vote seems to have made some Democrats more eager to vote in November, but it has also activated more Republican voters, so the Democrats still face the same double-digit ‘enthusiasm gap’ they had before the vote,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

And so the big Democratic surge in enthusiasm, which nutroots pundits insisted made passing O-Care an absolute political necessity, ends up being less than the surge in enthusiasm among Republicans — as expected. In fact, the GOP actually picked up a point on the generic ballot after the bill passed. They lead 49/45 now overall and 53/35 among independents. And so, I wonder: Did the left ever really believe that the mother of all welfare-state incursions would produce a stronger reaction among Democrats than Republicans? Or was that cynical garbage they were pushing in hopes that some of the dimmer lights in the Democratic caucus would be scared by it? Let the debate rage.

I’ll leave you with this story at Politico quoting several left-leaning pollsters who predicted that there’d be little bounce, were vehemently challenged on it by Obama’s chump pollster, and now get to do the “pity of it all” head shake. Note the quote from Doug Schoen about the “marginal impact” passage will have on the base. Oh, and if you’re still angry at your Blue Dog congressman for gifting your children with this costly new liability, here’s a fun idea: Send him or her a commemorative Barack Obama health-care certificate. With some bus money, preferably, so he/she has transportation out of D.C. in January.


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go get’em…

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Among those officials: Jacob Sullivan, then deputy chief of staff and director of policy planning (and currently national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden); Victoria Nuland, then State Department spokesman; Raymond Maxwell, deputy assistant secretary of state for near east affairs; Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management; and Eric Boswell, former assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security.

Boom.

peski on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I wonder if these whistleblowers are included.

PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

…These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

…The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

…Regarding General Ham, military contacts of the diplomats tell them that AFRICOM had Special Ops “assets in place that could have come to the aid of the Benghazi consulate immediately (not in six hours).”

Ham was told by the White House not to send the aid to the trapped men, but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.”

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:08 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.

via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

As the investigation into the Obama administration’s handling of the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi intensifies, lawmakers on Capitol Hill are seeking to conduct transcribed interviews with thirteen top State Department officials in the coming weeks in order to learn more.

I don’t know the details of a transcribed interview. Will they be under oath?

Curtiss on May 23, 2013 at 8:11 PM

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Arrogant and narcissistic. He may think he’s completely untouchable because for his entire political life, he’s pretty much done whatever he wanted to do and gotten away with it.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

tru dat

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

So we’re coming up to hit about two full weeks of scandals?

Still more revelations every day as the stable doors burst open on this Augean Administration.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

i’m just gonna say it: Darell Issa is sexy!

GhoulAid on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Keeping up pressure is a fitting tribute for Memorial Day.

ajacksonian on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I have no confidence that Issa has what it takes to get to the truth of any of these scandals.

blue13326 on May 23, 2013 at 8:19 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.
via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

You are correct for once.

VegasRick on May 23, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Fiat justitia et ruant coeli
Let justice be done, though the heavens fall.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Note to ERIKA JOHNSEN: the “womp” is missing.r Please pick up the blue courtesy phone in the lobby.

ExpressoBold on May 23, 2013 at 8:33 PM

HAL, Sing daisy for us.

Can’t handle your messiah failing huh?

The next few weeks should be fun, well for us not you. You’ll soon be curled up in the fetal potition sucking your thumb.

Tissue?

D-fusit on May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Hillary will be back on her deathbed before she goes back to Congress. She wants to be President. She timed her last appearance (not under oath) so that it was just before her victory lap as the best SecState ever. She’s not going to willingly go back to Congress and have to answer the questions that the ARB should have asked if it were conducted by men of integrity instead of Mullen and Pickering.

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Well, we’ll see how that works out for the rat-eared traitor. Fewer and fewer supporters everyday as the scandals take their toll. It is only a matter of time before Bo denies that he knows this filthy corrupt bastard (literally).

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

ZOMG!!11!! HAL has become a Republican! Thank goodness! I was in fear for your almost-immortal soul. (You still owe time to Satan, for your years of apostasy).

Um, what was that…? HAL attempted sarcasm? Well, butter my butt, and call me a biscuit! And they told me libbabies don’t have a sense of humor! Good, HAL, good. In a few years, you might be eligible to apply for human race membership.

Your Libbiebers are going down in flames, HAL. Enjoy the weenie roast.

creekspecter on May 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Nobody is in jail yet. One vacation, and one 3 week early retirement.

I like the line,, but results would be good.

IRS agents in a supermax general population.

wolly4321 on May 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM

There’s been some concern[-trolling] that Republicans might be pushing their luck with the extent to which they are focusing on Scandalmania and especially the ongoing Benghazi debacle, but a CNN poll earlier this week confirmed that a healthy majority of 59 percent of Americans approve of the way Republicans have been handling the investigation…

We’ve hit a point in this country where political gamesmanship should not be considered. Even if the poll were not favorable, this is the hill to die on–because if someone does not reign in this out-of-control administration, there will be no more hills. When one party ruthlessly and brazenly abuses the power of the public offices it controls to punish its political enemies, what follows–barring some sort of intervention and house cleaning–is tyranny.

It is truly terrifying how far along that path we have slipped. I shudder to think what will happen if the Republicans let these egregious wrongs–these assaults against everything America stands for–go. It’s heartening that 59% of Americans get that. (Of course, it would be great if the percentage were higher, but I’m willing, all things considered, to see that in a glass-a-bit-past-half-full kind of way.)

And when I consider how I would react if this were a Republican administration rather than a Democrat one, I feel exactly the same way. I would want the guilty parties identified, removed from office, and suitably punished. Either we are a people that believes in the rule of law, or we are a people willing to be subject to the capricious desires of whoever happens to hold the most power.

May God help us, and may justice be done–no matter what polls say.

butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

are going to hold Secretary Kerry to his promise to run “an accountable and open State Department”:

Yeah? And what’s the ‘expiration date’ going to be on that “promise”?

GarandFan on May 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The backdrop for all this corruption is a media, an educational system, and an entertainment industry that all act as propagandists for one political party and one political ideology.

Imagine a theatre filled with an audience who have diverse political views. Yet the sound engineer, the lighting engineer, the actors, the musicians, the stage hands, the ushers, and the candy vendors all act in unison to promote one point of view.

This is the America that we live in today, and the GOP are to blame for sitting on their hands and allowing this situation to metastasize for the past 40 years, based on the idiot logic of “hey, we’re still winning our fair share of elections, so let’s stay above the fray”.

When the next Civil War begins, it can also be ended in one day. Just bomb the hell out of every college campus faculty lounge, every Hollywood studio, and the HQ of every MSM outlet, and then watch America slowly go back to normal.

Cut all three heads off of the snake.

ardenenoch on May 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Considering how dreadfully FEW were involved in last years elections I’m glad our remaining representatives are still taking their jobs seriously.

If more don’t start getting involved NOW I couldn’t blame them for letting these matters drop.

Let them eat cake, right?

DannoJyd on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 AM

…reign in…
butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Sorry–should be “rein in.” I’m going to blame it on a combination of tiredness, distraction, and the unsettling specter of a power-mad monarch looming over the future of this country. ;)

butterflies and puppies on May 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM

Nothing will happen for 11 days. Congress is adjourned for the Memorial DAY holiday. Only in govt will 1 holiday equal 11 days off.

Kissmygrits on May 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM

I would point out that by definition it extremely difficult to blackout the public and overwhelm them with information and talking about something at the same time.

I guess the Media’s take is that forcing the Media to say “move along nothing to see here”, enough times will irritate the public into voting against Republicans.

I think they also know the did the “move along nothing to see here thing” on Benghazi and they don’t wan’t other to understand how horribly wrong and biased they were to do that.

Personally I think that is really the media saying they don’t know if they can do those 2 things at the same time and so are hoping to steer everyone away from making them do this tightrope walk.

Conan on May 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM