Democratic senator: Voting for ObamaCare was “political folly”

posted at 5:46 pm on March 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

You know it and I know it, but it’s always been an open question whether they know it too. I think Obama and Pelosi do. This was their chance to set the country on the path to welfare-state nirvana and they calculated — quite astutely — that it was worth sacrificing their majority to do so. Control of Congress will come and go, but a dependent electorate is forever. Whether the caucus and their idiot base calculated the same way or whether they really convinced themselves that the boondoggle to end all boondoggles was a political winner is more of a mystery. Or was. Via Geraghty, a tidbit from Howard Fineman:

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama, privately complained to me that the measure was political folly, in part because of the way it goes into effect: some taxes first, most benefits later, and rate hikes by insurance companies in between.

Besides that, this Democrat said, people who already have coverage will feel threatened and resentful about helping to cover the uninsured—an emotion they will sanitize for the polltakers into a concern about federal spending and debt.

On the day the president signed into law the “fix-it” addendum to the massive health-care measure, two new polls show just how fearful and skeptical Americans are about the entire enterprise. If the numbers stay where they are—and it’s not clear why they will change much between now and November—then the Democrats really are in danger of colossal losses at the polls.

I say this even though I was one of those who always said that Obama would get a bill passed—and that, politically, he personally had no choice but to get it done if he wanted to have a successful presidency. But his reputation as a can-do guy was purchased at a very high political cost.

So it was. In today’s new Gallup numbers, not only is his disapproval at 50 percent for the first time, 53 percent call the Democrats’ tactics “an abuse of power.” They didn’t end up using the Slaughter strategy, so I can only assume the “abuse” is a reference to the dealmaking and to using reconciliation to nuke the filibuster. Remember when the left assured us that voters never pay attention to the legislative sausage-making process? Keep that memory close to your heart in November too.

Now here’s where I do a little “I told you so.” New from CNN:

Fifty-five percent of Republicans questioned in the survey say they are now extremely or very enthusiastic about voting this November, up six points from January. Democrats are also up five points from January, with 36 percent of those questioned saying they are extremely or very enthusiastic about casting ballots in the midterms.

“The health care vote seems to have made some Democrats more eager to vote in November, but it has also activated more Republican voters, so the Democrats still face the same double-digit ‘enthusiasm gap’ they had before the vote,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

And so the big Democratic surge in enthusiasm, which nutroots pundits insisted made passing O-Care an absolute political necessity, ends up being less than the surge in enthusiasm among Republicans — as expected. In fact, the GOP actually picked up a point on the generic ballot after the bill passed. They lead 49/45 now overall and 53/35 among independents. And so, I wonder: Did the left ever really believe that the mother of all welfare-state incursions would produce a stronger reaction among Democrats than Republicans? Or was that cynical garbage they were pushing in hopes that some of the dimmer lights in the Democratic caucus would be scared by it? Let the debate rage.

I’ll leave you with this story at Politico quoting several left-leaning pollsters who predicted that there’d be little bounce, were vehemently challenged on it by Obama’s chump pollster, and now get to do the “pity of it all” head shake. Note the quote from Doug Schoen about the “marginal impact” passage will have on the base. Oh, and if you’re still angry at your Blue Dog congressman for gifting your children with this costly new liability, here’s a fun idea: Send him or her a commemorative Barack Obama health-care certificate. With some bus money, preferably, so he/she has transportation out of D.C. in January.


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We already know that ’some’ (Conyers) admit to not reading or not understanding the legislation they vote on, so the country is now in the situation where a special interest group (union, PAC) write what they want, and Congress passes it?

No wonder Soros knows which way to trade ForEx! Is he selling big insurance companies short?

Skandia Recluse on March 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM

I think it’s a good guess that the House and Senate bills as rough drafts were already written. They’ve been trying to do this for a hundred years. All they have to do was customize it.

darwin on March 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Good for George. Too bad for us and millions of our fellow citizens.

Cody1991 on March 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Cody, please trust in your fellow Patriots. These things will not stand because they are against who We are as Americans and these things are abominations. These things will not stand. We, will always stand. Trust.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Always remember this: God is not mocked.Key West Reader on March 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM

I agree with you all the way.

carbon_footprint on March 30, 2010 at 6:52 PM

“I, Senator Who Cannot Be Named, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

“..er, except when I vote out of loyalty to my party and admiration for one other guy.”

Tuning Spork on March 30, 2010 at 6:55 PM

A Democratic senator I can’t name…

I’ve got a name for him…

labrat on March 30, 2010 at 7:02 PM

MB4 on March 30, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Thanks MB4. I just put that quote on my FB.

Mirimichi on March 30, 2010 at 7:03 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM
that kiss song doesn’t apply?

cmsinaz on March 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM

cmsinaz: Ya,I might of over-reached on that,got caught up
with the strutt’n part,my bad:)

canopfor on March 30, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Cody, please trust in your fellow Patriots. These things will not stand because they are against who We are as Americans and these things are abominations. These things will not stand. We, will always stand. Trust.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Sorry to sound so extreme although I do despair at times. It is temporary. I just hope we can keep people motivated until November and beyond.

Anyway, Soros and his pals have one goal in mind and that is to subjugate the American people. We’re a bit unruly and outspoken, dont’cha know?!

After the 2004 election Soros stomped off declaring that he wouldn’t bother with American politics any longer because it was a waste of his money. He always lies, and that was a ruse to put people off their mark. He doubled down, and he knew that the financial collapse was imminent. Heck, he even owned a bunch of Lehman Brothers bonds…. nice cover, eh?

This guy should never, ever have been granted US citizenship. It wouldn’t have stopped him from interfering, but it would have made it more difficult.

Cody1991 on March 30, 2010 at 7:05 PM

When, prior to Obama, have so many Americans, particularly Americans in elected office, come to admire a person with so few prior accomplishments?

Ira on March 30, 2010 at 6:09 PM

The last time I can recall was when a lot of people admired Joe Izussu.

MB4 on March 30, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Interesting comparison, MB4. According to Wikipedia,

“Joe Isuzu was a fictional spokesman used in a series of television advertisements for Isuzu. Created by the Madison Avenue ad agency Della Femina, Travisano, and Partners, the segments aired on American television in 1986-90, reaching their zenith in 1987 after the character was featured during Super Bowl XXI. Played by actor David Leisure (Empty Nest), Joe Isuzu was a pathological liar who made outrageous and overinflated claims about Isuzu’s cars. (One commercial even cast him as the Boy who Cried Wolf.) The campaign was resurrected briefly in 1999 and continued until 2001 to promote several cars such as the Isuzu Axiom.”

But for the “resurrected” part, looks like an apt analogy.

Ira on March 30, 2010 at 7:08 PM

The health care vote seems to have made some Democrats more eager to vote in November..

Wait until they see how much this crap sandwich costs them, and how their healthcare is negatively effected.

They’ll vote alright, but it might not be for one of Obambi’s disciples in congress.

BacaDog on March 30, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Front loading the taxes on working Americans and business’ to insure a bunch of deadbeats and illegals. Wrecking a private insurance industry that was acceptable to a solid majority of users.
All for the sake of kissing the ass of this socialist president.
By the time this fiscal bomb fully detonates, Obama will lucky to carry the District of Columbia.
Until then- see you in November, Democrats.

jjshaka on March 30, 2010 at 7:13 PM

Nothing is going to stop me from voting this year. Bye Bye Democrats. Thanks for nothing.

WyoMike on March 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia and Alito are on the ball here. I can’t imagine that they don’t see the clear constitutional violations in this bill.

labrat on March 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Love the Dim meme about how Americans oppose Obamacare because we resent paying to “help” the uninsured.

The uninsured who are actually poor were already eligible for taxpayer assistance through programs like Medicaid and S-CHIP.

And there are lots of wealthy “uninsured” who are now going to be getting “helped” through Obamacare because there are no income limits for the beneficiaries of guaranteed issue. So, for example, some bond trader making a million dollars a year who has a kid with some expensive-to-treat preexisting condition (which was consequently not covered by daddy’s health insurance and which daddy has been paying for out-of-pocket) is now going to get guaranteed health insurance for his kid’s condition that is effectively going to be subsidized by secretaries and bus drivers and plumbers who make a fraction of what the bond trader makes.

But hey, America, you shouldn’t resent having your income redistributed in this manner by the government. After all, they’re so much smarter and better than the rest of us.

AZCoyote on March 30, 2010 at 7:17 PM

So Dems that win districts 92-8 will now win 97-3 thanks to the energized base. But Dems that won 52-48 will now lose 52-48 thanks to the energized Rep base.

Yeah, good call there Nancy/Harry.

angryed on March 30, 2010 at 7:22 PM

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama complete and utter bonehead

Why use 24 words when four will do?

SagebrushPuppet on March 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia and Alito are on the ball here. I can’t imagine that they don’t see the clear constitutional violations in this bill.

labrat on March 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia nor Alito retire before Jan 20, 2013.

connectthedots on March 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

After folks got steamed at the stimulus, shook their heads at cash 4 clunkers, and then got royally PO’d at health care… next up: AMNESTY!

Just how is the population supposed to ‘forget’ these things and ‘settle down’ if they are never given a chance to do so? Somehow all these ‘good things’ that the Democrats want that will ‘be forgotten’ are not getting forgotten and not calming things down…

And I will not be supporting any Ratchet Republican that just wants to ‘manage government’ better than the Democrats. Sorry, this is rollback time and I want to hear that word from the lips of any dipstick I’m voting for. Republicans a quart low need not apply… ditto Democrats although they are now starting out two quarts low…

Rollback and stop funding this beast.

That goes beyond health care. Dept of Education, EPA, Energy, Agriculture, NEA… they could all use a fasting diet for a couple of years to shrivel them up. Rollback. Just because its on the books doesn’t mean it needs to be funded. Stop this insanity by starving the beast.

ajacksonian on March 30, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Excited to vote, maybe. I know I’d crawl over razor blades and swim in lemon juice to vote against these pendejos. I’d submit to anything to vote against them. I’m not excited. I want to get them, my pretties, and their little dogs, too!!!!

Sekhmet on March 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

The entire Soetoro presidency/govt. takeover has been planned for the entire 4 years. Things are going right on schedule, the takeovers of the financial and automotive industries, studen loans and the entire health care system, all in just 14 months of the most racially devisive presidency ever.

Now comes energy and immigration. And the ways in which the people can be marginalized and silenced are already being deployed – we even have the Speaker of the House and various Congressmen parading through throngs of agitated American citizens in the hopes of filming a racial slur or something worse. When it didn’t materialize, they lied and said it did and accused conservatives of being brickthrowers and obscene callers in various districts around the country. And, let’s not forget the Christians arrested at the order of Big Sis last weekend with the govt. using “sealed warrants.”

This is all just a warm up for the main event – which will be a crisis or series of crises – foreign and/or domestic manufactured by agent provocatuers, the first of these being soetoro himself who seems intent upon pushing Isreal into oblivion. IMO, there is a definate plan in place to put a stop to the November elections, while Plan B, to steal the elections in many locations, will always be there should we manage to avoid a Kristallnacht(s) or Reishtag burning(s). But I think that the plan calls for a November without elections and the chess pieces are moving rapidly toward that end. Meanwhile, the GOP rooks are on the ropes…

tigerlily on March 30, 2010 at 7:49 PM

loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama,

This says it all re the brilliance of this doofus.

Dingbat63 on March 30, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Forgot to mention the centerpiece: the complete destruction of the economy and middle class through taxes, trillion dollar deficits, regulation and continued govt. takeover of businesses of all stripes. Once the USA falls to the earth, soetoro moves on (he thinks, but his useful idiocy will have run it’s course and the dark powers who pull his strings will no longer need him) to his place as King of the New World order, having vanquished the only nation and freedom loving people that were standing in the way of the glorious Global Government.

tigerlily on March 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia nor Alito retire before Jan 20, 2013.

connectthedots on March 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

We’d also better be on our knees praying for their (and even Justice Kennedy’s) health and personal security. I put nothing past this administration or it’s acolytes, and they know full well that the transformation they desire for our country could very well be stopped dead in its tracks by these five.

TXUS on March 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia nor Alito retire before Jan 20, 2013.

connectthedots on March 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Amen to that!

labrat on March 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Where’s the 10% BOUNCE that Clinton said Barry would get on passing the bill?

GarandFan on March 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

In his farewell address, Washington warned against the danger of political factions. He knew that there was always the risk of legislators feeling greater loyalty towards their party than towards their constituents and the nation. That’s exactly what happened here with this senator and many of his fellows. He and his pals will get their comeuppance in November.

Matt Helm on March 30, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Where’s the 10% BOUNCE that Clinton said Barry would get on passing the bill?

GarandFan on March 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Turned out to be a dribble.

Aviator on March 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM

If you drop a dead cat off of a 10 story building it does not bounce.

ajacksonian on March 30, 2010 at 8:13 PM

That certificate – it is to puke. I thought surely it was a parody at first.

Alana on March 30, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Like lambs to the slaughter, Democrats do not understand Obama’s objective – to destroy America as we know it.

Exit question: will the good guys foil the plot at the last minute? Stay tuned!

disa on March 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama complete and utter bonehead

Why use 24 words when four will do?

SagebrushPuppet on March 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Its 5 words. Notwithstanding that, I do a great deal of technical writing….sure could use those editing skills.

BobMbx on March 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Like lambs to the slaughter, Democrats do not understand Obama’s objective – to destroy America as we know it.

Exit question: will the good guys foil the plot at the last minute? Stay tuned!

disa on March 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Remember when we were kids, and we really wanted to do something…because all the cool kids were doing it?

What did our parents say? “So, if Johnny jumped off a cliff, would you do it too?”

Liberals = Never got the “Johnny” treatment from their parents.

And Johnny Obama has just leaped right over the edge.

BobMbx on March 30, 2010 at 8:28 PM

nothing says that htose dems more ready to vote in nov are for the healthcare bill. It sis just as likely that some of those dems now are fired up to vote against those that voted for this monster of a bill. all dems are not socialists just their leaders

unseen on March 30, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Sure, sure, things go up and down. Parties rise and fall. Blah, blah, blah.

But… a majority of Americans are now on the dole. And the welfare mentality is deeply ingrained, even amongst the producers. People will continue to vote for politicians who are handing out the goodies.

Politicians will continue to concentrate on their prime directive, which is to get re-elected. They will perpetuate and expand the welfare state, because the populace demands it- look how, even now, Medicare and Social Security are still considered as sacred cows that have to be saved rather than the unsustainable and culturally damaging boondoggles that they are and that never should have been created.

The country will go bankrupt and collapse.

Rebuilding will begin*.

This happy ending, however, depends on a world filled with benevolent nations rather than vultures who will scavenge the spoils when things collapse. And I’m just sure that Russia, China, whoever, will not be interested in getting their piece of the carcass that was the former USA.

Think Atlas Shrugged, but now including a key part that was left unmentioned in the book- ravenous enemies at the gates who will be all too happy to pluck at the carcass of the former USA.

The solution would be a widespread acknowledgement and acceptance of the fact that socialism, collectivism, statism, what have you, is destructive and not compatible with a strong, prosperous and independent nation, followed by a planned and intentional dismantling of the welfare state. Sure…that will happen…what could possibly go wrong?

justltl on March 30, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Nobody reads long posts like that, so let me summarize briefly:

We’re phuqued.

justltl on March 30, 2010 at 8:36 PM

he personally had no choice but to get it done if he wanted to have a successful presidency

With Dems it is all about the presidency…not about America.

redwhiteblue on March 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/03/30/americas-quiet-anger

Remember in November!
The American People are NOT amused and the incoherant ramblings, legislating, outright lies, bribery, and theft will not go unrewarded!

Vote them out! With a vengence! And never trust the party that ushered them in again!

dhunter on March 30, 2010 at 10:22 PM

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama

This is absolutely sickening. Party and king before country.

29Victor on March 30, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Reading all these comments encourages me about the prospects of Republican( off course – including Conservative and Tea party ) VICTORY WITH GOOD GAINS. But do I have this feeling of Doom and Gloom also??? I have aStrong GUT Churnning feeling that Mr. Obama will pull it off a Miraculous comeback just like DEAD HEALTH CARE BILL!!!
he looks confident, unfazed and strong!!! Because may be his ARMY of 2 millions SEIU soldiers, Fsrrahkhans million man army and ACORN EVEN IF THEY ARE PLAYING DEAD NOW will ressurect by the time of election and take the country by storm and use every chicago political machine tactics and some of his organizing capabilities to demolish Republicans and any other opposition!!!!! DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE HIM, PLEASE!!!! 45% %-46% of the american people he has Permenantly BRAINWASHED AND will do any thing for him. Folks, it is not going to be easy!! Be extremely alert!!!

deeshant48 on March 30, 2010 at 11:53 PM

Send him or her a commemorative Barack Obama health-care certificate.

Careful there, AP. If a congressman actually receives one of those, the media will say it was meant as a threat to his well-being. Chris Matthews will be demand your arrest for incitement.

thebriand on March 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM

Interesting, a surge in Democrat enthusiasm. So my first question is, are they fired up to support dem leadership? OR ARE THEY FIRED UP TO FIRE THEM?

JusDreamin on March 31, 2010 at 12:39 AM

My new 2010 election slogan:
“A vote for a Democrat is a vote for a Progressive Socialist”.

I hope it catches on. If it does it’ll be a tsunami against this soft tyranny…..

Long live the Constitution!!!!!!

adamsmith on March 31, 2010 at 7:45 AM

Political folly senator? Ya think? Pack your bags chump!!! DLTDHYITA!

nukeemnow on March 31, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Who wrote the Bill?

Skandia Recluse on March 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

One of the authors is a freakin’ lib Senator from NJ. Figures.

NJ Red on March 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM

A Democratic senator I can’t name, who reluctantly voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to his party and his admiration for Barack Obama, privately complained to me that the measure was political folly, in part because of the way it goes into effect: some taxes first, most benefits later, and rate hikes by insurance companies in between.

Any speculation on who this Senator might be? Based on the “his”, probably not endangered Senators Blanche Lincoln or Mary Landrieu or Claire McCaskill, but who? Ben Nelson? Maybe, who’da thunk it, Harry Reid?

Steve Z on March 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Nobody reads long posts like that, so let me summarize briefly:

We’re phuqued.

justltl on March 30, 2010 at 8:36 PM

The French word “phoque” (pronounced like the F-bomb) means “seal”.

Does that mean that our fate is sealed?

Steve Z on March 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM

I hope and pray that Roberts, Thomas, Scalia and Alito are on the ball here. I can’t imagine that they don’t see the clear constitutional violations in this bill.

labrat on March 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM

No doubts about those four being “on the ball”. But what about Anthony Kennedy?

Steve Z on March 31, 2010 at 10:06 AM

I would give up seven months of my life and be that much closer to death if it could be November right now.

max1 on March 31, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Remember in November!

+1

bumper stickers and t-shirts please…

max1 on March 31, 2010 at 10:19 AM

I have a Dream here …

Take back the house and Senate – it won’t be enough to override VETO … yes, yes … I know.

But if we can pulverize Obama to the point he’s no longer a viable candidate in 2012 for the Democrats – maybe we can get some remaining Dems in Congress to work to repeal and replace.

That’s my dream.

And no – I’m not smoking anything … somehow I dreamed up that whole impossible scenario in my completely lucid brain.

One can hope though? No?

HondaV65 on March 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM

NOW he wants to drill for oil offshore. Trying to turn the tide after hanging $3.00/gal gas around our necks. We don’t need new offshore wells. We already have capped wells. Take a look at North Dakota. The Bakken formation is producing and making millionaires of the Indians there. The place is booming. Nobody is talking about it. I have a friend from there. Someone needs to tell the public what the real deal is. The Russians are already squirming about our natural gas production and we could cut off OPEC altogether.

LarryG on March 31, 2010 at 12:46 PM

people who have coverage will feel threatened and resentful about helping to cover the uninsured—an emotion they will sanitize for the polltakers into a concern about federal spending and debt.

Why do they always have to turn it into something it isn’t?
What the hell is wrong with them? We’re either racists, idiots, or threatened and resentful. It’s never what has been plainly and clearly presented to them: We CAN’T AFFORD THIS CRAP NOR DO WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT INTRUDING IN OUR LIVES!

Rod on March 31, 2010 at 1:00 PM

The French word “phoque” (pronounced like the F-bomb) means “seal”.

Does that mean that our fate is sealed?

Steve Z on March 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Well, for me, it means I think I’ll have fish tonight instead of tomorrow. ARF! ARF!

Rod on March 31, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.

Alexis de Tocqueville

Huckabye-Romney on March 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

Alexis de Tocqueville

Huckabye-Romney on March 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Above this race of men stands an immense and tutelary power, which takes upon itself alone to secure their gratifications and to watch over their fate. That power is absolute, minute, regular, provident, and mild. It would be like the authority of a parent if, like that authority, its object was to prepare men for manhood; but it seeks, on the contrary, to keep them in perpetual childhood: it is well content that the people should rejoice, provided they think of nothing but rejoicing. For their happiness such a government willingly labors, but it chooses to be the sole agent and the only arbiter of that happiness; it provides for their security, foresees and supplies their necessities, facilitates their pleasures, manages their principal concerns, directs their industry, regulates the descent of property, and subdivides their inheritances: what remains, but to spare them all the care of thinking and all the trouble of living?

Alexis de Tocqueville on “soft” despotism in a democratic society

Huckabye-Romney on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

“………..generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.”
Barrack Obama.

Barrack DOES understand the Constitutional basics; And he pushed his health care through even though he knew it was unconstitutional.
And so did his Congressional cronies.

Cybergeezer on March 31, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Huckabye-Romney on March 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM

I have a copy of that book being delivered tomorrow.
Let me suggest “George Washington on Leadership”, by Richard Brookhiser.

Cybergeezer on March 31, 2010 at 2:02 PM

So get this: my friend lives in Elgin, IL and got a robo call from Bill Foster asking her to call him back and THANK him for passing the health care reform!!!!!

!!!!!

Hubris.

Queen0fCups on March 31, 2010 at 2:17 PM

This was their chance to set the country on the path to welfare-state nirvana and they calculated — quite astutely — that it was worth sacrificing their majority to do so. Control of Congress will come and go, but a dependent electorate is forever.

I’m visualizing a bizzaro-world analogue to the forming of our country, where instead of Benjamin Franklin, it’s Nancy Pelosi, and the bystander asks her:

“Madame Speaker, what form of polity is it that you’ve given us?”

She replies: “A dependent electorate… if you can keep it.”

VekTor on March 31, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Any word on how many of those “energized” Democrat voters are actually planning on voting Republican?

Count to 10 on March 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM

Besides that, this Democrat said, people who already have coverage will feel threatened and resentful about helping to cover the uninsured—an emotion they will sanitize for the polltakers into a concern about federal spending and debt.

So we don’t just have the “Thought Police” serving in Congress now we have the “Feeling Police” this Congressperson can tell what you feel, and why you behave the way you do. And guess what this Congressperson never has to speak to you to interpret your feelings. I bet this Congressperson has like a degree in psychoanalysis to/SARC IS ANYONE BESIDE ME TIRED OF THESE A$$ CLOWNS?

Dr Evil on March 31, 2010 at 4:38 PM

people who already have coverage will feel threatened and resentful about helping to cover the uninsured

People who don’t want to live in a WELFARE STATE -Banana Republic, and People who are not mooching off of other American Tax Payer’s Dollars, don’t feel threatened or resentful – they FEEL ANGRY. It’s called Capitalism, and many are more than happy with the system, and DON’T want to be Marxist “Each according to their ability, Each according to their need” IS The House of Representatives full of Lame Democrat Socialist Wannabees? Let’s look to Greece for our future, let’s follow that European Model…I hope whoever that statement is attributed to loses in November.

Dr Evil on March 31, 2010 at 4:44 PM

two new polls show just how fearful and skeptical Americans are about the entire enterprise.

What Americans are fearful and skeptical? Was Fineman really interviewing himself? This is BS…

The really HEADLINE “Democrat Representatives Sacrificed For Nothing – Bill Will Be Struck Down On The Merits Of Unconstitutionality”

And that’s not Fear or Skepticism – That’s in the Democrats FUTURE for CAVING into the Progressives, let’s all be European Socialist Agenda…oh sure I can’t wait till the USA is just like Greece/SARC.

Dr Evil on March 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Seppuku for sinners.

Jeff2161 on March 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

There is a nuance of honor in the term Seppuku. These scoundrels are not honorable and do not deserve an honorable end. They should just be thrown out with the garbage and trash.

belad on March 31, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Unnmamed as in “Jim Webb”.
Fineman’s a cretin.

TexasJew on March 31, 2010 at 5:07 PM

As much as I’d like to enter the discussion of this mess, my blood pressure can’t survive the ordeal as I write my disdain for liberals as a whole, and their supreme leader.

This, and the potential damage that can be done by them just within the remainder of this term, and the balance of The One’s first term has me seriously entertaining a relocation to Australia, which has long been a favorite destination of mine.

stacman on March 31, 2010 at 5:20 PM

The best way to use this will be to attribute the quote to whichever Democratic Senator you wish. For example:

“It’s my understanding, Senator ______, of (State) has admitted to the press he/she voted for the health-care bill out of loyalty to the Democrat party and out of admiration for Barack Obama.”

If this quote were to find its way onto blogsites on a daily basis, obviously with numerous different Senators being quoted as author, the results could be very humorous.

alwyr on March 31, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Heh.

Isn’t it a bit too late to notice that you’ve damned yourself?

The balance sheet adjustments by the those major corps is only the beginning.

They can polish that turd for a hundred years and it wouldn’t matter a wit.

stacman on March 31, 2010 at 5:20 PM

I hear ya.

From a historical POV, it’s lunacy and malice on a scale undreamt of.

CPT. Charles on March 31, 2010 at 6:09 PM

I don’t see things happening in a very rosy fashion right now. Obama’s strong approval v. strong disapproval is up to -8 on Rasmussen today (the day before HCR passed it was -21). Gallup approval is up to 50% today.

Meanwhile, it seems like the McCain/Graham progressive faction of the Republicans have given up the ghost on repeal and replace. Bob Corker has now given a statement that HCR will not be repealed.

Corker sure has been all bi-partisany of late. Maybe the voters of Tennessee better start looking at moving Marsha Blackburn up to the Senate. I’d like to keep the status quo at least in conservative female Senators when KB Hutchison retires in 2012.

Seems like the Republicans up there went right back to not listening to the citizens of our country as soon as they got a little pushback. I wish they’d learn that in this political milieu, being called a RAAAAA=CIST is a badge of honor.

Greyledge Gal on March 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Oh, and if you’re still angry at your Blue Dog congressman for gifting your children with this costly new liability, here’s a fun idea: Send him or her a commemorative Barack Obama health-care certificate. With some bus money, preferably, so he/she has transportation out of D.C. in January.

I’m old school. Torches, pitchforks, tar, and feathers.

highhopes on March 31, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Political folly? What an understatement. Let’s hope that it is the key to the total distruction of the marxist/progressive movement.

Just in case it is not the total distruction of this anti-American movement, honor the second amendment. Buy rifles, guns and ammo.

BottomLine5 on March 31, 2010 at 10:42 PM

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