Video: Who’s on first, Congressional-style

posted at 12:15 pm on March 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

It really does seem like a simple question that Bill O’Reilly asks Anthony Weiner in this clip from last night. All O’Reilly wants to know is which federal government agency hands out the fines to people who don’t buy government-approved health insurance. After all, even Rep. Weiner admits that someone is going to force taxpayers to pay if they access the system without proper coverage under ObamaCare.  Who is that?  Yes.  Yes who?  Who.  Who’s on first?  Right:

Look, this is really easy. Just go to pages 345 and 1573 of the Senate bill, which was signed into law, to find out which federal agency has to keep track of the data:

Senate Democrats’ Health Care Reform Bill

Here’s the relevant clause on page 345:

(c) NOTIFICATION OF NONENROLLMENT.—Not later than June 30 of each year, the Secretary of the Treasury, acting through the Internal Revenue Service and in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall send a notification to each individual who files an individual income tax return and who is not enrolled in minimum essential coverage (as defined in section 5000A of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986). Such notification shall contain information on the services available through the Exchange operating in the State in which such individual resides.

It’s the IRS. The Democrats have sicced the IRS on every American and put the tax collectors in charge of enforcing our health-insurance mandates. Why can’t Weiner just man up and tell the truth about it?

Jim Vicevich has the more amusing “Who’s on first” routine at Radio Vice Online.  My guess is that the IRS will be a lot more direct when fining refuseniks than Congressman Weiner.


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Koa on March 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Then why put jail time in the bill for non-compliance?

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

I like the sound of that…Takeover Deniers…..

d1carter on March 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Work in “anthropogenic” and it’ll resonate even with brain-dead lefties.

ya2daup on March 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

After seeing this, I sort of understand the responses of the weasel who was on Fox & Friends this morning with Dick Armey. They were talking about the tea parties and the weasel was insisting that the strongest motivation behind the protests was the anger at the process, not the outcome, of HCR. Armey almost did a face palm right there.

Couple all this with the “you’re going to love it once you understand it” approach on HCR, I’m now convinced there is or has been an inter-dimensional rift in the space-time continuum. In the Dem’s dimension, this stuff is possible. You actually CAN add more coverage and reduce costs. You can balance the budget by adding more debt and/or borrowing more. However, I shudder to think what could happen to other “laws” like gravity, thermodynamics, pi…

BTW, those of us who can’t transport out of this dimension when the crap hits the fan are royally screwed.

karl9000 on March 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM

I was waiting for Bill O to turn into the late Sam Kinison:

Say it! SAAAAY IIIIT!

kingsjester on March 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

MassVictim on March 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

A childhood friend of mine works for the IRS, and has since college. She once told me the IRS didn’t have enough “power”. I laughed in her face.

ladyingray on March 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Weiner is a dick.

jaime on March 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

And a very small one at that.

UltimateBob on March 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

I know of a “V” drug that will make him a big dick, or at least a long lasting small dick.

Electrongod on March 25, 2010 at 12:57 PM

He [Rush] says the threats/violence are bogus too.

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

OmahaConservative:Remember when the McCain worker,a Lefty
operative,claimed some goon carved a “B”
into her head,and its was staged!!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM

I laughed in her face.

ladyingray on March 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Heh. Good for you…

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Then why put jail time in the bill for non-compliance?

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Dont get me wrong, I am still going through this, and I am under no illusions that the IRS does not have other means at their disposal (ever been pulled over for the “broken taillight”.)
At present I assume the jail time is for in the near future when they amend it to give the IRS the teeth they have always intended it to have.

Koa on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Forgot about that. Thanks for jogging the gray cells…

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

rockmom on March 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

I’m having my lunch salad now. Just to be on the safe side, a put a piece of arugula in it…then fed the arugula to the dog.

Chewy the Lab on March 25, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Who? WHO = World Health Organization

jamie gumm on March 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

I know of a “V” drug that will make him a big dick, or at least a long lasting small dick.

Electrongod on March 25, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Electrongod: Just be careful about the side affect of more
than 4 hours,ahem,btw,I wonder if its covered
in this Healthcare!!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Weasel, this Weiner is a Weasel

Kini on March 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

I was waiting for Bill O to turn into the late Sam Kinison:
Say it! SAAAAY IIIIT!
kingsjester on March 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

That’s funny right there. Bill stands up and starts screaming that….ROFL

Bishop on March 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM

It sounds to me that a lot of people simply don’t understand how the IRS works….
LarryG on March 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Agreed Larry. As I said before on another comment thread…for most Americans, any contact from the IRS instantantly turns most of our bowels to liquid. Any hint that the IRS has any role in enforcing the mandate will be mightily opposed. Hence, Weiner’s intentional avoidance.

marybel on March 25, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Electrongod: Just be careful about the side affect of more
than 4 hours,ahem,btw,I wonder if its covered
in this Healthcare!!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Uh-oh, I wish you had posted this 5 hours ago. Maybe she’s not sleeping…

karl9000 on March 25, 2010 at 1:05 PM

reshas1 on March 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Very good.

Silly question, but is there a website that has a listing of all these incidences?

Chip on March 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Then why put jail time in the bill for non-compliance?

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Because they deliver free health care there. Sex reassignment and everything!

MassVictim on March 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM

The troubling followup is that the IRS is the only government agency not seriously subject to the constraints of the due process clause. In other words, they can fine, condemn, and confiscate without the bother of a court conviction for any wrong-doing. Scary, huh?
MassVictim on March 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

A childhood friend of mine works for the IRS, and has since college. She once told me the IRS didn’t have enough “power”. I laughed in her face.
ladyingray on March 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

The lowest-level drone sitting in the basement of an IRS building somewhere has more power to destroy your life — on a whim, regardless of whether you’ve done anything wrong — than the President, CEO and Board Of Directors of the largest corporation in the world.

logis on March 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Dont get me wrong, I am still going through this, and I am under no illusions that the IRS does not have other means at their disposal (ever been pulled over for the “broken taillight”.)
At present I assume the jail time is for in the near future when they amend it to give the IRS the teeth they have always intended it to have.

Koa on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

The IRS doesn’t have police powers, true. But that doesn’t mean the IRS can’t order the FBI to arrest you. See Wesley Snipes.

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Forgot about that. Thanks for jogging the gray cells…

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

OmahaConsevative: Anytime,I think the Lefts accusations
so far,has been them doing it,like the
brick tossed at their own election office!
-:)
Check this out!
=================================
Why don’t conservatives want to be part of our country and why can’t they accept the results of the ballot box?

Threats Against Democrats Made By Conservatives Must Be Monitored As Possible Seeds Of Terrorism
Threats are being made against Members of Congress who voted for the Health Care Reform bill.
======================================

http://texasliberal.wordpress.com/

This was just a random google search!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

If a US citizen is living overseas and getting health care through the country they are residing in, do they have to ALSO have to pay the US health care insurance bill???

albill on March 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

http://texasliberal.wordpress.com/

This was just a random google search!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Wow, just wow! Thanks for finding this.

Why don’t conservatives want to be part of our country and why can’t they accept the results of the ballot box?

And of course we can’t forget terrorist tax hater Joseph Stack who earlier this year smashed his plane into the side of the IRS building in Austin, Texas.
Threats against Democrats and against people who don’t agree with the far right-wing agenda of the Tea Party and of today’s Republican Party, must be kept under close review by law enforcement and by federal agents responsible for preventing acts of terror.

We can’t allow another Timothy McVeigh to do terrible harm to federal employees and other decent Americans.

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Then who?

What if there is no who? It seems more likely that congress had no plan of enforcing this new regulation.

shick on March 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

From Title 26 (26 USC 5000) which is under Subtitle D – Miscellaneous Excise Taxes – Chapter 47 Certain group health plans, which has this as its taxing provision:

Sec. 5000. Certain group health plans

(a) Imposition of tax

There is hereby imposed on any employer (including a self-employed person) or employee organization that contributes to a nonconforming group health plan a tax equal to 25 percent of the employer’s or employee organization’s expenses incurred during the calendar year for each group health plan to which the employer or employee organization contributes.

It then goes on to define group health insurance and a few other things, but no more mention of taxes.

Isn’t that a lovely mess to throw at a person?

And 5001 goes into liquor taxes, so there is nothing more than in Section 5000 of 26 USC.

Read and weep: this only deals with employed individuals. The unemployed or those getting income from non-employment sources can whistle past this…you gotta love this sort of stuff, really. The rich and the poor can get away without this as the poor have no employer and the rich can get non-employment income sources. Ahhhh… only a bureaucrat could design such an asinine way of doing things.

No good shall come of this law.

ajacksonian on March 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

What do you expect from a guy with the last name Weiner?

Really want to make this guy break out in a cold sweat?

Just come up quietly behind him and whisper the following in his ear….

High…..School……Gym…..Class!

pilamaye on March 25, 2010 at 1:18 PM

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I looked at that idiots blog…

“legitimate workings of our democracy”? Our democracy has been shanghaied and replaced with an oligarchy. The majority of the people have said that they did NOT want government run health care, and yet they force it down our throats anyways.

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Bill O. is one of those guys who when he wrong, he’s annoying. When he’s on target, he’s awesome! This was one of those times when he was on target.

Pcoop on March 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I watched this He compared enforcing Individual Mandate to fine for littering really it’s that insignificant. Who will enforce the Individual Mandate who will collect the fine? Weiner doesn’t speak English?

Let’s see if you get fined for littering, I guess the equivalent to breathing air to a Democrat, you get fined:

Littering in Texas can get you a $500 fine, it is a Class C Misdemeanor (If what was littered was less than 5 pounds). Littering over 5 pounds is a Class B Misdemeanor which carries a fine of up to $2,000. Texas motto “Don’t Mess with Texas”

Uh huh how does this square with “Free” if you breath you are now required to carry health insurance…who collects the fine….Weiner didn’t answer, it’s a FEDERAL LAW so we know the State, County and City Governments are not collecting the FINES…So who does that leave at the Federal Level to collect the Fine for not BUYING A PRODUCT FROM A PRIVATE INDUSTRY? If it’s not the IRS that is being expanded by 14,000.00 than who is going to collect the FINE?
Which ARM of the Federal Government is going to Violate American’s Constitutional Rights?

It’s seemed like a real simple question that Weiner should have been able to answer, After all he voted for the Bill now he doesn’t know how it will be applied? Really? I doubt it seriously. He comes off looking dishonest especially when he turns his head and can’t look into the camera.

Dr Evil on March 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I saw this last evening. Weiner is a “porky.”

Yellowdog12 on March 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I watched this last night. After listening to Weiner I had to wonder if the new law is not so much a law as it is a suggestion. Maybe the democrats put in a fine that shall not be collected because they don’t think our currency will be worth anything when this kicks in.

huchahucha on March 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Has anyone else noticed how FAST this piece of POS Bill is unraveling?

Dr Evil on March 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Dr Evil on March 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

If this bill was a piece of software, it would make Windows Vista look downright stable.

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM

As this clip demonstrates, a Wiener is a bigger tool than a BOR.

pugwriter on March 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM

There should be severe penalties for wearing a purple suit on television. The only exceptions should be documentaries on Disco and Don Cornelius on Soul Train.

viking01 on March 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM

What a POS, next up Bawney Fwank.

Healing you will feel

dmann on March 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Dr Evil on March 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Indeed. Need to keep the pressure on them. I think THIS is why the R’s bring up amendments, new talking points, etc.

Yellowdog12 on March 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM

I will not comply.

Ever.

Regardless.

Ragspierre on March 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Be careful bcs Jimbo’s gonna tell on you.

Badger40 on March 25, 2010 at 1:28 PM

As this clip demonstrates, a Wiener Weiner is a bigger tool than a BOR.

pugwriter on March 25, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Okay, maybe it is too early to drink.

pugwriter on March 25, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Just got off the phone with Weiners office. His staffer says that the IRS IS the enforcement arm on this and will levy the penalty (she called it a penalty). I asked about the jail time and she says that the bill has specific language in it that prohibits jail time.

If anyone can debunk the no jail time claim, please do so I can call her back.

csdeven on March 25, 2010 at 1:29 PM

http://texasliberal.wordpress.com/

This was just a random google search!:)

canopfor on March 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

That person is nuts.
I like how he really hopes the TX gov is correct that this bill will bring socialism to our country.
What evil POSs there out there in our country.

Badger40 on March 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Glad to hear there is no enforcement provision. So paying a fine or going to jail is optional.Now that this is cleared up I am ready to embrace ObamaCare.

R Square on March 25, 2010 at 1:34 PM

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Submit quotes including 11% Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET) and shipping to Washington DC

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historian on March 25, 2010 at 1:35 PM

It’s the Income Tax, stupids! Until the tea partiers get that, and start advocating for the repeal of Amendment XVI and the abolition of the fedgov’s henchman, it’s all noise.

You guys think the republic died the day Big Medical System was made law. Wrong! It died in 1913, with the Income Tax and the creation of the Federal Reserve (the most aggressive taxer and wealth destroyer of all).

The proof would be protests and resistance against the tyrannical power of the federal government to control your behavior through its power to tax you.

Rae on March 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM

WEENER!!

moonbatkiller on March 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM

And people also never seem to understand that we are not a democracy but a republic.
The mob that is the Dem controlled Congress is mob ruling over the minority in the Congress, which should not happen.
We need checks & balances.
Old Georgie WA really was right in expressing his fear over political parties & the future of this nation.
And I don’t really like Wikipedia, but I’ve read a lot on old George & I agree with the info there.

Badger40 on March 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM

It died in 1913
Rae on March 25, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Agreed. There was a time capsule that was opened a few years ago in Mott here in ND from like the 20’s or something & it was amazing at how many people then were sounding like people are today: angry at too much govt power & fearful of the R word & their futures.
What would they think today?
Better or worse?

Badger40 on March 25, 2010 at 1:39 PM

After listening to Weiner I had to wonder if the new law is not so much a law as it is a suggestion. Maybe the democrats put in a fine that shall not be collected because they don’t think our currency will be worth anything when this kicks in.
huchahucha on March 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Fascist laws are SUPPOSED to be confusing, both in their interpretation and in their enforcement.

That’s why liberal worker’s paradises are called “Police States.” EVERYONE is ALWAYS guilty of SOMETHING. The leaders can arrest anyone they want at any time and “make an example of them.”

logis on March 25, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Weiner is nothing but arrogant, not to mention, he’s been on another network and called Fox liars. Why do they keep having him back?

madmonkphotog on March 25, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Badger40 on March 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Technically, we are a representative democracy but why argue semantics.

:)

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Technically, we are a representative democracy but why argue semantics.

:)

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Guess we need to do some change up on the Pledge of Allegiance.

Koa on March 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Weiner is such a d…

J_Crater on March 25, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Technically, we are a representative democracy but why argue semantics.

:)

Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Not anymore.

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM

Rep. Weenie is worthless. Can’t respond to a simple question. Why, because he has no idea. Typical lefty response. Talk over and boycott the time.

rjoco1 on March 25, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Just got off the phone with Weiners office. His staffer says that the IRS IS the enforcement arm on this and will levy the penalty (she called it a penalty). I asked about the jail time and she says that the bill has specific language in it that prohibits jail time.

If anyone can debunk the no jail time claim, please do so I can call her back.

csdeven on March 25, 2010 at 1:29 PM

The IRS does have procedures that could lead to jail time due to noncompiance of tax payments. However, there are many other steps they have to go through before they get to that…withholding refunds, liens, confiscation of property, etc. So if this is a tax I suppose it is possible noncompliance could lead to jail time, but pretty remote.

Deanna on March 25, 2010 at 2:18 PM

You don’t use shotguns to make someone pay a fine. You use shotguns to bring in arrestees.

Jailtime is a fait accompli.

MBuck on March 25, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Almost 17,000 new IRS agents just to ensure compliance with the Obamessiah Care mandates? What a joke.

Annual Cost: 17,000 X $50,000 = $850,000,000.00

After they’re done jailing the non-complying “evildoers” in the first 12 months, then what’s next, a 16,000 agent layoff?

Yeah, right!

Sweet_Thang on March 25, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Just got off the phone with Weiners office. His staffer says that the IRS IS the enforcement arm on this and will levy the penalty (she called it a penalty). I asked about the jail time and she says that the bill has specific language in it that prohibits jail time.

If anyone can debunk the no jail time claim, please do so I can call her back.

csdeven on March 25, 2010 at 1:29 PM

The House Bill had the prohibition. The Senate Bill (the one that’s law) did not and includes the jail time.

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM

skywise,

The IRS has had armed agents for years, as they would board our aircraft with a Firearm Boarding Pass. As flight crew, we needed to know who was packing, what agency they represented and what their seat assignment was. You’d probably be surprised how many different agencies had armed personnel.

On jail time for non-compliance – maybe that should read “reindoctrination studies center.” Perhaps that’s the plan.

av8tr on March 25, 2010 at 2:25 PM

karl9000 on March 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM

I’ve been looking for a wormhole since November 2008. No luck so far.

chemman on March 25, 2010 at 2:30 PM

rjoco1 on March 25, 2010 at 2:15 PM

This isn’t about ignorance it’s about keeping the truth from the American People. If they actually understood that the IRS was going to be turned loose on them they’d blow a gasket. The people had to put the fear of G.. into the Congress to get the Taxpayer Bill of Rights passed because of IRS thuggery. Imagine how they would react to this.

chemman on March 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM

The House Bill had the prohibition. The Senate Bill (the one that’s law) did not and includes the jail time.

Skywise on March 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM

Hmmm…it’s on page 340…Waiver of Criminal Penalties

Deanna on March 25, 2010 at 2:36 PM

While watching this last night I was overwhelmed by the colorful metaphors escaping my mind through my food intake cavity like a volcanic fueled uncontrollable frenzy of molten material.

royzer on March 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM

$17k per IRS agent does not include their overhead, which is (at best) 35% of gross salary. Actually that 35% is with a highly efficient Agency and its been a few years since I looked at the IRS burdening rate but it was in the 45% realm back in the late 1990’s and due to the inability of Treasury to be able to update the systems inside the IRS I have strong doubts on the current burdening being less than that.

The actual cost to employ those agents is just a hair under $23k, and the reason I suspect that there is a higher burdening rate is the system charge-through for getting SECRET clearances so that those agents can work with the personal information of citizens (which is, in theory, no cost but there is a security up-keep cost beyond the up-front processing). The IRS hasn’t done a good job on security oversight which is why we see abuses of citizen information from the agency… of course bringing suits also adds to the burden of the agency in lost productive time. I would guess that for the DC area you would not be looking at anything below a GS-05, which is $30k and change per agent with a burdened cost to the government of $40k per agent. That is the number you multiply by 16,500 to get burdened cost to the government, but only for back-of-the-envelope calculations… final costs always go up when you talk manpower.

ajacksonian on March 25, 2010 at 3:02 PM

I watched this live last night, as others did, and I think it was pretty much obvious what point Weiner was trying to get at. Bill, as usual, wasn’t listening.

Weiner was attempting to claim that the mandate really isn’t a mandate at all and there is no fine. No, it’s a tax credit. If you have insurance you get the tax credit. If you don’t have insurance you don’t get to take it. That’s the stupid argument he was trying to make. But it’s not stupid if the Dems start calling it a tax credit because Congress does have the right to tax.

I wish Bill had picked up on where Weiner was going and had asked him if the jail penalty was gone. But he didn’t. As Bill is wont to do, he’s too busy talking to listen, so he missed it.

That interview is one of the huge reasons why I can’t stand Bill O’Reilly. He does not listen to his guests at all, and when he has Democrats on he is so greatful that they come on his show that he does everything but kiss their asses.

Jaynie59 on March 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM

I swear on my life that in 1994 I had a similar conversation with an IRS agent about income taxes being “voluntary”. I kept asking how could something be voluntary if not complying means fines and prison and he kept saying over and over that paying taxes was voluntary. That conversation made me the fiscal conservative I am today.

Ann NY on March 25, 2010 at 3:33 PM

It seems to me ONLY the regular citizens and small business owners are trying to figure out how best to be compliant to the ever increasing and suffocating laws.

While other entities 9both people and companies) are busy attaching themselves to have the correct political leaning, to have the right connections, and to outright play the “I am the victim of….” cards. ===> In other words, these are the same people that will be promoted to the front of the line receiving the dwindling resources.

Sir Napsalot on March 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Any hint that the IRS has any role in enforcing the mandate will be mightily opposed. Hence, Weiner’s intentional avoidance.

marybel on March 25, 2010 at 1:03 PM

No. I think that they are excited about adding 16,000 new co-workers to the roles. When 16k newbies get hired, everyone else moves up a notch in seniority. More supervisors, more trainers etc.

barnone on March 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM

I watched this live last night, as others did, and I think it was pretty much obvious what point Weiner was trying to get at. Bill, as usual, wasn’t listening.

Weiner was attempting to claim that the mandate really isn’t a mandate at all and there is no fine. No, it’s a tax credit. If you have insurance you get the tax credit. If you don’t have insurance you don’t get to take it. That’s the stupid argument he was trying to make. But it’s not stupid if the Dems start calling it a tax credit because Congress does have the right to tax.

I wish Bill had picked up on where Weiner was going and had asked him if the jail penalty was gone. But he didn’t. As Bill is wont to do, he’s too busy talking to listen, so he missed it.

That interview is one of the huge reasons why I can’t stand Bill O’Reilly. He does not listen to his guests at all, and when he has Democrats on he is so greatful that they come on his show that he does everything but kiss their asses.

Jaynie59 on March 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Errrrr…you need to listen harder.

selias on March 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Don’t forget this one either.
The Dem employee/activist (transgender) who busted out the windows at Colorado Democratic Party headquarters in Denver, Aug 25 2009

Party Chairwoman Pat Waak attributed the violence to the intensity surrounding the health care debate, saying, “Clearly there’s been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it.”. ThinkProgress obtained some pictures of the damage:

After learning about vandal’s political past and employment by Waak, Waak told the newspaper that

“there is a lot of rhetoric out there from both sides of the spectrum.”

Went from a “hate crime” to a “never mind” based on the politics of the vandal.

Oh also the census worker who committed suicide?

DSchoen on March 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM

I hate all New Yorkers except the Congressman’s wife . Huma Weiner .

borntoraisehogs on March 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM

At present I assume the jail time is for in the near future when they amend it to give the IRS the teeth they have always intended it to have.

Koa on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Begining on page 324. You will be required to have PROOF of insurance on a MONTHLY BASIS or be subject to a penalty of $750 (page 326 line 22) for each family member. (phased in and indexed)

This is not a credit that you fail to take, it is a penalty. In my State if you let your insurance lapse at anytime, you get a $350 penalty. The insurance company reports directly to the DMV. You will be required to show proof to the IRS monthly that you have approved coverage. I wonder if the $750 will be a fine for each instance like State auto insurance (let your ins lapse twice in one calendar year, DMV will assess two $350 fines) or if it is just $62.50 per month?

barnone on March 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM

I just emailed Weiner asking him the same question, WHO IS GOING TO LEVY THE FINE?????????

http://weiner.house.gov/email_anthony.aspx

reshas1 on March 25, 2010 at 4:28 PM

barnone on March 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Since it is the IRS enforcing the penalties, it will probably be per month. If you don’t pay the penalty voluntarily they will be authorized to deduct it from your bank acct., garnish your wages or place a lien on your house. Penalties and interest on an IRS bill snowball very quickly and you very little ability to fight them. This is also another gift for the trial attorneys who will use it to make another killing off the healthcare industries.

Sporty1946 on March 25, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Weiner’s such an incredible jerk. Even I got what BOR was asking without having gone to Harvard.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 25, 2010 at 5:01 PM

I hope O’Reilly brings the issue back tonight and delivers Weiner a spanking on it…. IMHO this was the biggest tactical error made by the Reps. No one likes the IRS or is favor of giving them more power!

2nd Ammendment Mother on March 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM

The silver lining that I can see in this is that each year (hopefully starting this year, so in about 90 days) EVERY taxpayer is going to get a jolt of reality about the intrusiveness of Obamacare. And it is going to come from the MOST disliked government agency in existence. Given the situation this seems like a very positive thing.

mrveritas on March 25, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Weiner is beyond irritating, typical libtard. I hope November wipes his I-dodged-his-question-grin off his face.

Mojave Mark on March 25, 2010 at 6:41 PM

He comes off looking dishonest especially when he turns his head and can’t look into the camera.
Dr Evil on March 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Interesting, I saw childish histrionics when he turned his head and couldn’t look into the camera.

DSchoen on March 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM

At present I assume the jail time is for in the near future when they amend it to give the IRS the teeth they have always intended it to have.

Koa on March 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

I’m beginning to wonder if these special IRS agents are not the beginnings of the national security force Obama wanted. Or at least, the beginnings of a national police force. Special agents of a special unit whose powers we do not fully know.

JellyToast on March 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM