Cantor: Democrats “dangerously fanning the flames” by screeching about security threats
posted at 12:54 pm on March 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Via The Right Scoop, Rep. Eric Cantor announced that his office has received threats for his positions on issues as well as his Jewish heritage, and that one of his offices had a window shot out. He only spoke out about this to combat the unbalanced reporting of fringe threats against members of Congress. Cantor singled out DCCC chair Rep. Chris van Hollen for exploiting fringe threats for political gain, “fanning the flames” to “dangerous levels.” Cantor declared that “enough is enough,” and implored his colleagues from both parties to let law enforcement handle the threats from the political fringes:
I think Cantor put this very well. Threats of political violence come from the fringes of American debate, and represent no one and no movement except the lunatics who make the threats. The “I’m getting death threats” has become a tired meme in the American media, and a handy way for politicians to avoid the responsible accountability that mainstream Americans demand. And it’s not just Democrats who have indulged in that avoidance strategy in the past, although they’re certainly the culprits of the moment.
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Update (AP): Cantor’s not the only Republican who’s been threatened recently (and, of course, not so recently). On a related note, here’s a fine short floor speech from Mike Pence. Stop the threats, stop the vandalism — and stop smearing law-abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong.
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The church is the only thing keeping life from being hell on earth. Wants the church is taken out….
jbh45 on March 25, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Damn, girl. Let some sunshine in under that umbrella. :)
The Race Card on March 25, 2010 at 3:41 PM
That’s where I get stuck, though. Once upon a time humans thought that sickness was caused by bad spirits, or that bleeding a person could release the bad demons or whatever. Then we found the scientific means to identity pathogens and the old ways rightfully disappeared.
I could say that science can’t explain certain things in the universe, and then add the word “yet”, or I could dive into the age old argument of which came first the chicken or the egg and chalk it up to God being on a plane of existence that my three-dimensional limitations can’t understand…yet. It boggles my mind.
Bishop on March 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM
If things get to that point, the intrawebs thingy will be crucial to getting information out. Sad to say, the current administration has already told us they reserve the right to monitor and shut down any or all networks in times of crisis. Bad things being done to you by your government? Good luck getting that information to others.
bikermailman on March 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
dude–great observations. Yes, last minute conversion do count and I’ll reference to when Jesus was crucified and the convict on the cross next to him asked him if he could spend eternity with Him. Jesus said “he’ll see him in paradise.”
Second, the government does its perversion bit on anything good–ie charity converted to “wealth redistribution” and “pay nothing, get everything”. All are perversions of the kingdom of God. You should check it out, the parallels are really amazing. Moreover, you’ll discover that the best lies are 90% true–social security, welfare and so on.
ted c on March 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Awesome.
That I do remember. But yes, I’m a little young. I don’t think I even became aware of politics until I was 11, and that’s just because my parents hated Clinton and kept telling me Hillary would be the first female president before I’d get a chance.
It amazes me that they got away with this. Even looking at Sotomayor funny got Republicans called racist. No one seems to care about racial barriers being broken when it happens on the Right.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
jbh45 on March 25, 2010 at 3:39 PM
He warns us that there is a period coming that is so dark, so empty of hope (of Him) that were it not shortened by the Father there would not be one believer on the last day.
For all the talk that is being banned right now, I would rather be unprepared (and yet spiritually prepared) and leave this earthly veil with my faith intact, then to surrender it to the darkness.
journeyintothewhirlwind on March 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
A HS friend on FB that I’ve been going back and forth with recently (a leftie) informed me that premiums are going up at 68% per year. I fired back that last year, it was 10%, then it was 20%, then 38%, and now the charge is quickly heading for eleventy!! bazillion percent. He had no comeback for that, changed subjects.
bikermailman on March 25, 2010 at 3:49 PM
The assassination provided Goebbels, Hitler’s Chief of Propaganda, with the excuse he needed to launch a pogrom against German Jews. Grynszpan’s attack was interpreted by Goebbels as a conspiratorial attack by “International Jewry” against the Reich and, symbolically, against the Fuehrer himself. This pogrom has come to be called Kristallnacht, “the Night of Broken Glass.”
History seldom repeats, but it often rhymes.
The isolated reports of threats provided Chris van Hollen, one of Herr Obama’s Chiefs of Propaganda, with the excuse he needed to launch a pogrom against Conservatives and Tea Party members. The reports of “death threats” was interpreted by Rep. Chris van Hollen as a conspiratorial attack by “The opposition cabal of evil doers” (consisting of the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Ed Morrissey (a Michelle Malkin lackey), Allahpundit (another Michelle Malkin lackey) and other foul sorts) against the New Order and, symbolically, against the Dear Leader Herr Obama himself. This pogrom would come to called Obamanacht.
MB4 on March 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Sorry, that was supposed to be a bit more light-hearted. I’m just having a hard time turning off the cynicism, especially going between this thread and the abortion one.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Thats about when I started paying attention to politics…
… but my President was Ronald Reagan :)
Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Must have been by far her most sensible post out of the 1,000,000 she’s contributed, they had to let it through.
She was due.
NoDonkey on March 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM
They didn’t quite get away with it. Clarence Thomas sits on the Supreme Court to this day.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
History seldom repeats, but it often rhymes.
The isolated reports of threats provided Chris van Hollen, one of Herr Obama’s Chiefs of Propaganda, with the excuse he needed to launch a pogrom against Conservatives and Tea Party members. The reports of “death threats” was interpreted by Rep. Chris van Hollen as a conspiratorial attack by “The opposition cabal of evil doers” (consisting of the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Ed Morrissey (a Michelle Malkin lackey), Allahpundit (another Michelle Malkin lackey) and other foul sorts) against the New Order and, symbolically, against the Dear Leader Herr Obama himself. This pogrom would come to called Obamanacht.
MB4 on March 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM
It all began with the verbing of Stupak’s name.
Thanks for the clarification.
I don’t get to get on here as often as some so I tend to miss things.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Sorry, that was supposed to be a bit lighter. I’m just having a hard time turning off the cynicism, especially going between this thread and the abortion one.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM
We deem‘d her moniker as the new F Bomb.
OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Not to get preachy, but I can answer the chicken and the egg matter.
God created the chicken, and the rooster, first. Otherwise, there could have been no egg.
You will come to your own understanding. Keep listening to the wife, and look for faith. Faith, in the end comes from God. So, as an idea, when you’re bored or something, just ask God for faith and trust only a hair to believe.
All else will come.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM
AP, what happened to my post regarding the founders and the Declaration?
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM
Yeah, I’m jealous. I was born during his first term.
Bork doesn’t.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM
HaHa, yea I get it now.
BTW, haven’t seen her much lately. Could this be why?
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM
To add to my previous…
In the chicken-and-egg question, note the rooster is never mentioned.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM
I know this is mean but since it is so darned funny I have to share this comment from last night from someone who got caught up in a hijacked AnninCa thread.
Thanks to AnnInTheCAN I know why animals will gnaw off their paw to get out of a trap.
ya2daup on March 24, 2010 at 11:57 PM
Cindy Munford on March 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Exaggerate much? Just a tad insulting to, um, people who have actually died as a result of pogroms. I knew conservatives were fond of Israel, but that’s stretching things a little.
Grow Fins on March 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM
It was decided at a late night meeting, closed to the press, that, since Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Ed Morrissey (a Michelle Malkin lackey), Allahpundit (another Michelle Malkin lackey) and other foul sorts) were to blame for these threats, they would be held legally and financially responsible for the cost of placing Tea Party participants at the newly built Gitmo II.
MB4 on March 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM
I don’t see why you can’t do both. Science might eventually be able to explain anything, but that doesn’t necessarily mean things cease to become magical. I understand the math behind a musical composition, but that doesn’t mean it has no power to move me.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM
A Dem victory, to be sure. It got so clouded that, at a book store when I wanted to buy his book, the kid behind the counter wondered why I would want to read it.
But, Bork was told that liberals have a pile of rights they want implemented. A right to health care, and a job. Right to a college education, and to housing. Among other things, Bork was told.
That’s why he was so reviled. Bork is major scholar of the Constitution, and he wouldn’t have given it all to them.
By Bork’s own admission, he could find no prohibitions against abortion. His complaint was the sitting SCOTUS at the time did it all the wrong way. The Court imposed, rather than use the Tenth Amendment to reach a similar conclusion.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM
As a life-long student of the Sciences, I can only conclude science aims at the existence of God.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM
One of your kind the other day said he’d turn in American who won’t pay into Obamacare.
Tell us all, would YOU do that?
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Wasn’t that the pantywaist, Jimbo?
OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM
So I read on Drudge that someone shot at Cantor’s office. Many threads ago, in the year 1 B.O.C., I said that whoever fired the first shot (actual shot, I mean, as in projectile, not metaphorical shot) would lose the war (see Ft. Sumter).
The liberal Democrats have fired the first actual bullet. They will lose the war.
Mary in LA on March 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM
+1
OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Why, I wonder are YOU a liberal? What, about your side, is so attractive to be as you are?
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Yes.
If I know my neighbor is cheating on his taxes, I’m not going to snitch. Not my business.
The only time I’ll call police is if I see someone trying to kill someone else, or if I know for certain, and can testify, my neighbor is abusing his children.
Tax policy isn’t a reason to call police.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:15 PM
I actually don’t have a problem with that near as much as I have with Roe.
That said, I think abortion is the worst thing mankind has ever conceived of.
I think the Bible agrees. I forget the passage now, but it speaks of having evidence of God all around us.
Esthier on March 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Yup. Jimbo also threatened to report RepubChica to Ed for a post of hers he didn’t like. Only a pantywaist bullies girls.
OmahaConservative on March 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM
The Bible says to seek God in all things, and it’s beautiful in the end. Even in the worst, God is there. My belief, of course, with evidence that suits me and my life.
I can tolerate abortion locally, if the People voted for it. R v Wade removed the People from the equation. Libs love that–you ‘have to do what we want’ kind of thing.
Still, they call that ‘freedom’.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM
The liberal species is a carrion-eating herd animal. They believe in the theory of “safety in numbers”, “group think”, and “concensus”.
On its own in the wild, it cannot survive as it has no ambition or practical skills. It depends on the largesse or the death of other, more productive species (typically, a conservative) for survival. As the conservative toils throught the day, scratching out an existence with what is available, the liberal perches on high, surveying the scene, keeping a watchful eye for any sign of a less than healthy conservative. Once located, the liberals swarm and pester the conservative constantly, not allowing it to rest or eat, until finally it falls over, spent.
Then the feast begins.
BobMbx on March 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM
I did one better on that.
Rywall attacked Chica saying she couldn’t use an American name for her moniker. I wrote Ed immediately, saying an accusation was made that a Latina couldn’t be American.
Rywal was throwing invective all over after that, and his initial post was deleted.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM
You know, I wonder…If you eat crap, what is it that comes out the other end?
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM
BobMbx on March 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Fulton Cardinal Sheen did a great show regarding science back when he had a weekly show on TV.
I remember him saying that scientists only discover what is already there, they do not create anything. In other words, had God not created it, there would be nothing for them to discover.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Haha…policy?
BobMbx on March 25, 2010 at 4:25 PM
My next-to-last was to OC. Sorry, guys!
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM
No. A llllllllllliberal!
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM
American politics is veering out of control, and though we won’t see any MSM stories about the “most polarizing president in American history” as we did ad nauseum when Bush occupied the White House, the American voters will blame Barack Obama and the democrats. They are, after all, the folks in charge. This political climate belongs to them, which is why they and their useful idiots in the MSM are spinning this so hard to be a reflection of the loony right. It’s an admirable political effort on their part, I suppose, but it won’t work. People know what a country torn asunder looks like, and they know the approximate time it began to happen. In this case, correlation will mean causation, and no one knows this better than the democrats.
Rational Thought on March 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM
DRywall is one of the 3 trolls here I can’t stand… The Race Card and crr6 are the other two. AnninCA is like that girl down the street who’s parents are cousins, Jimbo3 is like a self absorbed college student who is only liberal because they have never been in the real world and GrowFins is just regurgitating liberal talking points like that stuffed parrot toy that repeats what you say and Decider is a drive by troll trying to get as many posts in as many threads before his mommy comes in to put him down for his nap.
Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Exactly what they want Mr Cantor.
Reminds me of the Reichstag fire scenario.
AZ_Redneck on March 25, 2010 at 4:30 PM
The political climate belongs to the People, and only to them.
We, corporately, elected them. But they work for us. We don’t hold elections for new and continuing masters every other November. Those people work for US.
No–the political climate belongs to We the People, as we will have it. True, the electorate is fickle. That doesn’t change the fact this duly-elected government is OUR will, not theirs.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM
I can’t stand a single one of them
Soon as Rywall went ‘ethnic’ on RepubChica, I emailed Ed. I let HA decide; I only stated by brief case.
After that, Rywall was throwing out abbreviated invective against everyone, and his initial post was deleted.
Lesson: When a lib is being typical, he’ll get mad when you call him on fair rule.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM
I posted a rebuttal to AP’s referencing as moronic any argument which uses the founders’ cries of “taxation without representation.”
It disappeared.
Thinking a computer mishap, I reposted.
It disappeared again.
Why, AP?
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM
AP is right–we have representation.
I’m in that vile Louise Slaughter’s district, and she doesn’t represent me. However, she is duly and lawfully elected to her post by the majority of this District. That’s the way it’s supposed to be.
I don’t like it, to be sure, but the People here have decided. End of story.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:39 PM
You really don’t know the people you serve very well do you? Did you see the part where they are now making up rules as they go?
The Democrats will do anything and everything to get power over the people. And pograms, gas chambers etc., are the natural consequence of socialism.
It will happen eventually if we don’t stop socialism. It always does. When things go wrong and socialists need to blame someone it ends in mass murder.
Social justice does not exist. It cannot exist. It is against all the laws of nature. There will always be winners and losers. There will always be luck. No matter what you do there will always be luck.
That fact makes socialists kill.
petunia on March 25, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Liam, had you had the chance to read my post you would see that I did not argue that we do not have representation but for some reason, I will not make assumptions as to AP’s motive, he chose not to allow it to post.
If he ever does, then you can comment on it to me.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Liam, reading that after it posted I realized it sounded a bit snippy.
I didn’t mean anything rude, just letting you know that you commented without knowing the content of my post.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM
heheh! +4
ted c on March 25, 2010 at 4:49 PM
Fins is an idealogue, and you can’t debate someone like that with reason. They don’t have any.
If we were all put in prison for being conservative, Fins would STILL say, “Exaggerate much?”
We waste our time trying to get the libs who post here to our side. They will never come. In all and every case, they choose to defy anything we say or show.
Just last night, one lib said right up he comes here to disrupt the site; he finds it fun to rile us up. Not an exact quote but the intention is really what matters. That says all about them.
We won’t influence, in the least, any lib who comes here. They’re being here is a blood sport. We can no better get them to see our side any better than we can change a cat into a dog.
Six, Fins, Ann, Fins–take your pick–don’t want honest debate, an exchange of ideas. They have chosen their individual and collective views, and that’s their bottom line. They see us as they choose, with preconceived notions. If I marry my black girlfriend, they’ll still see me as a racist, that somehow I’m ‘oppressing’ her, making her by ‘slave’.
We’re best, I think sticking together. The libs come here to divide us, nitpicking and all else.
That’s what they are, what they’re like, and what they want to do.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I agree. Not only does science reveal the mysteries that God has created, but “the Heavens declare his glory.” You don’t have to look much further than the night sky to bear witness to his creation.
ted c on March 25, 2010 at 4:52 PM
We’re okay. Just an exchange of ideas, Patriot!
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 4:53 PM
I don’t really get that…a death threat is a death threat and should be taken seriously. Perhaps implying that many death threats involving politicians are in fact made up?
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Ed, I totally agree with you about we should not talk of violence; however, I do have to wonder why you seem to perpetuate the MSM’s negative connotation of the word “militia”. My understanding of this word is citizenry who are not paid, but are ready to repel invasion or insurrection. Straighten me out if I’m wrong.
fullogas on March 25, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Maybe some are true. I want to hear about the arrests first. Phone calls can be tracked. Let’s see if there are any arrests.
And, I want it proved that the Tea Party, as a whole or by direct extension, is responsible.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Next hotair open comment registration:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Patrick Henry
Samuel Adams
et al
need not apply.
mrsmwp on March 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM
I know a few Dems who’d put you on the rack for a short stretch…(all puns intended) LOL
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM
This in-fighting is BS. Everyone, all us Cons–stop it, will you?
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Most of the trolls don’t really bother me. The one exception is ProudRino. That little a-hole is one of the most irritating, sanctimonious jerks that I have ever seen. From its first post here, I have not been a fan.
mrsmwp on March 25, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Exactly.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Liam: As AnninCA would say, *haha. But seriously, I’m tired of words being distorted to mean something they don’t, as part of a whopping smear campaign, and it seems as though Ed has slurped the koolaid on this matter.
fullogas on March 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Like someone who’s into anal, he’s looking for love in all the wrong places.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM
And what’s so sad is that she hasn’t figured it out yet!
Del Dolemonte on March 25, 2010 at 5:12 PM
They haven’t; there’s no condescention in Admin I can find. What I do find, Patriot, is a setting of a higher bar. In a way, HA is stopping us from going off half-cocked.
I’m cynical but, I have to say, that if the hammer falls, we’re going to want Ed and AP on our side.
And they are.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:13 PM
I just tried a filter test with the F bomb and it didn’t go through. How did it when AnninCA did it? I have a theory
I don’t know any other way that it could happen. She would have to be in a position to be above the filters.
darwin-t on March 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM
I’m still trying to figure out why the filters that be deleted my comment earlier. There was nothing in it that was inflammatory or contrary to the rules here.
This is a first for me so I’m just dumbfounded by it.
Jvette on March 25, 2010 at 5:17 PM
I used to care about Ann, really liked her. But then things came out, and I needed to get away.
She’s not really a bad person. In a lot of ways, she’s very gentle. But, in the end, she’s going to be her own undoing. As she admitted last night, which was more than anyone else wanted to hear, she’s destructive. She admitted to having harmed other people, and her ways continue.
God have mercy on her soul because, frankly, I won’t.
She and those like her need to be shunned here on HA, by us. We need to unite now, keeping in mind we’re of same mind. WE might argue details, but we’re knit together.
That last is what counts.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM
When do the threats of violence stop against the American people? Is it not violent to to say “You will not get surgery because we deem your life unworthy?” What’s a death panel but violent? Is it not violence when the IRS comes knocking at your door and threatens to seize your property for not purchasing what congress mandated you must?!
I oppose all forms of violence! All Americans need to keep demonstrations and so forth peaceful!
But talk about double standards! Democrats in congress liken themselves to royalty! They can shovel the dirt in our faces, threaten us with fines and imprisonment for not following their dictates and let someone dare utter a slur or insult from a crowd and suddenly our national security may be at risk!
If only they displayed the same kind of outrage at the Islamo fascists who shout “Death to America” as they do towards some nut in a crowd yelling an insult! If only they were as concerned about the Democrats within their own party not paying taxes as they are about some family who can’t afford to pay the cost of the insurance they mandate!
This congress is so out of control! They have set themselves completely against the American people! God help us that we can survive until 2012!
What we witness going on in public is bad enough. I can only imagine the plans they discuss in secret!
JellyToast on March 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM
She’s not, and her posts were deleted.
We aren’t being shut down or locked out. We have an opportunity here, so let’s go with it.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:21 PM
No, that’s not violence. That’s force.
Dems claim to hate violence (except when they want it), but force is their thing.
The IRS doesn’t use violence to get your money, but uses force.
Black Panthers carry clubs to a voting place. That’s not violence, but force.
Sit-ins were force.
Among many other things. We can quibble over terms, Patriot, but it sums to ‘force’.
Liam on March 25, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Oh… forgot about that idiot… make that 4 I can not stand.
Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 5:27 PM
Kinda touchy-feely but after reading all the comments, I want to extend my thanks to The Management for being considerate enough to read the comments and responding as necessary.
It’s nice that when something like this that directly concerns us as participants comes up, that they care enough to address us. I’d like if they were a bit more generous with the banhammer at times, but their reluctance to exclude people (even when they resort to namecalling) is actually really generous of them.
So thanks, guys (and gals).
RachDubya on March 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Liam: Not saying I’m angry with Ed – I understand where management is coming from. More like a warning as to how insidious these things can be. One day, you wake up and a word means something different than it did yesterday, and you’re not even aware of it. Have to be vigilant as to what you let seep in to your consciousness.
fullogas on March 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I think this is a good opportunity to remind the management of this site that it is the commentators that drive the traffic here. While they may say this is their house and they are being magnanimous by granting the unwashed masses privileges to post, nothing could be more disingenuous and arrogant.
The traffic to this site is generated by people who come to read the thousands of comments, not the paragraph or two written by Ed or Allah. The site would be mostly blank white space in that case. And since the whole point of banning certain types of talk is, ostensibly, to protect and advance the stock value of the site, it should not be forgotten that it is the commentators, especially the more colorful amongst them, that are responsible for the lion’s share of that very marketable value. They are not a burden. They are your bread and butter.
Don’t believe it? Close all comments and watch the traffic taper off.
keep the change on March 25, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Check out this unreal response from Josh Marshall at TPM. I found it because I googled “tea partiers+menacing”, recalling that Marshall had begun to stoke this talking point about a week ago. Sure enough the word “menacing” appears again. And oh so much more.
His original “menacing” story can be found here at Memeorandum. Note all the similarly themed stories. “Talking points” is the perfect name for his blog and we can guess where this talking point came from.
Buy Danish on March 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Well, 0bama did say he wanted a civilian police force as well armed and well trained as the military… I guess we know now what he wants it for…
Wolftech on March 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM
Everything that has transpired or been mentioned by barri as something he would like to see happen has been meticulously planned for some time now, by Soros, et al., down to the last shred of misinformation they feed to their media puppets, countless lobbying and internet groups and their plot to make sure that key election states get Secretary of States of their choosing elected.
They have a strategy for our enslavement already planned in detail, with point and counterpoint mapped out. We are seeing it played out in real time. barri’s blatant hijacking of the Constitution through the implemenation and content of obamacare AND student loans for 19 million kids, incredibly out-of-control and unlawful as this is, is only the logical progression after his unlawful takeover of the banks, GM, Chryser, etc. It is getting worse in orders of magnitude, and is happening at lighting speed. Soros planned it that way, and barri is his puppet who implements the skullduggery.
Unfortunately, the GOP is always left reacting, not taking the initiative, as when berri called his blair house health care dog and pony show which he needed to bring the dead bill back to life. The GOP had a few weeks warning that he was going to use them to do this, and instead of inviting him FIRST, to their own summit on JOBS, insisting that they had no time for a dead bill, and holding boobie’s feet to the fire by making him stand by his promise to “pivot” to jobs, they just waited for obama’s invite, and then were his useful idiots in giving obamacare a new life, regardless of phyrric victories such as Paul Ryan’s.
I don’t think the GOP have a short term strategy, besides knee jerk reaction to whatever narrative/actions the Dims gleefully lay on them daily, let alone a long term one. They play checkers while the commiedems play 3-D chess, and they must be really having fun right about now.
I personally think berri’s fraudlent representation of so many aspects of obamacare, i.e., “you can keep your doctor/insurance plan, abortion won’t be funded, immigrants won’t be covered, your premiums will not increase, it will reduce the debt”, to the American people in hundreds of speeches, including on prime time in the well of Congress (twice)is an impeachable offense. If he thinks the President of the United States can lie in such an egregious, chronic, complete and bald-faced fashion regarding the takeover of 1/6 of our private economy, not to mention the loss of basic rights and freedoms, and get away with it, then he surely is practicing high crimes and misdemeanors. And if he tries to claim ignorance, that is no defense in the eyes of the law, as we know. And if he was ignorant, how could he have promised what he had no knowledge of?
Yes, impeachment, even if not politically possible, should still be loudly called for because it will bring into focus the sickening disregard that berri has for his fellow citizens and the laws of this nation. PR can help slow down his swath of destruction.
tigerlily on March 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM
The socialist Democrats in Washington have IGNORED the will of the American people for the last 14 months… and now they’ve gone all fetal over a couple of foul-mouthed phone messages and a brick through a window?
Sorry, I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck.
This is just a preemptive smear on the Tea Party movement so as to try to convince us that stay-at-home moms and retired people are a frenzied right-wing mob.
Pathetic. Maybe they could pay a little attention to the recidivism of the ACTUAL TERRORISTS they’ve been releasing.
Murf76 on March 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM
I, too, believe that the nation is in for a time of great suffering for the reason you mention.
Speaking plainly, ban or no ban, I cannot fathom that any kind of violence or overthrow might erupt in this nation over the healthcare bill, and we have let slip the continuing murder of our children… over, and over, and over again.
I hoped that the Tea Parties would make it a central issue – but no, they are fiscal conservatives only, no time for ’social con’ issues. Ed Morrissey, a few days back, mentioned how abortion ought be a second priority to young people in comparison to the financial burdens that will be – and have been – laid upon them by ObamaCare.
Our priorities as a nation are laid bare, and I believe we are going to suffer terribly for that. Nonetheless, I find myself praying for my countrymen, and my country, all throughout the day.
KinleyArdal on March 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM
+1000
tigerlily on March 25, 2010 at 6:47 PM
I agree.
Apparently we are still thought of as sheep just lead by a different master(s); lacking in critical thinking skills and easily swayed and incited to riot by the mere mention of extraordinary opposition.
Sad, I thought that only occurred on the left.
Socmodfiscon on March 25, 2010 at 7:03 PM
I think we know that the left wants to hang the “violent” label on us. Not only do we need to make sure the label doesn’t stick, we also need to refuse to allow them to label others as violent.
That’s the most disturbing thing about the warning above. I certainly understand the need for limits, and the fact that we don’t want Hot Air to be taken as a “dangerous” web site. But it almost sounds like you’re giving credence to the accusations. And that is unfortunate.
We need to be very careful that we don’t validate these false accusations implicitly, as some Republicans did when they condemned Tea Party activists for using racial slurs. The problem of course is that there was no evidence that racial slurs were used, but in condemning the racial slurs, they seemed to accept the reports as if they really happened.
The left doesn’t have to smear us individually, if they can smear some of us and imply guilt by association.
tom on March 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM
True. Which leaves me wondering why free speech apparently does involve burning flags and a girl wearing a tux to a high school prom.
I’m glad it doesn’t include violence, though, because I have a sneaky suspicion who the violence would actually be directed against.
tom on March 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Liam,
I have to post and run, I’ll check this when I get back.
My question to you is a kind of wondering of how you could say that you would be willing to tolerate (your emphasis)abortion in this nation if it was brought about by a vote of the people as opposed to through the courts?
I read your posts with interest on a fairly regular basis and I am just kind of disappointed to hear such a thing.
Do you not really believe then, that unborn life is sacred and is to be defended and protected no matter how many persons think otherwise? That there are certain absolutes, such as the the sanctity of innocent human life, that should not be violated and should be defended no matter how the decision to abrogate these rights comes about, be it legislatively, judicially or by ballot? I always thought you based your pro-life beliefs in obedience to the Ten Commandments and our nation’s promise of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, and that you couldn’t give a hoot about any majority if they were in the wrong. Am I missing something here? If I have misinterpreted your comment, please forgive me.
tigerlily on March 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Not for a second. The left calls the right violent because it suits their prejudices and makes them feel better about themselves.
tom on March 25, 2010 at 7:45 PM
During the 2008 campaign, did the DNC ever denounce Sandra Bernhard when she publicly stated she hoped “her big black brothers gang-rape Gov Palin”?
TN Mom on March 25, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Ed, thanks for saying what unfortunately needed to be said.
I, like many other posters here, was an avid reader of this site long before having the opportunity to post. One of the most intelligent posters at HA (there are many) calls those that embrace this idea the nullification ilk. Hat tip to unclesmrgol.
The nullification ilk truly believe they are protecting the Constitution.
They fail to properly consider the myriad of unintended consequences that will inevitably be put in motion by their foolish actions.
The most obvious consequence is fighting amongst ourselves leaves the front gates unguarded.
A not so obvious consequence is the fact that what they propose literally translates into protecting the rights of some individuals, over those of others.
That does not sound like trying to protect the Constitution to me.
Well said AP.
rukiddingme on March 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Any history students here who care to clarify for me the differences in degree or intent between the British vis a vis the colonies vs the Obamii vis a vis the American people?
Just asking, not promoting insurrection (since that would seal America’s fate at this juncture).
disa on March 25, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Oh my. After ignoring the story for two days, HA decides to mention it only after a suitable Republican spin became available.
Well played.
chumpThreads on March 25, 2010 at 10:48 PM
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