Oops: O-Care forgets to cover young adults, children with preexisting conditions
posted at 5:03 pm on March 24, 2010 by Allahpundit
Like the man said, this is a big f***ing deal.
Obama made better coverage for children a centerpiece of his health care remake, but it turns out the letter of the law provided a less-than-complete guarantee that kids with health problems would not be shut out of coverage.
Under the new law, insurance companies still would be able to refuse new coverage to children because of a pre-existing medical problem, said Karen Lightfoot, spokeswoman for the House Energy and Commerce Committee, one of the main congressional panels that wrote the bill Obama signed into law Tuesday.
However, if a child is accepted for coverage, or is already covered, the insurer cannot exclude payment for treating a particular illness, as sometimes happens now.
HHS is promising to issue regulations to insurance companies that would close the access loophole. All fixed? Not quite. Turns out Reid never got around to including The One’s highly touted vow to let young adults stay on their parents’ plans until age 26 in the Senate bill, so for the moment, it’s no-go on that promise too. The House stuck it back in as part of the reconciliation fix so presumably it’ll be law next week, but here’s a thought to chew on while we wait for things to play out:
“That’s how politics works,” said Jennifer Tolbert, a policy analyst at the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit that has been closely tracking the legislation.
Tolbert said the president was talking about the package – the law he signed yesterday and the pending reconciliation legislation in the Senate – because Senate Democrats believe they have the votes to pass the bill.
None of the legislation spells out who is supposed to pay for the coverage.
“I don’t know that employers have thought it through,” said Paul Fronstin, director of health research for the Employee Benefit Research Institute in Washington. “Now they have to think it out.”
As MKH reminds us, Pelosi said we’d have to pass the bill first before we could find out what’s in it, didn’t she? Little did we know. Via RCP, below you’ll find her latest creepy thought, musing that the airtight O-Care process might just be a model for all sorts of statist garbage going forward. We are blessed to live in such an age, my friends. Exit question courtesy of Tom Maguire: How did both Democratic and Republican researchers miss the loophole about preexisting conditions for kids? Did anyone at all read this bill? Or did the Dems purposely leave stuff out in order to force the GOP to take a tough separate vote on it? Surely the black-hearted pennypinching conservatives in the House wouldn’t dare oppose a supplemental measure for The Children, would they?
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In these here parts our weapons of choice against traitorous congresscritters is this, right Mac?
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 5:41 PM
If I’m not mistaken they also forgot to put funding in for the 17,000 new IRS agents to enforce this monstrosity. Of course the cost of that would have made the CBO numbers too high.
sandee on March 24, 2010 at 5:41 PM
He hates kids who go to Catholic , and private schools. None of those kinds of kids got invites to the easter celebration at the White House.
capejasmine on March 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Okay, since they are not covered that might explain this.
http://minx.cc/?post=299791
Mr. Joe on March 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM
You would think that it would. But, I’m sure they have a way to funnel money to them.
milwife88 on March 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM
No, just the conservative, middle class ones. He likes the inner city kids just fine.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Did these glaring omissions help the CBO report (or should I say the “Preliminary Report”) claim that ObamaCare came in under a Trillion and therefore *cough cough* was so fiscally responsible that even “moderate” deficit hawks could love it (in addition to “giddy” Democrats)?
Buy Danish on March 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Alex I will take the Race Card for $200.00.
Dire Straits on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Obama doesn’t want sick kids to have insurance.
faraway on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Jimbo3′s new job on hold…
ya2daup on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
When you’ve lost MAD Magazine…
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
They are projecting, that’s what they do. Although I would not be at all surprised if some union goons didn’t deliberately create some havoc in the districts of these people just to make it look like it came from some deranged TPer. Didn’t that happen in CO over the summer? Or GA, or somewhere? Somebody was complaining their office was vandalized and it was determined the person who did it was actually a lefty or some Lyndon LaRouche whackjob or something.
This is all part of the M.O. people. Be prepared for it; we will be tarred with all manner of accusations.
NoLeftTurn on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Yes, I believe that DerLeader’s Bigotry is showing.
PappaMac on March 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Notice the absence of the lefty trolls? I suspect this is a topic they’d rather not talk about or even bother spinning.
AUINSC on March 24, 2010 at 5:45 PM
A 2,000 page bill just wasn’t quite big enough to fit in all the awesomeness.
BadgerHawk on March 24, 2010 at 5:45 PM
God Bless Darrell. He was a client of mine in San Diego when he was CEO of Directed Electronics in Vista CA. Always a straight-shooter and good guy.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 5:45 PM
First the New Deal. Now the FU Deal.
/apologize in advance for the language. Was influenced by my Vice President.
faraway on March 24, 2010 at 5:45 PM
OK, between the AnninCA cracks, the Slaughter teeth comments and now this I have spit green tea all over my floor…3 freaking times! I feel the need to quote my favorite line the the movie “The Sandlot”
“You’re killing me Smalls”!
milwife88 on March 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Given that this Congress passed bills in which “placeholder” sections existed that got filled in after the vote (e.g., House Cap-n-Tax bill), I wouldn’t be surprised if a “lo-and-behold” discovery occurs and a miraculous recovery from the “oversight” occurs.
ya2daup on March 24, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Remember awhile back when P.Lousy was putting on the show, near tears & saying she remembered the violence of the 70′s or some sh&^ and was afraid? As people at the time said, any violence in the 60′s & 70′s was by liberals, not conseratives like always.
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Wasn’t Obama supposed to take some catch up classes to learn how to be a president? And then he did his brackets instead.
snaggletoothie on March 24, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Here
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 5:47 PM
“Scab eater”
faraway on March 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM
If this bill was really about health care, they might have remembered it.
Daggett on March 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Does anyone still think if this is not repealed the American people will not rise up and one way or another take the country back.Like some people are saying now .It,s going to get much worse before it can get better.
thmcbb on March 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Does Obama know that Easter is a religious holiday, or does he think it is just a traditional event where the country pays homage to big rabbits?
rplat on March 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Ones that survive attempts to abort them, by all accounts.
ya2daup on March 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM
My money is on the extreme left of the dem party who are pi$$ed that there is not a public option and the bill isn’t radical enough!
milwife88 on March 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM
They were busy in every other thread today on O-Care, typing their little fingers to the bone, rushing hither and yon from point to point to ‘prove’ their case that this is such a great law! It’ll solve so many problems; Utopia is arrived!
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Yes, Denver
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM
First the New Deal, now the L7 (Weenie) Deal
faraway on March 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM
And the media will run with the stories.
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Talking points have not arrived. Mom shut down the crackberry.
katy the mean old lady on March 24, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Hmm:
From a Doctor Who Will Not Comply (Corner, NRO):
Otherwise known as “Death Panels.”
notropis on March 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Heard the AP top of the hour news, and yes they ran with this threat to Democrats story. Some how it was inevitable.
sandee on March 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM
HAHA…did you hold your fingers up to demonstrate the L7? You know you did. :) And if you didn’t you are trying right now! Soooooo busted!
milwife88 on March 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Here is my take… our Founding Fathers gave us a Constitution so we do not have to resort to violence to win this political battle.
However, there are many lunatics out there. People who have the attention of the public on a national level get threats all the time. Reagan actually got shot by a lunatic. This is nothing new. That is why they have the security measures in place, especially at our Capitol. But if an average American gets a death threat the best we can do is get a restraining order.
I agree with Sandee, they will use anything as a distraction so the facts of what they just did to our country are ignored. I do not wish anyone ill will, but we must not lunatics distract us from working hard to undo this mess civilly. Therefore, let the Capitol Security and Secret Service find the lunatics and let us keep hammering home what is really in the bill so we can take back the House in November.
truetexan on March 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Just as well. Most Lutheran and Catholic schoolkids’ parents probably oppose 0 anyway. I mean, if you pay taxes to support public schools and tuition in addition, you are most likely anti-0bama.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Really? I though the fight started a year ago. Perhaps this over-confidence and over-optimism is not doing a lot for us.
neuquenguy on March 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Wow, that Sarah Palin is a real lightweight thinker, isn’t she.
/
PappaMac on March 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Ann had an Anninacanning orgasm for the first time.
katy the mean old lady on March 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM
I think I heard tonight is the Troll Correspondence Dinner at the White House.
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM
His little snowflakes better not be at the eggroll then since they go to Sidwell Friends instead of a public school.
teke184 on March 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Up Nort’, Stupak will keep a wary eye out for these flying comestibles.
ya2daup on March 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM
There never has been a guarantee that a pack of crooks would not mangle our laws–just eternal promise that we would be able to elect a contrary majority to reverse the trend. Even if it takes 3 years to assemble this majority we should not reject the project. Tearing this up in 2013 is in all ways the least damaging prospect.
It’s not just the 2000 page bill, it’s correlating it with existing federal regulations and case law.
Chris_Balsz on March 24, 2010 at 5:55 PM
How’s your cat?
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Pelosi’s too stupid to organize a proper douche. The notion of 219 congressmen voting for a bill she put together for national health care is breathtaking.
What imbeciles.
Jaibones on March 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM
milwife88, “You mix your Wheaties with your mama’s toe jam! “
faraway on March 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM
+++1!
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM
I find that vastly disturbing to think about.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Joe Biden’s comment to leaving out the children “What is the big AnninCAing Deal”.
Dire Straits on March 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Precisely. Let the law enforcement agencies run this to ground and clear the innocent and arrest the perpetrators. In the meantime, strong dissent against this socialist healthcare aberration must continue.
rplat on March 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM
I think that milwife88 is actually Wendy Peffercorn.
PappaMac on March 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM
That thought just made me wonder if I can get coverage for the effect it just had on me.
You really ARE mean! LOL
You know, this oversight killed a major selling point of the whole law. This is as big a foul-up as the Pubs passing a huge military appropriations bill but ‘forgetting’ to pay the troops.
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Democrats:
It would appear that Congressman Boehner caught them in another lie?
Oopsdaisy on March 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM
They shouted the ‘n’ word : debunked, didn’t work
They shouted the ‘f’ word : debunked, didn’t work
They spat on us : debunked, didn’t work
They are threatening us : ____________
In the meanwhile Bawnee Fwank and Rupaul Waters call us ‘teabaggers’ and Geraldo ( the house pandejo of FNS, who threatened to spit on Michelle Malkin ON AIR ) wets his moustache with tears about some spitting that never even happened …
and yes, every assasain is a lefty lib, but enough with the facts
macncheez on March 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM
I wouldn’t put a fake you-know-what attempt beyond the Dems. Maybe even an actual you-know-what. Who’s the least-liked member of their Congressional caucus, among the ones who voted for ObamaCare?
These people play for keeps, if you haven’t noticed, and they obviously have little regard for human life. To understand what they’re capable of, you need to think like a criminal.
venividivici on March 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Yum, looks good. If someone hurled one of them at me, I’d try and catch it with my teeth, if ol’ Aunt Bea Slaughter would hurry up and send me some.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Your aversion to Ann is recent, Liam. I remember a time in the not too distant past that you wanted to hug up with her.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Me too, but it has kept her relatively quiet today.
katy the mean old lady on March 24, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Thread winner.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 6:03 PM
I always hear that law enforcement people say tea
baggerspartiers are the most polite group they’ve ever seen protesting.Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 6:04 PM
So if there is no budgetary impact to letting people insure their lazy grown @ss children until they are 26 (due to them not actually including budget for it), doesn’t that mean it can’t be included in Reconciliation?
Russell28 on March 24, 2010 at 6:05 PM
Well, nothing is more hard-core than a reformed smoker.
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM
All I can say is that when we were at the 9/12 march, we left the National Mall looking a whole lot better than the Obamabots. We didn’t trash the joint.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Don’t kick him. Friend thought it was disgusting to let the Dawgs sleep on the bed. All I could say was”there have been worse things in my bed”. We all have lapses!
katy the mean old lady on March 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Yep just heard AP news number one story. Threats to valiant Democrats. Even said a tea party individual got the address of Congressman Perriello and cut the propane line. This is getting out of hand.They are really running with this. False teeth Slaughter herself was on saying windows were broken at her offices. Sounds like this is a coordinated attempt to destroy the tea party movement. Won’t work.
sandee on March 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Hey, consider yourself lucky that you dodged that one.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 6:07 PM
For the most part we/conservatives are very polite and orderly people. It’s the libloons who go ballistic and violent.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 6:08 PM
You are going to have to stay up late and tell us some stories on the QOTD thread some night.
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Yikes! Better lay in a few cases…
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Niagara Falls isn’t the safest of areas. We here in Buffalo think a lot of the residents there are nuts.
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Just like Joey Biden and gaffs, this is a bill that is going to keep on GIVING.
GarandFan on March 24, 2010 at 6:15 PM
We here in Omaha think the folks in the Beltway are nuts.
OmahaConservative on March 24, 2010 at 6:16 PM
This is just the beta version of ObamaCare. It may crash a few things, stall out an economy or two, force some massive closures and cutbacks, but don’t worry. The cost in human lives will be minimal, and the cost in actual dollars immaterial, since the debt will never be repaid, anyway.
“Free” ongoing fixes for bugs and security breaches should begin shortly.
Soon, this will be running as smoothly as Windows Vista.
(Oops.)
notropis on March 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM
We know they are. After all, how many of them are from NY? I’m guessing Albany figures it’s saving a mint on costs for the psychiactric hospitals to send a few of our loons to Washington.
Liam on March 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Yup! Exactly!!! And now BOR doesn’t see a connection between the lying, and deceit going on in Congress, and lying about being spat on. Yet without evidence, and he admitted that, he still finds the fault with someone at the rally. Whom is not seen doing any such thing, and no witnesses, other than the Congressman. With a police officer right next to him.
Pretty much sums up where these bozo’s are coming from.
capejasmine on March 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM
It probably looked better than before you got there.
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 6:25 PM
Biden: We’re not nuts son. We’re just an f’n big deal! ;)
capejasmine on March 24, 2010 at 6:26 PM
L.O.L. !!
Colorado Anne on March 24, 2010 at 6:27 PM
I am about as far from a Royal as you can get and I would have had to knock the snot out of some man for kissing me on the mouth. WTH was he thinking?
TXMomof3 on March 24, 2010 at 6:48 PM
And yet, they remembered to include the part where their staffers don’t have to follow the provisions on the law.
I say the Republicans should insist on that being retracted in the “fix.”
CJ on March 24, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Um, what’s the point of Congress and laws and stuff? Obama decides he wants a change, he tells an organization, and the legal rules change without a vote required?
Man, I completely misremember my Constitution class in High School… I thought the process worked somewhat differently. the President can overrule a law whenever he chooses?
Well, there’s only one thing to say to that.
Vivat Obama Rex
gekkobear on March 24, 2010 at 6:53 PM
That is exactly why they left it out. The basic liberty they killed was that I can’t offer someone an insurance policy based on my own calculations of risk/reward.
The Democrats so effectively demonized the insurance companies that Republicans were afraid to protect this basic fundamental liberty. All of the Republicans pretty much said “well, we agree with destroying the basic liberty of creating an insurance policy based on the policy writer’s judgment of risk/reward, it’s just the other stuff we oppose”. The thing is, that was the lynchpin liberty that once lost opens the door for taking away all liberty. You can no longer on principle defend any salesman offering his product for sale at the price he chooses after you take away that liberty.
Buddahpundit on March 24, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Oh honey, just google irish westies in nyc. Wayyyyyy worse things in the sack that a Lab and the Boston(terrier) Strangler!
katy the mean old lady on March 24, 2010 at 7:05 PM
There goes the CBO scoring of the bill, but then what’s a few extra trillion here or there.
UnderstandingisPower on March 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Is it just me or is Pelosi looking particularly psycho-ugly in that video?
ladyingray on March 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM
This is amusing. My daughter is 25 in four days, and drops off of my employee policy on the day after. We’re all set to buy alternative (catastrophic care) coverage from Kaiser for $125/mo. and then one of my wife’s liberal friends says “Guess what? Your employer needs to take her for another year! You conservative nutjobs are going to benefit from ObamaCare!”
We called my employer’s health insurance administrator to get more information, but she said they have no idea what’s in ObamaCare and are frantically trying to figure it out.
Maybe I’ll call her back and point to this article. And I’m going to really love the conversation with liberal friend tonight.
unclesmrgol on March 24, 2010 at 7:35 PM
This is law making, not interpretation of existing law. I doubt it will fly in court, until the laws are fixed by the Democrats to “make it so”.
unclesmrgol on March 24, 2010 at 7:38 PM
My splitting headache just got worse. The One and two and three went on and on about this part of the bill and then ‘forgot’ to write it in. If it didn’t make my head throb, I’d be laughing. What competency, what thoroughness, what over whelming effectiveness. So much for Obama bothering to read the bill at any rate. And since the GOP had no input this towering idiocy is squarely on the head of the Dems. What a bunch of ditzes! and they think they can run the country!
jeanie on March 24, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Some animals are more important than other animals.
unclesmrgol on March 24, 2010 at 7:40 PM
This will be the Obamateurism of the Year!
unclesmrgol on March 24, 2010 at 7:42 PM
To paraphrase the Wicked Queen of the Land of Left, “You gotta pass the bill to find out whats not in it”.
gordo on March 24, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Remember those kids in wheel chairs and with chronic conditions etc etc that they trotted before the cameras and told all those sob stories about and they forgot, yes forgot to actually write it into the law. Carries incompetence to a new level and these are actually in charge of the country. Next thing you know they’ll cover their behinds by saying, yes, it was there all the time but we couldn’t find it right away and pre-date it and sneak it in!!! Oh this is just one for the books.
jeanie on March 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Barry, Nancy and Harry—the Key Stone Cops and the Three Stooges.
jeanie on March 24, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Oh, and I forgot the Marx Brothers.
jeanie on March 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM
Dingell, the Congress’ dummy, thinks it will cover 300 people. Listen carefully.
Schadenfreude on March 24, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Little Marcellus goes under bus!
PattyJ on March 24, 2010 at 8:25 PM
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