Oh my: 62% want GOP to keep fighting ObamaCare

posted at 7:28 pm on March 24, 2010 by Allahpundit

As previously noted, every single poll about this nightmare from now to November and beyond will be fraught with meaning and hyped to the skies as the true barometer of public sentiment about The Boondoggle That Saved America.

That said, I’m more than happy to hype this one. Shazam:

The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges.

Americans are split about the fact that the bill largely lacked bipartisan support. Fifty percent said they were disappointed that the bill did not have support from both parties, while 44 percent said that it doesn’t matter…

Despite a Congressional Budget Office analysis finding that the bill will ultimately lower the budget deficit by $143 billion over the first ten years and $1.2 trillion dollars in the second ten years, 57 percent of those surveyed, including most Republicans and independents, say the bill will increase the deficit. Just 18 percent say it will decrease the deficit.

The bill got a modest bounce after passage, from 37/48 to 42/46. As for the bombshell about people wanting the GOP to keep fighting, I can’t come up with a way to reconcile that with the numbers who support it. How can 42 percent approve while 62 percent — including 41 percent of Democrats! — want the GOP to keep challenging it? Is there some huge swath of centrist Dems that like the idea of health-care reform in principle but want Republicans to whittle it down a bit? If so, then yesterday’s Gallup poll was even screwier than thought. Only nine percent of Dems in that sample thought the bill was a bad thing, compared to 14 percent of Republicans who thought it was a good thing. And yet 41 percent of them want the O-Care wars to rage on? Does not compute.

Bottom line, though, on this early, early weathervane: The “repeal and replace” strategy is alive and well. In fact, to further reassure centrist Dems that we’re not going back to the status quo, the new GOP talking point is to promise full repeal while targeting the most unpopular provisions (like the mandate) first. That’s reminiscent of Cornyn’s now infamous “partial repeal” strategy, but the biggest problem with what Cornyn said was the poor messaging, not the idea that certain elements of O-Care might be replicated in a scaled-down GOP package. This is an improvement in that regard, at least.

We’ll be hearing plenty of screeching about the GOP’s fierce partisanship in trying to undo the big liberal achievement over the next few months, so in addition to mentally flagging this poll as evidence of where bipartisan sentiment lies, enjoy this clip of Gibbs comparing McCain to a six-year-old for vowing to be uncooperative. What’s the problem, Gibbsy? Madam Speaker says partisanship is just fine when there’s an important goal at stake.


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They are trying to make a few people become unhinged.

faraway on March 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Totally agree. Without a doubt, this is what they’re doing.

That’s just how depraved they are.

Missy on March 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Besides lying, they are goading us.

mobydutch on March 24, 2010 at 8:38 PM

He has a really tough job that he’s really bad at. Not a good combo.

BadgerHawk on March 24, 2010 at 7:38 PM

No need to feel sorry. Most beneficiaries of the Peter Principle have no idea what’s going on around them.

Missy on March 24, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Donks, you don’t want to be making false “violence” reports. Cops responding to these aren’t available for your needs. You will have needs as thugs will target you. Hell, you’re a Donk and must be living good. Thugs are rational.

Donks, you don’t want to lie anymore. Maybe your nose is still short but your reputation is growing; not in a good way.

Donks. You brought a war ’cause you think you can win. By deception. Ain’t happening. Conservatives love challenges. Witness 1945. Alinsky as the only book in your library spells failure.

Caststeel on March 24, 2010 at 8:41 PM

ONLY 62%??

Khun Joe on March 24, 2010 at 8:42 PM

“Oh, my” ? Allah, don’t tell me you’re surprised! Of course the majority, you know, the same majority that opposed this all along, will want the GOP to continue to fight. What did oyu expect? Just because the Dems rammed this thru, everyone was just going to roll over?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on March 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM

milwife88 on March 24, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Another happy thought brings a smile to my face today- Things are gonna look up – I am catching Sarahcuda optimism fevah! Thanks for passing that one along- God I just love Dennis Miller- more smiles and laughs!

huskerdiva on March 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM

The Republicans have been mindless idiots when it comes to concerns of citizens in their own country.

People WANT health insurance reform. The pre-existing condition situation is murder and is killing many of us financially.

If the Republicans would take out a free market sledge hammer to this monstrosity, they can…I repeat they can turn this lemon in to lemonade.

rickyricardo on March 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Jake Tapper is the only non-FNC journalist who seems to ever challenge the Democrats.

Log on March 24, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Log:And he’s been doing it since the Lib primaries into
the Presidentcy!

canopfor on March 24, 2010 at 8:47 PM

rickyricardo on March 24, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Republicans are not ignoring the preexising conditions aspect as something that needs reforming. Eric Cantor has made clear that the Republicans’ proposed bill spoke to that very issue, among others.

OneVision on March 24, 2010 at 8:51 PM

I think a good message, leading into November, is to send all Democrats who voted for this bill a tube of lipstick, cause they will never have enough for that Frankenpig!

Star20 on March 24, 2010 at 8:58 PM

People will wonder why he needs to “sell” a bill so wonderful.

Precisely. If the bill was as wonderful as Dems say it is, you know the MSM would be publishing long articles every day detailing the awesomeness for every American. Instead: crickets.

Given their cheerleading for the admin thus far, that says A LOT.

Missy on March 24, 2010 at 8:58 PM

I think the question was “Do you want Republicans to continue to challenge parts of the bill.” Look at the first paragraph of the article. That could also help explain the inconsistency.

Jimbo3 on March 24, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Jimbo3 on March 24, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Snoozefest 2010 comrade.

daesleeper on March 24, 2010 at 9:18 PM

What inconsistency, Jimbo?

ObamaCare polls terribly in the overwhelming majority of polls.

The fact that 41% of DEMOCRATS want the GOP to keep fighting even parts of their party’s hallmark goal shows you how incredibly flawed it is. They must really hate something in it.

Chuck Schick on March 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM

62% of America may want them to keep fighting it but there’s 100% of me and my family that want them to. I’d say that’s a majority, so bite the bullet and get to work boys, there’s fightin’ to be done.

ted c on March 24, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I love the “Oh My” always makes me laugh

dangitt on March 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Biggest takeover of America without bloodshed. Amazing. This is what we’ve become. Helpless friggin statues.

johnnyU on March 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM

LMAOROTF! I’m sure Barry and Nancy sold the Democrats in the House and Senate on the idea that once the vote was over, things would quiet down. So far, it’s not looking good.

Exit question: How many Democrats are looking forward to the “Easter Break”?

GarandFan on March 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM

I think a good message, leading into November, is to send all Democrats who voted for this bill a tube of lipstick, cause they will never have enough for that Frankenpig!

Star20 on March 24, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Blanche Lincoln is my senator. I’m sending her a package of these with a note that says, “Pack up yer crap — you’re comin’ home to Arkansas!”

NoLeftTurn on March 24, 2010 at 11:48 PM

The Dems strategy between now and November is simple:

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

This is why the Dems are “pushing” the violent Tea Party meme today.

This is also why they will push immigration reform soon.

They are trying to make a few people become unhinged.

faraway on March 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM

The Dems strategy between now and November is simple:

ALINSKY RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

This is why the Dems are “pushing” the violent Tea Party meme today.

This is also why they will push immigration reform soon.

They are trying to make a few people become unhinged.

faraway on March 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM

CANNOT be repeated often enough. They are baiting the people. DON’T FALL FOR IT.

That said, I don’t feel any sympathy for them. They brought this level of discourse to the country, even before Bush was elected – they’ve been coarsening it since the 1960s. Now that they’ve poked the hive, they don’t like it.

But don’t give them what they need to use it against the good guys.

capitalist piglet on March 25, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Yes, those 62% willing to talk aloud (not including the “silent majority’) are not going to roll over into serfdom.

I am not surprised that outraged Americans are legitimately protesting the Democrats’ federal socialism made into unconstitutional law. I am also not surprised that these corrupt Democrat socialists are submerging their guilt by fabricating stories directing public attention away from their fierce atrocities against the Constitution as they forge ahead perverting our federal government into succinct organized crime.

Note well the whole cloth fabrications of “hate speech” and “hate crimes” that Democrat Congressional members are selling. Rep. Slaughter is spreading the socialist “victim” mantra that children of Democrat legislators are threatened by Republicans. The Republicans were locked out of the closed door meeting between the Democrat legislators and the FBI.

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:25 AM

Socialism begun by Rousseau is as old as our American Revolution. America rejected any form of authoritarianism, whether subjected by royalty, aristocracy, empire or socialist party in all varieties as the ruling class with monopoly of power over life. The only reason that the socialists Wilson and FDR succeeded was because hard working American citizens trusted each other including their leaders. That no longer exists.

With obedient neoconservative socialists, there is no surprise that they blame the constitutional conservative Tea Party law abiding Americans for the socialists’ scapegoats. After all, the Tea Party has been tagged by DHS official authoritarians as radical domestic terrorists. Neoconservatives not only endorse socialized biggest government, but created it federally, hand gifted for Obama to augment abuse. Neoconservatives’ clean noses are baptized in socialism, giving PC socialism new birth in the Republican Party.

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

x?

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

There is nothing “centrist” about neoconservative socialism unless you are a socialist.

The Constitution is the only “centrist” American theme that unites our citizens found equal under the law, providing the only government in the history of the world that protects Liberty of citizens as they enjoy unalienable rights.

Those rights are not recognized by socialists who propagate the feudal order (elitist ruling class) to subjugate and “control” the population.

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM

“Neoconservative” hang-up?

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Better fight socialism now than later. It isn’t simply our homes and lives, but our entire nation that is being stolen.

American free trade assessment

It seems like an inauspicious place to look, but we must look to the marble palace on Constitution Avenue: the Federal Reserve. Here is the institution that runs the moneymaking machines that guarantee all the debt and that will create the phony money to pay for these insane dreams of universal happiness. Without the Fed, I can promise you, no one in Washington would be in a position to promise such absurdities.–Mises Daily

Europe’s socialist government assessment

Budget 2010: Alistair Darling’s tax raid on middle class
Alistair Darling used Labour’s last Budget before the election to carry out a £19 billion tax raid on the middle classes to help pay Britain’s record debt.

David Cameron, the Tory leader: “They want to tax your car, your phone, your business, your jobs. These are the ticking tax bombshells timed to go off the day after the election that will destroy our recovery. Instead of more waste, more spending, more taxes, what this Budget needed to do was ease the burden on our families and businesses and let enterprise flourish.”

Mr. Alistair Darling, British Chancellor: “We have not raised these taxes out of dogma or ideology. We are determined to ensure our overall tax regime remains competitive. But I believe those who have benefited the most from the strong growth in incomes in past years should now pay their fair share of tax.”
UK Telegraph

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM

“I am not an ideologue.”–Obama, potus

“We have not raised these taxes [on everything] out of dogma or ideology.”–Darling, chancellor.

maverick muse on March 25, 2010 at 11:43 AM

I’m curious to know what the Hot Air writers’ think of this story about Georgia’s AG being threatened for refusing to file lawsuits against health care.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/georgia-attorney-general_n_512970.html

dr_duke09 on March 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I’m curious to know what the Hot Air writers’ think of this story about Georgia’s AG being threatened for refusing to file lawsuits against health care.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/georgia-attorney-general_n_512970.html

dr_duke09 on March 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I’m curious to know if you’re just as curious about threats made toward conservative Republicans for the positions they might take on issues or just those made toward liberal Democrats for their positions. I suspect only the latter or you would not have raised the issue.

sdd on March 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM

sdd on March 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Hey threats made against anyone because of their stand on issues are reprehensible.

But you’ve still not answered the question. Bullying by code-pink is reprehensible, camping out in front of John Yoo’s house is quite frankly silly, making threats against congressmen and senators because of how they voted on a health care bill is reprehensible. Frankly when anyone resorts to threats of violence when they can’t get their way is just as reprehensible.

And attempting to bully the AG, as the Georgian governer is attempting to do, is just as reprehensible.

So before you go suspecting anything, please see my comments above.

It doesn’t matter if you have a D, and R or an I after the politicians name

dr_duke09 on March 25, 2010 at 3:29 PM

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