We won’t try to repeal all of ObamaCare, says Cornyn

posted at 5:43 pm on March 23, 2010 by Allahpundit

There’s probably something he could have said that would depress his base more than this, but offhand, I can’t think what that might be. He’s trying to reassure centrists here that repeal wouldn’t mean a return to the status quo but merely replacing O-Care with a more moderate GOP-crafted plan — after all, even a stalwart like Pence offered to work with centrist Dems on bipartisan reform — but given the anxiety among the grassroots that Republicans won’t have the political will to roll this thing back even after they return to power, this is pure poison.

Limbaugh warned them yesterday (see here at around 3:55) that the “repeal!” cries had better be more than a campaign slogan. So much for that.

In the wake of the passage of health care reform, nearly the entire slate of Republican senatorial candidates seems ready to run on a repeal of the bill. But now, the lawmaker overseeing their election strategy is softening the message. Rather than promising to scrap the bill in its entirety, the GOP will pledge to just get rid of the more controversial parts…

“There is non-controversial stuff here like the preexisting conditions exclusion and those sorts of things,” the Texas Republican said. “Now we are not interested in repealing that. And that is frankly a distraction.”

What the GOP will work to repeal, Cornyn explained, are provisions that result in “tax increases on middle class families,” language that forced “an increase in the premium costs for people who have insurance now” and the “cuts to Medicare” included in the legislation…

The senator’s comments on Tuesday also included a push to restore funds for Medicare Advantage — an odd political moment, considering the GOP’s self-promotion as the party that trims the fat off entitlement programs.

“Without perhaps realizing it,” writes Ramesh Ponnuru, “Cornyn has come out for tinkering at the edges of Obamacare.” Indeed. I shudder to think what the tea party reaction will be to third-party candidacies now, but the political consequences here are less alarming than the policy consequences. Does Cornyn … not understand that the preexisting conditions exemption will also drive up premiums? If insurers can’t refuse to cover high-risk clients, that risk will need to be spread. And guess who it’ll be spread to. Quoth Ross Douthat:

But to the extent that Cornyn’s vision coheres, what he seems to be proposing is a reform of the reform that keeps the goodies and takes away the spending cuts and tax increases that pay for them.

California, here we come …

Here’s Cornyn’s statement insisting that he was misquoted by HuffPo. Was he?

Some media outlets have misrepresented my position on repealing and replacing the President’s $2.6 trillion health care bill. Make no mistake about it: I fully support repealing this Washington takeover of health care and replacing it with a bipartisan bill that lowers the cost of health care.

“Republicans have long pointed out that there are areas of health care reform where there is bipartisan agreement. Yet, instead of working with Republicans to solve issues of bipartisan concern such as pre-existing condition exclusions, Democrats insisted on a purely partisan bill that included massive tax hikes, trillions of dollars in new taxpayer spending, and cuts to Medicare, while failing to address rising health care costs.

“We will do what Democrats failed to do; start with common-sense measures and craft a truly bipartisan bill that does not raise taxes, does not pillage $500 billion from a bankrupt Medicare program and does not increase premiums on working families.

To some extent we’re arguing semantics here — “partial repeal plus some new provisions” is equivalent to total repeal plus a substitute Republican law that replicates a few aspects of O-Care — but it’s half-assed to identify individual provisions that’ll be kept in place not because they’re cost-effective or because they’re essential to a grand GOP plan but because they’re “non-controversial.” That’s dangerously close to saying they’ll be retained because they’re popular, which, per Douthat, is precisely how California ended up in the mess it’s in. The time has come for hard choices. Are they up to it?


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TexasJew on March 23, 2010 at 6:08 PM

TJ, LTNS.. missed ya Man!

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

The time has come for hard choices. Are they up to it?

Yes, we the voters are up to it – in 2010, 2012, 2014, throw all incumbents out, all of them. The founding fathers didn’t have career politicians in mind, to be our masters versus slaves, who’re exempt from the laws they shove down our throats.

Schadenfreude on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Term Limits!

Knucklehead on March 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM

The LACK of term limits is the root of EVERY problem we face.

every. single. one.

blatantblue on March 23, 2010 at 5:50 PM

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

huskerdiva on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

AUINSC, no in the first 6 months the pre-existing clause kicks in for Children, and within the first year the caps the Insurance companies put on your policies starts. They are easing into the taxes somewhat. They want to be reelected.

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

I’m beginning to think Sen. Cornyn needs a primary challenger in his next race.

irishspy on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

He’s just trying not to be stupid enough to write the Democrat ads for them. The Democrats ads will take the most popular part of the bill, the part that conservatives object to least, and make ads that say this is what Republicans hate most about Health Care Reform.

RBMN on March 23, 2010 at 6:08 PM

+100. As I said before, and many liberals admit, repealing the mandate is all you need to bring down Medicare.

Apologetic California on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Good luck repealing this once uninsured voters start receiving their health coverage.

Constantine on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

*Obamacare

Apologetic California on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Calm down, I am sure there are some good parts in a 2500 page bill, he promised nothing and for the record if there something good in the bill, why repeal it because the other 99% is an atrocity?

rob verdi on March 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM

It’s best to kill the beast completely. Then if there are good parts … which I sincerely doubt, then simply insert them into a much leaner bill.

In addition … the Republicans should present a completely partisan bill. Keep the democrats out or else they’ll wear the Repubs down and get some crap snuck in there.

To hell with the democrats. Let then earn their way back in by actions.

darwin on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Cornyn you just lost your seat.

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Cornyn is my senator. He’s heard from me before. He’ll be hearing from me again!

capejasmine on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Republican Leadership…

Yes, we will fight HARD to overturn Obama’s Illegal executive order, that he didn’t sign yet…

oh… wait…

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

The Republicans need to repeal first and foremost.

Then pass their own bill that contains only 2 things:

1) Tort reform.

2) Allow insurance companies to compete across state lines.

That bill would be *maybe* 4 pages…in BIG font.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Good luck repealing this once uninsured voters start receiving their health coverage.

Constantine on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

LOL! No one receives coverage under this plan until much later on.

Apologetic California on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Crist & Cornyn are cut from the same RINO cloth. Sickening…

OmahaConservative on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

The phrase Repeal and Replace is going to get a lot further than Repeal alone.

It is important that we win the next battle! Time is of the essence! We have to fix this thing before people become addicted or it will be here forever!

In fact I hope they are doing all that stuff I hated under Clinton. I hope they are doing focus groups to get the wording exactly right and I hope they are really really doing more than shouting REPEAL!

We simply must be smarter than we have been! This is freedom at stake! And the Dems know better than anyone how to addict people. They are artists at getting people to agree to sell their children into slavery.

petunia on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Brave New World of ObamaCare. “We, as consumers, are going to have to change our spending habits. We’ll have to stop demanding the latest of everything because we think it’s the best.” – Dr. Tim Johnson on ABC World News

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/health-care-reform-costs-10173838

ninjapirate on March 23, 2010 at 6:12 PM

This entire country is in shambles. Any resemblance to the great Republic it once was is purely accidental. The similarities between this government and “Idiocracy” is frightening.

rplat on March 23, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Term Limits!

Knucklehead on March 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM

The LACK of term limits is the root of EVERY problem we face.

every. single. one.

blatantblue on March 23, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Partly… but we also need the Senate to go back to being the direct representatives of the STATEs….. I suggest each Governor appoints one, and each State Legislature gets one… and they can be recalled…

Also need to be able to recall folks in the House of Reps.

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

non-controversial stuff here like the preexisting conditions exclusion and those sorts of things

Non-controversial?!? Is he out of his f**king mind?

russcote on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Brave New World of ObamaCare. “We, as consumers, are going to have to change our spending habits. We’ll have to stop demanding the latest of everything because we think it’s the best.” – Dr. Tim Johnson on ABC World News

AnninCa you, Dr. Johnson.

NoLeftTurn on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

There are other parts that the public also likes. It was done on purpose. I meant to say Insurance companies can’t put caps on the amount they will cover. Yes these will most certainly cause the Insurance companies go under. I heard an expert say 3-5 years.

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Repeal, replace … then start dismantling the tools the communists have implemented that has led to using taxpayer money to fund their operations. Stop the funding of special interest groups with taxpayer money

darwin on March 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM

This should be part of any serious conservative candidate’s platform and right up there with repeal this POS, & Term Limits

huskerdiva on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Separate Tea Party candidates for every district! Let the people choose whether they want, as their Representative, a Democrat, a Dem-Lite (aka Republican) or a True Conservative.

factoid on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

No one’s up to the really hard choices. The sad simple truth is that as long as Medicare, Social Security, and this superturd of a Hell Care bill incentivize people to rely on the gubmint and reluctant taxpayers instead of themselves, the country is doomed to financial ruin. The only thing to argue is how long we have left. No one has the guts to really try to cut the head off of the Entitlement monster.

CantCureStupid on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Let’s not get distracted, guys and gals. We can deal with Cornyn once we regain the House and Senate. We knew we’d have to face off against the weaker Republicans, but FIRST THINGS FIRST. Kick out every Democrat in November. THEN turn up the heat on our guys to follow through! Got it? Hold your fire, hit the Dems and Obama square in the mouth in November, THEN make our guys do right. Focus on the Dems Focus on the Dems Focus on the Dems.!

Weight of Glory on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

That’s dangerously close to saying they’ll be retained because they’re popular, which, per Douthat, is precisely how California ended up in the mess it’s in. The time has come for hard choices. Are they up to it?

Give me a break. Are you actually suggesting that Republicans go out campaigning to restore insurance companies’ ability to deny coverage for preexisting conditions? The restriction for children takes effect about a month before the election. There are no dobt a very small number of children who will actually be affected and helped. But you can bet the Democrats will find every one of them and parade them all over the TV news and the Internet.

That’s a sure fire way to regain the majority.

Buy a clue, Allah. Republicans went through this whole exercise on the moral high ground because they said they agreed we need reform, just not the kind that Obama wants. That’s what 65% of America believes, too. The current status quo has never been accepted by Congressional Republicans. Had there been an actual bipartisan reform bill, it certainly would have included a few things that are in this bill and most, if not all, Republicans would support them. Insurance companies can be restricted from some of their worst practices, so long as they are allowed to price for risk. Anyone who is already sick should know they can get insurance, but they aren’t going to get it at the same price as the guy next door who is healthy. That’s a debate we should be more than willing to have this fall, and not just scream “repeal!” like a bunch of Braveheart-led Scots marching to their deaths.

Republicans also need to campaign for a better process. Real negotiations, in public. Mandatory town hall meetings for all members of Congress to explain the bill and get their constituents’ views. Mandatory 10 day period between release of the bill and any votes, in committee or on the floor. No special deals for any industry, any facility, and district, or any state. No reconciliation for final passage, it gets 60 votes in the Senate or it fails.

rockmom on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Heh… I was right in not donating to the RNC over the last few days…

Okay.. who wants to create the Tea Party?

Skywise on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

No Romeo… no appointing. That would be worse then it is now.

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

FIRE THE 219…

http://firethe219.blogspot.com/

There are several Senators I would like to add to this list. Cornyn and Nelson being in the top ten.

UnderstandingisPower on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

NoLeftTurn on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

I heard that AnninCAing tool say that last night on Savage in the car.

OmahaConservative on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

AUINSC, no in the first 6 months the pre-existing clause kicks in for Children, and within the first year the caps the Insurance companies put on your policies starts. They are easing into the taxes somewhat. They want to be reelected.

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Well, I know that people are already getting notices that their premiums are skyrocketing. And the taxes will hit employers immediately…that have to…that’s how the Dems gamed to bogus price tag.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

So sad. I actually liked him. Is he up this year? Curious level of mind-numbing stupidity to be uttering in such a political climate. As if this bill were even popular with republicans at all…wait.

Diane on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Repeal it and then get the federal government the Hell out of health care altogether.

Dave R. on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Good luck repealing this once uninsured voters start receiving their health coverage.
Constantine on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Scooter, that doesn’t happen until 2014. There is time.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Typical… and of course its getting love from my Lefty friends.

An open letter to conservatives

Sharr on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

1) Tort reform.

2) Allow insurance companies to compete across state lines.

That bill would be *maybe* 4 pages…in BIG font.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I’d add:

3) Tax-free personal/family medical savings account.

ROCnPhilly on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Cornyn has to go…. Endorses Crist, and other RINO’s and says crap like this. Texas – give him a swift kick in the ass with a big boot – OUT OF THERE….

suzyk on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Diane on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

He’s been screwing up for quite a while.

As far as that poll goes…it’s got a very funny odor about it.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

kingjester unfortunately some things do.

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Yup, lets try “Democrat light” again. How stupid can these people be? They have THE issue to erase the Democrats in 2010 and they through it away a few hours after the signing of the bill. It’s going to be a long six months.

neuquenguy on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM

The Republicans need to repeal first and foremost.

Then pass their own bill that contains only 2 things:

1) Tort reform.

2) Allow insurance companies to compete across state lines.

That bill would be *maybe* 4 pages…in BIG font.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Exactly. And they need to explain very simply what numbers 1 and 2 above mean for Joe and Jane Citizen in dollars and cents (and sense). I’d also like to see them all get on the same consistent page of railing against “fat cat, greedy, heartless lawyers who are leaving women and children to die — TO DIE! — while they reap their evil profits from the health care industry and spend those profits to buy off democrat politicians.” I would really like to see the trial lawyers demonized beyond all repair, and it can be done, because they are truly a despicable bunch.

Rational Thought on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM

LOOK AT THE OTHER COMMENTS! Then I will sing you a song to make the hurt go away. Your Crist copy is a JOKE!

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:09 PM

So what about other comments. I am a constituent of the guy and know his record. The WOT, the environment, judicial obstruction, taxes…it will take a little more than what some lefty site posts and kneejerk commentors rant to sway me. Like some actual facts that he is “Crist like”.

Some folks are so wound up they are ready to eat their own on the flimsiest evidence. The who will be left to fight the fight?

cozmo on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Health insurance premium rate increases is just the start. Once the first rationing of healthcare starts, Life Insurance Probability Tables will change and Life Insurance premiums will increase. And don’t think that your home and car insurance isn’t going to be affected by this POS Law.

Insurance is a business. They make money two ways. Collecting Premiums and Investment Income. Currently, there is no, or very little, Investment Income. All Insurance Rates will increase. It may get to the point that you won’t be able to own a house due to the cost of insurance on the property.

Don’t believe me…watch.

PappaMac on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

An open letter to conservatives

Sharr on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Wow. They really do not understand us at all, do they?

OmahaConservative on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Beck’s frog boiling analogy comes to mind

Kataklysmic on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

I don’t want ANY Republican searching for the “good parts” of ObamaCare and repealing the rest if it. Sh!tcan the whole thing and start over.

Partial repeal of ObamaCare is like the Chargers taking the entire Raiders team just because the Raiders have the one player they want.

ConservativeTony on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM

I know. But a bunch of the real damaging stuff will take a while.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

No Romeo… no appointing. That would be worse then it is now.

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

I don’t think so, because it would put bite into the 10th amendment and Federalism.

Right now there is NO check on Federal Power, except the Federal Government itself… States having a direct input into the Legislative process would go a LONG way to overturning the Power Washington currently has…

Right now the States are powerless, as the only way they can check the Federal Government is by going to a FEDERAL Court (which then decides if it wishes to hear the case).

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

cozmo on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Oh.. I get it. You don’t think your feet stink. Keep up there cozmo with that magazine you have. And stop walking in Horse crap… you are up to your neck in it.

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I’m not sure I’m savvy enough to link this…but I received an alert from NAR (National Association of Realtors) “esplaiynin” what the new health care reform means to ME. It is absolutely laughable! It’s basically a laundry list of Q/A: “Will I be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions? NO”
“Will they be able to charge me more because I have a pre-existing condition? No.”

Shazammm! Talk about dumbing things down! It made me furious.
I’m going to try to link it, here:

Chewy the Lab on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Good luck repealing this once uninsured voters start receiving their health coverage.
Constantine on March 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Scooter, that doesn’t happen until 2014. There is time.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Also, for the most part anyway, people will not be “receiving” their health coverage. They will have health coverage because they were compelled by law to obtain it and in some cases they may get a subsidy after the fact.

The people who are going to get a straight up give away were never going to vote Republican/conservative/libertarian anyway.

myrenovations on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Ooops, told ya: here.

Chewy the Lab on March 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM

And he will probably support the SEIU and their proposal to takeover our 401ks too!!!!!!!

Google the SEIU retirement initiative!!!

PappyD61 on March 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Buy a clue, Allah. Republicans went through this whole exercise on the moral high ground because they said they agreed we need reform, just not the kind that Obama wants. That’s what 65% of America believes, too. The current status quo has never been accepted by Congressional Republicans. Had there been an actual bipartisan reform bill, it certainly would have included a few things that are in this bill and most, if not all, Republicans would support them. Insurance companies can be restricted from some of their worst practices, so long as they are allowed to price for risk. Anyone who is already sick should know they can get insurance, but they aren’t going to get it at the same price as the guy next door who is healthy. That’s a debate we should be more than willing to have this fall, and not just scream “repeal!” like a bunch of Braveheart-led Scots marching to their deaths.

Republicans also need to campaign for a better process. Real negotiations, in public. Mandatory town hall meetings for all members of Congress to explain the bill and get their constituents’ views. Mandatory 10 day period between release of the bill and any votes, in committee or on the floor. No special deals for any industry, any facility, and district, or any state. No reconciliation for final passage, it gets 60 votes in the Senate or it fails.

rockmom on March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

–Unfortunately, there was a day long meeting, and the GOP only said they wanted tort reform and a few other things (generally relating to Medicare reform, if I remember correctly), along with a totally new bill. Nothing about pre-existing oonditions. Nothing about stopping worst insurance company practices. They had their chance and they stonewalled.

Jimbo3 on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Sounds like Cornyn never read the bill either. Sit down and shut up, or get out, Mr. Cornyn.

Nichevo on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

heh.
Told ya so.

The pain is not scheduled to start until after the election. Right up until then people will say that HC was a great idea and the the repubs are chicken little. The dems will use the time to convince everyone that “see that was nothing to fear. It was just the typical Republican scaremongering.” You know what the sad part is? It will work and the dems will not lose like many here think.

Single payer will happen by the end of next year because the dems are so simplistic in their thinking that they can do it right in front of us and we are just to dumbfounded to do anything because we just don’t understand how anyone with half a brain can fall for it.

But fall they will and they will take this country with them. Back in Nov 08 I said we are witness to the start of the end of this country and nothing can stop it from happening. The USA is done. It’s that simple. Expect exciting and dangerous times ahead for us.

RagTag on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Romeo, Ted Stevens was appointed. As I know he wouldn’t have voted for the POS bill, did an Okay job, was aquitted on charges and lost his seat.

The the question comes up… other then voting, as we all know that once they are in, in many cases you can’t get them out of that seat.. what do you do?

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

kingjester, that was by design. Obama is banking on people not realizing what has happened to them until it’s to late.He sees himself celebrating a triumphant second term. I see him out of there in 2013!

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

They have to emphasize that the genesis of the problem was government.

They have to emphasize that real reform means reducing government regulation, not creating more.

I wish someone would start pointing how illegal immigration has been a major player in skyrocketing health care costs … not “greedy insurance”.

darwin on March 23, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Partly… but we also need the Senate to go back to being the direct representatives of the STATEs….. I suggest each Governor appoints one, and each State Legislature gets one… and they can be recalled…

Also need to be able to recall folks in the House of Reps.

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:13 PM

THIS!!I love me some Romeo13

thomasaur on March 23, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Scooter, that doesn’t happen until 2014. There is time.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

True, we do have some time but Scooter’s also correct . . . trying to get all the free stuff away from those parasitic slugs will be tougher than pulling a wolverine’s wisdom tooth without an anesthetic.

rplat on March 23, 2010 at 6:22 PM

The time has come for hard choices. Are they up to it?

No. It’s beyond depressing to see that Wasington Republicans are being the weak go along to get along chumps just about everyone was afraid they would be. Time and time again we hear a lot of tough talk until the time to act comes and they buckle, always.

clearbluesky on March 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Health insurance premium rate increases is just the start. Once the first rationing of healthcare starts, Life Insurance Probability Tables will change and Life Insurance premiums will increase. And don’t think that your home and car insurance isn’t going to be affected by this POS Law.

Insurance is a business. They make money two ways. Collecting Premiums and Investment Income. Currently, there is no, or very little, Investment Income. All Insurance Rates will increase. It may get to the point that you won’t be able to own a house due to the cost of insurance on the property.

Don’t believe me…watch.

PappaMac on March 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM

–Not so sure about this. Don’t insurance companies set up different subsidiaries in each state to offer different lines of insurance. A state insurance commissioner would be able to determine if they were losing money on health care and trying to make it up on other lines, and would probably try to prevent that from happening.

Jimbo3 on March 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM

sandee on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Yeah, but unfortunately, that does not help health insurance agents garner new accounts and provide for their families. Especially the neophytes.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Hasn’t he been less then enthusiastic about the Tea Party folks?

OmahaConservative on March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Can you fill me in on the “AnninCAing” deal?

Cindy Munford on March 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Q/A: “Will I be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions? NO”
“Will they be able to charge me more because I have a pre-existing condition? No.”

Chewy the Lab on March 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Which means EVERYONES premiums will HAVE to go up… simple economics…

But my favorite part in the Reconcilliation bill, that all doctors are paid the same, no matter what their speciality is… so the best heart surgeon in the world, will get the same pay as me seeing my GP…

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Repeal and Replace.

1) Children can be insured on their parent’s policy until 26, hell 35, I do not care. So long as they pay the premiums.

2) Insurers should not be able to drop customers who are diagnosed with conditions while they are already insured, plus there should be limits on increases to premiums so that insurance companies cannot price those who get sick while already insured out of their policies.

3) Employer deductions for health care are done away with. This form of compensation should be replaced with higher salaries.

4) All medical insurance payments are tax deductible on each individual’s tax return. If this is so important to the government, why is the government taxing money spent on this? It shouldn’t. If you want to cap the deduction, fine. we can talk about it. A refundable credit for the plebs? Rather redistributive, but I can live with it.

5) Those who are currently insured through their employer can keep their policy — even if they leave their job or are fired or laid off — as long as they continue to pay the premiums — indefinite cobra.

6) Doctors should be required to post in their waiting room their charges for typical services, office visits, etc. Disclosure requirements should be added so that the doctor is required to disclose costs of procedures in addition to risks, etc.

7) HSA’s and high deductible policies are encouraged and expanded. Nothing will drive the cost of medicine down like a well informed consumer spending his own money — see LASIK and boob jobs.

8) Insurers should not be required to accept customers with pre-existing conditions. That would not be insurance, it would be welfare. Those who wait until they are diagnosed to seek insurance, are kinda screwed, but that is where individual responsibility and moral hazard comes in. There will be charities to help these people if the government stops confiscating 50% of what we earn. We can also set up some high risk pools for those who gambled and lost — it will not be cheap, but there needs to be consequences.

Let me know if you need help drafting the legislation, GOP…

tommylotto on March 23, 2010 at 6:25 PM

He better talk to DeMint, Cantor, Joe Wilson, etc because they are all saying “repeal”

DeMint’s online pledge site

http://www.repealitpledge.com

gophergirl on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Yup, lets try “Democrat light” again. How stupid can these people be? They have THE issue to erase the Democrats in 2010 and they through it away a few hours after the signing of the bill. It’s going to be a long six months.

neuquenguy on March 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM

They have always been “Democrat light” so why would this be a surprise to anyone?

RagTag on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Romeo, Ted Stevens was appointed. As I know he wouldn’t have voted for the POS bill, did an Okay job, was aquitted on charges and lost his seat.

The the question comes up… other then voting, as we all know that once they are in, in many cases you can’t get them out of that seat.. what do you do?

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM

They would serve at the whim of whoever appointed them…. thus the State Legislature could replace one, the Governor the other if they did not vote the way the STATE Government wanted them to.

Bet there would be a LOT of turnover, every State election cycle.

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Cindy Munford on March 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Ann dropped the F bomb twice in a post yesterday morning. The post was delected and Ann showed back up that evening.

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Damn these people….

Again, if Congress can ‘mandate’ that you buy insurance lest you be fined or sent to jail then what WON’T they mandate for our ‘own good’ in the future?

In the fashion of NY Jets fan I say, ‘AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!’

Dick Turpin on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Sharr on March 23, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Most of that is a joke. Sure there are hypocrites among us but to use so many individuals on the right to paint all of the right is a dishonest tactive.

CWforFreedom on March 23, 2010 at 6:27 PM

What the hell is wrong with this moron? We don’t want any of this crap! Don’t tinker with the bloody thing. GET RID OF IT! Oh and get rid of Social Security, Medicare/caid, Depts of Ed, HUD, EPA etc. We want to be FREE!

Iblis on March 23, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Senator Cornyn is the Chairman of NRSC and he will be hearing from me when I receive another e-mail begging for more money.
Here is the site if anyone would like to tell him/them what you think.
http://www.nrsc.org/

yoda on March 23, 2010 at 6:27 PM

There’s probably something he could have said that would depress his base more than this, but offhand, I can’t think what that might be

Allah,

Don’t be so silly, obtuse, or disingenuous (pick at least one).

The message needs to be “repeal and real reform” Some aspects of Obamacare are worthy of consideration by the GOP and to paint Obamacare as Hitlercare (i.e. rejecting without giving a different solution) is politically stupid.

Put another way, you can’t point out the final solution of Obamacare for old people to Hitler’s final solution for Jews and those deemed socially undesireable if you don’t also point out better ways to save money while reforming healthcare.

Cornyn and all the GOP leadership worked hard on this issue- the proof is that not one Republican defected. Not even Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, or John McCain. That takes leadership. What more could you expect on this vote than a 100% vote among the GOP? Pelosi, the currently crowned “smartest woman in the world,” didn’t get 100% of Dems to support Obamacare. Give Cornyn and all others on the right side of this issue a break. Pure evil and bribes trump real legislative initiatives every time.

Put in even simpler terms, We just watched the 1990′s version of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. This time Senator Paine wins.

highhopes on March 23, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Seems like Texas needs a couple of Senate replacements. This guy is a stupid joke … The go along to get along as lomg as their perch in the politburo is secure.

It’s what you get with un-principled people like this.

tarpon on March 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Repeal Cornyn

Herb on March 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Cornyn usually gets more conservative when he’s running for re-election, but since that’s no longer a problem, he’s gone back to disappointing me…I’ve already sent an e-mail to his office voicing my displeasure. It’s bad enough that Kay Barely Republican waffles on this type of thing, but Cornyn is in a leadership position within the Republican party…

Yikes!

golfer1 on March 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM

There is no way this thing isn’t going to destroy our economy. That has to be the plan. Nobody could expect this POS bill to be anything approaching economically feasible.

ROCnPhilly on March 23, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Cornyn needs to be put out to pasture where he can nibble at grass thru the holes in the barb wire. Minimally, go to the back of the room, sit down and STFU.

drfredc on March 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM

We need clarification of your remarks Senator, and we’d like it today.

diogenes on March 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Except you have states with NO, absolutely NO term limits. I can think of some states that can have a three and four term Legislator (my State included).

So unless it is the Gov who chooses… then what?

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:32 PM

That does it, I’m going to do everything I can to make sure Cornyn doesn’t return to the Senate.

smfoushee on March 23, 2010 at 6:35 PM

kingsjester on March 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM

She must have been overcome by the passage of the bill she has been dreaming about. I wonder if it was all she had hoped for?

Cindy Munford on March 23, 2010 at 6:35 PM

smfoushee on March 23, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Just make sure it’s a conservative Republican that replaces him.

AUINSC on March 23, 2010 at 6:35 PM

cripe!

cmsinaz on March 23, 2010 at 6:38 PM

hello!…..McFly!

cmsinaz on March 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Cornyn will be on hugh hewitt in 2 minutes to explain…if he can.

katy on March 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Except you have states with NO, absolutely NO term limits. I can think of some states that can have a three and four term Legislator (my State included).

So unless it is the Gov who chooses… then what?

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Thats why I’d have the Gov appoint one, and the State Legislature appoint the other… that way in States which have a split, each branch would be represented at the Federal Level… sometimes those votes would offset… but it would sure slow down the FED power grab (IMO).

I’m really looking at how our State Governments are powerless in relation to the Fed Government… yet that is not the way the Founder’s intended it…

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Guys,

Republicans have a massive uphill battle to get even a single scrap of ObamaCare repealed. They are unlikely to gain a majority of the Senate, and are not even in range of getting the 2/3 majority required to override a veto from Obama. So, the earliest this thing could be repealed is 2013, assuming: (i) Republicans win the Presidency; (ii) Republicans gain and hold strong House and Senate majorities; and (iii) public sentiment is strong enough to derail Democratic filibuster efforts.

So, what you instead have to do is focus on repealing the government takeover aspects of ObamaCare, and try to achieve the same access and cost savings using market-based solutions. That discussion can’t begin until next year, assuming Republicans kick the Dems’ butts at the polls this Fall.

Outlander on March 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Allah,

Don’t be so silly, obtuse, or disingenuous (pick at least one).

The message needs to be “repeal and real reform” Some aspects of Obamacare are worthy of consideration by the GOP and to paint Obamacare as Hitlercare (i.e. rejecting without giving a different solution) is politically stupid.

highhopes on March 23, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Yes, but you cannot frame it in a way that even partially validates Obamacare because that nullifies most of the anger the public has over it. Simply continue to hammer on the things that the public rightly hates, both in policy and process, and propose your own plan and process. What Cornyn did is basically say “you know, Obamacare is not all that bad”. Take the good points from the Democrate Plan but present them as your own (because they probably are), don’t give an ounce of credence to Obamacare because that simply neuters it as a powerful campaign issue that is really resonating with the public.

neuquenguy on March 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM

The problem with the concept of “term limits” is that it does nothing to combat the entrenched bureaucracies.

cthulhu on March 23, 2010 at 6:41 PM

As a Texan all I can say is John is all hat and no Wranglers.

Limerick on March 23, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Are you all sure insurance companies won’t be able to charge more for pre-existing?

I thought they could, but there would be a cap on how much the difference could be. Something like no more than 2X the premium for an otherwise identical policy without the pre-existing condition.

Can someone verify?

angryed on March 23, 2010 at 6:42 PM

You folks in Texas have the recall option, I hope.

Dusty on March 23, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I’m really looking at how our State Governments are powerless in relation to the Fed Government… yet that is not the way the Founder’s intended it…

Romeo13 on March 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM

That I will completely agree with.

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:44 PM

As a Texan all I can say is John is all hat and no Wranglers.

Limerick on March 23, 2010 at 6:42 PM

LTNS!

upinak on March 23, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Dump all RINOs. There are a few Congressmen and Senators that are worth keeping (Cantor for the former and DeMint for the latter come to mind) but there are plenty in the wishy-washy category. They are the ones to target in the primaries.

hachiban on March 23, 2010 at 6:45 PM

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