Obamateurism of the Day

posted at 8:05 am on March 22, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama wanted to let his caucus know that he understood how tough the ObamaCare vote would be for many of them. After all, Obama had been a legislator for almost the entirety of his political career. In a meeting with the House Democratic caucus on Saturday, Obama said he felt their pain:

I’ve been in your shoes. I know what it’s like to take a tough vote.

As Tom Elia recalls at the New Editor, it was more a matter of Obama knowing what it was like to avoid a tough vote:

Here are the facts: According to reports by both The New York Times and the Associated Press, Obama voted “present” 129 times as a state senator. The AP reported that Obama said the votes represented a small portion — a little more than 3 percent — of the “roughly 4,000″ votes he cast as a member of the state Senate.

The Illinois state Legislature allows members to vote “present” rather than “yes” or “no.” The Times reported in December that “present” votes provide a way for lawmakers to voice opposition to an issue. Such votes can also help them avoid the political fall-out of voting “no[.]“

In fact, it’s the only reason to vote “present.”  If it was an easy vote, why would anyone bother avoiding an “aye” or “nay”?  Instead of putting it as a percentage of the overall votes cast by Obama in the legislature, which includes a lot of hardly-contested pro forma voting, it would be more revealing to see how many of those came on controversial measures which could have stigmatized Obama in the long run.  I’d guess … 100%.

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Who do we blame for last night? Well George W. Bush, of course:

The question conservatives should be asking though, is how did we get in this position in the first place? How come, over the course of two elections, Democrats were able to take back the White House and amass substantial majorities in both chambers of Congress, allowing them to enact this sweeping legislation with no Republican votes – and huge defections in their own party? How could a generally right-of-center nation be taken over by liberals from Chicago and San Francisco?
The answer, of course, is that none of this would have been possible without George W. Bush — or more broadly speaking, Bush era Republicanism. While they were in power, Republicans squandered an opportunity to push free market health care solutions. When they did use their power to pass major legislation, it was for policies like the big government Medicare prescription drug plan, which was (until today) the largest expansion of entitlements since the Great Society. They took earmarks and doled out farm and energy subsidies. They earned a reputation for fiscal recklessness and corruption and incompetent governance. President Obama ultimately forced through the health care bill in spite of the political consequences to his party because he’s ultimately a true believing liberal. But it was only because of the failures of Bush-era Republicanism that an ideological liberal with little experience was able to capture the presidency on the abstract notion of change.
Today will be largely remembered as the biggest legislative victory for liberals since Medicare in 1965. But it should also be remembered as the day that Bush cemented his legacy as one of the most destructive presidents for advocates of limited government.

Mr. Joe on March 22, 2010 at 8:06 AM

It’s hard out here for a present….

apostic on March 22, 2010 at 8:09 AM

We are going to stuff this bill up the Democrat Party’s tailpipe one damn page at a time.

I will never submit to socialism.

OhioCoastie on March 22, 2010 at 8:11 AM

Well W. was never one for limited government. He’s part of the Rockefeller wing of the GOP, not the Goldwater wing. Now is the time to redouble our efforts and fight the State and all the statists. (with words, not guns)

rbj on March 22, 2010 at 8:11 AM

What a guy.

TimBuk3 on March 22, 2010 at 8:11 AM

While they were making that “tough vote”, he was watching basketball. “Feel your pain” my a$$.

DrStock on March 22, 2010 at 8:12 AM

He never really casted a true vote in the Senate the entire time he was there. You cannot be a martyer if you’ve not sacraficed anything.

milwife88 on March 22, 2010 at 8:12 AM

With any luck, Obama will use the momentum created by this vote to immeadiately take up cap and trade.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:13 AM

This isn’t so much a foul-up/mistake as a baldfaced lie.

Trent1289 on March 22, 2010 at 8:13 AM

I think that the GOP should all vote “present” for the reconcilliation bill. My only hope is that the gov’t doesn’t run the student loan program like FreddieMac/FannieMae.

kringeesmom on March 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM

It would be more accurate to say that Obama walks in Karl Marx’s shoes.

Buy Danish on March 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM

We really dodged a bullet by not electing that RINO McCain, huh?

JetBoy on March 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM

http://www.firenancypelosi.com

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Republicans attempt to win the debate by bringing facts, logic, reason, and a desire to reach the truth of the matter. Democrats don’t care about any of that because democrats are not interested in ‘winning’ the debate. Instead, democrats are interested in beguiling the audience, wooing the audience, enticing and entrapping the audience using emotion as a weapon because democrats are not interested in the truth.

Democrats want power. They will lie, cheat, bribe, mesmerize, terrorize or imprison anyone who opposes them. You can not win a debate with a democrat, you can only fight them.

Skandia Recluse on March 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM

But it should also be remembered as the day that Bush cemented his legacy as one of the most destructive presidents for advocates of limited government.

This couldn’t be any more true. Yes, Bush loved his country. But his limp-wristed domestic policy created the situation we are in today. Bush, the king RINO.

uknowmorethanme on March 22, 2010 at 8:18 AM

With any luck, Obama will use the momentum created by this vote to immeadiately take up cap and trade Amnesty.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:13 AM

uknowmorethanme on March 22, 2010 at 8:19 AM

Unfortunately, nobody cared in the election about his voting record. And they certainly won’t after this win.

He did, in fact, finally kick in and start to fight for this bill. It took him long enough and probably cost a lot of Dems their seats, but he got a huge, huge win.

Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Now, the question will be what happens in the Senate.

AnninCA on March 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM

I heard from the local news today that this bastard is talking about ‘immigration reform’ next. Woe to us as a nation for having a traitorous fool as president.

nyx on March 22, 2010 at 8:23 AM

That man has never stood up for anything in his life. He doesn’t have principles. In fact, I have trouble even calling him a man.

TXMomof3 on March 22, 2010 at 8:24 AM

Yall Chill! They have won exactly SQUAT! This is far from over folks! Hide and watch my friends…this will be hung up in court challenges for quite some time. Hopefully, WE will be back in charge soon and will simply unfund it. So sorry….but, the treasury is empty!

The RATS have taken sleezly to new levels, and have disgusted the country. Not only that, they’ve screwed with precedent and opened up new avenues of going around the rules that WILL be used against them. I look forward to the screeching!

graywaiter on March 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM

There is no question that without George W Bush and the GOP Congress from 2000 to 2006. Obama’s candidacy for 2008 would have been impossible, let alone his Presidency.

Bush is a good man but he was also too deferential to the likes of Tom Delay.. he folded pretty easily on Social Security. He did not seem to be interested in fighting hard for SS reform as much as he did for national security/foreign policy issues.

It is fair to say that he was more successful with Iraq, the initial period of the Afghan War and national security/terrorism issues than with any domestic issue.

Btw, “Obamateurism of the Day” for today seems rather out of place – whether you like the legislation or not, you have to admit that Obama kicked open the door to single payer with a very tenacious effort in which he never gave up the dream of single payer but merely kept changing the way it can be achieved.

I would say this qualifies for the most naked display of raw power by a politican since Nixon – and sadly there is nothing amateurish about that.

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM

The filthy lying dictator in the White House spent his entire time in the Il. Senate and then the US Senate planning his run for higher office. That means voting “present” on bills that would leave a record. The bastard was good at it. Look at how many conservatives morons demanded we STFU and give the bastard a chance to prove his centrist roots before being judgemental.

I’d like one of these idiots to explain how the “give him a chance” thing is working for them today.

highhopes on March 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM

Let PBHO own it, all of it, every last bit should be hung on his shoulders for all time. When this scheme falls apart as it eventually will, the Great Pain Feeler can explain to America why the destruction is so awesome.

Bishop on March 22, 2010 at 8:27 AM

TXMomof3 on March 22, 2010 at 8:24 AM

I wish the fool was just a self centered guy who does not care about principles like Clinton. Sadly he appears as Jimmy Carter deux. WRONG about everything and a commie to boot.

nyx on March 22, 2010 at 8:28 AM

I heard from the local news today that this bastard is talking about ‘immigration reform’ next. Woe to us as a nation for having a traitorous fool as president.

Sure, why not ? Lindsey Graham and John McCain and plenty other RINOS would give him bipartisan cover.

Sadly there are very few MickeyKaus Democrats otherwise immigration “reform” would be DOA in either legislative chamber.

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 8:28 AM

Well, if there is any consolation to be had from all this, the media are being forced to portray this vote not as a “singular triumph” for Obama, but as a divided Congress narrowly saving his ass from permanent lame-duckhood. And that’s exactly what it is. Nobody comes out of this looking good except Harry Reid, and he is going to lose in November anyway.

rockmom on March 22, 2010 at 8:28 AM

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight for freedom,
we shall fight in the voting booths,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the truth, we shall defend our land, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the phones,
we shall fight on the internet,
we shall fight in the town halls and in the streets,
we shall fight in the our local governments;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, America or a large part of it were subjugated , then our citizens, armed and guarded by the Constitution, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the land of the brave and the FREE, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of all.

gordo on March 22, 2010 at 8:30 AM

It’s hard to laugh any more, that Obama is already the worst president in American history by far, is going to hurt a lot of good people.

NoDonkey on March 22, 2010 at 8:32 AM

Unfortunately, nobody cared in the election about his voting record. And they certainly won’t after this win.

He did, in fact, finally kick in and start to fight for this bill. It took him long enough and probably cost a lot of Dems their seats, but he got a huge, huge win.

Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Now, the question will be what happens in the Senate.

AnninCA on March 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM

He won by cheating… So no I won’t give him credit… At all. Not one scintilla.

Of course, as a proponent of Barry’s economy grab, I’m sure that your happy. After all, he’ll use the pixie dust to make sure that everyone is always healthy now.

Illinidiva on March 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM

uknowmorethanme on March 22, 2010 at 8:19 AM

Cap and trade can be revoked. Once he gives citizenship to the illegals, that can’t be revoked.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 8:28 AM

Graham was threatening to walk away if Obamacare passed. Let’s see if he does it. McCain is lying low on amnesty, since he’s up for re-election and must fake out he’s a conservative in a border state (bordering the failed narco state Mexico.)

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM

We really dodged a bullet by not electing that RINO McCain, huh?

JetBoy on March 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM

If we had elected McCain, something very similiar would have been passed last year. Cap and trade would be law by now as well.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM

Those voters who chose to stay home really taught those Republicans a lesson, didn’t they?

ladyingray on March 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM

You can not win a debate with a democrat, you can only fight them.

Skandia Recluse on March 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM

I have found this to be generally true. However, the solution is to vote them from office. Now that fixes the problem!

BetseyRoss on March 22, 2010 at 8:36 AM

AnninCA on March 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Obama got elected to the state senate by having enough of his opponents signatures on the petitions disqualified for technicalities. (In his district the general election didn’t mean much.)

He got elected to the US Senate by having the Chicago Tribune petition a local liberal judge to open up the opponent’s sealed divorce records so the sex stuff the couple had wanted to keep private was made public.

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 8:37 AM

I have found this to be generally true. However, the solution is to vote them from office. Now that fixes the problem!

BetseyRoss on March 22, 2010 at 8:36 AM

I don’t live in San Francisco or Nevada. How do I vote Pelosi or Reid out of office?

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:38 AM

This is How Liberty Dies…to Thunderous Applause

Regardless of which party they are in, every elected official must be held to account for corruption. It’s not too late to bring America back, but conservative change begins with us!

dnlchisholm on March 22, 2010 at 8:38 AM

He never really casted a true vote in the Senate the entire time he was there. You cannot be a martyer if you’ve not sacraficed anything.
milwife88

And you can’t win a Nobel if you haven’t done anything. Right? Right???

Odamna’s entire life is a fraud based upon a vivid imagination and Bill Ayer’s instructions. There is no substance, nothing real about him, except that he is a true danger to our nation.

Crusader Rabbit on March 22, 2010 at 8:39 AM

The AP reported that Obama said the votes represented a small portion — a little more than 3 percent — of the “roughly 4,000″ votes he cast as a member of the state Senate.

If this is true, then it does take the sting out of the accusation that he voted “present” more often than not. In fact, I would think that it would put him on average.

That said, I think he’s lying.

Think I’ll do a little Internet digging.

Rod on March 22, 2010 at 8:40 AM

Not only do the RATS not understand that this IS government run health care…and that the government will decide who lives and dies… Care to wager that the DEATH PANELS will not be stacked quite to their liking once they are out of power? Ways & Means Committee…Nah, I wanna be on the Health Care Death Panel Committee! Let’s just see who contributed to whom shall we?

Stupid RATS! You asked for it, we may be generous and LET YOU HAVE IT.

graywaiter on March 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM

This is the moment when the Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor. Now what we need to do is find good, local candidates to support (or be) and take over the Republican Party from the RINOs

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. We had forgotten this, and must redouble our efforts.

rbj on March 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM

He did what he said he would…what can I say. This is what being a whiney American gets you. Even republicans complain and complain…you get certain (to be nice) folks in office, this can happen.

Lesson. Stop trying to teach lessons by letting republicans get voted out.

We are truly in exile.

tomas on March 22, 2010 at 8:44 AM

Crusader Rabbit on March 22, 2010 at 8:39 AM

Your right. But, he was given the award for things he “is going to do”. So, if that’s all it takes by the end of the day I am going to establish peace in the middle east, feed the hungry, house the homeless, cure the sick, give people more miles per gallon, eliminate crows feet, and do away with uneven tire wear.

Award please!
/

milwife88 on March 22, 2010 at 8:45 AM

Mr. Joe on March 22, 2010 at 8:06 AM

+ 1

csdeven on March 22, 2010 at 8:46 AM

This is the moment when the Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor. Now what we need to do is find good, local candidates to support (or be) and take over the Republican Party from the RINOs

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. We had forgotten this, and must redouble our efforts.

rbj on March 22, 2010 at 8:43 AM

I agree, except I do believe it was the Japs who bombed Pearl Harbor.

Disturb the Universe on March 22, 2010 at 8:48 AM

My only hope is that the gov’t doesn’t run the student loan program like FreddieMac/FannieMae.

kringeesmom on March 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM

Name a program the government doesn’t run that way.

csdeven on March 22, 2010 at 8:48 AM

The economy is going to crater because this passed. Double-dip recession, here we come.

Democrats will be lucky to just get voted out of office in November.

They can force people into their stupid system with this Bill. What they can’t do is to force employers to hire anyone or to not lay even more people off.

They’ll be lucky to get out of there with their very lives come November. Obama is going to be up to his jug ears in donkey blood come November.

NoDonkey on March 22, 2010 at 8:48 AM

As you wrote, Ed, it was much higher than 3% of the “real” votes. But even 3% is an irresponsible dereliction of duty.

jgapinoy on March 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM

“After all, Obama had been a legislator for almost the entirety of his political career.”

LOL. Good one, Ed.

KS Rex on March 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM

People, don’t forget, this has absolutely nothing to do with health care. It’s about power, and taking away more and more of your personal freedom!

rightside on March 22, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Disturb the Universe on March 22, 2010 at 8:48 AM

Not up on your Animal House quotes?

Gotta maintain a sense of humor folks. Laugh at the face of evil.

rbj on March 22, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Good morning comrades! I assume everyone has completed their mandatory calisthenics.

it would be more revealing to see how many of those came on controversial measures which could have stigmatized Obama in the long run. I’d guess … 100%.

You mean nobody in the media looked this up and published it during the campaign? How about opposition research by the highly competent McCain campaign?

forest on March 22, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Are the Democrats so insipid that they really believe his BS?

PappaMac on March 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM

You mean nobody in the media looked this up and published it during the campaign? How about opposition research by the highly competent McCain campaign?

forest on March 22, 2010 at 8:52 AM

That would have been mean. McCain told his staff that they were not to be mean during the campaign.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:55 AM

A DATE WHICH WILL LIVE IN INFIRMARY
Drudge headline

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Are the Democrats so insipid that they really believe his BS?

PappaMac on March 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM

That was rhetorical. Right?

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:55 AM

This isn’t so much a foul-up/mistake as a baldfaced lie.

Trent1289 on March 22, 2010 at 8:13 AM

Obamatuerism is a synonym for baldfaced lie.

thomasaur on March 22, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Me and my coworkers at the health insurance company will have to start looking for jobs. My company already said we’ll be operating at a loss for the next few years. That coupled with the new taxes and levies that this plan imposes on health insurers equals less jobs at the insurer. It’s okay though. I was sick of being in health care….

mjk on March 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM

Yeah, you know, we can’t be mean to old Barry.
It’s funny, isn’t it? Not being mean to Barry has resulted in socialism in 14 months. And far worse in the coming months. We’ll be likely not to be turning to Mecca by the time 2012 gets here.

ORconservative on March 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Me and my coworkers at the health insurance company will have to start looking for jobs. My company already said we’ll be operating at a loss for the next few years. That coupled with the new taxes and levies that this plan imposes on health insurers equals less jobs at the insurer. It’s okay though. I was sick of being in health care….

mjk on March 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM

“This is what change looks like.” President Obama

“We have failed to listen to the American people”. Minority Leader Boehner

forest on March 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM

You mean nobody in the media looked this up and published it during the campaign? How about opposition research by the highly competent McCain campaign?

forest on March 22, 2010 at 8:52 AM

I’m thinking the media dropped the ball on this guy multiple times. McCain was no slouch in being lazy in his campaign, but most of the finger points clearly at the media.

mjk on March 22, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Where does this leave the Cornhusker Kickback? Is it still in the bill?

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2010 at 9:02 AM

If this is true, then it does take the sting out of the accusation that he voted “present” more often than not. In fact, I would think that it would put him on average.

That said, I think he’s lying.

Think I’ll do a little Internet digging.

Rod on March 22, 2010 at 8:40 AM

The important fact here is to see if he voted “present” more times than anyone in the history of the IL senate.

I believe one such vote was in reference to saving or killing and discarding fetuses that had survived partial-birth abortion.

ROCnPhilly on March 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM

If we had elected McCain, something very similiar would have been passed last year.

Disagree, McCain had enough sense to be more fiscally responsible than this, once the economy tanked.

It’s all spilt milk under the bridge at this point though, there was no way McCain was going to get elected in 2008 anyway.

NoDonkey on March 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Disagree, McCain had enough sense to be more fiscally responsible than this, once the economy tanked.

It’s all spilt milk under the bridge at this point though, there was no way McCain was going to get elected in 2008 anyway.

NoDonkey on March 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM

What you said. McCain wouldn’t have passed a take over of our health care, he just wouldn’t have. Now if Hill would have won, we would have had HCR 10 months ago.

deidre on March 22, 2010 at 9:10 AM

If we had elected McCain, something very similiar would have been passed last year. Cap and trade would be law by now as well.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM

I disagree. This bill proves there is a difference between the GOP and the rats. If McCain had been elected, we probably would not have had healthcare reform, certainly not the atrocity that was passed in the dark of night and on a party line basis.

highhopes on March 22, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Where does this leave the Cornhusker Kickback? Is it still in the bill?

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2010 at 9:02 AM

You’ve got to understand that the Senate Bill was passed word-for-word and sent to the filthy lying dictator in the White House. It still contains all the objectionable stuff- some of which will supposedly be worked out during reconciliation fixes. There isn’t going to be any serious attempt at fixing anything, it is all for show to give some political cover to the traitors who need to hide behind the idea that the objectionable parts of the Senate bill are being fixed after-the-fact.

highhopes on March 22, 2010 at 9:15 AM

The nation’s in the very best of hands: Smoker President Signs Government-Run Health Care Bill to be Administered by Tax Cheat and Former Top Trial Lawyer Lobbyist http://optoons.blogspot.com/2010/03/smoker-president-signs-government-run.html

Mervis Winter on March 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM

@Wethal
Graham was threatening to walk away if Obamacare passed. Let’s see if he does it. McCain is lying low on amnesty, since he’s up for re-election and must fake out he’s a conservative in a border state (bordering the failed narco state Mexico.)

Correct me if i am wrong but Lindsey Graham warned that IF reconciliation was used in the Senate to pass the House “fix”,THEN immigration reform would be tough.

From what i understand, the House voted on two bills yesterday – the Senate Bill and the House “fix” bill. If the “fix” bill cannot be passed with mere 51 Senate votes, (I heard that the Republicans have confirmed this with the Parlimentarian) then the original Senate bill passed on christmas eve becomes law. WITHOUT any reconciliation.

So there you go – Lindsey Graham has the loophole he needs to ..ahem.. reform immigration.

Please correct me if i am wrong about my interpretation of what has happened – its confusing to say the least.

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM

highhopes on March 22, 2010 at 9:15 AM

I have a wicked hangover this morning and coffee isn’t helping..

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Where does this leave the Cornhusker Kickback? Is it still in the bill?

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Until the Senate passes reconciliation, yes.

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM

I disagree. This bill proves there is a difference between the GOP and the rats. If McCain had been elected, we probably would not have had healthcare reform, certainly not the atrocity that was passed in the dark of night and on a party line basis.

highhopes on March 22, 2010 at 9:10 AM

McCain campaigned on health care reform.
Whatever bill he actually proposed would still have gone through Pelosi’s House and Reid’s Senate, with their large majorities of Democrats.

Regardless of what was originally proposed, the final bill would have been very similar to what we got. And we would have had a Republican president leaning on Republican’s to vote for it, “to save his presidency”.

MarkTheGreat on March 22, 2010 at 9:21 AM

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Given that the likes of Orrin Hatch are threatening all out war, I’d think Graham would back off if his caucus told him to. And opposing Dem policies is going to be the GOP theme in the fall. I wonder if McCain might want him to back off too, so McCain doesn’t have to take a hard vote.

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 9:22 AM

@Wethal,
You may want to read highopes post and comment on it – from what i understand the original Senate Bill with all the filthy kickbacks was voted by the House. A second “fix” bill is also supposed to be have been voted on which removed these kickback provisions

But that “fix” bill is nothing more than a fricking sham – Dim Senators will put some lipstick on the pig and pass it through reconciliation. at best they might remove the louisiana purchase and the cornhusker kickback – but the damage has been done.

nagee76 on March 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM

They still have to pay for this monster. All our taxes will go up to do that which means businesses can’t grow. Revenues will go down so taxes will go up even more. Less and less of our money will be our money. This law will be a death panel for our country.

Kissmygrits on March 22, 2010 at 9:28 AM

My Deomcratic Governor is steamed this passed. Yes I said Democratic! Tennessee only staid in the black this year becuase of the porkulus bill and now that that money is gone we are looking at massive budget cuts next fiscal year, and he estimates this will cost the state 1.5 Billion dollars in the next few years. What did Phil Breedesen do before he went into politics?? He founded a health insurance Company, so I’d say he knows a thing or two about the business. I’m calling my attorney general and making sure Tennessee is joining other states to fight this travesty of a bill.

Mini-14 on March 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM

He got elected to the US Senate by having the Chicago Tribune petition a local liberal judge to open up the opponent’s sealed divorce records so the sex stuff the couple had wanted to keep private was made public.

Wethal on March 22, 2010 at 8:37 AM

Exactamundo, and by some amazing coincidence David Axelrod had worked for the Chicago Tribune.

Buy Danish on March 22, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Quiet Parties

AARP, AMA…and I’m going stop before I go through the alphabet, are very happy!

The recipients of this gravy are gonna love it like all our fellow citizens who are burning oil or overspending on imports (take your Tundra to WalMart tonight) and the rest of the economy will suffer.

Now we start the scramble for everyone to get theirs, but the taxpayers are the only ones sure to get it.

The Dmes are betting that the public will forget the corruption and favortism as they enjoy the freebie. And the media is poised to help make it all look good.

IlikedAUH2O on March 22, 2010 at 9:57 AM

The recipients of this gravy are gonna love it like all our fellow citizens who are burning oil or overspending on imports (take your Tundra to WalMart tonight) and the rest of the economy will suffer.

HC stocks are just fine today. That’s the real “taint” of this, and it’s all on Dems.

Rather ironic.

AnninCA on March 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM

P. S. I was betting that The One would have little to do with the passage of this outrage.

But he made Stupak look good. Never confuse a stupid, superstitious religious nut with a conservative. Esp. When they are choosing between reality and their beliefs.

This goes for all the Latino voters who you think are conservative. Only the old ladies go to church on Sunday and they are not the people who ran over our border!

IlikedAUH2O on March 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM

HC stocks are just fine today.

And they’ll be fine until 2014, when this monstrosity clamps its boot on the neck of private insurance, pharma, and med technology.

The big investors in the those stocks will make as much profit as they can, while they can, until those companies cease to exist. Meanwhile, the small investor will be selling off as much as s/he can to pay the increased taxes that will subsidize goobermint-run healthcare in the years before it takes effect.

These next few years will be the happy time, the giddy time, for dumb Americans in la-la land. “Hey, look, this passed, and I still have a job, and, and… it’s not so bad, and I’ll get me some free health care.”

Wait. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

Nichevo on March 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Would you buy a used car from this man?

jukin on March 22, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Just words!!!

He feels nothing for anyone, but himself. This was, is, and always will be about HIM, and what HE wants! Be d@mned everything else.

capejasmine on March 22, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Nichevo on March 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Did you watch Fox news this morning? 2 entities that Obama villified, and tried to make the enemy are going to benefit the most from this bill. Pharma’s and Insurance companies.

capejasmine on March 22, 2010 at 11:17 AM

You know they say when you hit rock bottom, you can only go up….somebody let Nancy and the President know, they have hit rock bottom.

Dr Evil on March 22, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Now, the question will be what happens in the Senate.

AnninCA on March 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Nothing at all. This is it. Embrace nationalization of the insurance companies and a national sales tax.

Congratulations America. You asked for it, you got it!

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Blaming Bush and providence is futile. Blame only one contingent, the dummies, all of them, who voted for this bunch who will destroy us.

I pray for the demise of all moochers and their overlords.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Should have specified that those in the middle and on the right who voted for these thugs, are also on the hate list.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM

He is the brave Obama, Obama:

When political courage is needed, he
Responds with political expediency;

When a Senators should take a stand,
He bravely avoided raising his hands

He is the brave Obama, Obama…

RegularJoe on March 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Mr. Joe on March 22, 2010 at 8:06 AM

Oh please.
Nothing during the Bush years was rammed through WITHOUT LARGE Bi-partisan support.

The Bush Tax cut and authorization to use force in Iraq passed when the Dems were in charge of the Senate!

“Good policy is good government”
Obama

You don’t need to “bribe” people to vote for “Good policy”
You don’t need a “super majority” to pass “Good policy”
You don’t need to “bribe” your “super majority” to pass “Good policy”

This policy is a lot of things; “good government” isn’t one of them.

DSchoen on March 22, 2010 at 2:43 PM

Disagree, McCain had enough sense to be more fiscally responsible than this, once the economy tanked.

It’s all spilt milk under the bridge at this point though, there was no way McCain was going to get elected in 2008 anyway.

NoDonkey on March 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM

What you said. McCain wouldn’t have passed a take over of our health care, he just wouldn’t have. Now if Hill would have won, we would have had HCR 10 months ago.

deidre on March 22, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Of course McCain wouldn’t have passed it. The real question is, how successfully would McCain have fought it. Pelosi was the prime mover behind this thing.

tom on March 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM

But he made Stupak look good. Never confuse a stupid, superstitious religious nut with a conservative. Esp. When they are choosing between reality and their beliefs.

IlikedAUH2O on March 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM

You could take the measure of Stupak by the fact that he ran as a Democrat. If he really wanted to protect life, why would he vote for Pelosi as the Speaker? Why would he join the party of death?

Calling him a “stupid, superstitious religious nut” makes no sense. Unless your point is that it’s nutty to claim to be religious and to be against abortion while enabling the abortion party.

tom on March 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM

A lot of stupid, superstitious nuts are embraced by the right as they gravitate to the traditional side of issues. A number of them are prisoners of their districts. They are not conservatives or reliable allies.

I admire those who have true religious convictions and live and sacrifice for their beliefs. This doesn’t apply to most elected officials.

It is the late Teddy and the millions of Catholics who voted for the gang that is running our country that make me sick. Good thing that have Confession!

Wanna fight me about abortion?

Spend (waste) your energy on them.

IlikedAUH2O on March 22, 2010 at 4:18 PM

The States will tie this up in the courts for sometime, their rights have been circumvented by this Bill. We need to concentrate on Amnesty, the left needs to pass this, they know they screwed the pooch on healthcare. They need yet another huge minority voting block to secure victory in November. How will they do it? The way they always do, FREE SHIT! Yes we pay for it, but they get to spend our money, then take credit for the gift.
They have gone the FREE SHIT route for decades now, why would you think illegals would be any different? It’s coming, be prepared. Obama will pull money out of his “stash” for these people, just be ready to foot the bill.

M-14 2go on March 22, 2010 at 8:36 PM