Limbaugh: We’ll remember in November

posted at 6:03 pm on March 22, 2010 by Allahpundit

By popular request, via the Right Scoop, a shot of espresso for your post-ObamaCare hangover from the man whom David Frum blames for having almost singlehandedly brought about a conservative Waterloo. Supposedly, in a Rushless universe (or a universe without conservative media, at least), the GOP would have been free to compromise with Obama on a smaller O-Care bill, thus sparing us from the entitlement colossus that now bestrides America.

What would that compromise have looked like? I … simply don’t know, and neither does Peter Suderman.

Frum doesn’t spell out exactly what deal he thinks Republicans should’ve cut, but the ground that he’s implicitly suggesting should’ve been given up was basically the whole enchilada: the insurance mandate, the subsidies, the government run and regulated marketplaces, the expansion of Medicaid. These are rotten policies that, in just a few years, have already had rotten outcomes. What would have been gained by ObamaCare opponents caving and supporting something along these lines?

The best precedent for a Frum-style strategy of selling out compromise is probably Medicare Part D. That bill picked up support from genuine fiscal conservatives like Rep. Paul Ryan because the understanding was that, if this version doesn’t pass, something bigger and worse will. As a political calculation, this makes sense. But the end result wasn’t one to be proud of: We still ended up with a poorly designed, unsustainable, potentially disastrous policy. If ObamaCare opponents had compromised, that’s all they would have succeeded in passing here. Fine, you might say, but that’s what we got anyway! Fair enough. But unlike the current situation, they would have been responsible for those outcomes, would have given liberals political cover, and ultimately put themselves in a far weaker position to push for reforms.

Quite so. The mystery to me is why Frum thinks Obama would have compromised at all. He has a base too, you know, and with reconciliation on the table and Pelosi vowing that she could get to 216 even in a post-Scott Brown America, the left would have been very curious to know why The One was stooping to make a deal with the Rethuglikkkans when they could simply ram through a big fat bill of their own. That was the whole point of having a filibuster-proof majority — to do as they pleased, with no need to water down their legislation to woo a conservative base that wouldn’t be wooed anyway. (Many liberals still make that argument vis-a-vis the public option being dropped from the final bill.) All of which assumes that The One would have wanted to make a deal even if his base had let him; as DrewM says, “Ideologues like Obama don’t compromise when they don’t have to. Obama didn’t have to.” Indeed.

As for the politics of this, Democrats have insisted ad nauseam that O-Care is a winner in November. Many of them, strange as it may seem, appear to really believe it, in which case why would they want to share the benefits with the GOP? Better to freeze out the Republicans and keep all those yummy turnout-inspiring goodies for themselves. Why, the bill’s going to save hundreds of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars, right? Well, who wouldn’t want to own that? And now they do own it. Forever.

If you’re looking for a critique of Republicans on the day after, stick with Ed and Philip Klein instead. The question to ask isn’t why the GOP refused to compromise with Obama; it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.


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Purge Day!

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM

The Enemy is NOT the Liberals in Congress… It’s the Liberals in the Media who control the flow of information to the AVERAGE American. They must be target #1.

brewcrew67 on March 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

What we are facing:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/10/rotten-to-the-americorps/

rickyricardo on March 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM

If you’re not volunteering to the constitutional candidate of your choice at least weekly, you’re pro-Obama.

beatcanvas on March 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM

it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

Because there was not Tea Party movement when we had power. We, as a whole, where too complacent. Not next time though.

WashJeff on March 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM

We need to have a plan.. The boyz at hillbuzz.org are suggesting we go after Dem donors, start a calling/mailing/emailing campaign.. Try to get them from donating to donors..

http://www.hillbuzz.org

reshas1 on March 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Frum is the consumate collaborator.

We can do without the advice of this numbnut.

Destroy all Dems this Fall…no no escapes.

DrW on March 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Purge is just a wonderful term. I like it, Canopfor.

mobydutch on March 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

He’s right.A few of them will not be enough.It needs to be a total wash.

ohiobabe on March 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Gotta love this:

jaketapper President Obama to Axelrod: Last Night’s Victory Meant More to Me Than Winning the Election > http://bit.ly/b6Anjv

deidre on March 22, 2010 at 6:10 PM

If they really think it’s a winner, the forthcoming Democrat campaign ads are going to be either really funny or really nauseating. Most likely both.

johnmackeygreene on March 22, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Sen Jim DeMint “I will introduce legislation this week to repeal this health care takeover,…”

Demint is not alone. Marco Rubio and Rep Steve King also support such legislation.

Nelsa on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Buck up… we’re going to have to keep this anger alive and the public angry for 6 months.

And then we’ll have to keep the fires lit under the GOP to repeal it too.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I’m hoping that the repeal of this POS is followed by privatization of SS, and rolling back of medicare. That will take longer than November, but I’m patient.

Vashta.Nerada on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Kinda hard to compromise, when everything was done behind closed doors, and when the GOP made attempts, that door was slammed in their faces, and locked!

And when they did try a compromise, at a summit, they were allowed to speak, but it fell on deaf ears anyway. So Mr.Frum..tell us. How do you compromise with those kinds of barriers? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

capejasmine on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

“And now they do own it. Forever.”

Let the liquidation commence…

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SheetAnchor on March 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

As for the politics of this, Democrats have insisted ad nauseam that O-Care is a winner in November. Many of them, strange as it may seem, appear to really believe it, in which case why would they want to share the benefits with the GOP? Better to freeze out the Republicans and keep all those yummy turnout-inspiring goodies for themselves. The bill’s going to save hundreds of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars, right? Well, who wouldn’t want to own that? And now they do own it. Forever.

Yeah, the HA lefty trolls are proud…very proud this pile of crap…and psychotic!

No comment on Frum…more of the same embarrassing trip from him.

Anyway, terrific post.

AUINSC on March 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Slow them down, tie them up in court and bring things to a stop is the way to survive till November, then fire the fools.

JIMV on March 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

David Frum is a mindless jackass…

d1carter on March 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

If you’re looking for a critique of Republicans on the day after…

Nope. The ONLY thing I am going to spend every waking hour on, beside Church and work , is to seek out and politically destroy every single democrat that’s up for reelection. I’ve already told the little lady to get ready to send at least 50 dollars to EVERY GOP candidate who is running against a dem. I will not fire a shot at one of our own unless he or she stands in the way of our electoral victory in Nov. The left in the media have NO clue how focused we are. We were pissed last year. This year…you’ve seen NOTHING yet, you Socialists!

Weight of Glory on March 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM

The stunt JudPak did,was akin,in a way,what the Marxist
Socialist Media does on an election night,where as,there
is still time to vote,but then,they call it early,dis-
spiriting the voters,when more voting could of made a
difference!!

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Where is Terryann… I want her to read Frum and then tell me that jerk didn’t vote for Obama. HA!

upinak on March 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Why, the bill’s going to save hundreds of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars, right? Well, who wouldn’t want to own that? And now they do own it. Forever.

May they be poisoned by their own ‘pill’, one by one.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Buck up… we’re going to have to keep this anger alive and the public angry for 6 months.

And then we’ll have to keep the fires lit under the GOP to repeal it too.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Dern right!

Weight of Glory on March 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

If yesterday travesty is any indication our Politburo may attempt to subvert the election process in November.

Such is the reason the Second Amendment has faced recent state-media attacks while the populace has chosen to equip to defend itself as that amendment still permits. I remain thankful our Founders chose to have our military beholden first and foremost to the Constitution. That is our nation’s safety valve against tyranny and we may need it.

viking01 on March 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

IF the GOP wants to win in November then get rid of those clueless idiots in the RNC.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele is predicting a GOP “renaissance” this election year as he travels the country speaking at Lincoln and Reagan Day dinners.

On bipartisanship:

“This notion of bipartisanship is really kind of a myth. In Washington it really boils down to a zero sum game. If you win, I lose. I think the more appropriate approach … is let’s build toward consensus. Here are the four, five or six things we can do right now that we can get a 90 percent vote on. Let’s do that because we know that both the right and the left, Democrats and Republicans, are going to have to make a sacrifice to reach this consensus.

William Amos on March 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM

David Frum is a mindless jackass…

d1carter on March 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Indeed, and an annoying gnat.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Ah, now let us hope he signs off everyday with: Remember what the House did in March over the will of the people.

Daily reminders, and twice on Friday.

ajacksonian on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

“B*sterds”!!!!

Boy,Rush is p*ssed!!

A new Political Paradigm me thinks!!!

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Wow. David Frum loses AllahPundit, who drives probably 90% of his traffic.

DaydreamBeliever on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

The question to ask isn’t why the GOP refused to compromise with Obama; it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

The democrats would have fought any attempt by the Republicans to actually reform the healthcare system. For the GOP to have reformed healthcare they would have had to use the same underhanded tacticts that the democrats have to pass ObamaScare. Those tactics shouldn’t be used by either party. Just look at social security reform.

farright on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Shouldn’t he be in Costa Rica or something?

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

We must defeat the Progressive media and their progressive politicians.

d1carter on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Frum is irrelevant. It’s hard to be the smartest man in the room when everyone is rolling their eyes at you. Time to move on from Frum.

Rush is right.

Spirit of 1776 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Michael Steele is a weak link.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Shouldn’t he be in Costa Rica or something?

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

So have you figured out yet how the Federal Government can take over the control of the health insurance companies using the interstate commerce clause when it’s ILLEGAL to purchase health insurance across state borders?

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

The question to ask isn’t why the GOP refused to compromise with Obama; it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

because the Democrats wouldn’t allow it if they did, see attempt to Privatize Soc. Security. Heck, the GOP congress wouldn’t even debate it, it was DOA

Plus factor in TIME, the fact Bush had to prioritize and the early part of his presidency got booked up quickly and understandably. What would the Dems in Congress done to his CinC responsibilities had he pissed them off by going after Health Care?

the problem is not Republicans or the political Right, it is the forces at work on the Political Left, the fact they control the MSM, Hollywood/Culture and Academia

jp on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Michael Steele is Has always been a weak link.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM

ftfy

upinak on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

I don’t get it. How could GOP do anything when Tides Foundation and such were drafting the bill
and
everything in the capitol took place behind closed doors
and
every ammendment/proposals they made were voted down .

macncheez on March 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

I agree with d1carter.The “progressives” can be defeated this year, the media not so. I know, conservative radio and blogs are doing a great job getting the message out, but unfortunately too many people are still getting their news from the MSM. Gotta do something about them.

sandee on March 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Shouldn’t he be in Costa Rica or something?

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Shouldn’t you be licking your @$$ or something?

thomasaur on March 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Shouldn’t he be in Costa Rica or something?

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Aren’t you thinking of Charlie Rangle?

AUINSC on March 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

High valued al qaeida member ordered to be released by a fed court judge.

JVelez on March 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM

The mystery to me is why Frum thinks Obama would have compromised at all

Do I really have to answer that “mystery”?

russcote on March 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Socialist United States Constitution haters are so cute reciting their talking points from the Huffington post… aren’t they?

What did Axelrod tell you to say tomorrow? Can you give us a sneak peek?

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

The Left has nothing of true substance in its collective argument. They are so confident of victory in November, no matter how they buy that, that they aren’t willing to take a wait-and-see attitude.

Except even parts of the MSM are writing that many Dems lost their political careers over this.

Wait and see! A sea change is coming at the ballot box.

Liam on March 22, 2010 at 6:22 PM

capitalist piglet on March 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

***Face Palm***

Ticking off the People, one moron at a time.

upinak on March 22, 2010 at 6:22 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

IS there a charity event?

daesleeper on March 22, 2010 at 6:22 PM

What did Axelrod tell you to say tomorrow? Can you give us a sneak peek?

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Yeah, copy and paste revolutionaries.

AUINSC on March 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM

David Frum is obtuse. oba-mao represents absence of compromise. The whole point of obama is that liberals did not want a compromise – if they wanted compromise they would have run Hilary. They knew that with him they would ram through their pet projects with complete disregard for little things, like “future” or “constitutionality”.

runner on March 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

When 200 million other americans go there because they can get better treatment there than in America from Obamafailurecare,

William Amos on March 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Wanting Obama to fail makes a lot of sense now, doesn’t it?

Mr. Joe on March 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Was there a big line at the Congress personnel office of members canceling their congressional health care plan and signing up for Obama care?

Dingbat63 on March 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM

So have you figured out yet how the Federal Government can take over the control of the health insurance companies using the interstate commerce clause when it’s ILLEGAL to purchase health insurance across state borders?

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Well first of all the federal government isn’t taking over the control of health insurance companies, so you have a little credibility problem right off the bat. Secondly, activity may be reached by Congress through the Commerce clause if it has a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce. The activity itself doesn’t have to be “interstate” in nature. If you had read Commerce clause case law you’d know that.

That’s your free lesson for the day….although I’m sure you’ll ask for another.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

what ?

runner on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Ink not even out of the pen:

Leader of Progressive Caucus: We’re Introducing New Legislation to add “Robust Public Option” to National Healthcare Exchange Created by ObamaCare.

capitalist piglet on March 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Do it… the fight will go right up to the November elections and be just what we need.

I also think this should dissolve any remaining allusions that this isn’t a full on socialist takeover.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

daesleeper on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

saw a commentary by brit hume and was saying the people are po’d at the debt being racked up by gov’t. The big question is…are the american people ready to accept cuts BIG cuts in the entitlement segment, Republicans will be raked over the coals, but I say who gives a rats a** what the media says, you will never get any praise from them anyways

TheVer on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

What the democrat socialists always forget is the spirit of Americans. I will be interested to see how we adapt to this, and what new ways we come up with to get around this. After the democrat socialists cut off all oil drilling off-shore, perhaps some rich folks can open private hospitals on the platforms.

SouthernGent on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

As Rush said today…you have a D after your name…you are a target, period. That should be the singular focus…there are enough Americans now that finally understand the danger of the D’s.

winston on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

The Enemy is NOT the Liberals in Congress… It’s the Liberals in the Media who control the flow of information to the AVERAGE American. They must be target #1.

brewcrew67 on March 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

I have for some time been utterly flummoxed to explain how approximately 40% (depending upon poll) of those polled supported the socialization of America.

By a freak occurrence, I ended up watching a local NBC affiliate (KSBW) and their lead story covered the “Anti – Health Care Reformers protesting in DC.

This is the first time I’ve watched local coverage of the ObamaCare debate and was oblivious to the propaganda the affiliated Obamabots were spewing. Marching orders I suspect.

Having said all of that – yes ……… you’ve hit the nail on the head.

oldfiveanddimer on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

what ?

runner on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

The lefty trolls are showing from after getting their talking points at HuffPo…2 of them just posted the exact same thing.

AUINSC on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Well first of all the federal government isn’t taking over the control of health insurance companies, so you have a little credibility problem right off the bat. Secondly, activity may be reached by Congress through the Commerce clause if it has a substantial economic effect on interstate commerce. The activity itself doesn’t have to be “interstate” in nature. If you had read Commerce clause case law you’d know that.

That’s your free lesson for the day….although I’m sure you’ll ask for another.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

oh you’re such a cute socialist twit…
Joe Biden – “We will control the insurance companies”

Did Joe Biden lie? I don’t think so…

And second, health care insurance is strictly regulated BY STATE. There’s no interstate commerce at all because it’s illegal. No states trade insurance rates. So there’s no “interstate” value. If you read the commerce clause of the constitution I’m sure you’d understand that.

Now try again.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Shouldn’t he be in Costa Rica or something?

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

crr6: Thanks to Obama,Doctors will be making the great
Exodus to PR to escape Hopeys Tyranny!!

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

saw a commentary by brit hume and was saying the people are po’d at the debt being racked up by gov’t. The big question is…are the american people ready to accept cuts BIG cuts in the entitlement segment, Republicans will be raked over the coals, but I say who gives a rats a** what the media says, you will never get any praise from them anyways

TheVer on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

NJ seems to be OK with all of Gov. Christie’s cuts. I think most Americans understand.

deidre on March 22, 2010 at 6:27 PM

That’s your free lesson for the day….although I’m sure you’ll ask for another.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Nah, if we want to hear it we’ll just go over to HuffPo or DKos and read what you pasted here directly.

AUINSC on March 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

For a self-proclaimed law student, you offer so little of substantive debate. Why is that?

I suspect you go to a school that offers Law as a curriculum but you’re not enrolled in the program, are you?

Who do you think you’re fooling? I defeated a lawyer in a pro se action. The toughest 90 minutes of my life, but I learned a lot. I didn’t get everything about which I sued, but I have to say the judge’s ruling was fair.

My best moment was my closing, when I used that lawyer’s own base argument against him. If looks could kill…

No, you’re no lawyer, because you have to make a genuine argument based on LAW.

You’re as phony as a nine-peso wooden coin.

Who do you think you’re fooling?

Liam on March 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

daesleeper on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

She’s a socialist, what do you expect. Words don’t mean things, facts don’t meant things. The only thing that means anything is the furtherment of the socialist state… whatever they’re told that means today.

Chocolate Rations are up today… right crr6?

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

When is Rush going to Costa Rica?

Magnus on March 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I though he said he’d go there for health care. Is he sick??

BigWyo on March 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

And second, health care insurance is strictly regulated BY STATE. There’s no interstate commerce at all because it’s illegal. No states trade insurance rates. So there’s no “interstate” value. If you read the commerce clause of the constitution I’m sure you’d understand that.

Now try again.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

uhhhh yeah. You pretty much repeated the same thing over again without responding to my post. Again, it doesn’t matter if states don’t “trade insurance rates” (wtf is that anyway?), as long as health insurance activity within the state has a substantial effect on interstate commerce. I’m really not going to hold your hand with this one, read up yourself.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Over riding Obama’s veto will take 2/3rd’s of both Houses. So not too hopeful of repealing this turd in the short term and the longer it ferments the harder it will be to remove this stain on Democracy.

And now we have Grahmnesty collaborating with the Dems on Gimmigrant legalization. Think that’s not going to be brought up before November? Can you say wedge issue? Right between the GOP’s buttocks!

chickasaw42 on March 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

perhaps some rich folks can open private hospitals on the platforms.

SouthernGent on March 22, 2010 at 6:25 PM

SouthernGent:Sounds logical to me,thats not crazy talk!!:)

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

You mean instead they drained the treasury by invading Iraq? Well, I suppose there is a lesson in here as to the priorities of the GOP. (Of course, how different would “health reform” really be if Gingrich, Frum, and other Bush lackeys had their fingerprints all over it).

The Dean on March 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

value. If you read the commerce clause of the constitution I’m sure you’d understand that.

Now try again.

Skywise on March 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Also add that insurance is not considered commerce in that commerce must have an exchange or trade of good/service. There is no guarantee that an exchange will take place if you never use your policy.
This has been argued in many courts.

Electrongod on March 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

I’ve never heard him sound like he did today.

Key West Reader on March 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Time to stop calling it socialism and to start calling it communism.

Socialism is merely the veneer to sneak the Trojan Horse inside the gate.

viking01 on March 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Rand Paul money bomb tonight at midnight.

Spathi on March 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

I’ll keep comin to ya on an airwave road
I’ll be knockin’ that odious twit Obama with a red white and blue maximum load
And when I take him apart you’ll really see something
So dont worry cause I’m Rush and I am coming

Im Rush man
Im Rush man
Listen up America!
Im Rush man
Im Rush man

I got what I got the capitalist way
And I’ll take it to that phony Messiah in each and every way
So American dont you fret
Cause you’ve hardly even seen me taking that double talkin’ Indonesian Imbecile apart yet

Im Rush man
Im Rush man
Play it Snerdley baby!
Im Rush man
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Listen
I’m all wrapped up in the things America needs
I learned how to be an American almost before I could eat
I come from American heartland stock
When I kick Obama’s petulant arse things will really rock

Im Rush man
Im Rush man
Take that you power grabbing elitist Marxist nut!
Im Rush man
Im Rush man

I’ll grab your minds and I’ll pull you in
Give you and God’s furry creatures hope and be their and Americas best friend
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Im Rush man
Im Rush man
Youre a Rush man!
Im Rush man
Im Rush man

MB4 on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Also add that insurance is not considered commerce in that commerce must have an exchange or trade of good/service. There is no guarantee that an exchange will take place if you never use your policy.
This has been argued in many courts.

Electrongod on March 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM

What do you mean “if you never use your policy”? If you don’t get sick? You’re still paying premiums, and that’s an exchange.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

`Repeal the Deal`
=================

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

The question to ask isn’t why the GOP refused to compromise with Obama; it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

For one that they weren’t asked to compromise they were expected to capitulate. I for one am glad they didn’t.

Conservatives have proposed over the years (30 or more) lots of reforms for Medicare and SS and got their ass handed to them in the next general election. When they did try to play Democrat (Medicare under GWB) there base deserted them(maybe not a bad thing).

whbates on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

State by State, the law suits are going to fly.
As far as keeping the anger up through November..
Are any of you really thinking you’re not going to be this pissed off come November? Next up will be amnesty and that deal will go down dirtier than this deal. Cap and Tax in the pipeline…

The citizens of my state are already going after our AG and demanding that he file suit along with the other states when Obama signs this dog tomorrow.

This is a war, and the anger will not be going anywhere anytime soon.

Keemo on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

The question to ask isn’t why the GOP refused to compromise with Obama; it’s why the GOP didn’t fill this legislative void when it had the chance.

9/11 and Iraq consumed a lot of the oxygen but we should have proposed free-market reforms, and encouraged States to enact their own programs, instead of pushing immigration reform.

Buy Danish on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

The Enemy is NOT the Liberals in Congress… It’s the Liberals in the Media who control the flow of information to the AVERAGE American. They must be target #1.

brewcrew67 on March 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

If our country survives O’bama, objective historians (I know, good luck with that) will compare the behavior of the national media in the 25 years between 1991 and 2016 with that of the European media in the 25 years that led to Hitler and Stalin’s totalitarianism early in the 20th century.

At the beginning of that time period, the “objective media” absolutely refused to report the economic recovery that began in March of 1991. They did this so they could remove the man who was responsible for that recovery from power, because he belonged to the wrong political party.

In 1998, that same media refused to report that the same Democrat President they elected was engaged in highly unethical, and then criminal, behavior.

In 2000, the same media called a Presidential election in Florida for the Democrat-before the polls had even closed. Later when his opponent was deemed to have won that Florida election, they refused to accept the vote results and all rushed to the state to recount the ballots themselves.

In 2004, this same media sued President Bush to compel him to release his military records, then happily ignored it when his Democrat “opponent” refused to do so himself.

Later in 2004, the Chief Anchor and Managing Editor at one of the major television networks attempted to throw the election to the Democrat candidate, by airing a false story based on forged documents.

And then we got to 2008…

Dr. Goebbels is looking up and smiling approvingly at all of them.

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM

NJ seems to be OK with all of Gov. Christie’s cuts. I think most Americans understand.

deidre on March 22, 2010 at 6:27 PM

One can only pray that is true, as the Dems are banking on Republicans not daring to touch the infamous 3rd rails that seem to be everywhere now.

TheVer on March 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM

I’m hoping that the repeal of this POS is followed by privatization of SS, and rolling back of medicare. That will take longer than November, but I’m patient.

Vashta.Nerada on March 22, 2010 at 6:11 PM

That should be the goal, at the least.

exception on March 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM

I’ve never heard him sound like he did today.

Key West Reader on March 22, 2010 at 6:30

Key West Reader: A New Dawn!!

canopfor on March 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM

What do you mean “if you never use your policy”? If you don’t get sick? You’re still paying premiums, and that’s an exchange.

crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM

It is an exchange for a contract that if/when you need it, the funds are available. But if you don’t use it, there is no exchange of services.

Electrongod on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Frum, and his ilk (you know who you are), want to be the “reasonable conservative” voice for the media.

faraway on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Well first of all the federal government isn’t taking over the control of health insurance companies
crr6 on March 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Huh. Someone should probably tell this to Biden.

Biden said his response to worried lawmakers is simple: “The proof of the pudding is in the eating.”

“I’m telling you, you know, pre-existing [conditions], they’re going to be covered. You know we’re going to control the insurance companies,” the vice president said

Or, could it be that while you think you know anything, you aren’t even on the same page as the vice president nor his argument to the democrats to support the bill? Yeah, it’s probably that you have no clue. But you go right ahead and keep offering “free” lessons. Heaven knows no one would pay for it.

Weight of Glory on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

If I’m paying for crr6′s welfare check that is hardly an exchange. Same for his O-Commie-Care. That is a handout. Nothing more. Nothing less.

viking01 on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Its not only the federal swamp that needs draining, most states have there own fetid water beginning to pool, I hear drums in the distance

TheVer on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Geez AP, this has been the wet dream of the Progressives for what, 70-80 years now… Why did it take so long for this to happen; think it might have something to do with the opposition, I.E. Republicans… The electorate just gave the entire chain of power to the most Liberal Progressive bunch of bastards in our history. Lots of blame to go around.

Keemo on March 22, 2010 at 6:34 PM

The Enemy is NOT the Liberals in Congress… It’s the Liberals in the Media who control the flow of information to the AVERAGE American. They must be target #1.

brewcrew67 on March 22, 2010 at 6:06 PM

What are you going to do about it then?

Crux Australis on March 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Where is Terryann… I want her to read Frum and then tell me that jerk didn’t vote for Obama. HA!

upinak on March 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

On the phone with Anninacan?

katy the mean old lady on March 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM

I was surprised to find this story on the Obama-cheerleading wcbstv website. Apparently, the tri-state area is set to foot 20% of the HCR tax bill, despite containing only 10% of the population. I think the anger ball will start rolling sooner than we think:

http://wcbstv.com/national/health.care.tri.2.1581051.html

You can call it a tax, an assessment, a tariff or a duty, but no matter what word you use the cold hard fact is that the new health care bill will hit tri-state taxpayers in their pocket books. We’ll pay more than any other part of the county — over 20 percent of the entire tax burden is our burden.

The additional 32 million Americans who will be covered under the new health care bill — they should say thank you to us, the tri-state area taxpayers who are footing a disproportionate share of the bill.

“In the tri-state area we constitute 10 percent of the country’s population we’re going to be paying 20 percent of this new bill in taxes. That’s money going out of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut and going down to Washington,” said Steven Malanga of the Manhattan Institute.

Sharke on March 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM

You mean instead they drained the treasury by invading Iraq?

The Dean on March 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Funny stuff, considering that 99% of the Democrats said in 1998 that Iraq had WMDs and Saddam should be removed from power.

And remember, it was Bill Clinton’s Justice Department who said Iraq and al Qaeda were working together (long before Bush was even elected).

Do you wish Saddam Hussein was still in power? And his sons?

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM

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