Breaking: Stupak voting yes?; Update: Or is he? Update: CNN says Stupak told them he’s still a No; Update: ABC confirms still No … “for now”
posted at 1:04 pm on March 21, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
And thus does the Republican final hope for blocking ObamaCare finally collapse, if this turns out to be true. One can’t call this a defection by Bart Stupak, since he’s a Democrat now apparently committing to support for a key Democratic agenda item. It’s certainly a betrayal of his oft-proclaimed pro-life principles, however. So far, the news has been reported by MS-NBC on its broadcast and website (as a banner headline) as “sources say,” and reported similarly by C-SPAN, but as of this moment, no written report has surfaced with any details.
This could be a false report, but it’s been no secret for the last few days that Stupak has worked hard to find a way to vote for this bill. We’ll see if the promise of an executive order from Barack Obama did the trick.
Update, 1:16 pm ET: Suddenly, that banner has been removed from MS-NBC’s website without any explanation — and I still haven’t seen a written report anywhere about it. Hmmmm.
Update II: Politico reports that Stupak has flipped to yes, according to “senior Democratic aides.” Looks like the same sourcing that MS-NBC had.
Update III, 1:22 pm ET: CNN says he’s still a No, but that may be older information. Still looking for any substantive reporting based on something other than the MS-NBC sourcing.
Update IV, 1:25 pm ET: The Hill reports this as coming solely from MS-NBC:
House Democratic leaders are struggling to gain the 216 votes they need to win a healthcare vote on Sunday.
House Democratic leaders struggling to gain the 216 votes they need to win a healthcare vote earned two more crucial supporters on Sunday.
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) announced she’d support the bill, saying she was convinced it would prevent federal funds from being used for abortion services.
Separately, MSNBC reported that Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) would vote for the bill.
I suspect that Stupak will eventually find an excuse to vote for the bill, probably by accepting the promise of an EO in some form. But he may not yet have done so. We’ll keep an eye on it.
Update V: CNN reports that Stupak told them directly that he’s still a No.
Update VI: Major Garrett reports from Capitol Hill on Twitter:
Stupak spox 2 me on abortion/EO deal: “No…there is not yet a deal & he is still a NO vote right now.” Note: “right now”
Yes, be sure to note that well. Brian Baird (WA) is now reported to have committed to voting Yes, but he’s on the progressive wing of the party.
More to come ….









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Stupak is grandstanding in a way similar to his name. We call it Stupid. I am tired of seeing his big hair every day.
Yeah, Stupak is retarded with all the trimmings.
Yeah, and he is fake, too. Fake!!!!
Yes, it appears I have resorted to name-calling out of sheer frustration.
Go to hell, Stewpac!
Sigh . . . .
Sherman1864 on March 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM
They are just toying with us. More than anything, they enjoy torturing us.
I will never forgive them for all this.
Alana on March 21, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Notice the Dems are like children: “But the toy is so shiny. Can’t I have it, can’t I? All the other kids have one!”
Republicans: “It costs too much.”
D: “But, but…please, please…?”
R: “Where’s the money coming from?”
D: “Can’t you just put it on that plastic card?”
R: “It’s maxed out.”
D: “Maxed, schmaxed. Just get another one!”
Democrats are children. And not the brightest children.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Send Stupak into retirement. Support Stupak’s opponent Dan Benichek!!
Cicero43 on March 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM
DO NOT TRUST STUPAK SHAKUR !!!!
cableguy615 on March 21, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.
Executive order??? We’re living by imperial fiat now?? What the 4377 happened to this country? Break out the bananas people, it’s that kind of ‘republic’.
Fighton03 on March 21, 2010 at 9:13 PM
Feature request: Time stamps on updates, plx. :)
spmat on March 21, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Don’t let the Democrats drive us apart. United we will defeat them in November. Dividing us is the only way they stay in power.
Learn the Truth about Healthcare
dnlchisholm on March 21, 2010 at 9:24 PM
Abortion is just one of the things wrong with this horrid bill… in the end Stupak is a Democrat who doesn’t give a tinker’s dam about the Constitution… like all other Democrats.
His pro-life posturing is just cover… otherwise he’d never “negotiate” it away. Al Gore was pro-Life once too… until power came calling.
This is all just dithering over Stalin vs. Lenin.
mankai on March 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/mi01_stupak/morenews/20100319faagrant.html
poppieseeds on March 21, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Stupak – LIAR, FRAUD, CHEAT, SCUM
Mr. Grump on March 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM
Stupak speaks out against his own amendment on the floor, complete fraud!
Africanus on March 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM
There is some amazing analysis and encouragement at This is How Liberty Dies…to Thunderous Applause
If Democrats thought the healthcare issue was a fight, just wait for what the American People have in store for them next!
dnlchisholm on March 21, 2010 at 11:21 PM
STOOL-PACK!
RobCon on March 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Ed, Why is it that after many years of asking for these time stamps, you and AP still do not! I saw a glimmer of a few here today, but then you ceased again!
Is it a technical issue, is it philosophical? Help me to understand!
geckomon on March 21, 2010 at 11:33 PM
Why am I not surprised Stupak found a reason to vote Yes?
Meanwhile, IMHO the vote was not a close as reported in the final moments.
The Dem leadership knew it would be a re-election-challenging event and had to get play time for the
waveringthreatened pols in iffy districts to build up the requisite clips and interviews showing their great concern for (pick whatever plays in that district: abortion, Medicare etc) and to perform their heroic Hamlet act III scene I soliloquy leading to a decision to vote to save mankind, even if it cost them re election and left them with nothing except for a big fat Congressional pension for life with full benefitsIn a tight vote, everyone is the guilty party, so the great battle against the totally aribtary deadline had to be played out, as if coming in contact with a constituent on Good Friday would turn these DC pols into jello.
From what I see they had the votes from the beginning, but needed to stage some performance art.
The giveaway: the deadline for no reason whatsoever, and the rush to meet the phoney deadline
The big Q: why do this before the election? The only possible A: because they figured they would get hammered in the election since they have blown up the economy and created zero jobs. Right now they have a majority.
Recent bank closings had interesting numbers. FDIC could not find a buyer for Advanta, and it will cost the FDIC 635 million. Appalacian Cmmty Bank, 419 million… The numbers are gettig interesting. The FDIC will get it money from other banks regardless
My smartest friend told me to keep an eye on
HamletStupak. On the money as usualentagor on March 22, 2010 at 4:23 AM
Who do we blame for last night? Well George W. Bush, of course:
Mr. Joe on March 22, 2010 at 8:08 AM
Benishek has over 12,000 fans on Facebook this morning, and now has a paypal button set up to accept contributions. I would encourage all those who feel betrayed by Stupak to contribute something. I just gave $10. http://www.benishekforcongress.net
mbs on March 22, 2010 at 8:31 AM
Here is my message to Stupak:
“This email confirms that you have donated Benishek for Congress $25.00 USD using PayPal.”
sebis on March 22, 2010 at 3:18 PM
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