Alcee Hastings on openness and transparency
posted at 2:00 pm on March 21, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Yes, Alcee Hastings’ quote in this clip refers to the composition of rules for the specific bill, and he uttered this before the Democrats climbed down from their Slaughter Strategy, or DemonPass. However, it reeks of the arrogance that Democrats have shown throughout this convoluted effort to pass a bill opposed by a large majority of Americans in order to put one-sixth of the American economy under government rule — and to force every American to account to the IRS for our health insurance. And if Democrats in Congress feel comfortable with making up rules as they go along to get ObamaCare in place, won’t they feel just as comfortable using the same whimsical approach to the rules after they take over American health care? (via the Lonely Conservative)
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The Dems are a criminal class…just that simple. How in god’s name do the outright crooks get elected?
AUINSC on March 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM
You betcha!
trigon on March 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Alcee Hastings told the first non-lie by any Democrat during the entire process.
Pavel on March 21, 2010 at 2:04 PM
Let them revel in their comfort, kick back and drink in their power. There’s no other game where this make-it-up-as-you-go works…. except in democratic congresses and white houses. Eventually, someone applies the rules and reconciles it with the law. Once the proverbial jail cell goes *clink*…then it’s simply, game over.
buh bye.
ted c on March 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM
Whoopsie! That’s what I get for doing three different things at once.
It’s Bush’s fault!
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Stupidity and power is a recipe for destruction. This guy is Exhibit A.
sherry on March 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Alcee Hastings-tell us like it is!!!!
mobydutch on March 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM
our GubRmint ThugOamerica
donabernathy on March 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Pavel,
Exactly.
rob verdi on March 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Did you expect anything different from a former judge that was impeached for bribery?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM
As I’m watching this on CSPAN, I can tell that there is still a lot of arm twisting going on which leads me to believe this is still up in the air. We need to do what we can to defeat this bill. Please click on the following to CONTACT THE SWING VOTES
The Update is near the bottom.
dnlchisholm on March 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Well I guess we American’s can ‘make up rules’ when it comes to paying for this. If they can make them up, well, we can too! My rule is gonna be, I do not want, like, think this is constitutional and therefore, I do not want to have any part of this! Has does this grab you d’s, making up rules?
L
letget on March 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM
I really like the circus much more since the clowns have decided to wear suits.
roflmao
donabernathy on March 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM
Did HotAir cover the Vice President saying that the government was going to run the insurance companies or did I misunderstand him? I am in information overload at this point.
Cindy Munford on March 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM
Isn’t this the same idiot that wants us in concentration camps? F-him!
abobo on March 21, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Finally, the freakin’ truth!! Conservatives should take this clip, along with the clip of Rep. Perriello stating that they’d keep stealing if their hands aren’t tied, and play the statements with Nazi Pelosi’s face in the foreground from now until November.
This process is so sleazy and corrupt that I constantly feel like I need a shower. If only soap and hot water could remove the stink…
CantCureStupid on March 21, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Yup an impeached and convicted by the Senate ex-federal judge, still lapping at the public trough. Ain’t Amerikkka grand?
GnuBreed on March 21, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Personally, I find this guy’s attitude more troubling than a handful of meathead protestors hurling racial epithets and loogies. He’s an elected official; the others are crackpots.
BuckeyeSam on March 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM
We elect them.
boomer on March 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM
Latest Rassmusen poll:
Obama Approval rating
Approve: 45%
Disapprove: 54%
fogw on March 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM
By promising their voters that they’ll get a cut of the loot.
abobo on March 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM
How does a former judge who was impeached on bribery charges get elected to Congress?
Stupid question. Never mind.
GrannyDee on March 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM
Will We the People’s outrage grow or dissipate between now and the November elections?
GaltBlvnAtty on March 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Biden said they would control the insurance companies. In other words, they will take over the insurance companies.
mobydutch on March 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM
“A Representative since 1993 and a Democrat, Hastings was previously a lawyer and judge. He spent ten years as a federal judge (1979–1989), but was impeached and removed from office for corruption and perjury. He was the sixth federal judge to be impeached and removed from office in American history.” Wikipedia
I sure am glad that they have a former federal judge making up the rules. What could go wrong?/
ontherocks on March 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Yessiree, I always listen to corrupt impeached judges. What better moral compass could we have?
Hastings and his ilk are about to become the de facto masters of America. That, if nothing else, is grounds for patriotic, Constitution-loving states to consider the s-word.
Can our nation survive dominance by execrable traitors like Hastings and Papa Doc Obama? I think not.
And no, I am not being racist here. I didn’t choose their skin color for them and there are plenty of others — Nanzi Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Slaughter and hundreds more — who are equally deserving of indictment and arrest.
Perhaps the best solution would be to build an impenetrable wall around D.C. and let these fools play in their own little sandbox, totally disconnected from the USA. We could drop food in for them. Once in a while.
MrScribbler on March 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM
In a word: Yes.
Mr_Magoo on March 21, 2010 at 2:15 PM
A long, long time ago…
I can still remember
How that that Cowboy used to make us smile.
But the GOP ignored ol’ Ron’s stance
And McCain never had a chance
And a “good man” took over for a while.
But the march voting made me shiver
With every new post thor delivered.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn’t take one more step.
I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about Stupak’s slide,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the country died…
Mr. Joe on March 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Speaking for myself, my outrage has just doubled. I am in stroke territory.
mobydutch on March 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
If it passes – How long before our liberal friends admit it was a horrible mistake? How many states go broke before they will admit? How bad will unemployment be before they admit? How valueless will the dollar be before they admit? I know some will never admit their errors, but some will. And, I welcome that day.
If it fails – I cant wait to see San Fran Nan’s face!
Oh, BTW – yep Alcee is that guy I would listen to in all things honourable and upfront
EliTheBean on March 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Sorry. I was doing three different things at once!
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM
There’s a crook for ya … this clown used to be a judge.
darwin on March 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM
I understand that Mother Superior, Nancy, is trying to figure out a way that no one will be the deciding vote. What a bunch of chicken craps.
mobydutch on March 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM
It’s good to see an impeached federal judge can get elected to Congress…
catmman on March 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Hastings, now there’s a man with INTEGRITY!
Hahahahahahahahaha!!
GarandFan on March 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM
He looks like Preval.
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Stupak is counting calls to his office yes/no. CALL HIM to make yourself heard. 202-225-4753 TELL HIM NO.
Enoxo on March 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Democrats – Rules, rules…we don’t need no stinkin’ rules.
yoda on March 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM
Paul Ryan is on C-Span destroying the dems argument about the deficit reduction of this bill. Awesome!
momoftxmomof3 on March 21, 2010 at 2:26 PM
It’ll make a great vid clip for November.
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM
Patches on C-Span – Vote for my father speech.
yoda on March 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM
That made me want to puke.
We need an open thread for those of us watching Cspan.
boomer on March 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM
It’s so great being in a no lose situation…..
give the thugs more rope…..
roflmao
donabernathy on March 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM
New Article: Will He or Won’t He? Bart Stupak Wavers as Obamacare Hangs in the Balance http://bit.ly/dd2BZq
CALL STUPAK NOW!!!
(202) 225 4735
Call Bart Stupak, he’s taking a poll on yes/no. Tell him NO
Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 21, 2010 at 2:31 PM
Megyn Kelley is about to have Weiner on to tell us the latest on the vote count.
Why ask a lying dhim, and present that as news?
Fox has been very disappointing (except for BB), of late. Will someone tell them that “fair and balanced” doesn’t work when covering a corrupted process that is unfair an unbalanced?
The MSM is busy managing disinformation and The Big Lies of the left. It might help if someone responsible for broadcast news was reporting that fact.
ontherocks on March 21, 2010 at 2:31 PM
ARRRRGHHHH Nobody doesn’t have access to a doctor for crying out loud.
boomer on March 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Patches: Yes, let’s have politicians vote for his dead father. The People rejected that argument, which just proves the point again. Congress is out of touch.
GaltBlvnAtty on March 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM
(202) 225 4735
Call Bart Stupak, he’s taking a poll on yes/no. Tell him NO
Enoxo on March 21, 2010 at 2:34 PM
Hold tight, the Democrat’s party’s almost over
Hold tight till then the nation’s in for even nastier weather
There has got to be some better way
Burning down their own party’s house
Here’s their ticket, they can pack their bags, time to throw them overboard
New transportation to Cuba is coming near
Close enough but not too far, maybe they don’t even know anymore where they are
Fightin fire with fire
All wet
Hey Obama, you might need a fireman’s coat
Meltdown
Your dreams fading in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down their own party’s house
It was once upon a time most listened to them
Now they’re gonna come in no place
The Democrats are on their way to Hell, what did they expect
Gonna burst into flame
Democrat party
No longer distinguishable from a third world ordinary
That’s right
They don’t want to offend some leftest nobody
Some things sure can knock them dead on their feet
Burning down their own party’s house
MB4 on March 21, 2010 at 2:36 PM
Mailbox full.
IrishEi on March 21, 2010 at 2:37 PM
I called Stupak and got right through. Yet I can’t get throught to Markey who is MY rep. Sickening.
boomer on March 21, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Cannot get thru to Bart Stupak–mailbox full-not accepting calls.
dragondrop on March 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM
Wasn’t he impeached for bribery charges in a prior decade?? (Not that that really matters in Florida politics)
Ann on March 21, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Democrat scum Hastings is the poster boy for left wing corruption and incompetence.
Hastings is an unqualified, thieving jackass who brings nothing to the table as far as a skill that would help Americans.
He has complete and utter disdain for Democracy. He hates the vast majority of Americans.
Just like our worthless president, House Squeaker and Senate Majority Leader.
Our own government has turned against the American people.
Anyone who voted for any of these Democrats, sold out their country due to ignorance or malice.
NoDonkey on March 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Alcee Hastings is corrupt, clueless, and running his mouth, highlighting his shortcomings.
What a perfect symbol of Oliar’s dhimmocrats.
ontherocks on March 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Listen, people, this hogwash about Stoopak ‘taking a poll’ is just that. He and every other slimeocrat know exactly how we Americans feel about this socialistic nonsense. If he actually gave a damn about the people he claims to represent, he wouldn’t be a democrat in the first place.
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM
HOLY CRAP!
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/88129-democrats-dont-appear-to-have-216-hours-before-a-healthcare-vote
http://centristnetblog.com/daily-news/will-he-or-wont-he-bart-stupak-wavers-as-obamacare-hangs-in-the-balance/
UPDATE: Washington daily The Hill reports about 20 minutes ago that the Democrats do not yet have the votes, and in fact The Hill is reporting a total of 39 “NO” votes from Democrats on their whip count, enough to sink Obamacare. High drama with Stupak and others is sure to continue as Pelosi and Obama work feverishly to find the 3 or 4 votes they need:
Hours before a scheduled vote on healthcare reform, Democratic leaders don’t have the votes.
The decisions of two Tennessee Democrats, Reps. John Tanner and Lincoln Davis, to vote no has put President Barack Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and her lieutenants in a major bind.
If every member votes, Democratic leaders can only afford 37 defections. According to The Hill’s whip list, there are 39 Democrats planning to vote no.
Furthermore, The Hill also has eight Democrats in the undecided/unclear column: Reps Jim Cooper (Tenn.), Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.), Paul Kanjorski (Pa.), Alan Mollohan (W.Va.), Earl Pomeroy (N.D.), Mike Quigley (Ill.), Bobby Rush (Ill.) and Loretta Sanchez (Calif.).
There have been various reports on Sunday that Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) and other anti-abortion lawmakers have agreed to an abortion deal involving an executive order from the Obama administration. However, Stupak’s office are strongly denying those reports.
Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Anti-Harkonnen,
Please God, let this report be true, Please!
L
letget on March 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM
And won’t they be totally cool with Republicans taking the same whimsical approach to the rules when we win back the majority? Perhaps Republicans can make it up as they go along in order to overturn this fraud of a bill.
JohnInCA on March 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM
The Democrats may THINK this is over if they get this vote, but their long political nightmare will have only just begun.
Lily on March 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Piglosi’s gonna have a hard time dragging this over the ‘Finnish’ line :)
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM
They make a deal with Stupak, they lose the pro-abortion sociopath feminists.
This odious deal for this noxious legislation can still fall apart.
Keep hope alive.
We shall overcome.
NoDonkey on March 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM
I’m guessing that day will be a long ways off. First you will see massive increases in taxes, and huge cutbacks to medical services (waiting lists, ‘comparative effectiveness’ decisions that limit the most expensive care to the young and restrict the kinds of drugs that can be used for treatments based on cost, not effectiveness, etc.). Then you’ll see huge reductions in military spending, a major shrinkage of your armed forces, the virtual end of innovation in military technologies and the space program.
Oh you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet if this sucker passes…
ProfessorMiao on March 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM
The future.
Mr. Joe on March 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM
You know, I’m torn. Part of me wants to see it happen so my idiot liberal democrat friends feel it.
But I don’t want to see the country wrecked.
Stupid should hurt.
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Alcee Hastings should have been in jail long ago. Behold our new Over Lords…
d1carter on March 21, 2010 at 3:03 PM
2 good 2 check?
bernzright777 on March 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM
Open and transparent only in its abject tyranny.
anuts on March 21, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Frankly, I’m watching CSPAN, and none of these “clips” should ever be showed, with the exception of 1 or 2.
These people are deplorably depressing in terms of offering a single real voice of intelligence.
*sigh*
I proclaim that the public’s low opinion is well-earned.
AnninCA on March 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM
The Democrats: bringing Americans closer together, one unconstitutional outrage at a time!
Sharke on March 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Mailbox full. Full full full.
Bishop on March 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Oh don’t worry, not having enough votes has never worried the Democrats. As we saw in 2000, Democrats know of 20 or so different methods of counting, none of which use the base-10 system.
Sharke on March 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Rescinding this bill will be THE issue for every Republican this November. What can be done with 51 can be undone with 51. The Senate is now Area 51.
Mojave Mark on March 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Did HotAir cover the Vice President saying that the government was going to run the insurance companies or did I misunderstand him? I am in information overload at this point.
Cindy Munford on March 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM
Cindy Munford:)
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VP Biden Says Obama Plans to ‘Control Insurance Companies’
Big Government – 1 day ago
1The indispensable Jake Tapper of ABC News took an interview with Vice President Joe “Foot in Mouth” Biden that contains a nugget of information that tends to prove that Barack Obama intends to destroy America’s Insurance Industry and place it under the full control of the Federal Government. Tapper asked VP Biden what he’d been hearing from the members of the Democrat Congress that are vulnerable over this healthcare debate and Biden’s reply let slip the…
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http://politifi.com/news/VP-Biden-Says-Obama-Plans-to-Control-Insurance-Companies-311592.html
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Biden: ‘We’re Going to Control the Insurance Companies’
Video:
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http://www.thefoxnation.com/vice-president-joe-biden/2010/03/19/biden-were-going-control-insurance-companies?page=2
canopfor on March 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM
You realize of course that the liberals will never see this as a failure of their policies. They will see it as a failure of the evil, uncaring, Republicans to throw more money at the problem. For example see the Department of Education.
Lily on March 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM
How do you find these things?
Bishop on March 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Kildee a NO. Just breaking on CSPAN
rickyricardo on March 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Hastings admits they make up the rules and another congressman admits that they are going to keep stealing unless we tie their hands.
Folks, we’re at the beginning of tyranny. We’ve got to stop this in November. 2012 will be much too late.
hachiban on March 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Fox News Coverage Live Feed
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It might be my end,but volume seems to
have a kerfuffle.
http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=6
canopfor on March 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Without a doubt, this is a watershed moment in our nation’s history. My partner, a life-long Democrat, just downloaded the CT voter registration form to change her party… to REPUBLICAN! She is fed up with the bull from the Dems and no longer feels they represent her reason for being in that party.
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes!
Logic on March 21, 2010 at 3:26 PM
I’m referring to my rank and file idiot friends. I’d love to hear them wail about all the money being taken in taxes to the point where their simplest pleasures are affected.
I’d use my best crying voice and say “It’s all George W. Bush’s fault!!! Obama only wants good!!! George Bush is evil!!! The mess left by George W. Bush was toooooo much for those benevolent democrats to clean up!!!”
My next response would be like ” Yeah, you stupid moron. You keep blaming Bush until you’re dead. The good deal is you’ll be gone either way.”
I don’t suffer idiots well.
Lanceman on March 21, 2010 at 3:27 PM
I agree.
Jeff2161 on March 21, 2010 at 3:28 PM
canopfor on March 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM
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How do you find these things?
Bishop on March 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Bishop: The right combo of words on google me thinks!!
For an example,I’ve been looking for a data base of
all Obama speechs,and bingo,I pulled in a date,and
I hit the motherlode!:)
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Barack Obama Speeches – 2002-2009
http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/obama-speeches/
canopfor on March 21, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes!
Logic on March 21, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Logic:)
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David Bowie, Changes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xorNjvg1B48
canopfor on March 21, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Sweet!
bernzright777 on March 21, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Well then thank Gaia for people like you, that is some serious research.
Bishop on March 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM
I can just hear it now. “If Big Business wasn’t so evil and greedy all my simple pleasures would be free just like my dandy government health care should be.”
Idiots the lot of them. When they think of things being provided by the Federal Government they think it is “free”. They never believe that at some point they are the ones that are going to have to pay the taxes to cover it. It’s always “the rich” or “Big Business” that should be paying.
Lily on March 21, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Of course he did.
And his co-conspirator was pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office.
See, this kind of thing is a resume enhancement if you have a “D” after your name.
BTW Hastings had this to say about the idiot who ran against Joe Biden for VP
Del Dolemonte on March 21, 2010 at 3:46 PM
The fact that Hastings is allowed to be an elected official after being impeached as a judge tells one the state of our political system.
thomasaur on March 21, 2010 at 4:28 PM
I’m no advocate for the impeached leftist Hastings, but the clip is too short. Did he say something afterward like, “…that’s what they say about us”?
jgapinoy on March 21, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Thanks for telling it like it is, you bastard.
disa on March 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Apparently either no one cares about this or it just another “oh, that Joe, ha ha!” moment.
Cindy Munford on March 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM
???
Might as well be Britney Spears on Motherhood or Bill Clinton on marital fidelity.
infidel4life on March 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM
For the most part, they are elected by crooks. People who think they have a right to take from others, if they want to.
MarkTheGreat on March 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Alcee Hastings is another one of these certified assclowns that has me scratching my head wondering as to how someone like him got elected into office to begin with. The man is nothing but a punk ass thug!
pilamaye on March 21, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Lily at 2:56
I hope you are correct, and I will work to make it so.
GaltBlvnAtty on March 21, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Mojave Mark: I wish it were so, but it is not. No bill rescinding this POS can be enacted without veto-proof republican majorities in both houses or a new president plus control of both houses.
GaltBlvnAtty on March 21, 2010 at 6:45 PM
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