Video: Ryan vs Slaughter on Medicare reform

posted at 1:48 pm on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Democrats like Louise Slaughter keep saying that Republicans have no plan to reform health care. Paul Ryan showed up at the Rules committee meeting today to explain that they do — and demonstrate that Democrats either don’t understand it or want to ignore it. Either way, Ryan finally forces Slaughter to get help from Xavier Becerra, but Becerra also manages to miss the point. This clip is getting a lot of attention on Twitter, and for good reason:


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Five minutes ago, from Robert Stacy McCain:

UPDATE 3:11 p.m. ET: Now hearing that “deem and pass” is dead, and a D.C. source tells me that pro-lifers aren’t buying the executive order pitch, rumors of which had been heard earlier this week. However, the fact that leadership is even talking about such a far-fetched maneuver means that Pelosi still doesn’t have enough votes to pass the bill.

Emperor Norton on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM

No contest. Obama is a terrible extemporaneous speaker. He doesn’t have a deep enough understanding of the issues to be conversant in most of what he’s required to deal with–regardless of what the media tell us.

BuckeyeSam on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Beccera just sounds like an idiot complaining that 9

0% of people will have to pay taxes to fund the thing.

Hey, dumb*ss, it’s an entitlement program, why shouldn’t most of the population pay in to the kitty to fund it?

History will tell who’s right, but I’m betting on it being Ryan.

venividivici on March 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Beccera just sounds like an idiot complaining that 90% of people will have to pay taxes to fund the thing.

Remember: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

You don’t really expect a Democrat to pay his taxes do you ;)

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

No, I think Ryan does a terrific job of pulling out his main points and zeroing in on their misunderstandings.

The Dems look incompetent and at a loss.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Exactly right.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Quick transcript for the deaf, please?

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Emperor Norton on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

I see he has some tea party folks photos up too – God Bless Them.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I guess this proposed Health Insurance Reform Bill serves some purpose but it’s not for the good of the citizenry of the United States.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM

It’s no good in any way, and the People know it. The Dems are determined to get this through, for proposed belief as I mentioned.

But it might not get through.

What is happening now is the same kind of imagined thing the Hippies were complaining about, that has become reality; their deepest dread.

Tomorrow is going to be interesting. There’s a chance that maybe–just maybe–scams like this will unite Right and Left to common cause: true liberty. Sure, we and those old-time Hippies might disagree on detail, but in the end we want the same thing: freedom.

Ramifications look dark right now, to be sure. But once you open a can of worms, you need a bigger can to re-can them.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Emperor Norton on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

NRLC: Exec. Order Can’t Fix Abortion Problems in HCR Bill

Emphasis added.

There are reports that Bart Stupak and other pro-life Democrats are meeting with Nancy Pelosi. Speaker Pelosi has said that they are discussing a compromise that would use an executive order to allay the concerns of pro-life Democrats. The National Right to Life Committee just put out a release explaining that an executive order cannot fix the abortion related problems in the health care bill:

…It should be noted that all of the problems listed in the NRLC letter — with the possible exception of no. 5 (pro-abortion administrative mandates) — would be created by and controlled by the proposed statutory language of H.R. 3590. If the bill is signed into law, these statutory requirements and defects are not subject to correction or nullification by the chief executive or his appointees, whether by Executive Order, regulation, or otherwise. Lawmakers will be responsible for the law that they vote for, and cannot hide behind hollow assurances from the President.

Prof. Robert Destro, a professor of law and former dean of the Columbus School of Law at the Catholic University of America, and an expert on abortion-related litigation, today sent Congressman Stupak an illuminating letter regarding whether the $7 billion in funds directly appropriated for Community Health Centers, in the Senate health bill (H.R. 3590), could be or would be spent for abortions….

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Emperor Norton on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

How do they save face? Declare they need a cooling off period? like Liam stated earlier this is got to be a WIN for Obama if it can’t be a WIN then it sure can’t be seen as a Loss.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Rep Louise Slaughter Refuses To Hold Town Hall Meetings, Gives Bizarre Excuses
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpadscoVtz4&feature=related

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Ramifications look dark right now, to be sure. But once you open a can of worms, you need a bigger can to re-can them.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I mentioned in a post last week here on Hot Air, that Nancy Pelosi has opened “Pandora’s Box” and there is something inside that will bite her.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

All this hassle, expense and bad feeling would have been avoided if we had a President with a grain of experience. This dog and pony show is of his making along with Nancy and Harry. Bloody mess, that’s what it is and it belongs to Barack!

jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

I wish I could find one. If you have enough hearing to use a hearing aid you may be able to understand Ryan as he has a clear speaking voice.

He basically goes over his plan to keep Medicare solvent.

The Dems don’t understand (wilfully or otherwise–but they look as if they do not know how to refute him), and they keep interrupting him.

Slaughter especially looks as if she doesn’t understand him.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Also, C-Span on TV usually has closed caption. I haven’t seen that yet on their stream at their website.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM

I mentioned in a post last week here on Hot Air, that Nancy Pelosi has opened “Pandora’s Box” and there is something inside that will bite her.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

No sacrifice is without reward, and no sin escapes justice.

All will be well in the end, or so I like to believe.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM

MB4 on March 20, 2010 at 3:22 PM

They have already transfered all the money and assets to other accounts… the only thing left is bills…

Thus… bankruptcy, then they all move on to the new organization…

Romeo13 on March 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Sure, we and those old-time Hippies might disagree on detail, but in the end we want the same thing: freedom.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Yeah. The problem is the left/Hippies confuse freedom with “liberation,” i.e. the tripe spouted by Che, Stalin and Mao. If they truly believed in freedom, as espoused by the founding fathers in the Constitution, they’d be conservative.

Put that in your hookah and smoke it!

J.J. Sefton on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM

I would pay to see the beat down of the century. Ryan would have Obama so flustered he would be reduced to duh’s and ummm’s.

farright on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

That’s my problem, INC, I’m in a new apartment without any cable or satellite TV. All I have is an internet connection.

:P

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

sweet!!!

me likey

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Exposure tomorrow. Now those cowards can’t hide and we’ll all know how they voted and we won’t forget all summer long on the campaign trail.

yoda on March 20, 2010 at 2:45 PM

yoda:Ahem,I remember somebody saying,I’ll make them famous:)
==========================================

MCCAIN: I’ve fought the big spenders…

(APPLAUSE)

I’ve fought the big spenders in both parties, who waste your money on

things you neither need nor want, and the first big-spending

pork-barrel earmark bill that comes across my desk, I will veto it. I

will make them famous, and you will know their names. You will know

their names.

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM

The unfortunate thing about them not using deem and pass is that a bunch of no votes because of it have now changed to yes votes. This is disgusting.

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 3:29 PM

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM

heh

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 3:29 PM

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

OK!

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

another maalox moment

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

You want crazy.

This is friggin crazy.

Rahm, you are a disgrace to the USA and a betrayer of Israel.

Mr. Joe on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Quick transcript for the deaf, please?

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Ryan says that his plan would not change Medicare for those over 55 and those under 55 would get what our congress people get.
The dems said “whaaaaaaat?!!!!”

Vince on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

“They’re exactly on time,” she told Fox News at the rally. “Over 25,000 Americans came here practically on 24-hour notice. They can’t wait to be the welcome wagon for President Barack Obama when he comes this afternoon for a meeting with House Democrats.”

After the rally, Tea Partiers plan to confront undecided Democratic lawmakers in their congressional offices and convince them to vote against the bill.

Ana Puig of Pennsylvania said she came with eight busloads of Tea Partiers.

“The people are excited,” she said. “They feel this is our last chance to really let these people here at the House know that we don’t want them to pass this bill. It’s unconstitutional.”

Puig said opponents are ready to “fight like hell to repeal this bill if it goes through.”

“The Tea Party Movement is real,” she said. “We are here for the long haul. This is just the beginning for us.”

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Slaughter especially looks as if she doesn’t understand him.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

She’s not listening to understand. She’s listening just enough to purposely misrepresent what he says. Doesn’t work, though, and it’s obvious.

ROCnPhilly on March 20, 2010 at 3:31 PM

The unfortunate thing about them not using deem and pass is that a bunch of no votes because of it have now changed to yes votes. This is disgusting.

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 3:29 PM

Wait a second. What bill is being voted on? The House hates the Senate bill and without that there is no reconciliation bill. WTF is going on here?!!!

J.J. Sefton on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/03/20/HP/R/30879/WEEKEND+DEBATE+ON+HEALTH+CARE+BEGINS.aspx

The video of the Deem And Pass strategy being renounced by the rules committee.

manofaiki on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM
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Nice:
I’ll save that for when I do some reloading and beer drinkin’.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Cybergeezer:)

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Put that in your hookah and smoke it!

J.J. Sefton on March 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

LOL

I know your point, and I say what I do for having met true liberals. Agreed, in the end they wind up Conservative though they hate admitting it.

I’ve met Marxists who, back in the day, called the Soviet Union an “…oppressive society…”

Can only work with what I know.

And I used to be a hard-core liberal. Today, to me, the best President we ever had was Ronald Reagan.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Seeing this clip of Rep. Ryan gives me at least some shred of hope that not everyone on Capitol Hill is a complete imbecile.

I seriously just wan’t to hug his neck.

The Ugly American on March 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM

J.J. I know the House hates the Senate bill, but that is exactly what they will be voting for. They somehow think the Senate is going to let them amend it.

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Remember: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

You don’t really expect a Democrat to pay his taxes do you ;)

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Democrat Mantra:

From Each According to his ability, except me; to each according to his need, with me getting preferential treatment.

Holger on March 20, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

But you can tell the difference from the true believer and the corrupt. I wouldn’t put Slaughter down in the true believer category. Useful Idiot gets tossed around a lot….

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:36 PM

U

seful Idiot gets tossed around a lot….

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Those of conviction never get tossed around, which defines Slaughter.

What’s in a name?

Everything…

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:37 PM

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 3:33 PM

suckers, the whole lot of them

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM

suckers whores, the whole lot of them

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM

FIFY

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Ryan, trying to explain anything to “Loo-eeze”, made as much headway as I do when I try to educate my sweet potatoes.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Don’t tell me: Slaughter went to the same law school as Barrack?

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:43 PM

C-SPAN2 Live Stream
LIVE Video
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http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Sorry. I had to bail at 1:58.

Cong. Slaughter is a bona fide, certifiable, authentic, stamped, grade A moron.

And by moron, I mean a stupid, blabbering, inchoate bitch.

pabarge on March 20, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Today, to me, the best President we ever had was Ronald Reagan.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM

And history is proving that statement.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Don’t tell me: Slaughter went to the same law school as Barrack crr6?

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:43 PM

FIFY

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Ryan says that his plan would not change Medicare for those over 55 and those under 55 would get what our congress people get.
The dems said “whaaaaaaat?!!!!”

Vince on March 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM

And the Dems said, “We’re trying to insure 95% of the American people, but you want to insure only three million people…” – not apparently understanding (perhaps deliberately, but I honestly think we’re talking Box O’ Rocks Time) that he’s talking about how to save Medicare in the coming years (because it’s currently on its way to bankruptcy), and they’re comparing his plan with the socialist plan for everyone that they’re trying to pass tomorrow.

Slaughter really is a moron. I’m not joking. She is stupid.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM
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No contest. Obama is a terrible extemporaneous speaker. He doesn’t have a deep enough understanding of the issues to be conversant in most of what he’s required to deal with–regardless of what the media tell us.

BuckeyeSam on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

BuckeyeSam:Yup,trainwreck!!!:)

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Paul Ryan is so much smarter than these lunkhead Dems it isn’t even funny. Slaughter doesn’t listen, she demagogues; Becerra spews Obama’s talking points. Ryan is the one man in the room that seems to be intelligently addressing the issues at hand.

Americans are watching, and they know bullies and idiots when they see them.

Go Paul Go!

Mark7788 on March 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Ryan is schooling the Left on income earned,lol!

http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM

And history is proving that statement.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM

With fullest agreement on my part!

I so much miss the 80s, with Reagan, Kohl, Thatcher, and Reagan another twelve times.

Those were heady days.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Acorn on Brink of Bankruptcy, Officials Say

Acorn is holding a teleconference this weekend to discuss plans for a bankruptcy filing, two officials of the group said. They asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the news media.

MB4 on March 20, 2010 at 3:22 PM

MB4: I find that hard to believe,on the otherhand,were talk
ing Libs,so,they’ll demand more tax payer dollars!:)

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I so much miss the 80s, with Reagan, Kohl, Thatcher, and Reagan another twelve times.

Those were heady days.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Liam: So do I!

Heres my 80′s anthem!:)
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The Cars – Good Times Roll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOhdlVUg9uc

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM

Ryan and who cares? in 2012!

Just the thought of having someone literate and responsible on the economy is like waking up from a national nightmare.

Nichevo on March 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Went back and listened; she says “three million more people”…but the point is that she can’t seem to distinguish between his plan to rescue Medicare and a general public plan.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:56 PM

One last point on this: Imagine if Palin argued the way Slaughter does here.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:58 PM

I so much miss the 80s, with Reagan, Kohl, Thatcher, and Reagan another twelve times.

Those were heady days.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I was on a Capitol tour and in the Rotunda when Margaret Thatcher walked in and the place erupted in spontaneous applause.
Still gives me chills;
Heady indeed!

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Don’t tell me: Slaughter went to the same law school as Barrack?

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Cybergeezer:)
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The family moved to Monticello, where Louise attended high school. After graduating from high school, she enrolled at the University of Kentucky in Lexington, where she studied microbiology. After graduating with a bachelor’s degree, she went on to earn a master’s degree in public health, also from the University of Kentucky.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Slaughter
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Originally from Hawaii, Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

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Btw,both of the Obama’s Law Licences were surrended!:)

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Remember: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

You don’t really expect a Democrat to pay his taxes do you ;)

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

That whole metamorphosis from “Four legs good, two legs bad” to “Four legs good, two legs better” thing only works in a society where “four legs” is unarmed.

Remember that Denzel Washington movie “John Q”? Expect many real-life remakes over the next few years with government bureaucrats substituting for HMO bureaucrats.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251160/

I won’t shed any tears.

venividivici on March 20, 2010 at 4:02 PM

One last point on this: Imagine if Palin argued the way Slaughter does here.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:58 PM

capitalist piglet:The way Slaughter is carry on,is
exactly the way,the msm,painted
SarahCuda!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Slaughter especially looks as if she doesn’t understand him.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Never in a million years will she understand what is being told to her.

He has his talking points and is doing a heck of a job!

I so much miss the 80s, with Reagan, Kohl, Thatcher, and Reagan another twelve times.

Those were heady days.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Amen!

OneConservative on March 20, 2010 at 4:06 PM

You know what, screw the retreads. Ryan in ’12.

Jim-Rose on March 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Ryan pwned that broad, the numbskull from Cali and Loony Levin.

FishFearMe on March 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Mark Levin is right. Slaughter should be expelled from the Congress. She is not there to preserve and defend the Constitution, she is there to usurp it! She is a disgrace as a Congressional representative, an absolute disgrace!

pilamaye on March 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM

God save us from mental midgets like Slaughter. What a moron! And just think of the idiots who vote her in!!!! Jeez!!!!

ultracon on March 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM

I thought Slaughter looked familiar is some negative way.

Remember that original Star Trek where there was a parallel universe and all the crew of the Enterprise had evil counterparts, some with beards and such?

Slaughter is the evil Aunt Bea.
This is the troof.
Seriously.

justltl on March 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM

We did see one at the 7-hour health care summit a couple of weeks ago. Ryan took Obama to school and all hopey had in response was his middle finger.

PatMac on March 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Ryan for 2012! He’s really making a name for himself!

When was the last time a Representative was elected POTUS? I have often preferred Representatives and their passion over the collegial, “play-nice” Senators and would love to see one be the party’s nominee.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on March 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Acorn on Brink of Bankruptcy, Officials Say

Acorn is holding a teleconference this weekend to discuss plans for a bankruptcy filing, two officials of the group said. They asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the news media.

MB4 on March 20, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Two words: Stimulus money.

Dopenstrange on March 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM

if Republicans nominate anyone other than Ryan for President in 2012 they are nuts. The man is the entire package – strong, smart, determined, knowledgeable and not bad to look at!

marnes on March 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Slaughter especially looks as if she doesn’t understand him.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM

She’s about five gallons of stupid.

eanax on March 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM

That was the most epic smackdown of an entire group of people that I have ever seen outside of a marvel comic movie.

Mord on March 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM

Ryan impresses me; but I’m not sure his proposals will actually be popular if they get a public hearing.

He’s basically looking at “means testing” Social Security and Medicare. Because otherwise they’re bankrupt.

He’s also looking at upping the “retirement age” at which you can draw benefits… because people live longer now than they did when these plans were started; so we need them to consider retiring later if they’ll be living on these benefits.

He’s right on both counts, these are the reasons the programs are ballooning in size; but it’s definitely a cut to benefits to reduce the size & scope of the program to limit it to those who need it.

Yes those over 55 or so are “grandfathered” in to the current rules (so you don’t mess up someone’s plans as they’re ready to retire); so seniors actually can’t/wont suffer. And those of us under 40 knew we wouldn’t get these once we hit 62+ anyhow (unless we thought money grew on trees) but it won’t be a popular proposal… just necessary.

gekkobear on March 20, 2010 at 5:29 PM

it won’t be a popular proposal… just necessary.

gekkobear on March 20, 2010 at 5:29 PM

Remember the words of Andrew Jackson:

Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.

fossten on March 20, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Dear God he destroyed her and she doesn’t even know it.

So many fools with so much power. It’s frightening, truly.

Yakko77 on March 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Louise Slaughter either IS a moron, or she’s just ACTING like a moron. I find it hard to believe that someone in charge of the Rules Committee can be that stupid. Additionally, if she had interrupted me as many times as she interrupted Ryan, she would have been wearing that pencil as a nose plug.

gordo on March 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

You sort of did at the so-called bipartisan health care summit. Ryan shut him down. O just sat there stewing. I’m sure he would have flipped him off in his sneaky way if he’d had a chance. Ryan was awesome!

MainelyRight on March 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

You sort of did at the so-called bipartisan health care summit. Ryan shut him down. O just sat there stewing. I’m sure he would have flipped him off in his sneaky way if he’d had a chance. Ryan was awesome!

MainelyRight on March 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM

And he did it without a teleprompter too!

Yakko77 on March 20, 2010 at 6:01 PM

If Zero is making another speech on the Hill, then that means they don’t have the votes and he’s still begging them to save his hide. After he’s made such a mess of things, they should come out from under the bus and teach him a lesson. If not, then they deserve whatever happens in Nov. Well, they still deserve it anyway and so much more.

Kissmygrits on March 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM

with all due respect, and no offense meant, Slaughter strikes me as a tad retarded.

John the Libertarian on March 20, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Louise Slaughter- I always wondered who was the inspiration for Maud.

RobCon on March 20, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Louise Slaughter is irritating and rude.

tartan on March 20, 2010 at 6:31 PM

he’s talking about how to save Medicare in the coming years (because it’s currently on its way to bankruptcy), and they’re comparing his plan with the socialist plan for everyone that they’re trying to pass tomorrow.

Slaughter really is a moron. I’m not joking. She is stupid.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM

It’s truly amazing that they refuse to admit that the current system is broke. They want to double down and refuse give up on the ponzi scheme. Unbelievable really that the people we entrust to guard our systems have no desire to fix anything.

whbates on March 20, 2010 at 6:32 PM

I predict Paul Ryan will be on the 2012 Rep. ticket. He is so right on articulate,knowledgeable,confident, etc,etc.

3dpuzzman on March 20, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Paul Ryan kicks a$$. Period.

He just made everyone’s VP short list. This guy is going to be President someday.

victor82 on March 20, 2010 at 6:38 PM

When was the last time a Representative was elected POTUS?
Aslans Girl on March 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM

James A. Garfield direct and it did not turn out all that well for him, Gerald Ford did the stop as VP until POTUS Only to that did not have time out of the house before the jump.
more info:http://is.gd/aQJpV

Palin/Ryan 2012 would be the dream ticket.

Ryan 2020-2028

tjexcite on March 20, 2010 at 6:46 PM

The fact is that SS and Medicare are going bankrupt. Medicare costs are growing beyond ability for government to pay.

Cuts will HAVE TO BE MADE at some point. The question is whether to start now so we can adjust gradually and lessen the pain, or whether we continue to bury our heads in the sand and end up with abrupt cuts when the bill comes due.

A second question is what is the most efficient way to keep services up and costs down. And in my opinion, that is through reverting back to utilizing the free market as much as is possible given the current state of things.

Honestly, the best two things I can think of that government could do IF they wanted to mandate something that would lower health care costs are steps that would get consumers more skin in the game:

1. Mandate that all insurance plans have minimum percentage-based co-pays.

For instance, instead of paying somewhere from $0-$30 to go see the doctor, you pay a minimum of 10%-30%. Say you had to pay 20%. Now instead of just going to a doctor and not caring what it costs (say $200) because you pay $20 no matter what, if you pay 20% you now look around for the best price because if you can find a doctor that you like that charges $140 instead of $200, you only pay $28 instead of $40. The competition which drives down costs plus the higher amount that you’re chipping in will reduce insurance rates to save you net cost overall.

In the same way, X-rays and MRI’s and all other medical tests should be paid for on a percentage basis. This gives the users of the services the motivation to shop around for the best price at a quality they are comfortable with.

The market competition will bring down prices, and it doesn’t need everyone in the system to be price conscious. Just as with any other good or service, everyone will benefit from the efforts of the folks who are price conscious.

2. Mandate that all medical care providers post prices or offer on the spot quotes.

Without price visibility, consumers are unable to make informed decisions that include price. Right now, most people go find the best quality care they can and don’t worry about price, because they think someone else (insurance) is paying. There is simply not enough incentive or understanding for people to think through it and say,

“Yeah, I’m going to put in the hours of effort it takes calling my providers and insurance to find out what the best cost is for this visit or procedure, because even though it costs me the same either way, I know that it will ultimately raise my insurance rates if I don’t shop around for the best price.”

Until the health care system gives the consumers of health care both the price visibility and incentive to shop around and/or consume less, costs will continue to increase at an unsustainable rate.

I read a figure somewhere last year, and I wish I could find it again, that back in the 60′s, individuals on average paid for 60% of health care expenses out of pocket. Now they only pay about 10% out of pocket, the rest is covered through insurance (and even the cost of that is hidden through the employer-based system). No wonder we consume 3 times as much health care in number of procedures per person that we did in 1980!

willamettevalley on March 20, 2010 at 6:50 PM

The look on her face at 6:16 is remarkable. She looks completely, utterly vacuous, almost double-digit IQ territory.

Also? Paul Ryan 2012. This guy is all the media lately–and is intelligent, reasoned and well-spoken in every exchange.

Grace_is_sufficient on March 20, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Ryan for GOP majority leader!

ncconservative on March 20, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Dopenstrange on March 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM

My dog is a natural born citizen! Lets, see, 7 years times 7 for dog years, she’s eligible!

Mini-14 on March 20, 2010 at 9:44 PM

I like this Paul Ryan guy. I think he has a really bright future.

SoulGlo on March 20, 2010 at 10:42 PM

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