Video: Ryan vs Slaughter on Medicare reform

posted at 1:48 pm on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Democrats like Louise Slaughter keep saying that Republicans have no plan to reform health care. Paul Ryan showed up at the Rules committee meeting today to explain that they do — and demonstrate that Democrats either don’t understand it or want to ignore it. Either way, Ryan finally forces Slaughter to get help from Xavier Becerra, but Becerra also manages to miss the point. This clip is getting a lot of attention on Twitter, and for good reason:


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I’ve never held out a lot of hope for Dem brain power, but I don’t think they’re quite as dumb as they appear here…”quite” is still the operative word. I believe they are deliberately acting dumb because they can’t argue effectively with or against Ryan. He’s brilliant. I just love listening to him speak.

Are they brainwashed ideologues or just stupid?

MainelyRight on March 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM

The Dems have dropped their deem and pass attempt and will vote on the stand alone bill. The have also indicated that there will be no deal with Stupak’s group. This can only mean that they now have enough votes to pass the senate bill. Things are not looking good.

rplat on March 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM

excellent taste my friend :)

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 2:32 PM

And Slaughter is one dumbass Congressperson.

drjohn on March 20, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Elected by dumbass liberals. ;)

capejasmine on March 20, 2010 at 2:32 PM

The Dems have dropped their deem and pass attempt and will vote on the stand alone bill. The have also indicated that there will be no deal with Stupak’s group. This can only mean that they now have enough votes to pass the senate bill. Things are not looking good.

rplat on March 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

Hard to say? Because now their ammendments and goodies don’t go in. Are they willing to risk that, for a promise of later? When they know later will never come?

capejasmine on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM

And Slaughter is one dumbass Congressperson.

drjohn on March 20, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Just the ‘one’? LOL My last count is 535.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Are they brainwashed ideologues or just stupid?

MainelyRight on March 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Jaded and Corrupt look at Slaughter’s age, she has been in the Ho’er House For a Long Time.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Paul Ryan, national treasure.

IrishEi on March 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM

FWIW: FNC says that Ryan will be on Fox News Sunday tomorrow with Chris Wallace. And the opposing viewed will be Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. Cancer survivor notwithstanding, I hope Ryan carves her up. Watch for her to devolve into anecdotal sob stories as proof of the need for Obamacare–as opposed to the commonsense reform advocated by Ryan.

C’mon, Dems. These decisions require thinking, not tears.

BuckeyeSam on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

I’m watching the rules committee now. What is this with deem and pass being dropped?? Who’s the source of that??

SSgtDC on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Intelligence is indignant.

You remind me of someone, somewhere… Hmmmm.

Whatever the case, keep up the good work — I love your posts.

hillbillyjim on March 20, 2010 at 2:35 PM

SSgtDC on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Washington Post.

Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 2:35 PM

If everyone in Congress was as intelligent and capable as Paul Ryan, these problems would be gone already…

Holger on March 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Hard to say? Because now their ammendments and goodies don’t go in. Are they willing to risk that, for a promise of later? When they know later will never come?

capejasmine on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM

I doubted it these people don’t trust themselves and they know how the Senate will treat them for there behavior.

It’s depressing to see the actual count of people in the House that don’t have a Spine….it’s like we have a bunch of elected Jellyfish.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Sweeeeet! “if you dont like the question………..ask a question” seemed to work well for Rep. Ryan. Now for the truth of the matter….this is NOT obamacare it is “CHEROKEE CARE” or “INDYCARE” if you will…..we were warned by are native american citizens that this health care bill was the same train wreck and inept piece of caca legislation they have been forced to live with! We will fight on for all americans

justonevictory on March 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

Three liberals’ brains don’t add up to one conservative one.

What a bunch of knats.

Intelligence is indignant.

Schadenfreude on March 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM

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canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

I’m watching the rules committee now. What is this with deem and pass being dropped?? Who’s the source of that??

SSgtDC on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

runner on March 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM

I’m watching the rules committee now. What is this with deem and pass being dropped?? Who’s the source of that??

SSgtDC on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Foxnews reporting that Demon Pass is dead.

WashJeff on March 20, 2010 at 2:37 PM

I adore Paul Ryan. I think he’s a little green yet to run for president, but you never know. At a minimum, I predict he’s on the short list for VP. He’d be a great pick and it would be perfect grooming for the White House.

NoLeftTurn on March 20, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Are there speedo pics of Ryan somewhere on the ‘net? Cause he is hot hot HOT.

bitsy on March 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM

It seems the Slaughter’s position is that hoi poloi simply won’t make good choices – that we little people need Granny Sam to help guide us. That would be the same Granny Sam that denies proportionally more claims than any other insurer.

If Congress were to act on Ryan’s plan Slaughter IS right; they’d end Medicare as we know it. Or they can continue to whistle past the graveyard and let the bankruptcy end medicare as we know it. Your call, Congress.

darkpixel on March 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Anyone notice the flurry of conflicting ‘news’ reports out there today?

This isn’t to fluster those opposed, but more to energize the kooky Left supporters, to later say Congresscritters got so much in support of this looming disaster.

Keep up the pressure; don’t balk! Don’t lose heart and always keep faith. Don’t let them win, and that’s all thus flurry is about. Forget the media; they don’t even know what’s going on. The media run with every tidbit they can get, with accuracy not being a major part of it.

Stay frosty, Friends.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Cardoza Threatened to Vote Against Demon Pass: He’s one of the two Democrats bribed with water in the San Joaqim Valley.

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) appeared to switch positions on healthcare on Saturday, saying he’d vote against a rule that deems the Senate bill as passed.
Cardoza, a previously undecided lawmaker who’d voted to pass Democrats’ healthcare bill in November, said he would vote against the process his party plans to move forward on healthcare.

“I don’t believe it’s smart of us to pass a bill this momentous with a deemed rule,” Cardoza said in a Rules Committee markup. “I want to make the announcement in the committee right now that I don’t support that, and won’t support a rule that does it that way.”

So dropping the Demon Pass strategem, I guess, secured his vote.

AOSHQ

Wow. The guy got paid off twice for his vote? First they turn on the water, and then they drop Demonpass?

Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Louise “The Butcher”,just wants the Right to Shut the
h*ll up,and pass it!!

Facts,facts,who needs reality!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

This can only mean that they now have enough votes to pass the senate bill. Things are not looking good.

rplat on March 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM

That’s not the only thing it can mean. It might mean that they also decided to avoid the nasty legal challenges, or their rules experts decided that it was, in fact, illegal.

If the Stupak 12 had any integrity (as much as Stupak himself), then they would all immediately become “no” votes, as would DeFazio, since his Medicare fix just went “poof,” too.

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

“We are discriminating against people who do not get insurance through their employers”

Darn right, everything the government does favors employees over self-employed. If you take any risks, and take initiative, you are punished, and it’s getting much worse with the current Jacobin leadership.

forest on March 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Got it.

“Van Hollen, who has been working on the issue with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), said House leaders concluded that that order — approving the amendments before approving the Senate bill — makes clear that the House intends to modify the Senate bill and not approve the Senate bill itself”

If this is true, the Senate will have to revote… If they think they can pass it as is, well things aren’t looking good

SSgtDC on March 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM

banner on cspan2 indicating deem and pass will not be used…

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM

I agree keep the pressure up! If deem and pass is dead, Congressman can’t hide behind it and they would have to accept the Senate bill as is.That should be a bitter pill to swallow for House members.

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM

So a straight up and down vote on the Senate bill? At least the fig leaf will be stripped away if they do this. And perhaps a few yeses will reflip too.

GnuBreed on March 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Pelosi thinks she has the votes if she is dropping the charade of Demon Pass…

d1carter on March 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Btw,Ryan is the real meaning of “Articulation in Action”!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Not exactly hard to tell which of the two holds a degree in economics.

Equanim1ty found on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Carl Cameron just said that 2 out of the 9 on the committe have said that they will not vote for demon pass. It could still pass committee, but with a vote of 7 – 6. It looks like right now, they are too chicken to do it.

kingsjester on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM

There are many Liberals who don’t like this Bill either it is a slim margin that is supporting this Bill. It doesn’t have anything I would describe as wide spread Public Support…so why do they want to jam it through so bad?

Fire Dog Lake’s website pointed out who benefits and it ain’t us. They are not Right Wingers.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

It seems the Slaughter’s position is that hoi poloi simply won’t make good choices – that we little people need Granny Sam to help guide us.

Yes, and I think she called it “cruel”.

Her thought process is about as deep as a Dixie Cup.

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Sure, Ryan wins. I’m a big Ryan fan. But the most useful takeaway from the discussion is the big stupid lies that the Dems will repeat over and over and over and over and over and over

and over and over and over

and over and over and over and over and over and over

and over again

and again

and again

and so on

when anyone gets anywhere near Ryan’s actually quite conservative and progressive (in the plain language sense of the terms) treatment of entitlements. They’re going to accuse him and anyone behind him of being an evil conservative trying to throttle grandma and they’re going to say it over and over and over…

well, you get the picture

CK MacLeod on March 20, 2010 at 2:43 PM

Louise is a fluffy little thing isn’t she. Puts me in mind of the of the President of the Ladies Altar Guild in a
British sit com. She’d be a shoo in in that role.

jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 2:43 PM

It doesn’t have anything I would describe as wide spread Public Support…so why do they want to jam it through so bad?

P-O-W-E-R G-R-A-B

capitalist piglet on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Pelosi thinks she has the votes if she is dropping the charade of Demon Pass…

d1carter on March 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Or her hands are tied by two big Dems saying no way to Demon Pass and there is too much inertia to stop the voting on the bill.

WashJeff on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM

This can only mean that they now have enough votes to pass the senate bill. Things are not looking good.

they may (have the votes to pass the recon bill(I have doubt), but there is no guarantee it will stand up in the Senate. not sure the House is willing to live with the Senate bill as law – cement shoes from those taxed labor leaders are very uncomfortable…

runner on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM

From The Corner:

“UPDATE: A senior GOP staffer on the Rules Committee e-mails me with this:

Very interesting. Not sure what this means about their vote count. They were clearly facing revolt on this, too. They must have decided to take care of the easy one first.”

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Exposure tomorrow. Now those cowards can’t hide and we’ll all know how they voted and we won’t forget all summer long on the campaign trail.

yoda on March 20, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Pelosi thinks she has the votes if she is dropping the charade of Demon Pass…

d1carter on March 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM

Or she simply locked herself into a box and has no choice but for the vote. If she holds it off, she loses outright and forthwith. Her tactics were flawed, and now she’s stuck.

The flurry of ‘news’ today is a lot of hysteria, on both sides. I recommend to forget the news in its fullest, but rather pick-and-choose. Watch, maybe, for the pattern?

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 2:45 PM

I’m telling you Ryan is a freakin rock-star! Every time this guy gets a chance at the plate he knocks it outta the park.

Probably too young and without the requisite foreign policy creds (which until Obama aws deemed of import) for 2012, but this guy is going places. Unless of course Obama and his cohort of progressives have us in penurious subjugation in their totalitarian dystopia by that point.

The battle for the soul of America between the collectivists & the individualists is the difference between the cusp of calamity, or the permanant pummelling of the progressives to the ash heap of American history.

The fate of our nation is playing out before our eyes, I vascilate sheer terror and delirious optimism with each twist of the HCR saga.

Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Nancy needed first-year law student crr6 on her team to assure the skeptical congresspeople that Demon Pass was clearly legal and constitutional.

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

OMG…these dumbleheads are going to be in charge of my healthcare? OMG.

Bishop on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Looks a if Wezzie slaughter just can’t sink her TEETH into this….

justonevictory on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:19 PM

excellent taste my friend :)

cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 2:32 PM

cmsinaz: It describes this Alice in Wonderland,Kangeroo
style brain dead Slaughter video escapade!!:)

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

The Corner

Unruly [Yuval Levin]

On Capitol Hill today, while Speaker Pelosi has been working to get the votes she needs behind the scenes, the House Rules Committee has been meeting to produce the rule for tomorrow’s vote. Because the actual substance of the rule is being decided elsewhere by the Speaker (as many Hill Republicans had suspected, Pelosi seems to be using the rule as a negotiating chip with some of her wavering members, and may well give up on “deem and pass” to appear to be giving them something in return for their vote), the long committee meeting (whicih is still going on, live C-SPAN coverage can be found here) instead turned into a wide-ranging discussion of the health-care bill itself. The Democrats have not come off well in that debate.

Most worthwhile so far has been Paul Ryan’s testimony from this morning (you can watch it here), and his exchange with some Democratic members of the committee about his own plan compared to theirs (here). And then of course (as Dan notes below) there was Alcee Hastings’s comment in defense of the Democrats’ approach:

I wish that I had been there when Thomas Edison made the remark that I think applies here: “There ain’t no rules around here, we’re trying to accomplish something.” And therefore, when the deal goes down, all this talk about rules, we make them up as we go along.

Hastings is, needless to say, a longtime member of the House Rules Committee.

If only it mattered. But the real action, of course, is going on elsewhere—mostly in the Speaker’s office, where Pelosi is searching for her last few votes. It’s clear she doesn’t have them yet. Let us hope it stays that way.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

From Red State:

Patriots and Iowans Have a New Target: Bill Braley – Backing Off His Yes
Swamp_Yankee Saturday, March 20th at 1:13PM EDT (link)
Worried about medicare cuts. Same issue as DeFazio, I think, reimbursements.

http://www.kcci.com/news/22894520/detail.html

If your in Iowa, its your moral duty to call Braley’s offices all day, even show up and rally around his offices.

http://www.twitter.com/swamp_yank

SheetAnchor on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

This breaks while poor Ed is doing his show, and AP hasn’t struggled out of bed yet….

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Deem and pass is dead slaughter solution is dead

Reversal: Democrats Abandon “Slaughter Solution” Under Pressure from GOP

http://centristnetblog.com/daily-news/reversal-democrats-abandon-slaughter-solution-under-pressure-from-gop/

Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Very interesting. Not sure what this means about their vote count. They were clearly facing revolt on this, too. They must have decided to take care of the easy one first.”

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Think The Tea Party folks are assembling into the People’s House? I know they were protesting on the West Lawn of the Capitol. I heard they were going inside to knock on some doors also.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Why is Louise Slaughter wearing a dead bird on her head? Oh nevermind. That’s her hair. Who elected the crazy cat lady to congress anyway?

bitsy on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

BOEHNER/RYAN 2012!

Go for it!

percysunshine on March 20, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Reverse the ticket and I’ll jump on it.

Boehner brings the experience, but Ryan brings the fire. We need the fire more than the experience… but the experience helps.

Chaz706 on March 20, 2010 at 2:49 PM

New Article: Reversal: Democrats Abandon “Slaughter Solution” Under Pressure from GOP http://bit.ly/c4LjOd

Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 20, 2010 at 2:49 PM

One of the Green Room Folks is blogging this “The Other McCain”

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:49 PM

I agree with Chaz706. I love Ryan, he is a rising star, for sure. and can he argue!!!!

immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Pelosi thinks she has the votes if she is dropping the charade of Demon Pass. . .

No, she realizes that deem and pass would actually subtract from the total of Yes votes–not that she has enough now, of course. The bill is going to be defeated, so there’s no point in giving cover to Democrats on the bubble who vote Yes. Most of these fence-sitters will end up voting No anyway, to go with the flow.

Emperor Norton on March 20, 2010 at 2:50 PM

If you take any risks, and take initiative, you are punished, and it’s getting much worse with the current Jacobin Barackobin leadership.

updated

Fallen Sparrow on March 20, 2010 at 2:50 PM

QUESTION: I cannot bear to watch the news. I hear on MM’s site that Demon Pass is dead. What does that mean? They have to vote on the Senate Bill by itself? Does that mean they have the votes they need for that? This whole things has been a nightmare. I have been praying a lot, if it is God’s will, to stop this thing.

immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Did you catch her “..blue bird of happiness” remark.

jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Proud to be a Badger every time I hear Ryan drop knowledge on the idiots he’s surrounded by.

jamie gumm on March 20, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Deem and pass is dead slaughter solution is dead

Reversal: Democrats Abandon “Slaughter Solution” Under Pressure from GOP

http://centristnetblog.com/daily-news/reversal-democrats-abandon-slaughter-solution-under-pressure-from-gop/

Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 20, 2010 at 2:47 PM

So it looks like our Republic still works..for now.

Electrongod on March 20, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

The Dems need the victory for Obama, seeking validation of their policies for 50 years. They elected the first black president, so in their soft bigotry need him to come through to prove a point–that point being they are ‘progressive’.

Except they elected a man not up to the job. Libs see this as a statement, because I think they had no other black candidate. Realistically–who else could they have run? Sharpton, Jackson? Too tainted.

So, the Dems have to make this work. Andrea Mitchell, and Obow himself, have both said that failure to pass this will destroy Obow’s presidency. And that will.

Note, too, the ‘out’ Pelosi and Reid have–both of them being rich whites: It’s called Obamacare for a reason. If it dumps, it’s on Obow. Reid and Pelosi–both rich white folk–have the escape that they were ‘supporting their president’.

See where this can go?

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

I have been praying a lot, if it is God’s will, to stop this thing.

immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM

A place to pray with like-minded people…

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=usa

143 virtual candles lit in prayer for our country. Join us.

UnderstandingisPower on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Ryan/Bachmann 2012

If you endorse the ticket you are invited to my place for a giant BBQ, swimming, ATV and dirt bike riding, and general mayhem.

Bishop on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

VIEW from the Speaker’s Lobby at noon today of the incredible crowd rallying against this #HCR bill.

How nice our elected officials get to see what an engaged electorate looks like :)

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

It’s all brilliant sounding for policy wonks. But the FACT of the matter is, most American’s ARE NOT policy wonks. They listen to this and they still hear the democrats wanting to help more people.

People in power on the right aren’t willing to come out bare knuckled and sock these Marxists in the mouth the the cold hard truth that what they are deliberately trying to do is create a larger dependency class, and that they will bankrupt this nation, stealing away any hope for financial advancement of the common man. They will stick it to the wealthy indeed, and they will also insure fewer and fewer people can ever join the ranks of the wealthy.

flyfishingdad on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Major Garrett says she was losing votes with deem and pass and by dropping it solidified enough votes to pass it. Fox has been wrong about the count so I pray he is wrong.

sandee on March 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Nancy needed first-year law student crr6 on her team to assure the skeptical congresspeople that Demon Pass was clearly legal and constitutional.

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

ROFLMAO!!! Now c’mon. I hardly think watching seasons 1, and 2 of Boston Legal, on blue ray constitutes law school! LOL

capejasmine on March 20, 2010 at 2:57 PM

flyfishingdad on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

No, I think Ryan does a terrific job of pulling out his main points and zeroing in on their misunderstandings.

The Dems look incompetent and at a loss.

INC on March 20, 2010 at 2:57 PM

So our options are: Medicare goes bankrupt and we have nothing. Or we switch to this new system that doesn’t go bankrupt and leave us with nothing.

Hmmm…

That’s a tough one, Dems. Really. It is.

OH, and that comment Slaughter made about it being “cruel”… wow! She has so much faith in us. That is the Dems philosophy… They are too stupid and inept to take care of themselves. We must do it for them.

Condescending elitist snobs! All of them!

UnderstandingisPower on March 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Ryan/Bachmann 2012

If you endorse the ticket you are invited to my place for a giant BBQ, swimming, ATV and dirt bike riding, and general mayhem.

Bishop on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Date and time please. That’s a ticket I could really get behind.

Knucklehead on March 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Nice:
I’ll save that for when I do some reloading and beer drinkin’.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Deem and Pass dropped? Does that mean they have the votes?

Or does it mean they need some other way of getting the votes (like an executive order bribe?).

This was not a good weekend to give up psilocybin mushrooms.

Mr. Joe on March 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Oh, and another point, if you please will:

Electing a black president should be evidence that America at last has gone past Jim Crow, become a better nation. But no! Instead, any political opposition is somehow racist.

We are either racist for opposing a president’s policies on political grounds, or we’re NOT racist because we elected a president of color.

Which is it?

Just other thoughts, Citizen. Most for those leaning Left.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Poor Obama, if he was just able to appoint Congressmen to their seats for life, they wouldn’t have to deal with the voters back home and ObamaCare would be the law of the land.

Man, what a messed up country we live in.

ConservativeTony on March 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM

I just know I’m getting really weary of the ‘bad insurance companies’ meme. Guess it’s true but they really need something more original. Some Congresswoman from MD(Edwards?) was just interviewed on FOX and her answer to every single question was along the lines of ‘We need this vote for the American people to protect them from the insurance companies’. Didn’t matter what the question was. Are these really robots elected to spout the Party line and they have a little on and off switch somewhere.

jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM

From my figures, about 75% of Americans (conservative figure) are being disenfranchised by this Congress and this president.
And I wish they’d invent a lower-lower case “p” that I could use for spelling president; The lowest case “p” we have now, just isn’t low enough.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM

They don’t want to look at facts of policy that will work without taking over the healthcare industry. IT IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE!

truetexan on March 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Romney / Ryan 2012!

Star20 on March 20, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Nancy needed first-year law student crr6 on her team to assure the skeptical congresspeople that Demon Pass was clearly legal and constitutional.

notropis on March 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM

I can’t buy Six is a law student. Her ‘arguments’ aren’t those of someone studying law. To be a lawyer, in the first place, you have to have a basis within your personality to be able to argue at Bar. I find no evidence of that.

I will say, however, Six does go to law school–only in that she attends a school that offers Law as part of the curriculum. Doesn’t mean she’s enrolled in it.

Semantics, with a good dose of sophistry.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:06 PM

TALKING to the Marxists/Progressives like Becerra and Slaughter is like talking to a pile of _____.

Does this total _____ ____ Becerra not realize that there won’t be benefits for seniors?

It’s the same freaking plan that members of Congress have?


God help this Republic
!!!!!!

****”every senior is guaranteed a FREAKING DEATH PANEL!!!”

PappyD61 on March 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM

This clip is simply more evidence that the Dems are not interested in solving problems in a common sense way but only want to create greater dependency to broaden their constituent base.

WordsMatter on March 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Bishop on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

MMMMMMMMMMM!
Water and dirt: MUD!!!
I’m bringin’ beer.

Cybergeezer on March 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Artur Davis says it will pass but the vote is close, but TARP felt closer… Stupak about cushion…

http://3.ly/0CCU

ninjapirate on March 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Just other thoughts, Citizen. Most for those leaning Left.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:00 PM

That goes back to Orwellian Speak which Progressives are very good at. This health insurance reform is going to raise premiums, No one has challenged that statement. So who is going to be able to get better access to health insurance again?

That’s the selling point, they will cover more people, and make health insurance more accessible…How through hiring 14,000 IRS works to fine the people who don’t buy health insurance – that we have been told premiums will go up on? Where are all the Medical People going to come from to service all these new people in the system? It never survives a closer inspection past their sound bites.

I guess this proposed Health Insurance Reform Bill serves some purpose but it’s not for the good of the citizenry of the United States.

Dr Evil on March 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM

There was a very interesting generational conflict in that clip. Ryan, like myself, being in Gen X, has been forced to realize that the government doesn’t have a magic-money machine it can use to satisfy everyone and has to make tough choices in a competitive world and that the more Gen Xers pay into these Ponzi schemes, the more we are being ripped off.

Dinosaurs like Slaughter and Levin still think we live in a world where the US government has infinite resources and can pile on promise after promise with no negative effect, just like GM could make promise after promise to the UAW.

Beccera just sounds like an idiot complaining that 90% of people will have to pay taxes to fund the thing. Hey, dumb*ss, it’s an entitlement program, why shouldn’t most of the population pay in to the kitty to fund it?

History will tell who’s right, but I’m betting on it being Ryan.

venividivici on March 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Anybody but Romney / Ryan 2012!

Star20 on March 20, 2010 at 3:06 PM

FIFY

ConservativeTony on March 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Thats an awesome video clip.

CriticalUpdate on March 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM

This dingbat is out of her league…

StevefromMKE on March 20, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Slaughter in confusion,says,her plan,or thee plan will
cover 32 million compared to Ryans 3 million,ah…um..
it sounds like she’s shoot’n for 29 million more un
registered Democrats!!(sarc).

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Heh. I messed that up. This is much better: BOO! Romney BOO!

But he has my vote if he’s the nominee. :}

ConservativeTony on March 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Would love to see a debate between Ryan and Hopey!!

Battle of Articulation!!

canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM

I can’t buy Six is a law student. Her ‘arguments’ aren’t those of someone studying law. To be a lawyer, in the first place, you have to have a basis within your personality to be able to argue at Bar. I find no evidence of that.

I will say, however, Six does go to law school–only in that she attends a school that offers Law as part of the curriculum. Doesn’t mean she’s enrolled in it.

Semantics, with a good dose of sophistry.

Liam on March 20, 2010 at 3:06 PM

In defense of her status as a law student, during one back and forth with her I was able to triangulate to the fact that her law school is definitely second, maybe third, tier. She’s just an idiot with a low undergrad GPA and crappy LSAT scores. No shortage of those in law school, that’s for sure.

Not to play the credentials game, but until he got elected to the Illinois senate, my resume was more impressive than Obama’s, by any objective standard and that includes his HLS degree. I just happen to be a white guy without an exotic background and the desire to deliver vacuous speeches for a living.

venividivici on March 20, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Ryan/Bachmann 2012

If you endorse the ticket you are invited to my place for a giant BBQ, swimming, ATV and dirt bike riding, and general mayhem.
Bishop on March 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM

I’m in! Way past my dirt bike days but the BBQ and general mayhem got me.

Vince on March 20, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Slaughter is a world class cupid stunt.apologies to cupid stunts everywhere.

nukeemnow on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

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