Updates on ObamaCare for Saturday morning
posted at 11:05 am on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Seperately, these may not warrant posts, but together, well … they may still not warrant a post, but I’m writing it anyway. Expect this to get updated as the day rolls along.
Barrow’s a no: Rep. John Barrow (D-GA) doesn’t surprise too many by opposing Obamacare:
“I am strongly in favor of reforming the health care system, but I don’t think this bill is going to do it, and therefore I can’t support it. It puts too much of the burden of paying for it on working folks who are already being overcharged, and that’s not fair. It threatens to overwhelm Medicaid in Georgia, and that’s not right. And it barely touches the insurance companies, and that’s not smart. We can do better and I’m ready to start.”
He’s a Blue Dog in a red state. If he had voted to support it, that would have been news.
Don’t call us, we’ll call you: Henry Cuellar has caller-ID, and when it says “Axelrod,” he lets it go to voice mail:
Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), who’s yet to announce how he’ll vote on a healthcare bill before the House this weekend, said he opted not to respond to Obama administration entreaties on healthcare.
“The White House called, I decided not to return their phone calls,” Cuellar said during an appearance on Fox News. “I’m going to see the president later this afternoon.”
Cuellar is a likely yes. He voted for the House bill in November but hasn’t been closely associated with pushbacks against the Senate version. His meeting with Obama today will almost certainly mean he’ll vote with Pelosi, where he’s been expected to land all along.
The Immigrant (Siren) Song: Luis Gutierrez has been a yes, a no, and a maybe for the last couple of weeks. Now he’s a yes again, as expected … as long as immigration reform comes next:
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), chairman of the Hispanic Caucus Immigration Task Force, said Saturday that he was ensured that the White House would put a renewed focus on comprehensive immigration reform as his vote on the healthcare bill went from “yes” to “no” to “yes” again. …
Gutierrez said his shift to “yes” was influenced by bipartisan efforts at immigration reform that have been blessed by the Obama administration.
“Thursday afternoon we saw the blueprint that was issued by Graham and Schumer,” Gutierrez said. “The White House embraced it … there are other steps that are being taken.”
Did Gutierrez recall that Graham declared immigration reform “dead” if the Senate tried using reconciliation and the House used deem-and-pass? Or does he just need a little political cover for now? I’m guessing the latter.
The Chicago Two Way: When two Dems go to war, one is all that Pelosi can score:
Two Chicago Democrats, Rep. Dan Lipinski and Rep. Mike Quigley, are a microcosm of the dilemma for the Obama White House and Democratic House leaders as they head to a Sunday showdown vote.
The anti-abortion Lipinski won’t vote for the measure as it stands. He told me stricter bans are needed to ensure no federal money is channeled to clinics providing abortions or to insurance plans offering abortions. While some Catholic groups have signed on to the Obama plan, the nation’s bishops have not.
And in a surprise to Democratic vote-counters, Quigley, an abortion-rights supporter, said Friday night Obama can’t count on his support if a deal is made with the anti-abortion bloc to get to 216. Moreover, Quigley wants to strip out anti-abortion language already in the legislation.
Which brings us to …
Don’t call us, we’ll call you (reprise): This is either really good news, or really bad news:
A group of pro-choice women just exited the Speaker’s office and said that another vote on the Stupak language is not going to happen.
Reportedly, Bart Stupak canceled a press conference that was supposed to take place at 11 am ET. That was seen as a signal that he had cut a deal with Nancy Pelosi on getting a vote for reinserting his ban on federal funding for abortions. It looks as if the pro-abortion caucus has scotched that deal. That could mean that Pelosi will fall short — or that she doesn’t need Stupak to get to 216.
I Have Had Enough of You!: It seems that Stupak has left the building, so to speak, according to NRO:
Two pro-life GOP members close to Stupak tell NRO that any Stupak deals are off. They just spoke with him and they said he’s finished with Pelosi. They rejected his enrollment corrections proposal.
I’d bet that means that Pelosi figured she’d lose more than she’d gain if she caved to Stupak this time. That may still mean she has the votes, but the effort to keep Stupak in the fold says Pelosi wasn’t confident of that.
This is an ex-parrot: Was Henry Waxman chortling with glee, or hiding his tears, when he confirmed this?
A top House Democrat says party leaders are unlikely to cut a deal with abortion opponents to pass President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.
Rep. Henry Waxman tells The Associated Press that “the likely outcome” is that Speaker Nancy Pelosi will move ahead without the votes of a group of abortion opponents who want tougher restrictions in the bill against taxpayer funding for the procedure.
Waxman is a big abortion supporter, so I doubt he’s unhappy to see Stupak shut down. However, if it kills his health-care bill, Waxman may end up shedding a few tears over the radical nature of the Democrats in protecting future federal funding of abortion. (via William Amos)
Prepare for the Slaughter: Stacy McCain gets an e-mail from a GOP staffer on the Hill:
UPDATE 11:27 a.m. ET: E-mail from GOP House leadership aide:
See floor schedule for the House today (from Hoyer’s office)… last vote should be 3-ish. Rules Committee is meeting now to write the rule for tomorrow’s reconciliation bill… we expect it will include the “Slaughter Solution” deeming the Senate bill passed and making Obamacare law. . . .
Things are tight . . . DO NOT let up on your efforts.
Yes, but the vote count is on that bill anyway. If Pelosi doesn’t have the votes for the reconciliation bill — which is what’s coming to the floor tomorrow — then the Senate bill won’t be “deemed” anything. We knew the Democrats would stick with the Demon Pass strategy; it’s all they have.
The Liege Lord says yes: Baron Hill is best known for attempting to live up to his name in telling his constituents that he won’t tolerate them telling him how to run his meetings. Now Hill has decided that he doesn’t care what they think about ObamaCare, either:
Regarding abortion concerns, I have thoroughly reviewed the language prohibiting federal funding of abortion services and my conscience is clear that both reform bills accomplish the same goal — no taxpayer funds can be used to pay for elective abortions.
When the roll is called, I will proudly cast my vote in support of a bill that covers thirty-two million Americans, allows all Americans to access a private insurance exchange similar to the one offered to me and my colleagues, stops the abusive practices of insurance companies, and accomplishes those goals in a fiscally-responsible manner.
This is no big surprise, either. Hill was never thought of as a real candidate to stand up to Nancy Pelosi. Just don’t videotape him making that statement …
Doug Hoffman has a new commercial: Bill Owens owes his seat to the special election in NY-23 and the disastrous selection of Dede Scozzafava by county GOP chairs. He won’t get to enjoy it long:
Reps. Bill Owens (D-N.Y.) and Baron Hill (D-Ind.) said they would vote for healthcare legislation this weekend, while Rep. John Barrow (D-Ga.) said he would vote against it.
Owens ran on skepticism over the ObamaCare plan, then immediately embraced it once he was elected. This is also not a surprise to anyone except the people in NY-23 who bought his “moderate, independent” schtick last year.
More to come …









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The American Experiment
The American Experiment who?
The American Experiment may not be over. Yet.
Mr. Joe on March 20, 2010 at 11:56 AM
With people like Pence and Ryan on our side, there is still hope. Even if ObamaCare passes.
I am confident they will unpass it.
ConservativeTony on March 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM
I swear the tension is so thick I might just throw myself out of a window. Realize, of course, this is strictly a ceremonial act since I live in a single story home built on a slab, the fall would be three feet tops.
Cindy Munford on March 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Politico.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM
The new thinking among our Congress people seems to be ‘the longer I pretend to agonize before I vote yes, the more likely I am to be forgiven’.
jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM
I can’t believe they’re going to use the Deem-n-Pass gyration. What whimps. The level of “by any means necessary” at work in this is amazing, and deeply disheartening.
Cable News Channel watch:
FNC: Cavuto going health care wall to wall at the Capitol.
MSNBC: Sandra Bullock.
CNN: Iran holding man hostage.
pvolcko on March 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM
AOSHQ update.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Please keep posting folks, I will need to catch up later. Our grandaughter is in a play today, and is playing the part of Charlie Crist.
No wait, it’s charlie and the chocloate factory, she is an oompa loompa
KEEP FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY!
JusDreamin on March 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Blood Red Ohio…woo-hoo!!!
And as one who lives in Kookcinich’s district, I hope my vote in November will be the one to send him packing.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM
I of course can’t give an exact number but I am sure that the majority of Americans are suffering severly from the anger of watching the Democrats, in effect, trying to blow up America.
Basil Fawlty on March 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Fox News has live streaming of the Tea Party Rally today. Just click at the top of Fox News website. Lots of fired up folks from across USA! They said they will surround the Capitol later today at 5 pm. About time! They will also go and meet Congress members face to face shortly.
sarahpalinfan99 on March 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM
You really ought to consider running for office in DC. You have an innate gift.
jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM
W, after what happened with that “memo”, I would double check anything you get from Politico.
ConservativeTony on March 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Damn, Bart. You almost gave me a heart attack over the last couple of days!!! LOL.
Ryan Anthony on March 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Tx, SarahPalinFan. God bless all the people who went to D.C.
Watching right now while I make brownies for my DIL’s 40th birthday today.
MMMMMMMM, brownies.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM
I assume it was a slip of the tongue on Waxman’s part. They could never win an up or down vote on the Senate bill. They have to hide it as deemed in the rule.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Phil Klein from Amspec.
It wasn’t a slip of the tongue? They are not going the deem route but for a straight vote????
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM
NRO
notropis on March 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM
I think it was a lie. I think he refers to the “deem” as voting on the Senate bill. You can never trust Waxman.
d1carter on March 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM
The Dems have truly become The Party of Death: if they don’t kill you as an unborn child, they may kill you as a senior citizen.
These people are sheer evil.
Josiah on March 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM
I listened to the whole thing Wethal, and yes, it was nothing but a slip of Waxman’s tongue. He sat there with a grin on his face the whole time he was lying to the committee—quite typical of liberals these days.
Rovin on March 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Maybe my stress and angst would shut up if I fed it some chocolate.
TXMomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM
???? an executive order that would amend a law????
If they pass the Senate version, an executive order amends the Senate language to Stupak? Would he fall for that? An EO can be changed at any time, anyway.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Well, I guess we find out when they vote on the rule language.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Looks like Henry has been channeling Mark Levin.
katy on March 20, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Admit to not having the mind of a politician but in my superficial opinion this is a stalemate. Either one side or the other is not going to give no matter when how they deal with the issue. It’s become some kind of principle/power game. They are now treating each other as they treat us…re: Our way or no way!
jeanie on March 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I finally got through to my Congressman’s office–Nye (VA-02). He’s still “undecided.” He, er his staff of 10, is going through the bill. *sigh*
An interesting note: the staff member said that the Federal takeover of the student loan program has already been passed. Huh? But why it needs to be put in this bill, I don’t understand. HR 3221. I looked it up and can’t find anything recent that says it was passed, only in 2008.
Does anyone else know about this or can clarify this for me? I’d like to call him back if this is erroneous information.
conservative pilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Brownies and chocolate….heck I’m breaking out the cheesecake!!!!!
yoda on March 20, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Some of the tossups have clues
No links just the stories
William Amos on March 20, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Hey, TXMom, chocolate cures all ills.
Good thing I bought two packages. One for the DIL; one for me, with chocolate frosting. lol
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM
I don’t think the takeover has been passed. They needed the “savings” from the takeover to reduce the cost of Obamacare to game the CBO numbers. That’s why it was folded into reconciliation.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM
This bunch of leaders came from the sixties, and they never grew up!!!
mobydutch on March 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM
http://teapartypatriots.org/patriots.aspx
@philatppatriots tweeted:
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
NRO. Stahlkamper got pregnant in college and decided to keep the baby, as I recall.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
I am from Indiana and I just called Hill’s local number. He is one of the few people whose line is not entirely tied up. But then again, I called his office in Bloomington. I told him that his claims that this bill provided health coverage for 32 million Americans is a lie, it just throws half of those people on medicaid and forces the other half to buy insurance. I also told him that he had a choice between doing what was best for the people of Indiana and kissing Pelosi’s butt and he puckered right up and gave Nancy what she wanted. I added that I sincerely hoped he got kicked out of office next November.
This state is already laying off teachers and making medicaid cuts to balance the budget, there is no way hoosiers can meet this mandate without going in the hole.
Terrye on March 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Jeff Goldstein nails it with this.
Do not count on the Supreme Court, this must be stopped now. And if not, and “deem and pass” gets this mess through, then by immediate civil disobedience.
Mr. Joe on March 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
NRO. Stahlkamper got pregnant in college and decided to keep the baby, as I recall.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Dahlkemper.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
OK. I’ve got some questions and hopefully some of you lovely people have some answers. Mainly on procedural stuff.
1) How many votes are there tomorrow and what do they mean? From what I gather, there are two votes. The first would be a vote on the reconciliation bill. 2) But if they pass that does it then have to go back to the Senate where they would vote and only need 51 votes to pass it? 3) And then does the reconciliation bill even matter if they deem the Senate bill passed later?
Maybe the Deemon-crats have just scheduled two votes to cover their butts. Frankly, I’m done trying to figure out how their liberal brains function.
If anyone has insight let me know!
laurakbarr on March 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Out: Government healthcare.
In: ChocoCare™!
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
What a schmoozer. And also, ew.
All right, ladies–diversion: which President would you like to receive a kiss on the cheek from?
My pick? President Paul Ryan, 2012. Second choice, President John Boehner. Also 2012.
If I had to pick a second President–ummmm–W, I guess. For the nice fatherly quality to it. ;)
Grace_is_sufficient on March 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
OK. I’ve got some questions and hopefully some of you lovely people have some answers. Mainly on procedural stuff.
1) How many votes are there tomorrow and what do they mean? From what I gather, there are two votes. The first would be a vote on the reconciliation bill. 2) But if they pass that does it then have to go back to the Senate where they would vote and only need 51 votes to pass it? 3) And then does the reconciliation bill even matter if they deem the Senate bill passed later?
Maybe the Deemon-crats have just scheduled two votes to cover their butts. Frankly, I’m done trying to figure out how their liberal brains function.
If anyone has insight let me know!
laurakbarr on March 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Real simple, they will vote on the ‘reconciliation’ bill, but the Senate Bill will be attached. If they pass the vote, the Senate Bill goes to Obama where it becomes the law of the land. The reconcilation part goes back to the Senate where it could pass or fail. If it fails, the current Senate bill will not be changed and will remain the law of the land.
The vote tomorrow is on the Senate bill, period. If they pass it, that is what we get. There will be no urgency in the Senate or with Obama to ‘fix’ anything.
tatersalad on March 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
I’m reading that waxman said Congress isn’t going to do the deem and pass method but vote on the Senate bill. If they do it that way they will have to have 2 votes. Then Congress has to rely on the Senate to pass the reconcilliation bill.
From what Boehner was saying about the amendments to the reconcillation bill they have to stay night and day until they tire out. He said probably about 2 1/2 to three days.
Brat4life on March 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM
ChocoCare™!
I’d pay good money for that.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM
The House thinks it can pass a rule that deems the Senate bill adopted. Presumably the Senate bill is whipped over to Obama to sign. Then the House passes the reconciliation bill.
The reconciliation bill goes to the Senate. If it passes it unchanged, then the Senate bill is amended by reconciliation. Obama signs the reconciliation bill.
If the Senate changes the reconciliation bill (and the GOP says it can), then it has to go back to the House for another vote. The only bill actually passed and signed into law then would be the unchanged Senate bill, until the House and Senate pass the same reconciliation bill.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Also I heard that if the Senate changes the reconciliation bill that the house has to vote on it again. So then the house members will have to vote on this twice.
Brat4life on March 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM
And the Senate GOP is lying in wait to change the reconciliation bill, so they could end up voting three times. Heh.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
I just want to know how they can justify this with the Commerce Clause when there is no interstate commerce regarding health insurance.
darwin on March 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Anybody watching live streaming of the rally? Who is the woman (former Marine) speaking right now? Wow…she’s hammering Obama.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Hence Orrin’s Hatch assertions that the House Dems are “nuts” if they think they’re voting on this once.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM
At least 25,000 descend on DC to protest Obamacare. See pics from today here:
http://centristnetblog.com/daily-news/at-least-25000-protesters-descend-on-congress-to-protest-obamacare/
NBC, of course, is under-reporting turnout and claiming only 2000 are present.
Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM
She was amazing! I missed the intro, so I don’t know her name, but wow!
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yb7walp Jeff Goldstein nails it with this.
This needs to be stopped. It is not exaggeration to say the country is in peril.
Mr. Joe on March 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM
I’m still lighting up their phones.
McMahon’s DC staffer says “likely no in its present form.”
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 12:55 PM
November is Coming…
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Treason, plain and simple.
ultracon on March 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM
UPDATE II: Rep. Diana Degette (D., Co.) confirms to NRO that there will be no second vote on abortion language.
From The Hill:
Stupak still commands more than seven votes against the bill, said Rep. Dan Lipinksi (D-Ill.).
“They’re still short on votes,” said Lipinski, a Stupak confederate. “There’s still time and they still need votes.”
03/20 12:30 PM
andy85719 on March 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Here’s the original bill info, when they also “defunded” ACORN.
Here’s the new bill with modifications.
So what you’re saying is they inserted this modified bill to get their numbers under $1 TRILLION?
conservative pilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM
cavuto is stationed next to the canadian embassy…
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM
UPDATE:
http://centristnetblog.com/daily-news/hope-for-obamacare-opponents-stupak-pelosi-deal-collapses-for-now/
UPDATE: Moments ago, NBC News reported via twitter that there will be no deal between Pelosi and Stupak regarding more stringent language to stop federal funding of abortion:
Speaker Pelosi (D-Calif.) says there will be no additional abortion language in health care bill to placate Rep. Bart Stupak (D–Mich)- NBC
Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM
None of that matters if the House passes the Senate bill or “deems” it passed tomorrow, right? Obama will sign the Senate bill and it’s over. He wants to sign something, anything. Then they will move on to some over issue that will destroy our country.
conservative pilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM
On way or another, I fear she will find a way to pass the bill. She wants her legacy.
conservative pilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM
Rules committee in chaos:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Rules-Committee-meeting-descends-into-chaos-88725962.html
They have no clue what they’re doing. I can’t imagine all of this will bode well for the dems in a court case if this thing is “deemed” into law.
KSgop on March 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM
I keep trying to not get my hopes up because whenever ive counted on Democrats for anything, in the past, they have always let me down.
I cant believe the fate of the greatest nation known to man is in the hands of a few, hopefully sane, Democrats.
What has this country done to itself? 2008– the year America voted to cut its nose to spite its face.
http://alecsavestheworld.blogspot.com
alecj on March 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Oh, yes, and they left the “doctor fix” Medicare cuts in. the Medicare cuts are part of the original bill, I think. Every year they appropriate money to offset the cuts. But when CBO scored Obamacare, the doctor fix cuts were left in, even though everyone knows they get the cut money put back in another bill. CBO has to score what it’s sent.
The Dems have completely gamed the CBO scores.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Website mentioned just now at the DC Rally:
http://doctorsandpatients.org/
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Conservative Pilgrim,
They will then “deem” that 15 million illegal aliens are now US citizens, thus insuring a DemoncRAT voting majority and then “deem” Cap & Tax becomes law, then “deem” that the US Constitution is an antiquated, useless scrap of paper, then……
Well, you get the idea.
mountainmanbob on March 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM
11am Sunday in the Capitol: Church Service? ZOMG
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Jon Voight speaking now…
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Oh she’ll have her “legacy” alright. She’ll be known as the one of the leaders of the most corrupt, unethical, treasonous Congress in history.
darwin on March 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Michele Bachmann just finished speaking. Church service scheduled for 11:00 a.m., Sunday, inside the Capitol Building.
Praise God!
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Jon Voight up now.
“Obama’s bullying, arrogance, one-term president. The tracks he lays will be devastating for our country for years to come.”
PREACH IT, JON!!!
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM
LOL Capitol Cam Unavailable to The Public… perfect…
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM
I’m shocked./
Milton Wolf speaking now. Bambi’s second cousin. This should be good.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM
To-day do I bake, to-morrow I brew
The day after that my health care takeover comes in
And oh! I will be so glad that not enough knew
That the name I am called is Rumpelobamaskin!
Maybe if the Child Emperor loses he will get so mad that he will drive his right foot so far into the ground that he will create a chasm and fall into it, never to be seen again.
MB4 on March 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM
Thanks. I knew about the Doc Fix, but didn’t get it with the student loans. Yes, the Number Fix is a sham.
That won’t happen with a fight. Unfortunately.
conservative pilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM
And with no Teleprompter :o
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dr. Wolf was great. Blasted his cousin for the fool he is.
(Out of respect, I should have posted “Dr.” Milton Wolf in my first post. Sorry ’bout that.)
Rep. King, “Turn your eyes to the Lord for a victory here tomorrow.” Amen to that.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM
NBC: Thousands Rally in DC Against Iraq War
I can’t find a single significant news outlet reporting on this (other than Fox, obviously, since I’m watching their stream)… not even Drudge has anything up
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM
/fixed
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM
To the Lame Stream Media, 50,000+ people rallying against Obamacare don’t matter. In their eyes, we don’t exist. But Drudge? Don’t understand that at all.
Hey, Ugly, just went to your website. Powerful!!! Thanks.
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM
GrannyDee on March 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM
From what I hearing, 40-50 thousand! I wonder if NBC is counting some of the war protesters in their numbers? Hmm.
Thanks for checking out the site.
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM
The HC bill provides for the payment of subsidies to “aliens lawfully residing in the U.S.”
Under the Graham/Schumer “immigration reform” bill that Obama recently “blessed,” the millions of (mainly poor) illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. would immediately become “aliens lawfully residing in the U.S.” (They would have to jump through a few hoops to become citizens, but most of them don’t care about that anyway. They just want the right to stay here and get a seat on the taxpayer-funded gravy train of entitlements — which is exactly what they get under the Graham/Schumer bill).
Paying subsidies to millions of poor new “lawful aliens” so that they can purchase HC insurance will cost U.S. taxpayers many billions of dollars every year — and not a dime of that money was included in any of the phony CBO cost estimates/projections for the HC bill.
Just something to keep in mind when you hear the Democrats lying about how this POS bill is going to magically “reduce” the deficit and lower everyone’s HC bills.
AZCoyote on March 20, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Please Mr. Obama, I don’t wanna go
Hey, Mr. Obama, please don’t make me go
I had a dream last night about my comin’ medical care
Somebody said “What you’ll get is ObamaCare!’”
And there I stood with a rag in my mouth upon which to bite.
Look at them waiting lines there, they’re hardly even movin’
And there’s a bureaucrat at every one
Hey, Mr. Obama, you mind if I be excused the rest of the decade?
HEY MR MORRISSEY, DUCK YER HEAD!!
(Sound of bureaucrat’s clipboard whizzing by)
Hmm, you’re a little bit late on that one, Ed
Whooh, I bet that smarts!
Please Mr. Obama, I don’t wanna go
Listen, Mr. Obama, please don’t make me go
There’s a bureaucrat a’waitin’ out there, just fixin to decide my fate
A complainer I’ve been called cuz I don’t wanna wind up screamin’ or dead
I wonder what the Indonesian word for friend is
Let’s see-friend– kemo sabe, that’s it!
KEMO SABE!, HEY OUT THERE-KEMO SABE!
Nope, that itn’t it
Look at them durned power mad control freak fascists
They’re runnin’ around like a bunch of wild Mengeles, Emanuels and Kevorkians-heh, heh, heh
MB4 on March 20, 2010 at 2:23 PM
@michellemalkin Keep going!!! RT @DanFosterNRO: Breaking: WaPo reports Dems will drop Deem and Pass #HCR
pambi on March 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM
http://ow.ly/i/N45
VIEW from Speaker’s Lobby of the incredible crowd rallying against this bill.
pambi on March 20, 2010 at 2:26 PM
I am currently flying my American flag upside down to show that the country is in distress.
mechkiller_k on March 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Reports from WaPo via NRo and AOSHQ).
Dems are dropping Demonpass and going for a straight vote on the Senate bill???
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM
They don’t have to unpass it, they can just pass their reform plans after they take back congress and let Obama veto them. Then pass them again in 2013 and have President (insert whoever here) sign them.
uknowmorethanme on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Hmmm… Wanted to check the TV for the status of the health care takeover battle. Turn on the TV, but the FoxNews channel is blank. WTF? Check all the other channels, and they’re fine. CNN has some talking head slamming the Cato institutes recent report on public education–nothing about health care (shocka’!). Interesting time for the cable company to have an FoxNews outage.
Did the lefties at the cable company block the signal from FoxNews? What else am I supposed to think?
FlatlanderByTheLake on March 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Dont know if anyone reported this yet. The Washington Post is claiming the Dems have dropped “deem and pass”.
http://alecsavestheworld.blogspot.com
alecj on March 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM
It’s not just the process in the House that is Obama’s problem. BTW, I want to be among the first to give a shout out to Mitch McConnell for telling Pelosi that it was okay with the Senate if she joined the Senate Bill and the House Reconciliation Bill together for one vote!
Since the House Reconciliation Bill will contain the Slaughter House rule change as an amendment which provides the evidence that the House has deemed and passed the Senate Bill, that Bill has to be joined once again to the Senate Bill or the Senate Bill has not been deemed and passed by the House. There is no documentation that would accompany the Senate Bill (to Obama’s desk for signature) to provide the physical evident that the House has ‘voted’ on the Senate Bill, without the House Reconciliation Bill with the rule change amendment because that is the evidence. And that Reconciliation Bill has to also be passed by the Senate, ala the need for a letter from Reid to Pelosi with the 51 signatures. Obama might think he can push ahead and sign the Senate Bill without the House Reconciliation Bill that contains the deem and pass amendment, but I don’t see how that will stand up to a court challenge.
So it might be the case that the SCOTUS won’t entertain a legal challenge to the House rules and process, but I think when it comes to the Executive Branch signing into Law of the Land a Bill that has not met the Constitutional language is right up their alley!
I predict the House is going to be forced to give an up or down vote on the Senate Bill rather than risk the Reconciliation Bill failing to pass in the Senate which would kill the ‘trick’ they would need to make the Senate Bill constitutional for Obama’s signature.
Texas Gal on March 20, 2010 at 2:40 PM
From Red State:
Patriots and Iowans Have a New Target: Bill Braley – Backing Off His Yes
Swamp_Yankee Saturday, March 20th at 1:13PM EDT (link)
Worried about medicare cuts. Same issue as DeFazio, I think, reimbursements.
http://www.kcci.com/news/22894520/detail.html
If your in Iowa, its your moral duty to call Braley’s offices all day, even show up and rally around his offices.
http://www.twitter.com/swamp_yank
SheetAnchor on March 20, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Perfectly unsinister technical problem?
Sharke on March 20, 2010 at 3:12 PM
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Well I screwed the pooch on that post.
Ugly on March 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM
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