Breaking: Dems abandon deem-and-pass
posted at 3:35 pm on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Good news or bad news? House Democrats unexpectedly dumped their Slaughter strategy of using deem-and-pass to push ObamaCare through a floor vote:
Top Democrats confirmed Saturday that the House would hold separate votes on the Senate healthcare bill and the reconciliation bill making fixes to it.
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), one of the chief deputy whips, Rep. Melvin Watt (D-N.C.), and Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), all of whom said that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) won’t use the tactic of deem and pass for healthcare reform.
The move effectively kills the “deem and pass” strategy Democrats had been eyeing to make changes to the Senate bill through a rule on the bill, which at the same time would have deemed the original Senate healthcare bill to have passed the House.
The House appears set now to move toward an up-or-down vote on the Senate healthcare bill, as well as a separate, up-or-down vote on the series of changes to that bill. There will still be a vote on the rule, as there always is for a piece of legislation, though it will not package the two bills together.
So what does this mean? Hard to say. It could be that the heat on Democrats for using DemonPass made it too difficult to hold onto votes; Pelosi may have calculated that she’d net more votes if she split the bills properly. On the other hand, it could also mean that Pelosi has all the votes she needs and no longer needs the self-executing rule to get the bill out of the House.
If anyone wonders which it is, Major Garrett of Fox News helpfully tweeted that he believes that Pelosi now has the votes for tomorrow. If that’s too pessimistic for you, remember that DemonPass was intended to protect Dems opposed to the Cadillac Tax and other issues in the Senate bill. The politics of the bill have only become more fraught since they floated that strategy, which could mean that Democrats now think it won’t pass — and need a reason for its demise other than a failure of Pelosi to whip the count. I lean more towards the former than the latter, but until the vote gets taken (or doesn’t), we won’t know for sure which applies.
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I, too, hate bigotry, but today, when the President compared the fight for healthcare to the stand on civil rights, my stomach sank. I can only imagine what he will say when we oppose amnesty. Please, Mr. President, our country is being torn apart, don’t goad the American people.
mobydutch on March 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM
The bozo speaking right now is saying Tea party people were spitting and swearing, using the ‘N’ word at politicians… These people are despicable. LIAR!
The lefties were doing this. They infiltrated the TP crowd.
katy on March 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM
You missed the vinegar and water comment and douchebag…
…. never mind.
:O)
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Now, this is way off topic, and I don’t know if it’s been said yet, but didn’t Obozo pick Kansas to win it all?
Where’s Kansas now?
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 8:21 PM
he picked kansas and nova for the final four…and they both are back on the bus
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 8:23 PM
lovingmyUSA on March 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM
Drink hardy my friend.. My wife and I are heading down to the river to catch a few trout for supper. A bottle of wine will act as our bait for each other… Worms will have to do for the trout. Tomorrow we’ll all be back here sitting this one out. Until then, enjoy your Saturday night comrades.
Thanks for the kind words Katy… :-)
Keemo on March 20, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Sooooo…
How about a nice game of chess?
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Seven Percent Solution:Loved that movie,heres another
movie,of computer gone bad!!:)
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Colossus – The Forbin Project (1970) Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQjebwUrhvc
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:23 PM
katy on March 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM
I think we need a “Live Feed Open Thread” to get us through the night…
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 8:23 PM
He picked Kansas to win the whole shootin’ match didn’t he?
thomasaur on March 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM
canopfor, Love Alice Cooper!
sandee on March 20, 2010 at 7:43 PM
sandee:)
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM
He picked Kansas to win the whole shootin’ match didn’t he?
thomasaur on March 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM
He and about 50 million other people
CWforFreedom on March 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM
I think so….
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM
Omen.
He lost 3 Elections.
An Olympic Bid.
Copenhagen Climate Summit.
A Superbowl.
And now this.
What is his Record? Zero Wins and 57 Losses?
Holger on March 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Obama picked Kansas to win it all.
Kansas – meet Copenhagen, Corzine, Deeds, Coakley, Climate Change and soon…..ObamaCare.
tatersalad on March 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM
We already have opposed amnesty and they have already called us racists .
CWforFreedom on March 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Obamao. Kiss of freakin’ death.
Take heed, you lousy filth o crats.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 8:28 PM
A loss for each State. :-)
elduende on March 20, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Heh, rah rah Iowa!!! Not to pour salt….
lovingmyUSA on March 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM
A live feed of that crap will cause me to do illicit drugs.
katy on March 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM
I had Maryland taking Kansas out in the next round anyway.
thomasaur on March 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM
heh
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 8:30 PM
The rightful anger towards Hell-Care is morphing into paranoia.
blatantblue on March 20, 2010 at 7:37 PM
blatantblue:)
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The Kinks – Destroyer(Paranoia will destroy ya)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbAZVw3_7A
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Wolfen on March 20, 2010 at 8:31 PM
Brackets accross the Nation come crumbling down.
Obama picked Kansas to beat Kentucky. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Kentucky loses tomorrow as well.
The Kiss of Death that man is.
Gives me hope for Obamacare.
uknowmorethanme on March 20, 2010 at 8:31 PM
keep ‘em coming C
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 8:32 PM
Watching NCAA basketball on TV…
Arguing with nonsensical Liberals about HCR on the computer…
As long as the ‘Cuse is still in the mix I’m fine… sort of.
mjbrooks3 on March 20, 2010 at 8:32 PM
kentucky playing tonight, my bad
uknowmorethanme on March 20, 2010 at 8:33 PM
From Red State:
If you’re from Utah (hell even if you’re not) get on the phone NOW to Jim Matheson’s office.
According to FireDog Lake there are 204 yes…205 no…0 lean yes…10 lean no…and 12 undecided. If we hold the leans, Nan’s got to run the table on the undecideds. Matheson is an undecided. He’s from a +15 R district.
SheetAnchor on March 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Firedoglake’s count confuses me.
andy85719 on March 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM
anndy85719: Actually your right,when I posted it,
it came out kabotched,sorry,just click
the linky thingy!!:)
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Theres only one person we have to blame for this, jorge bush the “compassionate conservative” with his stupid Iraq excursion. If he had taken care of Iran with 5 stealth bombers from Kansas we wouldn’t be dealing with these marxists. If Gramnesty screws us now, im never listening to talk radio/ Fox again, I can’t take it.
immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Louise wrote an editorial in our paper today.A quote:
Happy alright. I’ll be happy if she loses her re-election bid this year.
NYconservative on March 20, 2010 at 8:36 PM
Haha … I resemble that remark!
Texas Gal on March 20, 2010 at 8:36 PM
Either put a sarc tag on that or piss off.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Anyone know what time tomorrow the vote is scheduled for?
mountainmanbob on March 20, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Does anyone have an accurate whip count? Last I’ve seen is Politico at 6 shy, Ace at 4 and American Thinker at 2.
Anyone?
Bueller?
Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Was anybody watching C-Span just a few minutes ago? Some Dem Rep from Ohio on the floor just asked the Repub Reps taking part in the protest today to condemn “teabaggers” protesting today. He claims(multiple times)Dem John Lewis was walking from the Capitol to his office and was “spit on and called the n-word”. How do you possibly prove or dis-prove this? Of course, he was condeming the use of derogatory terms while he used a derogatory term referencing the tea party people.
momoftxmomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Yesterday I was thiiiiis close to breaking down sobbing at work (so much for my professional image!). Today I feel oddly calm. Whatever happens in DC will happen. As helpless as I’ve felt watching this go down, calling, faxing, calling, and calling again, once the matter is decided, I will know what to do next.
Nothing violent — not because I haven’t wanted to, believe me! — but because my feeling is that whoever fires the first actual shot will lose the war. (See Ft. Sumter.) But there are other things we can do:
1. From now till November, make a vow to convert one — just one — liberal or squishy moderate. “Each one teach one”, as the socialists at the UN say. If things tank the way I think they will, all we’ll need to do is wait for the liberal to wail about something — no job, doctor has quit, huge tax bill, whatever is causing them pain — and point out how the Democrats in Washington are the author of their suffering.
2. Don’t spend our money on any liberal. No James Cameron movies (sorry, Avatar fans!), no trendy restaurants, no periodicals (read them at the library), etc.
3. Find a candidate we like, just one, and volunteer to do something for that person’s campaign. Give money, make calls, go door-to-door, donate cookies, run their Web site, etc. We all have skills and resources we can put to use.
4. Run for the piddliest local office possible. Because we all have lives, we tend not to be found in places where the busybodies go to seek ego gratification. I mean things like the local homeowners’ association, community council, PTA, church vestry, even a charity board. These local offices are where the interfering busybodies get their start. One of our butts in those seats keeps one of theirs out. We will also gain valuable knowledge in how to steer an organization.
5. For the prayerful people, pray. The only prayer I’ve got left in me is “Thy will be done, O Lord.” It was the only prayer I had left sitting at my father’s deathbed, when I felt the same odd calm after frantic fear that I feel now.
Thy will be done, Lord. Thy will be done.
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
We just got back from the rally in DC. None of what they say went on happened. The crowd was noisy, passionate and not unruly. We cleaned up our messes and the place was pristine after we left at 3. We left just in time to see Obama’s motorcade slither up to the House.
The real action was in front of the White House where the war protestors were. We were with some folks with Blackberrys and apparently 7 of those people were arrested. Including Cindy Sheehan.
40,000 up at Capitol Hill. All well behaved and their signs were not even remotely racist.
BetseyRoss on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Matheson has declared yes (AOSHQ).
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
I thought Matheson already said no.
andy85719 on March 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM
I mean NO. sorry. I’ve watching the numbers waaay too long.
Matheson is a no. nominating brother didn’t buy his vote. May have backfired.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 8:42 PM
NRO blogger says that Dems are working on an executive order to address the abortion issue…. They don’t have the votes w/o Stupak.
kringeesmom on March 20, 2010 at 8:42 PM
A meeting place for HA members…banned or otherwise…
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If, for some reason, when you are on facebook, type in:
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lovingmyUSA on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
This is stupid. It was not Bush who came up with this idea and in fact not one Republican has even supported it. If the US had gone after Iran, do you honestly think that war would have been more popular? Maybe you are just a Moby. Honestly, have you looked at Iran on a map? Do you know anything about the size of the country or how many people live there or the size of the military? The idea that we could have taken care of Iran with 5 stealth bombers or that the Congress would ever have gone along with that anyway is just pure stupid.
I am so tired of these make believe conservatives who blame everyone but the liberals for everything bad that happens.
Terrye on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
He did. I’m sorry. Been watching whip counts all day long.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
WE HAVE LOST – THIS LAND IS NO LONGER OUR LAND.
Our troubles are really just beginning. Our children and grandchildren will have to leave America to find Freedom someplace else.
We will be abandoned and alone…old, tired and a subject of a tyrannical, oppressive regime.
jay12 on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Hi, mom.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
I bet the tea party protestors yelling supposed deragatory terms are as legit as the libs who vandalize their own cars and put up nooses themselves. PPllleeease!
immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 8:44 PM
I have been following all of your posts all day and I must say what a wonderful outlet it has been to read thoughts of like minded people. Thank you!
I have a couple of quick thoughts. First, as I watch those on the left it occurs to me that many of those in the House are not the brightest bulbs in the room. (Seriously, I would love to have an IQ comparison of the Democrats and Republicans in the House. I hope this doesn’t get me banned if it is deemed a personal attack!) So, is it possible that by now allowing the Senate bill to be voted on, they have made a huge mistake? What happens if the Reconciliation passes and then the Senate bill does NOT, or visa versa? No matter which count you are following, they still do not have the votes so they seem to be going all in. Could this be their downfall? Do they even know what they are doing?
Next, if (when) it passes tomorrow, this is not over. Remember 1994. The American people were not near as fired up as they are today, yet it was a historical turn around in the House and Senate. No one is going to forget this. Here is my prediction. November will be a new historical vote. The only democrats left in the House will be from gerrymandered districts and will be powerless. I think every Democrat Senator running this year will be gone. In January 2011, the House and Senate will write a one page bill to repeal Obamacare and when he vetoes it, it will be over ruled with a 2/3 vote in both Houses. Then the Conservatives will start passing principled conservative health care legislation that we KNOW will work for the American people. Obama will have no choice but to sign it. He will become a lame duck with no power. All he will be able to do is party in the White House with Rahm and Axlerod for 2 more years, and vacation with his family for his goodbye tour.
This, my friends, is how the nightmare becomes a sweet dream! (sorry for the length, I have been quiet all day!)
texgal on March 20, 2010 at 8:44 PM
SheetAnchor on March 20, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Hamsher is usually pretty on top of these things, but that puts the count at 10 shy, not exactly clarifying things.
Never in my life have I followed the minutia of a Bill to this extent, when so much is on the line it can be draining.
Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM
katy on March 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM
I think we need a “Live Feed Open Thread” to get us through the night…
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Seven Percent Solution: Is that a live feed?
And,thanks for the link!:)
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM
I thought when they floated that earlier today, Stupak said no. He knows it can be rescinded at any time, like in 2013, after the election, when coverage actually begins.
And an exectuive order can’t amend a bill. Sebelius has made it clear that federal funds will cover abortion with an accounting gimmick.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Not the time and place for this…
lovingmyUSA on March 20, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Great post. Something that came to me the other day…
2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
katy on March 20, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 8:46 PM
How about the time he almost lost his pant and showed the world his shortcomings!!! Now that was funny.
Cindy Munford on March 20, 2010 at 8:46 PM
While we focus on the Healthcare side of this illegitimate power grab don’t forget they are also trying to nationalize the student loan industry in the same bill:
The toxic Marxist mechanism being used will in effect nationalize much of the lending in the nation -
Zero Hedge has been doing some reading into that side of the bill…
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/adventures-nationalization-central-bank-north-dakota
These people are Marxists.
elduende on March 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM
I don’t like or support this bill, but I think this is a little melodramatic. Honestly, all is not lost. Really. Whatever happens tomorrow.
Terrye on March 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Anyone know what time tomorrow the vote is scheduled for?
mountainmanbob on March 20, 2010 at 8:40 PM
High-noon I beleive, how appropo.
Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM
A Pict Song (Rudyard Kipling)
Rome never looks where she treads.
Always her heavy hooves fall,
On our stomachs, our hearts or our heads;
And Rome never heeds when we bawl.
Her sentries pass on — that is all,
And we gather behind them in hordes,
And plot to reconquer the Wall,
With only our tongues for our swords.
We are the Little Folk — we!
Too little to love or to hate.
Leave us alone and you’ll see
How we can drag down the State!
We are the worm in the wood!
We are the rot at the root!
We are the taint in the blood!
We are the thorn in the foot!
Mistletoe killing an oak –
Rats gnawing cables in two –
Moths making holes in a cloak –
How they must love what they do!
Yes — and we Little Folk too,
We are busy as they –
Working our works out of view –
Watch, and you’ll see it some day!
No indeed! We are not strong,
But we know Peoples that are.
Yes, and we’ll guide them along,
To smash and destroy you in War!
We shall be slaves just the same?
Yes, we have always been slaves,
But you — you will die of the shame,
And then we shall dance on your graves!
We are the Little Folk — we!
Too little to love or to hate.
Leave us alone and you’ll see
How we can drag down the State!
We are the worm in the wood!
We are the rot at the root!
We are the taint in the blood!
We are the thorn in the foot!
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Oh my God, we might have to do this again?
Terrye on March 20, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Sittin’ by the side of the gulch
I’ll be sittin’ when the evenin’ come
Watching the libs roll in
And then I watch ‘em roll away again, yeah
I’m sittin’ by the side of the gulch
Watching the Dems toil away
Ooo, I’m just sittin’ by the side of the gulch
jus’ bidin’ time
(Otis Redding going Galt ;-) )
Yoop on March 20, 2010 at 8:49 PM
I’ve done exactly what you suggest. I ran for city council last fall and lost. Since then I’ve gotten elected to a local “community organizing” board, the Riverside Neighborhood Partnership, and I’m the ONLY conservative on it. It’s a Asset Based Community Development based board. We’ve had three meetings since I was caucused onto it and I’m already not very popular. lol
pugwriter on March 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM
What he said.
TXMomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM
You rock the house, my friend!!!
Mary in LA on March 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM
I am sorry to the people who support Bush 100%, but he made lots of mistakes and brought us this guy, BO. I was SO excited when he won in 2004, and then, all of a sudden, it was HArriet Myers, dubai ports, amnesty……. . It has been down hill since, I am exhausted of all the fights. I don’t like what happened in Iraq, initially, OK, but afterwards: building them roads and schools on our dime, and meantime Christians are being chased and persecuted under our very noses. I have Iraqi Christian friends and they were better off under Hussein. Now, they are becoming extinct or ex-patriots. Sad.
immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 8:52 PM
I thought when they floated that earlier today, Stupak said no. He knows it can be rescinded at any time, like in 2013, after the election, when coverage actually begins.
And an exectuive order can’t amend a bill. Sebelius has made it clear that federal funds will cover abortion with an accounting gimmick.
Wethal on March 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM
I read on some page, DC Caller I beleive, that Stupak lost 6 of his 12 on the executive order promise. How anyone trusts this guy at his word anymore is beyond me. Its about to get a lot more crowded under that bus!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JUQSje_xA
Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM
HEH!
thomasaur on March 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM
It is essential that we run for local offices and influence them. Local politics are the petri dishes from which state and local politicians grow.
Even if you lose, you get a megaphone that you otherwise never would have had.
pugwriter on March 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Thank you. I will definitely take your advice. I am feeling the same as you now..pretty much numb. I’ve been out all day running the Saturday errands and got back a little while ago and have been catching up on the happenings here. Lord help us. You are sooooo right. Lord, Thy Will Be Done.
sicoit on March 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Just for the reconcilliation bill for now.
Then down the road there will be a bill for the doctor fix, and then probably single payer that we will have to fight the house on and hope the Republicans will stop this madness in Jan of next year. They said this is the start so get ready.
Brat4life on March 20, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Hi, mom.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Hi back.
I lurk and read every day but seldom post. That Dem’s statements on the floor made by BP rise and I always have low blood pressure.
momoftxmomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 8:55 PM
I, too, hate bigotry, but today, when the President compared the fight for healthcare to the stand on civil rights, my stomach sank. I can only imagine what he will say when we oppose amnesty. Please, Mr. President, our country is being torn apart, don’t goad the American people.
mobydutch on March 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM
mobydutch: That will probably be next,and embolden Hopey
if HealthScare goes through!:)
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Obama Speech/
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canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Well, mind your p’s and q’s. Allah is in a banning mood.
TXMomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 9:00 PM
What he said.
TXMomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Hi back to you too. Were you watching C-Span? If so, like mom like daughter or reverse, whatever. I wanted to go to DC today. I will definitely go at a moment’s notice if immigration is the next big fight. Booking for the Sept 11, 2010 march.
momoftxmomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 9:00 PM
And remember HADITHA? Those soldiers weer being prosecuted by the USA under Bush. I think some of them may still be fighting the fight. The soldiers’ words against terrorists. So this didn’t just begin under BO. Did anyone know that President Bush was gettign ready to push amnesty just before 9/11? and then things changed, he could not pushed it right after we were attacked. then, after we fought ot get him elected, he turns around and starts stabbing us in the back, almost as soon as he got elected.
immigrantchick on March 20, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Get bent. And stop your mindless armchair Monday morning quarterbacking. MCLAME gave us ‘Bozo’.
And don’t give me any more of your Bush-bashing crap.
Owlgore and John F’ing Kerry would have destroyed us.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 9:01 PM
I’m begining to think that this will not end untill the statists are once again in the minority.
farright on March 20, 2010 at 9:01 PM
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andy85719 on March 20, 2010 at 9:01 PM
keep ‘em coming C
cmsinaz on March 20, 2010 at 8:32 PM
cmsinaz:)
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Buck up dude, getting a bit tired of hearing the “its over” crap. It ain’t over till its over. Your work aint done till we win, you’re dead or they are. We will fight this till the last man standing.
javamartini on March 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM
WE HAVE LOST – THIS LAND IS NO LONGER OUR LAND.
Our troubles are really just beginning. Our children and grandchildren will have to leave America to find Freedom someplace else.
We will be abandoned and alone…old, tired and a subject of a tyrannical, oppressive regime.
jay12 on March 20, 2010 at 8:43 PM
I don’t like or support this bill, but I think this is a little melodramatic. Honestly, all is not lost. Really. Whatever happens tomorrow.
Terrye on March 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM
I agree, never let your morale sag, it is part of their game of prewsuming inevitability. When it 1st appeared that Obama had the election after the PA tallies were in, my friend Roger Gardner who founded RADARSITE (now run by Maggie Williams) was very down. I used this old poem from the cousdin accross the pond as a spirit lifter, I hope it may cheer yor spirit as well.
There’s a breathless hush in the close to-night
Ten to make and the match to win
A bumping pitch and a blinding light,
An hour to play, and the last man in.
And it’s not for the sake of a ribboned coat.
Or the selfish hope of a season’s fame,
But his captain’s hand on his shoulder smote
“Play up! Play up! And play the game!”
The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling’s jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England’s far and Honor a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
“Play up! Play up! And play the game!”
This is the word that year by year,
While in her place the school is set,
Every one of her sons must hear,
And none that hears it dare forget.
This they all with joyful mind
And bear through life Eke a torch in flame,
falling fling to the host behind-
“Play up! Play up! And play the game!”
Archimedes on March 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM
Rep. Diane Watson D-CA talking on CSPAN about going to Catholic Mass last Sunday on her way to receive COMMUNION
and a friend said Don’t take away my medicare….now she’s talking about a damn donut hole in medicare.
How DARE she receive communion and vote for this cr@p….PRAY PRAY PRAY folks. God is in control.
sicoit on March 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM
Pray for Stupak to stay strong. I think he knows he’s being played… If the ProAbortioners are for an exec order it can’t be good. Me thinks that Stupak has to stand firm on his no.. but as for the rest who knows.
kringeesmom on March 20, 2010 at 9:04 PM
Shut up and go away……….please.
Knucklehead on March 20, 2010 at 9:04 PM
Is that your Yogi Berra impression?
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 9:05 PM
I agree. I think that was what Glenn Beck was getting at the other day about how we need to fix up our Tree of Liberty. When we have true liberty borne out of the right roots, we don’t have to import “democracy” but they will come searching for it. (The overuse and misuse of the word “democracy” is another one of my pet peeves.)
PrincipledPilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Thank you, Knuckledragger!
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Tired.
Key West Reader on March 20, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Where’s the ban hammer when you need it? Or better yet, where are the HA tattletales?
Knucklehead on March 20, 2010 at 9:08 PM
I’m so tired.
Key West Reader on March 20, 2010 at 9:08 PM
Well, mind your p’s and q’s. Allah is in a banning mood.
TXMomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 9:00 PM
All the years you lived with me you know I am always civil. But what is happening in our country is something I can not accept. At dinner I made the statement I would protest every chance I get against these insane policies. Thank goodness our rep is Jeb Hensarling. I track him closely and send a thank you email for his votes. Kay Bailey H and John Cornyn have to be reminded what I expect from them. Never have I been so involved in politics but I will never return to my former nonchalance.
momoftxmomof3 on March 20, 2010 at 9:09 PM
Canopfor, what would we do without YOU?????
mobydutch on March 20, 2010 at 9:09 PM
We have just begun to fight. Let’s get them with good humor, hard work and logic.
Cindy Munford on March 20, 2010 at 9:10 PM
Please. I’d rather him use it on Annin.
Immi chick is just annoying with her mindless conjecturing.
Lanceman on March 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM
We’ve all kinda moved on past “it’s all Bushes’ fault” to something that is a little more pressing just now. This thread is not about Bush.
silvernana on March 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM
Canopfor, what would we do without YOU?????
mobydutch on March 20, 2010 at 9:09 PM
mobydutch:Thankyou my friend!:)
canopfor on March 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM
I believe there are many of us here that feel this way. To think about it is exhausting but hopefully it will be normal for my children. It takes vigilance to keep our liberty.
BTW, I have two RINO Senators in GA that have to continually be reminded too!
PrincipledPilgrim on March 20, 2010 at 9:13 PM
Amen Sister… (Allah, are we allowed to say “Amen”) wouldn’t want to get deemed to be banned.
kringeesmom on March 20, 2010 at 9:14 PM
With all due respect…
… I’m just curious by your screen name where you immigrated from? If it’s not too much to ask.
Seven Percent Solution on March 20, 2010 at 9:14 PM
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