Yo-mentum: Unions bully Boccieri into flipping

posted at 11:36 am on March 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Let’s see. John Boccieri (D-OH) opposed the initial House bill on ObamaCare, supposedly because of his principles. Now he’s flipping to a yes vote, and why?

He is one of four Democrats to switch from no to yes in the past few days as Obama and Democratic leaders try to corral enough votes for the legislation. A vote is expected on Sunday.

Boccieri has been pressured on the issue. Labor unions and other groups backing health care reform ran ads in his district.

So why did he oppose it in the first place? It looks as though Boccieri got a pass from Nancy Pelosi the first time around to protect his election prospects this fall. The 16th CD in Ohio elected him in 2008 as its first Democratic Representative since 1951. In a year when Ohio went to Barack Obama, John McCain won this district, 50/48.

Unfortunately, that puts the Democrats just a vote away from passing the reconciliation bill, according to Fox News. Those numbers are not set in stone; more changes will inevitable occur today and tomorrow, and they may go the other direction. This looks like Pelosi has decided to force those she tried to protect the first time around into exposing themselves to voter wrath, which means that all the cards are now hitting the table. If she can’t pull off the vote on Sunday, this last-minute desperation will cost Democrats dearly for nothing at all.

Will OH-16 voters let Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party’s special interests control this seat in November? I’m betting no. (via TRS)

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The word-on-the-street is the Rep. Dennis Kucinich vote was bought with a job for his wife in the First Lady’s empire, er, office. At least his wife is happy, right?

Redstate.

Wethal on March 19, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Tax revolt.

Everything else is futile in the face of our determined enemy, the left.

What other method could be as fitting, just, and in keeping with the founding principles?

Not to mention incredibly popular.
And stimulating to the economy, rather than disruptive, such as an armed revolt would be.

justltl on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I’ve never seen communist6 dig so deep so fast before. Must be digging into ann’s pharma stash.

daesleeper on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

It’s not personal, it’s a determination by Congress as a whole, through the processes outlined in the Constitution. And obviously the courts can’t weigh in before the legislation is passed. You can’t file suit to invalidate a law that hasn’t been enacted yet.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM

In this case it’s been solely determined by a handful of people in a back room who just all happened to be democrats with assistance from people from groups like the Center for American Progress … a progressive front group.

Yeah, I know the courts can’t weigh in until it becomes law. That’s why I wondered why you said it. I may not be a law student but I know the basics.

darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I still would like to hear crr6′s reasons for her support for this bill, and the way it’s being legislated.

darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:46 PM

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Stick to your illusions about what I do.

venividivici on March 19, 2010 at 1:47 PM

In this case it’s been solely determined by a handful of people in a back room who just all happened to be democrats with assistance from people from groups like the Center for American Progress … a progressive front group.

darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

In other words, it’s Constitutional interpretation by people for whom the Constitution is an impediment to their goals.

venividivici on March 19, 2010 at 1:50 PM

It’s not personal, it’s a determination by Congress as a whole, through the processes outlined in the Constitution. And obviously the courts can’t weigh in before the legislation is passed. You can’t file suit to invalidate a law that hasn’t been enacted yet.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM

They can pass legislation now blocking any kind of provision like the Individual Mandate being applied to their citizens at State Level now or in the future – they can use the U.S. and their State Constitutions to pass these laws.

You have heard of States Rights?

Dr Evil on March 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM

In other words, it’s Constitutional interpretation by people for whom the Constitution is an impediment to their goals.

venividivici on March 19, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Pretty much. By the way, I’ve been so inspired by crr6′s explanations of what the Commerce Clause can be used for that I’m going to use it on my boss for a raise.

darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I say it’s within 1 vote, that will be announced around 5 pm, EST, to avoid the flood of complaints.

AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Pretty much. By the way, I’ve been so inspired by crr6’s explanations of what the Commerce Clause can be used for that I’m going to use it on my boss for a raise.

darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Well, that’s the obvious next step. If you get rebuffed, sue under that ever-so-useful Commerce Clause.

I only wonder why it’s taken 200+ years for anyone to notice that the definition of “commerce” was so far-reaching. I guess we had to wait until a genius like crr6 came along to enlighten us, kinda like how the era before Mohammed’s introduction of Islam to the world is called “The Age of Ignorance”.

venividivici on March 19, 2010 at 2:12 PM

AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Wanna bet this’ll come down to a single-digit margin, wether it wins or loses?

Dark-Star on March 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM

justltl on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

An effective “shot across the bow” would be a coordinated campaign to change ones W4 form, specifically the # of dependants claimed to some agreed upon value. This would show the Fed’s we mean business. As for a team leader, that would be nice, someone with visibility and balls. Here in the metro Boston area there is a “libertarian” radio host who talks tough but is afraid of the tax revolt issue and pretty much argues against as not worth the risk…just another charlatan!

dmann on March 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Sorta OT, but since we’re talking about putting the Commerce Clause in the service of the Left’s moral agenda of increasing insurance coverage (well, that’s what they say, but anyone with eyes in their head can see it’s a power grab), here’s a good article on the rise of the Federal government and the epoch of a particular interpretation of the scope of their power.

http://www.american.com/archive/2009/april-2009/the-coming-of-the-fourth-american-republic

Most relevant passage:

Starting in the 1930s, the theoretical limitations on the authority of governments—national or state—to deal with economic or welfare issues were dissolved, and in the course of fighting for this untrammeled power governments eagerly accepted responsibility for the functioning of the economy and the popular welfare.

Like the primacy of federal over state sovereignty, the shift continued even after the watershed event. Remaining limits on governmental authority were eliminated by the dialectic of the civil rights revolution, in which the federal power over commerce was expanded to meet moral imperatives, and the new standards were then fed back into regulation of commerce.

He says later on:

We are in a crisis of legitimacy. The concept of legitimacy, the right to rule, is the single most important factor in political life. The particulars of how it is gained and lost are infinitely varied, according to the culture and history of the polity. In Monty Python’s “Holy Grail,” Dennis says to King Arthur: “Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.” But indeed the Lady of the Lake can be sufficient, if that is what enough people think, and a proponent of the Divine Right of Kings would regard committing the decision to the votes of the people as ludicrous.

In the United States, legitimacy is conferred by elections, but it is not total. Through the ages, the basic question mark about democracy as a form of government has been that 51 percent of the electorate can band together to oppress the minority—“the tyranny of the majority” is a valid concern. To address it, the United States has a formal written Constitution to guarantee basic rights, but it also has an unwritten constitution that sets limits on how far the winners can push their victories. Exceed the amorphous bounds, and not only does the minority no longer accept the legitimacy of the government, many members of the majority coalition will have a guilty conscience as well, knowing that their acquiescence to the demands of one of their allies was a bad deed. As Thomas Jefferson said, “Great innovations should not be forced on slender majorities.”

I’ll stick with Jefferson against crr6′s “slender majority” which would like to foist the “great innovation” of ObamaCare on me, based on some horsesh!t interpretation of “commerce”.

The end of the article is quite hopeful. Unfortunately, the basis for that hope is that since the “Special Interest State” is unsustainable, it will collapse in a flaming ruin.

venividivici on March 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM

An effective “shot across the bow” would be a coordinated campaign to change ones W4 form, specifically the # of dependants claimed to some agreed upon value.

dmann on March 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM

76 is probably too many, but how about 13?

Mary in LA on March 19, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Boccieri the carpet bagger from Youngstown. The Iraq War Vet who served in Quatar. The liar who voted for Stimulus and then told his district he was the ONLY Congressman who read it. Then he is had Rangel & Murtha campaign and raise $$ for him…IN NEW YORK CITY!!! A real liar… he will be defeated in November

charmingtail on March 19, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Mary in LA on March 19, 2010 at 2:40 PM

lol….be an ill wind blowin’!

dmann on March 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Shocking news…just oh so stunning.

Yeah, right.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM

I find it interesting that when Roe was decided, the argument was that the government had no right to get between a woman and her doctor, to decide healthcare decisions, the SCOTUS affirmed that. Here we are, and those same people are saying that government has every right to get involved in your healthcare decisions.

I’m not a Lawyer, but is it possible to use the lefts favorite Court decision against them, using their argument?

Either way, it shows the classic hypocrisy of the leftist F-Tards

M-14 2go on March 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM

No non-immoral person supports anything proposed by BO, Pelosi, or Reid.

proconstitution on March 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM

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