Reid promises liberals: Yeah, sure, we’ll try to vote on the public option in a few months

posted at 7:20 pm on March 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s a comfort to know that the principle-less suckers in the House willing to make a phony deal with this guy aren’t all part of the Stupak bloc.

In a letter to two of his more progressive colleagues in the Senate — Jeff Merkley of Oregon and Bernie Sanders of Vermont — the Nevada Democrat implicitly apologized for his inability to get a government-run insurance plan into the final piece of health care legislation and promised to keep working to get the policy into law…

“Nevertheless, like you, I remain committed to pursuing the public option. While I believe that the legislation we are considering does much to provide affordable coverage to millions of Americans and curb insurance company abuses, I also believe that the public option would provide additional competition to make insurance even more affordable. As we have discussed, I will work to ensure that we are able to vote on the public option in the coming months.”

That was all that Bernie Sanders needed to hear — or rather, all the thin political cover that Bernie Sanders needed — to drop his bid to add a public option to the reconciliation bill. But here’s a fun footnote from HuffPo:

The search now is for a vehicle outside health care reform to get a public plan into law. The same institutional hurdles that killed the provision in the previous go-rounds — mainly that there aren’t 60 supportive senators to break a filibuster — remain. But aides on the Hill are already looking to future reconciliation vehicles to which they can attach the public plan, which would, in turn, allow for it to pass via an up-or-down vote.

If you think we’re done with reconciliation after O-Care passes, think again. This is business as usual from now on, at least with respect to contentious revisions to health care. As for Reid’s promise to take up the public option “in the coming months,” it’s thoughtful of HuffPo not to mention to the idiots among its readership what transparent nonsense that is. The whole point of ramming the bill through now is to get O-Care off the table before the midterms; Reid won’t dare touch this issue again before then, least of all to take a further step towards socialized medicine by passing a public plan. Next year’s not promising either since he — or, I should say, the new majority leader — will have fewer seats to work with, and no one will want another angry months-long fight over health care. His only option is to try to pass it after the election but before the new Congress is sworn in, in a lame-duck session. I’d like to see him try.

Speaking of meaningless assurances from Reid, Tom Perriello wants a guarantee that the Senate will take up reconciliation before he votes yes this weekend. Pelosi says he’ll have it. Will he? Hmmmm.

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Does the fox and the scorpion story come to mind?

Electrongod on March 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM

San Fran Nan did say once they kick through this first door… there will be more [socialism] to come.

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM

His only option is to try to pass it after the election but before the new Congress is sworn in, in a lame-duck session. I’d like to see him try.

That’s precisely when he’ll pass it.

steveegg on March 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Shockingly SHOCKED!!!

FontanaConservative on March 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Bait – n – switch.

jgapinoy on March 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Another yes vote

RALEIGH (WTVD) — U.S. Representative Bob Ethridge announced Friday he will support the health care reform legislation.

His website says he will vote on The Health Care &Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010.

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Um, how can Empress Pelosi, Speaker of the House, promise the Senate will do anything.

rbj on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

“When our members go to vote, they will have all the assurance they need that this bill will be taken up by the Senate and passed by the Senate,” she said to reporters.

But will it be passed in an amended fashion and come back for a second vote in the House?

Wethal on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

If you think we’re done with reconciliation after O-Care passes, think again. This is business as usual from now on, at least with respect to contentious revisions to health care.

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

The Left Doesn’t like this Bill The Right Doesn’t Like This Bill and The Middle Doesn’t Like this Bill.

Who thinks that the people on the Left are not calling and faxing and emailing their Representatives too.

This Bill Doesn’t Have Public Support, that’s and illusion. Except from the special interest that our Representatives think they are supposed to answer too.

Fire Dog Lake Not exactly Right Wing…Really Doesn’t like this Bill.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/03/19/fact-sheet-the-truth-about-the-health-care-bill/

Dr Evil on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Tyrants ecstatic, Liberty hit hardest.

Holger on March 19, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Couple that with Gibbs saying they’d use demon pass for more bills. This country is going to get angrier by the day now! Of that, I have no doubts.

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:27 PM

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM

He already was marked as a yes vote in Gabriel Malor’s count over at Ace’s.

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:27 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Have a nice nap?

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:28 PM

If they had the votes, they would be holding it right now.

kingsjester on March 19, 2010 at 7:29 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Go play outside. The adults are talking.

portlandon on March 19, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Have a nice nap?

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:28 PM

LOL!!!!!

speed911 on March 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM

But will it be passed in an amended fashion and come back for a second vote in the House?

Wethal on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Reid’s admitted he doesn’t have 51 votes, and I seriously don’t see him pulling more stunts like the Louisiana purchase. I don’t think enough Dems in the Senate are willing to risk it, this far into the year.

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Arkansas’ delegation

U.S. Rep. Mike Ross, D-Prescott, Arkansas’ only U.S. House member running for re-election, said today he planned to vote against the Senate health care bill this weekend.

Ross voted against the House version of the legislation last year.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Rep. Vic Snyder, D-Little Rock, who is not seeking re-election, said Snyder planned to vote for the bill. U.S. Rep. John Boozman, R-Rogers, who is running for the U.S. Senate, opposes the legislation.

A message left at the office of U.S. Rep. Marion Berry, D-Gillett, who is not seeking re-election, was not immediately returned today.

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Yeah, as if the Domestic Terrorist Party will stop at HC; when your policy is scorched earth, then you scorch the earth. Anything less at this point wouldn’t make sense since they are already doing their best to create their coup.

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Racial preferences in Health “Care” bill.

PrincipledPilgrim on March 19, 2010 at 7:31 PM

ONe good thing, when the GOP regains power and if it is lead by fiscal conservatives, it will be really easy to get spending cuts through since the Dems have greased this path (and spending cuts are actually budgetary & will reduce the deficit).

WashJeff on March 19, 2010 at 7:32 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Awww.

What has the GOP filibustered?

uknowmorethanme on March 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM

…And Racial preferences in the Student Loan part of the H/C bill.

PrincipledPilgrim on March 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Saw a draft of a 28th amendment today that forces our congress critters to abide by all laws they pass for us. In addition, it should say that Senators and Congress MUST read, and swear to understand, ALL bills they vote on.

lilredhen on March 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM

These bastards have no character, no integrity, no courage and no shame.

rplat on March 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Not to mention the filibuster is an actual rule. The Dems are just making it up as they go.

uknowmorethanme on March 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM

WashJeff on March 19, 2010 at 7:32 PM

At this point, Conservatives being in charge will only slow down the rate of destruction.

The only option in my mind is a new Constitution that attempts to completely prevent the sort of Social Engineering and Redistributive government Liberals are now pursuing.

Holger on March 19, 2010 at 7:36 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Which legislation have we filibustered during Obama’s term? Specifically speaking, which legislation?

Take a hike. Democrats threw a freaking tantrum when Republicans even hinted at removing the filibuster. Now Democrats are in power and even hinting at obstructionism is wrong? Piss off.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:36 PM

…we’ll try to vote on the public option in a couple of months.”

Guess we can add that to the two other most common lies:
1) your check is in the mail
2) I promise I won’t cum in your mouth

But hey, since when has there ever been honor among thieves?

GarandFan on March 19, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Reid won’t dare touch this issue again before then

I disagree. They will push for everything they can get. If the peasants revolt, they will deal with that too.

Skandia Recluse on March 19, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Reid won’t dare touch this issue again before then

Reid isn’t going to get re-elected. He will help Obama cram as much as they can down our throats before January as they can.

uknowmorethanme on March 19, 2010 at 7:39 PM

They are all scum.

WisCon on March 19, 2010 at 7:39 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys.

crr6 on March 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Nothing else has been filibustered, you braying jackass.

Chuck Schick on March 19, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Breaking: Stupak says there is no agreement.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM

What’s a few more lies, in fact share some of Obama’s lies.

tarpon on March 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM

PrincipledPilgrim on March 19, 2010 at 7:31 PM

And again, we pay for it, but can’t benefit. I have a son who will be ready to attend in 2011. Betcha money he won’t stand a shot, if this bill goes thru. Yet my tax dollars can fund someone else going to college? Figures! Not only is Obama partisan, he’s a racist.

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Breaking: Stupak says there is no agreement.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Link?

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM

PrincipledPilgrim on March 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM

I noticed that when I read this section of the bill.

truetexan on March 19, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Liberal rage at the filibuster isn’t new, says congressional historian Julian Zelizer. “From about the ’40s to the ’70s filibuster reform was a key issue to liberals,” he says. “The filibuster was a symbol of Civil Rights opposition.”

That’s from Huffpo, famous bastion of conservatism.

crr6, you need to try harder.

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Link?

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Sorry. Bad form on my part. Here. It’s from CNN.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM

There is a spiritual battle afoot here. The father of lies loves the abortion inclusion – his minion Moloch is a spirit and still alive after all – so I guess that keeps him satisfied temporarily. Can you imagine what fun he is having with Mrs. Pelosi’s attempt to link St. Joseph, the protector of the Holy family to this debacle? What comes next as this rolls out more fully? We can expect euthanasia, infanticide ( admitted, not denied and hidden like partial birth abortion) and who knows what else?

Mason on March 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM

At this point, Conservatives being in charge will only slow down the rate of destruction.

Holger on March 19, 2010 at 7:36 PM

I think the youn crop of GOP pols we have will break this trend if the country gives them power (e.g., Ryan, Cantor, etc.). We have some good kids coming, even here in IL. Just need to make it over the bridge.

WashJeff on March 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Another yes vote

Rep. Harry Mitchell has told 12 News he will vote ‘yes’ on the health care bill in the upcoming vote in the U.S. House. Passage of the bill would send the historic bill to President Obama to sign into law.

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Breaking: Stupak says there is no agreement.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM

dude !

runner on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Two pro-choice Democrats now causing problems for Democrats:

Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO)

Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill)

First here, second here.

They’re apparently pissed.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Does the fox and the scorpion story come to mind?

Electrongod on March 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM

I thought it was the frog and scorpion.

Over30 on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

OK, I’ve thought about the options for several years now and have come to the conclusion that the only way to save our country is via a tax rebellion.

Every other means is doomed to failure.
Vote the bastards out? Sure, sure, that’s always important.
Revolution? Please. While it would be viscerally satisfying to see these vermin hunted down and dispatched, realistically that is not going to happen.
Secession? That would be nice, but not likely.

Taxes are our labor and accomplishments. They are not simply money, which has been vilified relentlessly by the left. They are our labors, our achievements and our accomplishments. They are not a product of our government and do not belong to the government. They belong to the people. They are now being used against us, not for us. They are the life blood of the very parasite and bloated pig of a tyrannical government that from this day forward will harm us all.

Cut off the beast’s blood supply.
Non-violent.
Principled.
In keeping with the spirit of our Founding Fathers.

I am utterly convinced that this is the only way to proceed.

justltl on March 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Rift Emerges Over Medicare as Health Care Vote Nears
By ROBERT PEAR and DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
Published: March 19, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/20/us/politics/20health.html

WASHINGTON – A dispute over Medicare payments rates created a new complication on Friday for House Democratic leaders in their drive for major health care legislation, as crucial votes remained in play in both directions with barely 48 hours to go before an expected climactic vote.

The flare-up over Medicare, a dispute that has percolated throughout the yearlong health care debate, was just one in a series of fast-moving developments as the Democrats press toward a decisive vote on the House floor on Sunday. It came as rank-and-file lawmakers pored over the detailed legislative language released on Thursday, and a handful of representatives said their states were being short-changed by new provisions.

Dr Evil on March 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM

I thought it was the frog and scorpion.Over30 on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Yeah, I think your right. Same ending though ;)

Electrongod on March 19, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Scott Holleran
re: ObamaCare: the administration, Congress and most of the press are all about pretending there’s an inevitability about it now. There isn’t.

Interesting how all his friend in his face book friends section all appear to have the same avatar….kill the bill.

Dr Evil on March 19, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Harry Mitchell

not sure he was one of the original 30/32 no votes

runner on March 19, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Coffee or beer…coffee or beer…coffee AND beer…gawd a’mighty what’s a guy to do?

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM

It came as rank-and-file lawmakers pored over the detailed legislative language released on Thursday, and a handful of representatives said their states were being short-changed by new provisions.

the devil..is in the details

runner on March 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:45 PM

I’m happy over the dispute, but it galls me that these 2 are not happy over the way the abortion issue is written. Obviously more baby killing is what they salivate for. Sick jerks!

capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM

It’s only business as usual to the extent that filibustering is business as usual for you guys

No, filibustering is business as usual for the creeps of the Democratic party, who in 2003 even filibustered a nomination of a judge to the Federal bench–namely, Miguel Estrada. Just like someone else we’ve all heard of, Estrada was born in 1961, attended Columbia, and Harvard Law School.

Emperor Norton on March 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Sorry. Bad form on my part. Here. It’s from CNN.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Doesn’t look like there is an agreement yet, but another twitter account is saying that Pelosi is pushing hard for an agreement with Stupak’s group now… which means they’re short votes.

Read Molly Hooper’s twitter.

Stupak just told me the convo with Pelosi was about an abortion-related “proposal that’s out there,” that he wants to “see it in writing” before he signs off on it

Stupak told me Dem leaders “don’t have the votes, or they wouldn’t be talking to me.” He holds a presser on Sat at 11am and “hopes” he’ll have an agreement to announce. Leaving the Capitol, he told me “there’s a proposal out there but nothing yet and we want to see it in writing and massage it,” which is what he told the Speaker during the 10 min pow wow

Rep. Becerra confirms that there are “animated discussions” going on over the abortion language with both sides.

Enoxo on March 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM

By any means necessary.

Just imagine what they’re going to be like when they’re lame ducks after November.

John Deaux on March 19, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM

I may just head straight for a xanex!

truetexan on March 19, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Coffee or beer…coffee or beer…coffee AND beer…gawd a’mighty what’s a guy to do?

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM

coffee and baily’s. Been a long dang day and this weekend is going to be FUBAR!

upinak on March 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM

If you think we’re done with reconciliation after O-Care passes, think again. This is business as usual from now on, at least with respect to contentious revisions to health care.

Expect it on future changes to the health care debacle, cap and trade, card check and every other form of socialist legislation they can get through before November. Bet on it. They have made their bed now and have nothing more to lose.

conservnut on March 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM

The Stupak thing really steams me. He knows full well Nancy will not uphold his amendment. He will vote on her promise to keep it and then it will be removed. He will then say I didn’t vote for the bill the way it turned out. We will know Bart, we will know.

sandee on March 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Um, this is BS. Didn’t anybody notice – they VOTED on a public option already and they lost. That was when they had Teddy Kennedy around and 60 Dems in the Senate. Give it up already. Nobody is getting anything else on health care that needs 60 votes. Period. (At least until we’re able to muster 60 honest, conservative, Senators at some point in the – distant – future.)

jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM

After years of pondering, I have come to the conclusion that there is only one solution to the situation in which we currently find ourselves.

Tax rebellion.

Everything else is but a joke.

justltl on March 19, 2010 at 7:59 PM

jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM

How many times have they voted on a public option again? 2? 3? See a problem here?

upinak on March 19, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Coffee or beer…coffee or beer…coffee AND beer…gawd a’mighty what’s a guy to do?

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Came home and went straight to the Jack. Gonna be there all weekend I think.

conservnut on March 19, 2010 at 8:00 PM

sandee – I don’t think Stupak will do that. He didn’t come this far, and put up with this much, only to roll over for a meaningless promise at the end. I could be wrong, and we’ll see what happens, but I don’t think so.

jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 8:00 PM

jdp629, I pray you are right.

sandee on March 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM

jdp629, I pray you are right.

sandee on March 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Me too!

truetexan on March 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM

coffee and baily’s. Been a long dang day and this weekend is going to be FUBAR!
upinak on March 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Yah it went FUBAR this morning when the ‘rats started flipping to yes.

If anecdotal evidence means anything, two of my local gunshops were jammed to the rafters with customers; I’ve never seen them so busy. There’s a strange vibe out there, maybe it has something to do with states like Illinois recently deciding to ban “assault” rifles.

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Should CommieCare pass on Sunday, the “public option” will be come about all by itself.

After all, a government takeover of health care is all this has been about, anyway, and the commies are damn close to getting it.

Dave R. on March 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM

That picture so resembles Pinocchio.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2010 at 8:04 PM

If the report is correct, then Stupak is right – if they need him, then they don’t have the votes. To get him will take something more than a mess of porridge, IMhO.

jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Coffee or beer…coffee or beer…coffee AND beer…gawd a’mighty what’s a guy to do?

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 7:50 PM

I suggest whiskey…

Or gin. Gin works.

Bombay Sapphire, dry, three olives, if you please.

turfmann on March 19, 2010 at 8:05 PM

I guess it’s going to be up to us to take our country back.

Of course that will mean you guys will have to separate yourselves from the computer for an extended period of time.

First off: The Patriot’s Work Out. I’m think something like PX90. Then we take it to the streets.

Dorvillian on March 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM

There’s a strange vibe out there

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Like dark clouds above you and the wind is calm?

Holger on March 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM

This was recent? I didn’t think IL could own those to begin with. Hmmmm

turfmann on March 19, 2010 at 8:05 PM

You better enjoy that. Soon, the only thing we will be able to drink is home brew.

upinak on March 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Like dark clouds above you and the wind is calm?
Holger on March 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Yep, like a wall cloud forming on the horizon. Honestly it was a little weird at the stores, sort of hushed, everyone seemed so “businesslike” if that makes sense.

Eh, maybe I’m just reading too much into it after a long day of bad news.

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Of course that will mean you guys will have to separate yourselves from the computer for an extended period of time.

Dorvillian on March 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Won’t be too hard, especially if we’re all banned from HA!
;-)

Mary in LA on March 19, 2010 at 8:11 PM

U.S. Rep. Dale E. Kildee’s decision to support the U.S. Senate health care reform despite abortion critics concerns has spurred dozens of bloggers to respond. Kildee, D-Flint, said the legislation would keep intact the Hyde Amendment, which bars the use of federal dollars for abortions except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. The veteran congressman who once studied for the priesthood cited his Catholic faith in reaching his decision and said he remains pro-life.

President Obama won’t get Rep. Harry Teague’s vote on health care legislation this weekend. The Hobbs Democrat just announced he would vote against the bill

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin doesn’t expect any fallout in her standing with House Democratic leaders on her opposition to the pending health care bill because she says she has made her position clear for months.

William Amos on March 19, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Eh, maybe I’m just reading too much into it after a long day of bad news.

Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Maybe.

I wonder what the mood was in the Colonies in the weeks and days before we met the Redcoats at Concord Bridge. Were people’s hair on end? Did they nod curtly instead of smile broadly?

Holger on March 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Stupak’s vote won’t come cheap — he’s willing to demand Nancy Pelosi sign a piece of paper meaning absolutely nothing at all.

BREAKING: Stupak tells me – “There was no agreement and there’s no agreement until we see it in writing”
Now, maybe he mans legislation to be passed before the ObamaCare bill.

I don’t think their schedule permits that.

Concurrent Resolution? Huh?

Cong DeGette just spoke to reporters following a meeting w the Speaker and pro choice women.
There is a plan to do a concurrent resolution to take the Senate bill, strike the Nelson language on abortion, and insert the Stupak language on abortion.
This does not make pro-choice women happy at all.

DeGette says pro choice women (40 of them) will not support this move, “We are holding firm this time.”

If it happens that would mean that the amended bill would have to go through the Senate again.

This seems preposterous. If they do this, they have to vote through normal Senate rules, and then they’ll lose all the abortion nuts.

Short Votes? enoxo points out that if Nancy Pelosi is willing to deal on abortion — Nancy Pelosi! — then she must be short votes.

AOSHQ.

Wethal on March 19, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Sorry. Bad form on my part. Here. It’s from CNN.

amerpundit on March 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM

A Twitter tweet? How much faith can anyone put in that?

Stupak is our only hope. He’s got to tell his troops NOT to vote for the Senate bill unless it is changed IN THE HOUSE, in which case the Senate has to revote with Scott Brown.

If Reid is trying to put the PUBLIC OPTION back in the Senate bill, how can Stupak and his group trust him to put anti-abortion language in the reconciliation bill?

Answer: They can’t. If Stupak and his group vote Yes based on a promise from Reid, Obama signs the Senate bill into law and everybody goes home, then Reid comes back and says, “April Fool, now let’s do Cap and Trade!”

Steve Z on March 19, 2010 at 8:31 PM

I should’ve called into work–I really want to start drinking–my stomach is tied into knots that only whiskey can untie…*sigh–have to go to work in 3 hrs–at my healthcare facility (hospital)

lovingmyUSA on March 19, 2010 at 8:35 PM

… But aides on the Hill are already looking to future reconciliation vehicles ….

Looks like the senate is going to be an up or down vote for decades to come.

This is going to mean a very wild swing in Federal policies at the drop of every hat!

And no, the Republicans should NOT avoid using it the minute they are back in control.

Freddy on March 19, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Bart Stupak is a Democrat, so take everything I’m about to say with a pound of salt–

Just yesterday, he said his colleagues made his life a ‘living h&ll’ and his wife was afraid. He has principled AND personal reasons not to play nice with his Dem cohorts.

People defect from abusive families. No political family is more abusive than the Democrats. I have hope that Stupak is disgusted and disheartened, and won’t fold.

It’s tenuous hope, but hope all the same. I’m holding tight to it.

Grace_is_sufficient on March 19, 2010 at 8:37 PM

1st of all, Tom Perriello is a certifiable YES. he’s checked with some people he claims are Catholic doctrine types who say the Senate bill protects the life of the unborn (er, they obviously didn’t read it).

anyway, Tom Perriello is smart enough to know that any “assurance” he gets from the Senate aint’ worth spit.

like he would even believe our own 2 Senators? Mark Warner & JIm Webb? ha ha ha! they signed onto the Senate bill & didn’t even have the chutzpah to get their own Louisiana Purchase money for us in Virginia.

kelley in virginia on March 19, 2010 at 8:38 PM

‘Squeamish’ Dem Senators [NRO Staff]

From Roll Call:

Senate Democratic leaders have decided they will not publicly release a health care reform letter signed by their rank and file intended to calm nervous House Democrats before their historic vote this weekend on the comprehensive Senate-passed measure and a budget reconciliation bill of fixes.

Sources said a handful of Democratic Senators asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to keep the letter private. The missive laid out a set of principles that Senatorial signatories would pledge to support in the health care reconciliation bill, which will need to be passed by the Senate after House action.

“The purpose is to give assurances to the House, and that can be done privately,” said one senior Senate Democratic aide.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley declined to comment except to say that Democratic leaders are “confident that the House understands the Senate is prepared to deliver.”

One senior House Democratic source said the letter had not yet been delivered to the chamber.

And one Senate Democratic source indicated that Reid had not yet been able to round up the 51 signatures he needed to provide the assurance that the Senate would be able to pass the reconciliation measure. However, the source cautioned that the inability to get 51 votes was not because Reid didn’t have personal commitments from 51 or more Senators, but because many Democratic Senators are squeamish about sticking their necks out before the House has passed the bill.

NRO. Odds of that letter not being leaked by someone…

Wethal on March 19, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Defect Stupak!!!!You are among liars!!!

yoda on March 19, 2010 at 9:17 PM

h Dms are doing that pocket vote switcheroo thing again

My critter Harry Mitchell, an original Yes, seemed to respond to our calls and faxes by voting No on the Slaughter Rule

but he is yes 0on the bill

Jason Altmire voted Yes on the slaughter rule and is a No on the bill

its that try to cover their axxes with at least one no vote crxp again

they need to get the boot

Is it November yet?

PS Pass the Baileys this-a-way…

ginaswo on March 19, 2010 at 9:38 PM

They don’t have the votes…

Seven Percent Solution on March 19, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Maybe the founders of Planned Parenthood were right . I am starting to favor these Obama loving rats aborting their spawn .

borntoraisehogs on March 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM

“Nevertheless, like you, I remain committed to pursuing the public option. While I believe that the legislation we are considering does much to provide affordable coverage to millions of Americans and curb insurance company abuses

I think we need to be looking at the abuses to the constitution by those meant to defend it.

jack herman on March 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM

I think we need to be looking at the abuses to the constitution by those meant to defend it.

jack herman on March 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM

If these clowns continue on with this stuff it could very likely happen. I believe they are playing with fire, it’s astounding that they believe it can’t happen.

whbates on March 19, 2010 at 11:22 PM

I’m having a change of heart on all this socialism stuff. I’ve been working hard and saving like mad to fund my early retirement. I’m about 5 years away from being financially independent. If I can get free health care by living frugally and keeping my income low enough when drawing on my tax-free savings I can retire much earlier and live off the public dole. Here’s a big thank you to all of you working suckers who are going to be helping to finance my life of leisure!

MJBrutus on March 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM