I know, I know…but he appears to have detailed info – at least the most detailed I’ve seen. IT AIN’T OVER YET!!!!

Fox has been saying Pelosi and Clyburn had the votes since early this morning. Fox has been an outlier all day. As Dick Morris said on Hannity’s show tonight, the Dems want to create a false narrative that passage is inevitable so they put out false info and Fox went for it.

When we see the MSNBC talking heads leaping for joy and high fiving, then we’ll know Pelosi has the votes. MSNBC will get that first tweet.

If I were her – I’d be asking everyone, leaning on everyone. I would want this bill to pass with MORE than a simple one vote majority

Yes, but she doesn’t have much time left. She has to go for the ones who she thinks she can make the most headway with between now and Sunday.

…..and all of this is considered by the democrats to be good governance?

Skandia Recluse on March 19, 2010 at 9:43 PM

I don’t know if all of them actually believe this, but they’re going to blindly follow out of some sense of devotion to the party. I would guess it’s that dependent mentality. If they know this is where there bread is being buttered, they’ll continue to follow…and rationalize it.

Okay let me say this up front… in addition to not being a lawyer, I’m not a parliamentarian and have never worked on the Hill. That said… It looks like Nancy needs Stupak and his gang and they aren’t going……

I’ve posted this before, but I’m so stressed over this healthcare nightmare, I needed to laugh and thought it was worth a repeat…

The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on stage in front of a huge crowd.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and says, “Do you know that with one wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but it will go deep into their hearts. And for the rest of their lives, whenever they speak of this day they will rejoice!”

Pelosi replied, “I seriously doubt that with one little wave of your hand you can do that. Show me.”

So the Pope slapped her.

behiker on March 19, 2010 at 9:35 PM

ROFL!!!

The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on stage in front of a huge crowd.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and says, “Do you know that with one wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but it will go deep into their hearts. And for the rest of their lives, whenever they speak of this day they will rejoice!”

Pelosi replied, “I seriously doubt that with one little wave of your hand you can do that. Show me.”

So the Pope slapped her.

WE SHALL NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS !!

Stay strong !!

Why do you think Comrade Pelosi and Chairman Obama are lying, breaking the Oath of Office to “Protect and Defend” the Constitution… Because it gives them ULTIMATE POWER over your very LIFE! They can tell YOU how much you as a person are “worth” in health care spending, they can tell you that YOUR lifestyle choices COST TOO MUCH and must be “changed” for the “good of all” and to “control costs”…

They will CONTROL all YOUR once personal and private decisions reguarding they type and amount of HEALTH CARE, life and death decisions that YOU used to make for yourself and your family! You, the PEOPLE, the CITIZEN, will no longer be ALLOWED to make ANY decisions on what you buy, who your Doctor is, how much it costs… You are NOW a servant to Obama and the radical left! Womb to Tomb!

You MUST, or pay and fine and go to JAIL, buy a Obama approved health care policy! YOU MUST or the 16,500 NEW I.R.S. folks that this bill also hires WILL TRACK YOU DOWN AND FINE YOU AND PUT YOU IN JAIL for NON-COMPLIANCE to Obama… Can anyone here say Castro, Cuba, Russia??? And lest we forget the IRS just purchased thousands of new SHOTGUNS… Hummmmmmmmmmm

Please someone show me, please you libs here in HotAir, (and you and I know who you are), show me in The Constitution where it says that the Federal Govmt. can FORCE and MANDATE that a private citizen MUST purchase ANY PRODUCT or SERVICE or face FINE AND JAIL! Where is it???

You can’t show it because IT IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION, actualy just the OPPOSITE is in the Constitution…

Most of you far left radicals do NOT care what is in the Constitution because it is written to PREVENT the massive intruision of the FEDS and Obama into our daily lives… You want a NANNY STATE, WOMB TO TOMB care… Here it comes!

Let me ask 3 questions and see if we can get ANYONE with the courage of their convictions to reply…

Most radical libs are cowards and will not stand on ANY principals, but let’s see…

1) Would you buy a car that you have NOT SEEN… Have no idea what options it has, it’s size, color, make or model… Pay for it for 4 years BEFORE you can drive it??? Would you buy any product or sevice that makes you pay the total bill UP FRONT for years before you can use it?

**** No one, not even Obama knows what is in the current fraud of a bill, you will start paying new “fees” and TAXES, no matter what your income lvl is right away, but the “benifits do not even start for 6 to 8 YEARS!!!

So would you buy that car ???

next

2) Are you OK and agree to let Obama and the far left in Congress RATION CARE and CUT Medicare and DICTATE YOUR CHOICES in reguards to YOUR health care and lifestyle???

*** There are “Panels” (have been called “Death Panels”) of so called health care experts, and YES IT SAYS THIS EXACTLY IN THE BILL, that will DECIDE how much you as a person are WORTH SPENDING ON… They, this unelected board, WILL tell Doctors what treatments and medicines YOU can get based on AGE, HEALTH, LIFE EXPECTANCY, NORMS and “other factors”…. FACT: ALL COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE ARE BROKE, ALL HAVE RATIONING, ALL HAVE POORER CARE than America! FACT !!! And now those same things are comming to YOU and our once great Country!

Already, in many States and Cities we see the TIP OF THE ICEBERG as to what this can and WILL mean… Cities charging TAXES and FEES on salt intake, calories intake… Telling folks what they CAN and CAN NOT EAT… Or rights ARE under assualt… THEY WANT TO CONTROL EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES… In califorian for example, they are now MANDATING what COLORS of cars can be sold… NO MORE BLACK CARS, they are bad for Global Warming… In NJ and NY they are TAXING sodas and telling PRIVATE resturants that they can no longer serve SALT in the foods… Have you ever tasted many foods WITHOUT salt??? They SUCK !!! So are you ready for this type of control???

But WAIT, theres more…

3) Why Dems, are you willing and ready to have HUGE WAITS to see ANY Doctor, go on WAITING LISTS for proceedusres, have YOUR choices removed and be at the MERCY of a nameless, faceless Govmt agency?

People that live and countless news stories from around the World will tell ANYONE who asks about socilized, Govmt run health care… THEY HAVE IT IN GERMANY and FRANCE and BRITON and CANADA… It is HORRIBLE…. LONG waits, HUGE TAX BURDENS, POOR CARE QUALITY… Lack of new drugs, lack of new inovation… POOR OVERAL CARE! This is NOT about affordable health care, it’s about a HUGE NEW GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER, GOVERNMENT CONTROL of YOUR LIFE!!!

*** Why, oh why, do we want what have been PROVEN to be a DISASTER in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that has gone this route to happen to THE BEST health care in the world??? In Canada and France and England and from ALL OVER rich and affulent people FLOCK to AMERICA for threatments, why ?, because we have THE BEST Doctors, Hospitals, Medicines… THIS IS ALL ABOUT TO CHANGE and NOT for the better… RATIONING has and IS accuring right now in Germany, France, Spain, Canada, Cuba all over the world… WE CAN NOT AFFORD THIS MASSIVE GOVMT TAKE OVER OF 1/6 or 20% of our economy…

OH, 1 more question Leftists…

4) What gives you the “right” to tell me what I can and can not do, what I must and must not purchase, what I MUST spend my money on… Oh, and PLEASE, PLEASE use the lie that this Communist regiem is using about “that people must now buy care insurance. it’s the same thing”. NOPE, a lie… IF I do NOT own or dive a car, I ride a bike or take mass transit, I DO NOT HAVE TO BUY ANY INSURANCE!!! This bill says I MUST, at the point of a gun, jail and fines, I MUST comply with Obama and purchase a ” Obama approved” plan… I have NO rights, NO choice…

IS THIS AMERICA ??? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT ??? ARE YOU READY TO ‘CONFORM’ or be PUNISHED???

What’s next America????

God save us all from our horribly dangerous “leaders”…

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the left HATE America as it is and as it has been… THEY HATE AMERICA’S CONSTITUTION, they are now showing it for all to see by VIOLATING it… They are, and you that support this massive freedom buster of a bill, TRAITORS to our founding, TRAITORS to persona liberty and TRAITIORS to freedom of choice…

I doubt that ANY of you have the stones to reply, but who knows, maybe you have the convictions of your Marxist leaders to stand up and say, YES, I WANT TO BE A SLAVE TO BIG GOVERNMENT… YES, I WANT THEM TO DECIDE FOR ME WHAT IS BEST… YES, I LOVE WAITING IN LINES FOR LIFE SAVING SURGERIES AND DOCTOR VISITS and YES, I LOVE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO BY MY SAVIOR OBAMA!

We’ll see… AT LEAST I HAVE THE PRIDE AND STONES TO POST MY FEELINGS, FACTS AND OPINIONS FOR ALL TO SEE… I AM NOT A SLAVE, NOR AFRAID…

I WILL NOT PAY MY TAXES THIS YEAR ( go snitch to the secret police, like Russian neighbors did to each other ), I WILL NOT BUY MANDATED INSURANCE… MY MONEY WILL NOT GO TO FUND ABORTIONS !!!

LET THEM TRY TO PUT ME IN JAIL… THEY KNOW WHERE I AM !!!!

MILLIONS of real AMERICANS just like me, will refuse to BREAK THE CONSTITUTION, we will NOT become slaves without a fight, a fight like has only been seen ONCE before in America, how will Obama put MILLIONS IN JAIL to enforce his will on the masses…

60% WANT HIS BILL KILLED in ALL the latest polls, they want some reforms, BUT NOT THIS BILL!!!

KILL THE BILL !!!!!!!!!!

Our so called “Leaders” our so called “Representatives” have been BOUGHT, BRIBED and PAID OFF…

THEY ARE TRAITORS to DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

WE THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IGNORE, OUR WISHES ARE IGNORED all in the name of the LARGEST POWER GRAB IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!!!!!

I say, my friends, it’s time to FIGHT !!!!!!!!

We are about to let the VERY SAME folks that have RUINED SOCIAL SECURITY, BANKRUPTED MEDICARE AND MEDICADE, BROKEN AND MISMANAGED THE POST OFFICE, TRASHED AMTRAC and ANY NUMBER OF OTHER BROKEN AGENCIES run HEALTH CARE !!!!

WTF ARE WE DOING AMERICA ????

CIVIL DISOBEDIANCE IS IN ORDER… The left radicals have used it to GREAT success for years… IT’S OUR TIME NOW!

These protests are also being ignored, but they would not ignore thousands in the streets with guns, marching to retake America and uphold The Constitution…

Our founders knew this day would come, spoke abut the need someday for a revolt against the Government…

We have tried to be peacful and be civil, be respectful and be patient… WE HAVE BEEN IGNORED…

How much longer do we wait… As another her on HotAir has said, now may be the time to force Obama to call out the National Guard to quell the angry masses… They could not hide that in the MSM or in the world…

and then double-cross him by sending it immediately to Obama’s desk

This is exactly what I would expect. She’s so hated now, what could she do to make it any worse?

behiker on March 19, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Oh, don’t ask. Please don’t ask. After all of this, I really don’t want to know how much worse she could make it.

Somehow,Brat4life, I don’t think the American people will buy that argument.

sandee on March 19, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Why does the name “John Kerry” echo in my mind?

Sorry, I deem this kabuki.

What’s a ‘401 K’? /

Lanceman on March 19, 2010 at 9:19 PM

You make a compeling argument.

budfox on March 19, 2010 at 9:12 PM

One small hitch in your “git-a-long”—-the bill in the house could be passed and signed into law, leaving all those “faithful Dems” hanging out to dry. What’s one more lie in their world?

If this passes the House just watch what the stock market does on Monday… Bye Bye 401k! :(

Dire Straits on March 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM

What’s a ’401 K’? /

You’re kidding, right?

Pelayo on March 19, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Don’t underestimate the lack of principles that the middlemen have…